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second now I should tweet that would be useful oh yeah tweet it bro keep forgetting which Mouse is which hello everyone who is watching us live whether you're watching us live or whether you're watching us in the future hello and welcome to awesome hardware this is a technology live show which we broadcast simultaneously to twitch and YouTube and usually we do the show on Tuesday evenings at 5:30 p.m. Pacific however today we're doing the show on Wednesday and we started it like noon or like 12:30 why why did we do that Kyle because we're going to copy text Paul well first off you're going to kind of be Texan like couple hours and then you're going to fly the Taiwan in a couple hours and then while I sound really drunk right now um I got that wagon in the lazy mode okay so you're flying you're getting on a plane to Taiwan in a couple hours yep and I just got back from Hawaii from a family vacation last night that's true so this really made the most sense for both of us so we're endeavoring to not let you guys go too long without a live show we didn't want to go like a month in between so that's why we did sort of a weird off episode here on Wednesday but it's cool we're still drinking some beer it's still even though it's midday and we're you've been having a good time I just finished Kyle's half so if you didn't catch that you can check that out via the link in the description we talked about stuff cuz if it was good good we did some some what we do and I forget didn't hit my PC depend my PC we did defender time not fund talk about some tech news yeah um really quick at the beginning of the show oh you know I forgot hold on I want to talk about your giveaway if you don't add up of course yeah cuz I forgot to bring that up if you guys aren't aware Kyle is giving away a computer a strategically it's a very strategic giveaway yes coincides right with the scapular just kept yours I was not at all a coincidence McConnell is giving away like a $2,000 system no so I checked that out over and over in his channel it's crazy um the link is not in my description right now I'll see if I can put it in the but if not it's in his description $2,000 system enter to win is it international yes it's international it's gonna be awesome so do that yes in the meantime if you guys would like to help support our us us the things we do even further by stuff on our stores Cal stores bibliothèque slash store sure it's mugs pint glasses these all very high quality gear and also you can order stuff from my store if you order during the show we'll give you guys a big old shout out towards the end yeah and my store is at Paul's hardware nets also shirts I've got some lady shirts to get some decals got some beanies polo shirts as well as of course the lovely glasses we're drinking out of Imperial pint glasses they're super great alright that's how we begin the show oh wait no that's kind of how you begin the show we're drinking more beer too I've moved on to a 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a.m. and I walked through in this bar there's like four people yeah bar yep I am no judgment whatsoever but hey no one bats an eye it's normal yep alright we're gonna get right back into some tech news because there's certainly plenty of it going around yes thanks not in a little part due to the fact Computex this coming week so lots of tech launches happen at Computex all right sell also sell thanks for moderating today and he's pointing out the nitrogen obtained so that's my excuse Kalos excuse was that he was on vacation last week it was that's an excuse right yeah okay Marlys I was forced forced to go to Hawaii enjoy the tropics about a week ago actually on Tuesday last week and we didn't do the show last week so we haven't talked about it much AMD announced Rison thread Ripper read Ripper they actually announced thread Ripper as well as epic these are going to be what appears to be an enthusiast class ship on a new socket designed to compete with Intel's highest high-end desktop offerings x99 are potentially the upcoming X 299 that's rumored and epic appears to be a a up to 64 core 128 thread CPU like with it's just crazy it's crazy the amount of cores and stuff they got going on and that's going to compete with Intel's high and Xeon stuff right but as the intimate Abul garden points out here the executive editor at PC world there really is a very minimal amount of information that we actually know for sure what we actually know for sure about thread Ripper is that there is a thread Ripper CPU it has 16 cores and 32 threads and it releases in the summer of 2017 that's all that AMD is confirmed so beyond that anything else you hear the rumor is rumor or speculation so just want to point that out we should right out of the gate as we talk about this stuff you know so um but of course there is rumor and speculation so we're still going to mention some of that stuff but first off our nine we have rise in three rise in five and risin 9 I'm sorry rise in three rise in five and rise in seven confirmed by AMD there's discussion that there going to be a rise in 9 in this high-end desktop platform that they're talking about AMD did not mention the number 9 at all it was not said so it could still be classified as a right 9 we're not sure that AMD hasn't said that all they've called it is Andy risin thread river which is a kind of a funny sounding name actually makes me think of like like a fart Ripper yeah like bending over your pants that are too tight and then your threads just written that's the thread Ripper but maybe that's the meadows the intent that's what they want it's got too much power to in it so it's bursting at the seams slows through your pants I don't know just second Julius really Mudbugs fart you've been hanging on to for two months needing nothing but Mexican food after a fiesta I don't know as obviously what they're aiming for with this so no nine is mentioned now other rumors have included an increased memory bandwidth capability by me by way of a quad channel controller which could be very interesting considering how much effects memory speed has had on existing rise in performance for the desktop processors that are already out that could be very interesting to thing to to exist there's also speculation that's not just a 16 core 32 thread part would make sense but also potentially a 14 core or 12 core or 10 core part would also make a lot of sense but again that's a rumor different price points more rumors all versions of the Rison 9 would feature 44 PCI Express links well that could be interesting nice that's also the rumored number of PCI Express Lanes that the next 299 intel skylake XK be like X kylieqq X I got a case would have yeah so it would be competitive there but we don't know that for sure quad channel RAM support of course yeah yeah I already said quad channel ray I'm sorry sorry two chipsets X 390 and X 3 99 that would make some sense I guess from a branding perspective and then also that the socket which is succat sp3 which would be a four thousand ninety four pin socket so really massive socket and potentially LGA so who knows model numbers they're talking about would be in the 1900 series so like right now we have 1800 XS the highest-end risin 7 cpu so you have 1900 X or there abouts the 10 core against there speculating would be a risin 9 1955 and the top-end 16 core would be the risin 9 1998 X 1998 see that's an interesting number cuz now you're getting close to like actual years that we've like yeah maybe that a retro chip yeah does it come with like far cry 3 Blood Dragon back in 98 I mean I'm gonna talk about 98 right now come with that I don't know and then come Theory DVD included that would be sweet see yeah they should team up with 99 DX robo competition rebranding also rumor mills put the thermals at 155 watt TDP for the top-end part and 125 watts EDP down at the bottom for say a 10 core 125 watt TDP for a 10 core chip that sounds perfectly fine by me heck 155 watt TDP for a 16 quart 32 thread ship also sounds pretty awesome to me yeah so again guys there's tons of stuff just kind of bouncing around right here in the rumor sphere so take it all with a grain of salt but some I'm sure some of it at least might be more geared towards what might actually happen and then of course there are rumors going around right now about what thread Ripper might go up against talked about this a bit on Kyle's half of the show but X 299 potentially is the chipset that Intel might be launching to go along with their new potentially core i9 again all this stuff is really really not sure yet so hopefully we'll be able to bring us some more confirmation in the next next week or so as we visit Computex in person and get you guys the story from on the ground and all that stuff yeah cool all right over on the server side AMD has officially given a brand name to their what has previously been codenamed Naples which is the server iteration of the processors that use their Zen microarchitecture which then is used in Rison processors on the consumer side right now so on the desk I'm sorry on the server side you'll have AMD epic ep YC is how it's spelled like replacing vowels with wise yeah Rison epic and but here we have a friend this was actually at AMD's Financial Analysts day and here we have Lisa sue actually holding up a name the epic chip you'll notice it's huge yeah four fingers good four fingers across yeah so four fingers out it's pretty wide so here's where there's a lot of speculation as to like is epic going to use the same socket that that that thread Ripper uses that high-end desktop platform is is it going to be similar to that this does look like an LG a chip not a PGA chip yeah from from what I've seen I do not know if there's any pictures of the other side of that from the events I haven't had enough time to really dig in and see if there's any further than that but them what AMD did announce and confirm for sure at their financial analyst day is well first they're very much targeting the Xeon lineup that Intel currently has because the Intel currently dominates the server markets but this ship would have up 228 PCI Express 3.0 lanes which is absolutely the same the chips will scale all the way up to the 30 32 core 64 thread chip that Lisa is holding right here and would support 8 channel ddr4 memory with up the 16 dimms per CPU allowing up to 4 terabytes of total memory per socket which is pretty impressive infinity fabric is what AMD is going to be using to tie all of these together infinity fabric is already in place in the rising chips they're going to use an affinity fabric to communicate between Vega GPUs and the CPUs and they're also going to use it to communicate between different CPUs in a multi sockets environment like you have in an enterprise configuration so that's cool this is rumor so just again trying to distinguish what is announced versus what's worried but it's rumored to scale from as little as 30 gigabytes per second up to 512 gigabytes per second uh and as far as the infinite infinity fabric communication between chips which is absolutely insane which but would be what would be necessary if you wanted to maintain scalability while you're just adding more and more cores via adding more and more processors so that's kind of exciting to see what actual performance they're able to get out of that and of course like we already mentioned they're developing their GPUs along with this at AI acceleration as well as machine learning they're trying to help to develop both of these in tandem with each other so that the CPU side and the GPU side can both work together and mix workload environments to maximize just the raw computing performance you can get and I imagine scalability is of course huge in there that's that's really what they talk about with this is they want to be able to just pile stuff on which really makes sense when you take what they did with Rison and the different SMT units that make up horizon processor and just sort of building that out as they add more and more on there uh also on or also discussed I guess a little bit at this event is their roadmap and we briefly discuss this on Kyle's half which is that right now they have Zen in 2017 which is based on 14 nanometer architecture and they've talked about 40 nanometer plus architecture a refinements of 14 nanometer Zen to their saying is going to be based on the 7 nanometer architecture and then 3 is going to be based on a refinement of that they're targeting these for 2018 through 2020 so Andy's definitely not letting up when it comes to their development of CPUs at least on the CPU side is what this is mainly discussing which is good news for all of us who have been excited to see a lot more competition in that space in the past few months cool yes I'm excited about that on the server side actually because I don't know servers just have that that sort of raw power feel to them so I'm curious to see if AMD's got anything going on a supercomputer like sense right because I feel like that's that's kind of the crowning achievements of a lot of the the hardware developers like Nvidia the super-proud I mean like they named all of their Titan graphics cards after the Titan supercomputer that's based on on their architecture so it'd be interesting to see if AMD has anything like that in the works honestly that's something that just popped into my head right now I have no basis for that epic would be a pretty good name for a supercomputer I mean if it really scales it like they're talking about and if the Infinity fabric is really able to help all those difference you know rock computing elements work together then that seems like there's a lot of potential day so this mean epic is also going to see a pretty decent boost from higher memory speeds probably right if it's going to work the same way infinity fabric on the rise inside and it runs at the same frequency as whatever memory frequency you set so I'm not sure what going from dual channel the quad channel would affect with something like that right but certainly being able to run higher memory frequencies seems to really be the the bread and butter of getting more performance out of that platform so yeah I mean as they refine the the process and as they come out with new new newer chips they should theoretically be able to support higher memory frequencies right which should theoretically improve performance of a scale infinity fabric up to to improve how everything works as a hive mind yeah so to speak be interesting like we could see maybe you know for once memory speeds could affect like render times for video editing and things like that with infinity fabric yes before that's it's not it's more of the the capacity of memory that's been more important than the actual frequency but infinity fabric could potentially change some of that which which I'm totally fine with I mean it yeah it it adds another way to potentially upgrade the performance of your system over time yeah and what's easier than swapping out a memory kit yeah exactly so yeah I mean it's nice to be able to tell people yet you can build your system right now get a get a budget memory kit you know twenty four hundred speed or something like that and then you know a few months down the line you can upgrade it or something or wait for Andy to release release a new ad ISA or whatever microcode for the chip and then you can you can actually run with higher speed memory and then you can upgrade down the line right so yeah I think all that's good people in chat the noise in the background it's probably Hiro snoring yeah that's our hero snoring because he's right down here or if there's a low rumbling sound at the Train or at the tree which could be running by um all right now let's move on to Vega yeah yes Vega alright so again a lot of you guys have probably already seen some of this stuff cuz a kit did come out about him about a week ago right now that's the wrong one this is Vega cuz it came out about a week ago but it's very important information and and stuff so of course we need to discuss it briefly this is a PC world article by Brad sharkus was that no no okay so so we have a little bit more information about Vega specifically in the demonstration of the founders Edition Vega frontier Edition Vega cards I almost called the founders Edition how silly of me is getting so close with diversity met that mistake there so yeah they've run out of ID so clearly frontier edition that sounds Frontier edition that sounds like a like a place in Disneyland like frontier land it does for a glint happen to your land okay so the thing so here's use the card demo they showed that honestly I'm totally done with this this is fine with me I two completely different color scheme than you typically saloon gold and a PC it's blue and gold it's got this little LED thing in the corner I know it's not going to match with a huge huge number of existing PC parts Oh but it's a little bit different and I don't mind the look with the brush metal and the sort of inverse blue and gold with the Vega and Radeon logo I think it's okay came from so here's the full gold version with the included closed-loop water cooling for it this was just weird to see a blue AMD card yeah that's because they're so red and AMD like I associate blue you know with Intel I don't know I guess I should I should hate this color scheme because it's kind of like UCLA and UCLA a terrible terrible place yeah where's your USC pride where no one no one should ever go or visit treater horrible school but anyway there it is so the frontier edition is the first graphics card based on Vega architecture which of course people have been talking about for months and we've been talking about and everyone's excited about and super but then they're like hey here's the frontier edition how could we like give you guys a reveal that is more slightly disappointing than this basically an under clocked card designed for for data scientists immersion engineers and product designers rather than gamers which great there is a small portion of the population it's like sweet I'm one of those people yeah and then there's all these gamers who have been waiting for this we're like yeah so of course some of the first questions asked by Raja Kaduri at this read it was a reddit AMA that he did was when did we get the gaming version of this so it's what anyone is still coming they said there's more about the Vega version the Vega for gamers graphics card which will be revealed at Computex this next week so again more reasons for you guys to subscribe to our YouTube channel so you find out all information hey someone suggested maybe we do a gold PC and a follow up gold oh yeah there's a gold build yeah that'd be cool Gold bill would be sweet with the gold build was a classic I still I still thoroughly enjoy that video yeah it's probably worth a lot now that'd be cool yeah that was a giveaway system I wonder who yeah I wonder whoever won that still has that um they look upgraded since then but yeah so Vega will not be on store shelves the week of Computex just to point this out although Andy is doing a press event on May 31st at 10:00 a.m. Taipei time which apparently I haven't been invited to yet I need the mocha bout that I better that to what this press event they're doing it may 31st at 10:00 a.m. that's Tuesday actually I probably can't go to it cuz I've got other stuff doesn't matter I'll still visit AMD at Computex soon and do that stuff anyway so they are doing a press event which typically they have been live-streaming recently so you guys might be able to catch it from over here in the state's 10:00 p.m. Eastern 7 p.m. Pacific on May 31st I'm sorry it would be May 30th over here yeah it'll be May 30th 10 p.m. Eastern 7 p.m. Pacific yeah so Monday nights you guys go check out an AMD is going to be doing livestream where they might talk more stuff about Vega won't be on store shelves the week of Computex by any means but they did show the sniper I'm sorry the Vega frontier edition running Sniper Elite for between 60 and 70 frames per second at 4k Raja stressed that they're really trying to hit that 4k 60 frames per second barrier with Vega with modern titles I hope so he also confirmed that the 16 gig frontier Edition is going to have two stacks of HBM to memory with eight gigs each rather than four 4 gig stacks of HBM to memory so that's a thing - he was questioned about potential yield issues with HP m2 because that was something that helped back the launch of the feejee cards they were very difficult to find for quite a while he downplayed that but who knows what's actually gonna happen anyway all things said we're still they've still promised a q2 release of Vega so that gives them the entire month of June to launch something ok cool it's not really for a very taxing game do you know there's a benchmark that's part of it yeah I mean it's an it's a I forgive it it's a forgiving engine it's based on but it's based on one of the high-end engines be interesting to see like what and real high but I'm totally I could totally be wrong about that and pulled that out of my ass the interesting you see like what a GTX 1080 or 1080i does in that game at 4k yeah and if it's between 60 or 70 frames per cycle you could probably sort of estimate how powerful that Vega GPUs let's get a lot of the speculation about Vega is how powerful it's going to be when it actually launches and there's been everything from saying it's going to rival the 1080 TI - it's going to rival the 1070 yep and I could leave a pretty wide range with a pretty wide range and I can see landing anywhere in between there so we're not going to know until there's cards out there in people's hands and independent reviews and all that stuff so it goes all right if you got a Samsung Galaxy s8 and you've got that iris feature that Jesus iris uses your eyes unlock to unlock it which is just that the height of security and keeping your phone secure and everything it's already been hacked so don't trust it all you need apparently is a laser printer ironically Samsung laser printers seems to work very well laser printer you need a picture of the person's eye that's a relatively reasonable resolution why is it so loud it's like that's pretty much this may you just need one eye yeah well you know anyone I Atlit but granted that's also easily attainable for most people who post pictures on social media and then you need a contact lens and you put the contact lens over the picture the printed picture and then you can fool the iris scanner into letting you into unlocking the phone we put an actual contact lens over the paper I believe that's what he does yes just to make it like this curvature mores yeah it's it's excise so look yeah so let's say you're spearing us yeah it's to make it look like a real eye with the proper reflection of it so to figure this out sighs just holding the piece of paper up eh and the phone's will not Wow cool okay but I mean so I get it but my time I do that who's gonna do that who's gonna like I mean is it that easy for someone to get that clear and that close of a picture of your eye people post selfies of their face all the time I guess you're right everywhere then did it say how detailed the photo has to be cuz if there's like a 5d mark ii from two inches away that's different than a selfie that you take post on facebook with compression and but if that is the case then that's that's pretty very much right so here's here's the picture he took oh yeah with not a very nice camera yeah okay he zooms in up to there a photo for medium distance is sufficient okay well then there you go then that's that's pretty easy to do cool you can just pull that Haley zooms it in we zoomed it in with some editing software it looks like he's using GIMP or something like that yeah printed out with a laser printer so it needs to be a printer with a reasonable that can handle reasonable resolution good lord no it should use any money unlocks it hey so yep I'm convinced just boys I mean this is an emerging and emerging market of biometric security with portable devices which is on the one hand a very useful thing I mean I use fingerprint unlocking for my phone all the time and I always think like well that's either a very difficult thing to break or the easiest thing in the world to break if I've just been knocked out by a mugger and I'm lying there unconscious on the streets they can just take my finger and put it up in there and unlock my phone or something like that is the RFID implant that came got at LAN Syndicate last year right I mean that that is the next step of this kind of thing your body much much much more difficult to defeat or something like that I know the next time you see Kane he's gonna have like his arm chopped off yeah well yeah some guy really wanted time off you want to get in my apartment you need alright so there it is no don't trust the fake news don't trust the iris unlock my eyes alright I've been trying to keep up with this at least once a week and we talked about this net neutrality it's under attack I'm gonna I'm gonna go over this really quickly because I don't want to hammer on it too much but if you're not already aware comments are currently open so net neutrality rules have been challenged these net neutrality rules that were put in place back in 2015 they've been in place for a year and a half or so and if you ask most people they're doing just fine keeping all the packets going to and fro across the internet neutral so they can't be handled or mishandled by an Internet service provider they can't be blocked or throttled or slowed down or anything like that ajit pi and the current ephesus FCC want to roll that back to give Internet service providers whether it's a can Wired service or wireless service more leeway in controlling the data that comes to and from you most people like the vast majority of people think this is a bad idea we're okay with the internet just being neutral wherever you go whatever website you go to get the data and and and that's where it comes back to however unsurprisingly they voted on the initial notice of proposed rulemaking which was rolled out 2-3 weeks ago and they voted along party lines two to one and they have voted to take this to the next phase which is that they have crystallized rules and they are now accepting further commentary though so what everyone needs to do is go to the FCC's website post a comment how you do not think that rolling back title to control over ISPs is a good idea how you feel all data packets should be traded he treated equally and that you do not agree with his action granted they might ignore you and and go ahead and do whatever the hell they want to anyway however it's important that people speak out right now so that at least when they ignore everyone we can say hey this isn't what we wanted you to do and beyond that it will be more down to going to the voting booth and that kind of thing however for the time being thanks to John Oliver and the folks over at last week tonight you can go to go FCC yourself comm geo FCC yourself calm and it will take you directly to the page on the FCC website where you can submit a new filing and it can go in there enter and upload a text file of your statements bear in mind that when you make this post it is publicly viewable by anyone on the internet so keep that in mind however that's important because there have been a ton of apparently erroneous filings made that all have the same statement in them and everything like that this is something that I was going to delve into a little bit further but suffice to say that there's people who are using technology to try to subvert this process but the more actual people there are commenting with unique comments the better of a situation we're going to be in and screw anyone who's trying to subvert this process by using bots or anything like that so they're easily bots for knaves to position themselves against is basically yes they're using bots to submit comments with the names and addresses of real people so that I let's see if I can actually do this or not hold on uh what was it called was it called so no ha no one's making BOTS in favor of net neutrality I'm not sure these are all misery I guess I can't say that for sure or not uh Comcast or Turks that's it is um so there's lots of um accusations going on right now about potentially the Internet service providers doing shady things to try to make it look like there's more comments in support of rolling back title 2 um but if you are not sure if you have not commented but you think somewhat but basically a lot of comments have been made in people's names with using their names and addresses taken from some separate unknown unknown database and post it in their names so if you go to Comcast rotor comm WW Comcast rotor comm you can punch in your name and see if your name has been used in an FCC submission on this whoa ok let's browse that database and tell you so that's a good way to figure out if you haven't made a comments well has my information has someone made a comments on my behalf using my information absolutely that's kind of lame and and those comments that have been submitted are all using the same exact text that were basically say Obama sucks and a few other things like that it's how you can be damaged bla bla well because they're all using the same yes and there's there's been tons of them submitted anyway again I didn't do enough research on that to delve into it too much and I did not want to dwell on this topic too long because I've been trained to bring it up on every episode just to remind you guys I really encourage you to go over there ongoing diamonds yeah because yeah it's important keeping the internet neutral keeping the internet open for everyone to access for new businesses that start up with new websites to not be blocked by an ISP who has a competing service that they want to provide to you versus that other competing service that they want to they want to shut down yeah it's a very very so what's what's the next step now for the FCC like to to get C commentary period is open for a couple months now okay so it's going to be I think a couple I'm sorry I don't know the date but I believe it's two three months that this next stage is open for people to continue to submit more comments right and then after that they vote on it again and that's the final vote and then they'll initiate whatever rules they decide on based on that and again most people are expecting they're going to ignore most of the comments yeah are they going to take a bunch of these BOTS submitting comments and be like oh well look at all these all these comments yeah say the same thing that we're clearly submitted by BOTS but we don't care about that yeah and try to go the other way with it no matter what and again at that point it's just a matter of like well how can you get those people out of a FCC at that point it's a matter of how can you get the people who choose the people are going into the FCC out yeah and will not go that far because that's a bit too deep into politics and we try to only touch on the elements of politics that more directly affect the stuff we talked about which is technology although of course there's plenty to talk about with politics but let's not get too far off track let's move back to let's move into a new segment I'm have you heard where mmm where's where's my yes where's my lower third something we're all familiar with and I just never it's not plagued with evil missmiss uh you know deception and lies can diffuse it miss and that kind of thing indeed okay hi maybe hardware we're going to start off talking about a new Nvidia graphics card that launched this week GT ten actually that week ago the GT 1030 quietly launched didn't see too much about this a few sites got some samples from some third-party vendors and stuff but the GT 1030 is a cost alternative to integrated graphics this is the Nvidia reference design for it you can see it's a very small single slot card it's only got two DVI outs very low profile cooler so it's not going to generate too much heats it's got two gigs of gddr5 memory 64-bit bus 384 cuda cores so you're not talking about a heavy hitter here by any means however it does run a decent clock speed 1468 supports resolutions of up to 76 80 by 40 30 20 at 60 Hertz connectivity varies but you'll probably have any variants of the display port 1.4 hdmi 2.0 or dual link DVI probably two outputs and a variant of those depending on how much licensing your video card manufacturer wanted to pay for since HDMI costs more money it's going to be in an expensive upgrade over integrated graphics according to them UGA has a few different SKUs that are out that the article talks about and actually if you go over onto Newegg you can actually shop for these right now so I thought we would just do that let's look at what's available on doing 70 bucks yeah so these are all in the like seventy to seventy five dollar range and given that they're going to be low profile like a lot of these cards are low profile options upgrade for pre-built and low-power yeah a pre-built upgrade or a solution for something that you just need a video out for that you might need some level of graphics performance so if you're going to be playing back excuse-me 4k video or something like that potentially an option for you but yeah super cheap and I'm sure there's going to be people who take these and pit them against integrated graphics and that kind of thing but nice to know that they're super small MSI apparently has a more full sized one that's not low profile and then MSI also has this one here which is completely passively cooled check that Wow yeah ultra-low noise so yeah no noise anytime you can have paths completely passive cooling that that ups my interest over something like something like this of course it's going to be more limited use cases when it comes to strict gaming implementations that and budget options they're out there for you sweet alright let's move on to this article on a tech report FSP for Travis's source power Fortran source for something like that whatever they fist yeah I tweeted about this a couple days ago they have announced a new power supply which has a water cooling option why check it out the medium is the PTM plus liquid cooled power supply who needs a water-cooled power supply honestly well I made a joke about overclocking your power supply which I thought was mainly a joke but you can actually deliver more wattage no when you connect it to an open-loop cooling host like I believe these these looks like a bits power I'm is that if it's power logo looks like it it might be something's a solution by bits power down there why not just get a power supply that is rated at the wattage you need instead of overclocking it I don't know you can't do that as easily with CPUs as you can with like this seems primarily to fit a niche of like yeah that system build where it's like I went crazy overkill with water cooling I'd be like well you didn't know why to cool the memory and SSD and the power supply and you'd be like well my next build I'm gonna do all that stuff and here's the power supply like that's there's like five people they're gonna have to build a system where they water cool everything then it should only make five five of these unit and this is the power supply they will only have five it should be labeled one two three four five yeah so FSP I mean for the record I mean they're solid om of power supplies they make lots of very nice units who knows how much how much faith you need to have in your water cooling abilities to run a liquid cooled solution through your primary 1200 watt unit uh as you know this is very neat I guess it's very hey just don't I just don't understand yeah like has overheating power supplies ever been an issue I know every our supplies typically use very high end never why very high end components that it is bits power okay confirm that this is the FSP actual website for the hydro PTM plus and I just don't like I just don't like the fact that you're putting water even closer to the power source yeah like why don't we just have a water-cooled AC outlet did I mention that sounds smart did I mention it has RGB LEDs okay well that makes everything okay alright but if it wasn't for that it wasn't really RGB LEDs I mean one little tiny leak out of that little connector there fell love with the inlet and outlet any little league that gets into any of those ports you're done you're totally done I'm also curious like there's some pictures here of like you know some CAD designs of the block and stuff like that and this appears to be the block unit like I'm very curious what in the power supply it actually makes contact with and cools right I'd like to see the actual water because most power supplies you look at like there's a like big-ass capacitors and various other things like that in there like yeah I don't know hopefully maybe he's just anyway maybe a comfy Tex they'll have like just depend opened up version of this thing you can look at or something like there's the bastard doesn't do it just passive it's just like whoops it straight Baker completely completely aesthetic non-functional yeah all right EK here's some real liquid cooling from ek a new gaming series kit so he can have several kits for a liquid cooling that they sell that you can buy the existing kits are what are they called slim liquid and performance they have slim liquid performance and extreme series this is the gaming series because you can't use any of those other kits for gaming this is the only one you can use for gaming that's not true I try to make something to say something there's obviously a box full of lies Paul alright so they have a two forty to eighty and 360 they're all named after the radiator size and fans that are included and the difference here is that these are all coming with the dual five and a quarter inch Bay pump reservoir mounts how many cases actually have a dual having according to pay these days there's a decent number there are I wanted to say that there are but that one does be quiet - be quiet dark face 900 I just there are but there are also they're becoming increasingly unpopular it's kind of the hip thing with many factors just be like no one uses optical drives anymore so yeah yeah but there's a lot of cases that still do have them at least a dual yeah sure and it is a very viable place to mount a pump and reservoir because you can have that on the front and you can easily look and see your liquid levels in that kind of that's fun anyway so the gaming series kit is available I believe now or might be available soon again three different sizes comes with ek bard our fans and again that that BAE unit there up the front Bay Bay Bay DUI believe that's DD C Zion oh no wait hold on did it this Asylum d5 pwm water pump oh that's included day fancy okay and of course UK fittings unluck they include some clear clear concentrate to add into the liquid so that when you're filling your loop you can make sure to put some some killer in there to make sure you get no bacteria growing all right cool so those should be available now or soon awesome next up cryo rig we talked a bit on Kyle SAFF to show about some new career products they're also coming out with this cry rig h7 which has been a very popular cooler the quad looming RGB cooler version of this which includes RGB LEDs they've also reconfigured the pipe configuration on it to allow for 20 a 20 watt higher GDP cooling as far as classification and then apparently also improved performance over standard h7 15% enough that means cooling or what also edits forward for LGA 2011 v3 which the original crier gauge 7 did not have which is kind of nice you had to upgrade to one of their higher-end models that cost like 50 bucks for that so that's cool too and then you have both an under global oh go on top that lights up with RGB so here's a question does it go with rise and support out of the box do you still need to get the after bracket I am not sure about that I have to imagine that they would include it in the box since this is a yeah we shipping protein out after am4 is already out there right that would be the only thing that makes sense but they do have a name for bracket for the h7 so I would imagine if this doesn't ship with it in the box that yes you can still get it by contacting Craig six millimeter heat pipes and then of course NZXT scam software can be used to control the RGB LEDs which is really nice because often when you get an RGB LED thing if you're really into the RGB LEDs that everyone's into it that's fine if you're not but if you do get it often the software that's supplied to control it it's just lame or just has a very limited number of options available to it sure whereas NZXT scam is pretty mature at this point since I've been developing it for a while okay yeah that's all for off and heavy hardware let's move over to swordfight we're Kyle and I argue about a contentious topic for you guys and you guys can all vote as well contentious ism yes so arguments that's what we're all about right now so how to post this into chat on youtube and over on Twitch so we can argue but check this out PayPal is mad at Pandora because of their logo for their app so yeah so yes right here you can see Pandora on the Left yep PayPal on the right woah they're both Peas yeah their most piece how now the Pandora logo here is new they have they started a bit of a rebranding and redesign they redesign some of their their their logos and stuff like that um but PayPal was like hey that's too similar yes confusing memories and it is um huh people are gonna click on your app instead of ours does look pretty similar so uh yeah basically they are having a trademark law battle right now and we're going to save them a bunch of money in lawyer fees and decide this battle right here and right now so who should win this dispute what do you guys think is PayPal on the right because they were there first with their logo with the P on it or is Pandora and the rates because it's just a P man and you can't just make a pee and then be like that's my P and no one else can use P anymore oh think I think I think you know what Paul anyone can use P no one owns P okay you know everyone everyone has to pay to some degree and that rhymes so it must be true but when it comes to the type of P or the characterization of the P consistency of the P consistency of the P flow of the P it should be a unique P to you so if someone is copying someone else that's a T it's my rap name by the way the thing is is like yeah P flow people right so P flow you know if that was your logo P flow if you had to pay pal logo your P flow and then then like Papa Papa Playa came out with a track and a new logo with that P which is the Pandora logo you'd be like people are going to think that hey is P flow you're gonna use me I could get confused the thing is you can have multiple P's they just need to be different P's and while this is what while pandora's P logo is slightly different it's also similar in more ways than one I mean any any person over the age of 45 would probably get confused like on their mobile phone it's very ageist for me to say but I could easily see like my parents like looking at their phone and seeing like the Pandora the new Pandora app logo on their phone and being like oh it's PayPal just click it like we might catch on a little bit sooner even I might get confused you know and a drunken stupor like I often do and be like ditz PayPal and like why is paypal playing music now like what the fuck's going so I mean I think PayPal has at least a fighting chance to win this argument and I think it's it's fair of them to defend their current logo because logos aren't cheap there's a lot of thought process I remember when I was choosing a logo for bit wit it cost me some money to find a designer who would you know kind of a create create a logo that made sense and didn't really look like anything else you know it's tough there's a lot of logos out there already in existence so it's it's fine it's hard to find something when you do you want to protect that investment because you spent a lot of time money and research developing that logo people don't realize how much work and energy goes into making a logo and so when another big company like pandora comes along and just kind of slaps on some random blog that looks very similar to yours that could cause some sort of conflict or confusion among your viewers and I'm sure there are a lot of people who both use Pandora and PayPal right those two are very like they're very popular they're very useful they're extremely popular so I could see why PayPal might create a stink about this and I think it's perfectly valid because they're trying to protect their investment and their brand so tell me why I'm wrong Paul let me explain how me why I'm wrong I everything I just said um was heinous lies you're completely in the pit of hell you're biased all right sponsored by Plus no pinstripe and/or now you probably have an expectation of what I'm going to argue about here and that's P right there's pee everywhere there's too much pee they've taken the pee they've reuse the pee and you can't just do that with pee because you can't just own pee like you can't like you can be like that's my pee but it's really everybody's pee I read it but I'm not even going to talk about that I'm not going to talk about how everyone should have equal access to pee what I want to talk about is nuance subtlety and nuance and that is what clearly the designers of the Pandora logo focused on as they design this logo not only to clearly represent their brand but also to provide clear distinction between Pandora and PayPal let me demonstrate here as you can see the logo side by side first off Pandora obviously there is a pee in the center of a rounded square as is typical of most app icons now if you look at the PayPal logo here the first thing you're going to notice is that is literally the opposite it is the opposite of Pandora because the Pandora the center is blue whereas there is white on the outside PayPal opposite how can they be the same they are opposite you might also notice that PayPal has to piece a clear distinction between the single P over on Pandora and the addition of italicized font italicized font universally recognized as calling something out as different special or unique which makes it different special and unique when compared to the Pandora logo I rest my case that's stupid you're dumb and no PayPal hey those way superior company is never started by Elon Musk I rebelled here you got to go first Tendo or sucks inches yeah most for the win we've given people plenty of time here so let's see what let's see what you guys think it's horrible or you get the results horrible what are your worst oh look at that 40% for my new app PayPal PayPal didn't read the third option oh I never read the third option you should with this useless pay Paul actually which is a new app with a similar logo so it just sends me money we could all have it I need to I'm it's this app is in development we're gonna be launching the beta version soon you should do that it's just you click on you put much send you money cuz it's how much money do you want to send Paul I sent in five dollars yeah you know what you know what Paul now you know what an argument what the fuck's your logo hey that's true gonna look exactly that's that's why I argued in favor of it not being infringement is so my logo could also you'd be like I want to listen to Pandora or send Paul money I'll do that instead right now because that's what I clicking on sorry we get confused nothing to PayPal instead so thirty five percent of voters say PayPal had firsties and therefore they were actually I'm kind of surprised at that huh I kind of would expect but you know it's not too far off but but PayPal certainly seems to win this is a little bit different then the finebros trying to copyright in trademark the word react that's true that's a little different it's because that was just a verbal written word whereas this is an actual image is such a design it's really a design someone's created so there's a difference there I can see why it's true in that for you right guys that's a strawpoll will stay open so if you're watching the re-upload of this on youtube you're still welcome to go down there vote you could you could change the future you could change the future yeah all right that is all for 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all the work is done what I mean I mean I never said I think for me it's cuz they were typically like lower responsibility jobs it's like what happens if I screw up and don't come to work oh yeah nothing nothing about like practically nothing will happen we get another word that's kind of cool all right Andre race our mighty race - Lisbon Portugal March a great job what do you know about my country I know that your language is Portuguese I know you have a great band that comes from your your country called Portugal the man oh cool there you go I don't think they're from Portugal that I think I'm not careful I know that I always feel like Bates I always feel like pulled Portugal's being crowded out by Spain cuz like Portugal's right on the edge there and Spain's like hey give us some more group of Portugal's like we're just yeah we're just some coast right here yeah yeah right that maybe that's true and you guys had some brutal uh brutal um foreign import taxes - I never citing an SSD to Portugal once it was like oh five dollars or something like that was crazy I know from watching Anthony Bourdain that Portugal has a delicious and unique cuisine which is similar yet distinct from Spanish cuisine beef testicle especially in some of the places Portugal has colonized all right I probably know more stuff about Portugal is benevolent it'll take cool James you can't catch to the five-year-old's really will be better thread Ripper or Intel I nine uh that's deferred to say man we at we don't know anything we don't know anything at this point it's really it's really hard to say I hope they're both equally good if it continues a trend going right now AMD will offer a solution with a higher core and thread count for less money we'll offer more raw performance but in cell will have a higher a better instructions per clock when it comes to per core and how it's doing yeah which means that they would kind of go back and forth on the benchmarks depending on the software and stuff like that right so yeah there's tons of question marks out there but it's all going to be high-end stuff so um it's both exciting but also not quite as practical for people who are buying like you know budget six $700 systems yeah you know it's not it's not going to affect those people too much right but still exciting for us all saying is you probably don't have enough money to even buy your one I'm trying to say this I'm he's calling it's a more it's a more niche yeah poor market aster than the people who are building gaming PC's because but but you know there's there's a huge push in like into content creation video editing and all kinds of stuff like that so I'm sure there'll be plenty of demand for both of them yeah and hopefully there will be different reasons to say use this versus you this depending on your subject a cheaper one will be better yeah Quinton Moseley $20 80 bucks keep on living the dreams hashtag beer fund hashtag gaming fuel Cheers cheers to you Clinton cheese yeah mmm $50 tastes delicious nibble lukla Freddie Aaron now look at lettuce has said he will do a d-wave vid any chance one of you can get a hrl of quail tour please please please not Lou cliff I prefer get got tired of shower asking wait was what is HL everyone what do you weigh in each RL I don't know what is it you talking about D wait what is do you I mean this is something I should be aware of but I'm not d-wave do you wave do you wave systems do quantum computing Oh quantum computing okay all right I do not have any connection with D wave everybody and practical application for quantum computer would be way out of my my like either of our ranges for what we typically talk typically talk about yeah that said I'd be very excited to check it out sure and uh you know investigate into it more and see what it's capable of and that kind of thing but the fact I don't know when hrl quailed 4 is probably indicates that I'm probably not close to taking one that that I'm a post one you haven't been following the quantum computing landscape quite quite as closely as you could be more or less but yeah fascinating but not something I am currently directly have access to I guess right I'll be had respond to that Bob Ross holy crap Bob Ross the one and only black from Bob Ross $10 $10 a knuckle gripper for people that for people that build them instead of thread Ripper yeah knuckle Ripper yeah like it depends on the case you choose I suppose indeed go down $5 hey Paul D up my other Spyderco knives of them the tenacious that you use on camera very easily one of my favorite brands so my tenacious go it's over there I don't it's my only one better Co I still use a crappy just cheapy razor blade that I got or my scissors it's very very mediocre it's incredibly mediocre Alex B $2 upgrade from a 4770k and gtx 980 to a 1600 and 1074 1440p i would say you're good on the cpu man don't change the 4770k if you wanted to you could upgrade your gtx 970 to us a 1070 if you were going from 1080p to 1440p because you will be getting quite a bit more frames with the 1070 you can sell your GTX 970 for a decent amount maybe 150 bucks or something like that and put that towards a 1070 which are fairly reasonably priced these days you can get one with a pretty decent aftermarket cooler on it for around you know 3 or 350 bucks and see a whopping performance I would not upgrade to the 1600 rise in from the 4770k unless you're thinking about doing some more heavily threaded tasks like video editing if you're doing some rendering or if you're doing live streaming heavily then it could be a decent upgrade but other than that like the four cores 80 threads will be working just fine on that core pending on your situation in some configurations and at some resolutions you'll get less performance out of that 1070 with the 1600 then you would out of the 4770k you especially if you're overclocking near 4770k absolutely I'd say stick with a 40 like calcium stick with the 4770k and grabbed at 1070 yep okay good good option dayton hens nelson $10 love both your channels have built multiple builds with your help that's really awesome to hear as always I would like to use Rison with Linux and VM windows for gaining have you guys had any interest in doing something like this I honestly never worked with virtual machines that's something that um is still sort of foreign to me I get the gist of it but um I have not yet had a need to do it which is probably why I haven't delved into it at this point but um I'd be curious to learn more about it though yeah Peyton if you're not already familiar with them context level one text is where you would definitely want to go because that is where I've seen the most investigation into Rison performance with Linux iommu configurations that function with Linux to pass through I believe that's passed through the GPU so you can get proper GPU support with Linux so I have I'm wrong about that but yeah go go subscribe to level on level one text message Wendel on Twitter and he's super enthused about that kind of stuff and I will say I am curious about that but like Kyle and sorry I have not delved into it that much myself me planet vampire comm sorry I'm burping $5 donation I'm upgrading my 2600 K build which has a dying motherboard should I get a 77 or K rig now or wait hoping for coffee like higher core count for 4k gaming only definitely wait for right now because in the next week we're gonna have it seems like new Intel stuff coming out and even though that's high-end desktop stuff that they're talking about maybe something there's really it's really the stuff they've been talking about coming out with onyx $2.99 is is varied in many ways like KB like X for example it's all rumors we don't have that confirmed details for now but it should you should have a much better idea once Computex comes out of what's there yeah so I would say there might be more options that you might consider versus a 7700 k so it's definitely worth waiting for that at least yeah beyond that I don't think there's too many platforms coming out so after Computex you should hopefully have a good idea of the current landscape and what you can choose yeah charrid mtech for $10 hey guys would it be worth it to trade in my nitro fury in for an RX 580 for the vram upgrade or would that be a lateral move performance wise keep up the great content well both the channels um a nitro fury I'm thinking what that's probably like oh okay the fury for arch high maybe um it would be an upgrade for sure especially on the VM side I'm not sure I don't know because it's what HBM versus the way you're talking about energy carries supposed to still perform better I don't even know I have not directly compared both of these cards myself hmm I don't know I feel like the RX 580 might overtake it I could be wrong yeah you're right I haven't tested it myself near em um you got what four gigs of HBM versus eight gigs of gddr5 um I don't know I'd prefer the capacity at this point over HB m it's it's like without having tested both of them directly against each other myself and there's probably people who have done that and I would recommend do their videos some Google searches to people who have directly compared a fury to an RX 580 I feel like it would be more of a lateral move yeah that's my feeling again and I would highly recommend looking at people who have directly compared the two of those to get a better idea I feel like for people within that within that performance level of like sort of the Nitro Fury or nine Nano the only card I would really ask them upgrade would be a gtx 1070 or higher quite a few people and chatter saying the Fury is definitely faster than a 580 okay so which is the impression I had - yeah fury should be faster than his 580 thanks to all they get you guys in chat and pointed that out and pointed it out tactfully - no one was like noobs you dicks obviously some no even though that would have been totally warranted I was born no yeah yes a lateral move if not a downgrade so stick with your fury okay I think cheered him Nathan thatch thanks again for your donation on both halves of the show thanks for the last video you uploaded gave me the best idea to mount my daughter's neck to a d15 vertically so it can fit my s340 you de bomb Nathan if you're the same person who tweeted to me this thing I say again to you I am glad that that was able to help you out I know that's really a niche situation and I'm also still absolutely amazed that a d15 fits in an S 340 which is a relatively smaller case that's that I'm not too surprised that case right thing it's very small but I feel like it's got enough clearance vertically or I guess horizontal yeah it's the horizontal clearance but um yeah Alex Bevin two dollar donation thank you so much love your bits can you make an old 775 PC Alex if I had a motherboard yeah I mean I do I have a couple LGA 775 motherboards I do not I would need at first part of me says like no I wouldn't do that but then the second part of me says I've seen the random gaming and HD videos because his videos keep popping up on my feets and all he does all he does is post about like hey I found this old piece of crap for two bucks and I'm like like maybe I should find old pieces of crap for two bucks make videos out of them that could be interesting they do pretty well I mean there's subscribers also very consistent so yeah I mean his videos are good he does a good job covering stuff yeah concise and all that stuff so my Q stuff too you know but seeing stuff like that makes me consider other possibilities for what I might cover so I don't want to rule out something like 775 I don't have any media plans to do that though I just got an HP Pavillion a zero zero a zero zero zero from my aunt and uncle Oh God who have had it in their family for 12 years so and they just they just got they dropped it off at my house 2005 um yeah something like that so I'm I might be doing a video on that soon okay it's it's pretty hairy convenor estai popped the side panel off after I got back from Hawaii I was like good god it's like never been cleaned before no never never this is the best kind the biggest Delta in terms of performance increase anyway Luke Timmons can five dollars $85 Californian five California dollars should I upgrade go ahead chef grade my power supply for my next PC bill or be used my own t sonic and get cable mods surprisingly close in price Luke I'd say if you have AC sonic power supply keep using your C sonic power supply and some extensions because that's why you buy a nice power supply like a see sonic that's well-built and don't go with a cut-rate one as you can see you can use the same power supply for eight like Kyle's mentioning if like a 12 year old system if you bought a high-end nice power supply 12 years ago it's so gonna be good it would probably still work just fine branded it might not have the efficiency ratings and all that kind of stuff but for your purposes I'd say stick with that see sonic you weight sells adding stuff so what are you doing bringing attention $5 I'm upgrade from 4790k to and r9 390x to a GTX 280 I and Verizon 7200 with an nvme that I only have Windows on should I transfer games to nvme i/o I would say yes for within whatever capacity is able to be handled by your nvme Drive and so if you got a 240 gig nvme drive put on like one or two games that are the games that you play the most and ideally not GTA 5 s it takes up 80 or 90 gigs or something like that yeah like that's really what you're looking at what games do you play the most that you just want to load quickly it's not going to affect the performance of the game as far as frames per second it's just going to be like when you click that game and get me into the game it's going to be faster yeah so I'd say yes definitely make us if you got a steam or whatever make make a games folder on there but also have one on your on your hard drive or whatever so you can take stuff still install it without getting the filling up your nvme SSD too much if you get past about 80% full on your nvme SSD I'd start cutting stuff back you don't want to get too much past that because I'll slow down its performance true finally we have a Miss question from my half from Mike for five dollars I have 6 3 pin fans that I had hooked into a SATA powered they screamed at 1500 rpm bought three splitters I only have two CH a ports can I use CPU opt yes you can use CP opt for any other you know four pin fan that you have one wanting to connect that shouldn't be a problem um I mean it's not the only question here yeah so Mike yes you can use that CPU CPU opt is usually the secondary CPU fan so it's going to rent the same rpm that the CPU fan runs that opt optional it's optional you know um so yes you can plug in there I would also consider something like getting you can usually run three or four fans off of a single fan hub but I mean as long as they're not super high rpm fans or something like that so a silverstone if you look up fan splitter silverstone on Amazon they have one for like six bucks and it's one plug and it leads to three plugs on the other end and they're all daisy chains which is nice because you can plug in one here and then take the daisy chain and extend it out somewhere else to plug in something else I would opt for that well I don't know if you just want to get it done yeah just plug into the CPU optional fan if not consider something like a daisy chain that lets you plug in three fans for per plug or something like that yeah alright that is all for my half of the show that's all about some hardware oh no it's not dammit I don't keep any up - okay personally Lawrence thank you very much sir Johnson - you picking up a navy-blue CPU cooler shirts I've only got one I thought I had oh wait now I've got Martin and then we've got a bio sponsor shirt from Lawrence gets his double drats in Murray double Johnson thank you very much Emory Lawrence double Johnson you got a pub glass wait does Emory get a double Jones Emory also gets a double ooh he got the heavy middle gray t-shirt logo it's a good one and finally a Johnson - John thank you so much John from Virginia got the thumbscrew decal yeah you oh yeah alright guys thank you so much for tuning in to episode 106 we're gonna kick it off to a raid at which rate those of you who are on twitch right now we are going to go ahead and host Puget systems oh yeah hugest systems they do some really great work their articles are fantastic streaming we're gonna host them go ahead according to friend of Jarrell friend of Jerry's well go ahead and tell them that Paul and I Sencha and give them give them lots of love give them lots of love and praise Laureus they do some good work over there that's gonna do for now guys thank you so much again stay tuned tons of Computex coverage coming from both of us next week so stay tuned for 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