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it's your half of the show right now right great plan yeah okay good cuz I'm not ready for mine so I'll be preparing slightly for mine as you the worry about as you ramble on about don't worry about it complete nonsense don't even worry about it I'm worried okay um we should now be live to YouTube so hello YouTube and tell us which and tell us anyone who is watching our live show hi everyone it's awesome hardware we usually do it every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time and we're back on track this week this is episode number 107 and we've had sort of a the past month has been a bit erratic with our live-streaming schedule so sorry about that for those of you who maybe tried to show up and we weren't live when we were supposed to be but we're back now from copy Tech's things should be back to normal and back on schedule for the for the coming weeks we don't have any other plans to miss anything so thanks for sticking with us speaking of which we're back from Computex Cal and I 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during the show we'll give you a shout out at the end of the show assuming we remember today I think we will we're pretty up with that here Kyle store is bit with tech slash store he also has various paraphernalia in the accouterments category accouterments yakoo term it's that sounds funny accouterments you said cooter right so for my half of the show basically I got a big block of news some tech news and then we're gonna do some QA that's all thanks ounds great that is so let's just I've loved it straight into it has anyone been trying to purchase a beer a glass of beer I mean could I buy a glass of beer oh yeah for me yeah I was thinking about it from the folks over at Newton partnership finishes yes so this is again from North Dakota Fargo North Dakota is the Fargo Brewing Company established in 2010 and I believe this is the pale ale that he sent over no this was I think the blonde blonde the pale ale got lost in the mail yeah one of them wood was destroyed it was completely leaked that's why his letter was blurry and he really read it thank out your finger is probably a much happier way to open this than then wire cutters but wire cutters it was the nearest tour and so it's an active degree okay so while cowboys us out some of that let's discuss the relative scarce scarcity right now for anyone who's trying to buy a Radeon graphics card not particularly a Polaris based Radeon graphics card they're just hard to find it's sold out everywhere and where you can find them in stock they're grossly overpriced way to pull a Polaris card yeah what at 570s Radeon rx5 70s and 5 80s they're hard to find yes really yes that's what I just said wait say it one more time so I can make very difficult to find what's good knew it when I didn't hear about this now Kyle why why aren't you familiar with this with this this proceeding because I've been busy covering technology in different country that I forgot about the rest of the kind of technology that was announced elsewhere man doing site is just alright here's here's our x5 70s at new egg cheers Cheers I hope this hasn't gone bad again you don't think it would right bigger doesn't go bad it's in the growler all can go stale well it can ooh that's very refreshing yeah it's very like crisp and light it's very light but not like a Bud Light light yeah it's like a good light okay good found that all day are go light all right back to the matter at hand look at all these missing rx5 70s see they're just uh no no no by Wow even all of these combos are also on other no defiance what you're saying is we should take this opportunity to sell our current 570s that we own for a ridiculously high price yeah if you got anything any of those hanging around got toss them up on eBay because right now the cryptocurrency miners apparently are gobbling them up a resurgence and cryptocurrency mining is what is causing this for any of you guys who were just who just want to build the damn gaming PC and was like I'm going to get a 580 and now they're all gone this same sort of thing happened towards the end of 2013 if you guys were around at that time lots of AMD graphics cards snapped up by bitcoin and litecoin miners at that time causing a similar shortage as well as a price spikes where they were available particularly in reseller sites like eBay that kind of faded out because Asics became more available and Asics is an application-specific integrated circuit so those were basically chips that were designed specifically for Bitcoin mining and litecoin mining whereas with when you're when you're mining on a GPU you're using gpgpu general-purpose GPU software which is not as efficient as a chip that's designed specifically for it so Asics became a thing the the amount of power required for GPU mining sort of started to die out and we this didn't happen but there's been a resurgence in newer hashing algorithms like etherium dagger Hashimoto or Z caches equi hash that has made GPU mining profitable once again there's also been recent jumps in etherium and Bitcoin at prices that have also increased the validity of this kind of thing twenty-five hundred and 25 USD two thousand over two thousand five hundred dollars u.s. is the average price of a Bitcoin across all exchanges right now Wow um and then I was talking in Taipei a little bit with Wendell about this and he said etherium mining is is taken up too and the theory of mining has I don't know he explained things to me which I intended to absorb and recount to you guys but now they gone because jet lag because jet lag just blame jet like they're everything thanks anyway the point is that these are bio these they're viable means of mining once again in particularly in particularly if you live somewhere where you not to pay a lot for electricity like us here in Southern California like yeah yeah sure I'm going to set up a mining rig no nope like electricity costs much money here we don't live like conveniently close to a bunch of hydroelectric power that kind of thing and even those of us who use so even those of us who have solar setup it's not as much of a viable solution for this type of thing so you kind of have to have that combination of like you got to be able to have cheap electricity access to the cards and then maybe you can mind some of this stuff I've heard depending on the rig you set up you know a modest configuration can net you you know 100 bucks a week or something like that yeah but obviously that varies based on a lot of different variables see I'm just I'm just curious do you notice like your electric electricity bill is like significantly higher to when like we're reviewing new AMD or Nvidia graphics cards oh yes doing my tons of benchmarking if I have to I mean ask times that and income if I combine that with like see with doing this summer when it's summer cuz their electricity cost more in the summer here when people when people are more likely to be using it true yeah and like when the 1080 has launched last year yeah like right after Computex yep I was running a bunch of benchmarks and like it was it was very expensive my grandpa like literally like came into my room he's like can you pay the electricity bill this month because it was just like double the price and he knew it was because of me guess he like basically late lives in the dark I get regular he met Eric letters from Southern California Edison now with little graphs that says here's like what a what a like a responsible electricity using here's the average for your neighborhood here's you you can use you you suck you thank you asshole you just like and like a benchmark but most people probably village don't work from home all the time on yeah pewter is juries electricity right yeah I'm gonna get some good how are you I gotta get some solar setup that would be nice honestly for considering that I work at home and what I do I use relatively not that much yeah but it's all relative okay there are some concerns of course about these developments with the AMD cards becoming scarce and hard to find the fear is that the cryptocurrency miners aren't really gamers and these are gaming graphics cards matric aming so long term people might say this could potentially hurt AMD's position in the gaming world especially if you have less adoption of their graphics cards right now when people would might be hunting for them you know when when that is kind of the I mean that's really where they selling them right now isn't with the five es in the 570s they don't have much in the higher end so it does kind of suck that that makes it difficult for people what I actually use them for game gave me to find them a quote from the article says etherium has been the main reason for increasing AMD graphics card prices but Z cash and libery lb are why could do the same to nvidia gtx 1060 can do about 21 mega hashes per second and aetherium compared to 26 mega hash per second on a 570 but it also uses less power and currently cost less so you know those are the economic decisions that the coin miners are making which results in you guys not having graphics cards to buy yay Bitcoin mining alright sweet so what might be a solution to this in a conveniently related story that we will now gracefully segue into maybe a graphics line glad you made for facto currency mining yes yes here's an article on video cards about that very thing Wow pardon me this video cards dock video cards dot-com so rumor rumor rumor but the rumor is that AMD Nvidia might be toying with the idea of actually releasing graphics cards specifically for Bitcoin mining or cryptocurrency mining there's not a whole lot of information on the article here but suffice it to say that NVIDIA has potentially a GTX 1060 with the JP 106 100 GPU it would be a custom Edition made just for cryptocurrency money it would lack display connections so it would be an add-on card kind of like what a Tesla would be and in the workstation environments probably would not support gaming at all you'd only have a 90 day warranty it would be cheaper than the models they make for gamers probably because they don't have to do things like pay licensing the HDMI for the video out and they would be sold by adding board partners so who knows how viable this will be again like the Asics are developed for the various crypto cryptocurrency variants that are out there you know GPU can compute options might be less less of an option this but hey anything that I think keeps cards and stock for people actually want to buy them for game this would be a good thing and the article also says that AMD is planning a Polaris based model kind of in the same vein but there's no details yet on that because they could lower the the TDP on them somehow even further or just make more power efficient in general so that it's not quite as expensive our good buddy Anthony from tweak town just commented in a YouTube chat Anthony he turned it on his bit coining set up yesterday eleven GPUs and it's currently sitting at an estimated average of nine hundred dollars per month well although I don't know if that's nine hundred us sir our Aussie are those Aussie bucks we're talking yeah how much does he has to pay for his electricity what's nine hundred awesome bajillion although see he has the advantage he is the advantage right now because it's winter down there I type in Aussie bucks to use me and Google still knew exactly what I was talking about a little Google a 901 one Australian dollar is seventy five percent of US dollar so even at nine hundred Aussie bucks he's still paying 675 us alright and that's what that eleven card rigged but we don't know what cars he's using no maybe he can write an article on tweak ten about that yes happy ed free just just for the help well anyway hi Anthony oh wait we did did you see Anthony yeah yeah you end up with him at the brass monkey party as they hosted over you yeah you I was had to drink your drinks for you I didn't get it no I was like you're being responsible work doing stuff that I should have been probably making sure it had videos didn't work there for that you know I did side it's Anthony briefs they start anybody didn't get saved by Anthony but it was good to see you at Computex and he did say it wasn't that's nine hundred us he's talking so that's o US dollars pretty penny very large penny American Dad again if you're in Australia you know in its winter use that to heat your home at the same time everybody wins winter is coming okay let's move over to the big news our continuation to the big news so a lot of you guys are probably at least somewhat familiar with this if you have been following either of our channels for the past week or just the tech world in general because there's been lots of discussion about this Intel skylake X new series of CPUs a new high-end desktop platform X 299 chipset and a stack of nine CPUs ranging from four cores all the way up to 18 cores so yeah course City not going to like dwell too much on these details because we do have some additional discussion plan on Kyle's half of this show so we're going to try to stick to kind of the the facts base stuff here but with with just a brief bit of commentary sure and then we'll continue that in Cowes half because like it's all the rage thing right now to make a video video about how Chris likes everyday like X and you are about this extra now I'm not gonna I'm not gonna toot my own horn or anything and point out that I had one of the original videos about this where I raised some questions but I mean I wasn't coming up let me get Linus jumping in everybody else and eventually you know eventually everyone copies me I guess what I'm thinking okay no actually I did enjoy minuses video I'm sure a lot of Yahoo's nice have seen that it's are it's already almost the two million views and in my mind Linus is dropping his video about that kind of has like its it took what was sort of starting to build and kind of just it really increased the catapult today yeah the surge of of sort of anti what the hell is Intel doing right with this launch thing going on right now but point being there's a bunch of CPUs there's two KBTX CPUs a four core four thread and a fork or eight thread those at the very bottom of the stack those only have 16 PCI Express lanes they are going to slot into LGA sixty-six socket motherboards just like the much more higher core count ones as well there's rumors already the like those CPUs that are under there for the KB Lake X are really really just KB lake like 7700 cores that the DES Linus said they stapled it to the x16 and put it on the 2066 substrate having only 16 lanes available for something like an x - 9 - 9 board means that there is going to be a really like right now if you buy next ninety nine board and you look in the you open up the booklet for it it'll usually have two sets of configurations for twenty eight lane CPU and a 40 lane CPU which are the two options depending if you get the entry level x99 as their broad willy or the higher-end one now there's going to be 16 lanes 28 lanes for 444 lanes yeah and just a huge amount of things that might be on the board that may or may not work so motherboard manufacturers in a very confusing situation where they have to either design a board kind of geared more towards the low end with fewer things but then like dropping in a higher end chip doesn't make as much sense in there right or geared towards well taking advantage of all the PCI lanes that are available in a high-end desktop platform but then if you drop in one of those cabling X CPUs onto it you probably have a bunch of stuff that's that turns off so they said there's more stuff about it as well again to continue to discuss so we'll leave more of that forecast out of the show but um some more specs stuff at least that can be derived from this an antique article about it and something that's sort of been realized by a lot of the press as a as we've gone to Computex because there have been a skylight hex CPUs that have been that have been going around there's a bunch of X - 9 X 9 and 9 systems that have been on display but all of those systems have been using only up to the 10 core CPU that's that's available right now so it seems like those CPUs are a little bit more ready it also seems like the really high core count use their distinguished by LCCC low core count and those are the six to twelve core variants then this high core count HCC was the 14 to 18 core variants but it seems like the first four the six core eight core ten core and twelve core are what's actually going to be available when this launches in the coming weeks there is some NDA steps that we can't discuss about that as well but in the coming weeks I think is fair enough to say so the i7 7800 X is the six core 7820 X is the eight core the 7900 X is the ten core and the I 979 xx x is the twelve core the 7820 x is going to be the eight core 600 dog processor this is what a lot of people are calling probably kind of that sweet spot of getting the most bang for your buck out of it that's the highest low core counts variants with the base clock of 3.6 gigahertz and a 4.3 gigahertz turbo as well as a 4.5 gigahertz turbo boost max 3.0 which will take the two fastest cars on the chip and automatically overclock them so up to four point five gigahertz on two cores and then 4.3 when it's fewer course we don't know exactly because these have been tested and that's not laid out in the specs get supports for ddr4 2666 speed memory which is nice and the big disappointment for the eight core is it only as 28 PCIe lanes which 8 cores CPUs back to the 59 60 X I've had 40 at least so that was a big disappointment is that Intel decided to really hamstring the amount of peripherals that you can connect up to that 8 core CPU by putting ass $400 premium between the $600 8 core and $1,000 10 core and $1000 10 core is what you got to do in order to get your full complement of 44 PCIe links so Intel continuing to play their game that they've been playing as far as segmentation of the CPUs and making you pay more money for you know the most functionality that you want um and we'll have to see how that plays out once the summer continues and we have the launch not just of this platform from Intel but also AMD stripper platform which is also theoretically coming and thread Ripper is what a lot of people have assumed is the reason why in sell is even doing 12 or 14 core or 16 core I'm sorry fourteen sixteen eighteen core I should say CPUs on this platform because it really seems like those weren't part of the plan until Andy came out about a week before Computex and announced it week week and a half and then in sub was like oh like our halo products can no longer be that 12 core CPU be exactly because it's going to get up shown by AMD saying well we got a 16 core and when's the last time Intel announced such a huge like CPU to four stack and you know at copy Tex no less and really didn't is not going to have it ready until late that same year or maybe even early next year like the fact that we're not going to be seeing you know the 14 through 18 core CPUs till end of 2017 but Intel has just announced it right now it seems like to say the least premature and and very reactive well I don't be meditated and I certainly found it a bit disingenuous because they did talk to the press a good about a week before Computex and we were provided a decent amount of information that's what my original video was based on it was not indicated to us at all that those high at those top three CPUs we're going to be available and at the same time as the rest in the stack right that's only come out a little bit later this week as people have gone to Computex and got a little bit more information about these things it's because until doesn't really even know the information about these things it's making it up as they go seems to be potentially the case and I think and and it makes perfect sense when you've been in the lead for 10 plus years you know a full decade more or less in the desktop CPU market and then all of a sudden you know the only other challenger in the game steps it up a lot and and and basically you know starts to take like the title I mean it's a numbers game type of thing like we see this with every industry or every market really remember like when monitors came out like having the highest refresh rate was like a huge thing well we're doing we're doing 75 we're do 100 we're doing 144 we're doing 200 plus or whatever you know it just keeps going it's the same thing here it's its core count now and that's why I feel Intel his rush to this you know hyper 12 core launch is because AMD came out with you know they announced thread Ripper and stuff and so obviously it's a it's just doesn't necessarily mean that more cores is better in every sense of the word but I think just from a marketing standpoint and the way that the corporations see it is like we need to be the best we need to have the the highest of everything we need to be the title holder for something as trivial as core count I mean when it comes down to it the architecture has a lot more to do with it as we've seen in the past but I think just from a corporate sort of standpoint Intel feels threatened which is good in a way it's about time they feel threatened it's been like I said a long-ass time before there's been some real competition in the high-end desktop market for CPUs so you can you can definitely you can definitely sense Intel sweating right now but I think that they're handling it poorly as opposed to like like what Linus was saying in his video like just make the best thing you can now and sell it for as cheap as you can and that will ensure that you know you're staying afloat against the competition but it seems like Intel sort of jumped the gun here and obviously we'll talk a bit more about that on my half of the show but indeed we with a lot to talk about yes and I think I think there's I feel like this it's still in the gestation period to like the information is just coming out there's no official reviews although we will talk about some leaked performance numbers on Kyle's half as well legit here's here's here's some early stuff that came out of Computex this is a group of 3d article it came out and this is just referring to some of the discussions that have been going on at computer some of the partners at Intel works with which mainly means motherboard manufacturers and just a little bit of information that's trickled out for instance the article quotes again a anonymous vendor is saying that none of the partners I currently have their hands on or have you even seen the 12 core 14 core 16 core or 18 core parts that Intel has been talking about so those don't seem to exist or I mean they don't seem to be ready or at least have any samples going out for validation or testing anything like that the they did do some early overclocking that some early overclocking numbers of stuff like the 7900 X and they're basically saying that they're hitting about four point two to four point three gigahertz overclocking which is about the same frequencies of bread while he was heading for the high core count like the 69 50 X it depends on the ASIC quality of course but the 4.5 gigahertz turbo that you see on the specs again is primarily going to be the two cores for turbo boost max 3.0 but again this article reiterates the fact that it doesn't seem like those higher-end core counts CPUs are going to be available when this launches so yeah that it's it's rough it's it's like Intel attacking them on you can look as good or bad until attacking them on as a paper launch just to like throw shade up because AMD theoretically has the thread Ripper coming seems a little bit more like a desperation move or just something where they're like oh crap we have to do something so yeah but let's talk about one of the other probably slightly less well-known continuing kind of disappointment things well again again a mixed bag like some cool things but also some disappointments which is the raid configurations that are going to be available on this new platform and here's the article from PC world by Gordon ma um I have a funny story about Gordon long after you okay fun interaction I had with him excellent context he's yeah I saw him there too briefly yeah all right so issues are shown off this raid card heared we what do they call it the hyper M 2 by 16 card which allows you to add 4 m dot to nvme drives on a single PCIe card and that allows you to basically shove a bunch of extra m dot to nvme devices onto your X to 99 configuration they said that they could combine up to 20 devices in raid using a new system called VR OC virtual raid on CPU and I believe me rock me Rock Yankee that sounds like a cool like a cool name Mira it's like a Grand Theft Auto there you go umm now from my understanding the X to 99 chipset will allow you to connect up to 3 m dot 2 nvme devices that you can control via Intel Rapid Storage Technology which is the pre boot rate environment that you can set up by turning raid on for your ear controller and I believe that is separate from this I think that is still a thing that you can have up to 1 2 or 3 raid devices and that's probably compatible with the different raid configurations that rapid storage technology has already been able to do which is typically raid 0 raid 1 and raid 5 R and it seems like an add-on technology right this is different this is virtual raid on CPU so it's using the CPU to catch as the to do the heavy lifting for the raid configuration but it is bootable which is something that a software raid that you might have been able to configure before is not so that's one of the cool things also the expandability expandability up to 20 devices altogether is pretty cool too and again they have this demo mode right there with that Asus raid card and they had what they had eight devices they were using eight until 600 P SSDs which are okay they're decent why would they use into nvme SSDs Paul is Intel they use much faster competitor drives like the samsung 960 pros for example that's a good just makes much more sense if you were trying to boast impressive numbers the great question god I'm so confused right now about this demo what have you maybe shed some light up about that because this otherwise pretty cool raid solution from Intel is restricted by several things one is that it only works with Intel nvme SSDs Oh which is pretty lame yeah pretty lame I mean feet that's why they yes why they're using 600 PS as these here they're obviously much faster SSDs available to say nothing of the Intel 750 but a samsung 960 Pro like you've already mentioned so that sucks the configuration that they had running here was hitting about 12 gigabytes per second reads at least I think it was doing more like 4 to 5 gigabytes per second writes Intel says in theory with 20 devices it can hit 128 gigabytes per second which is pretty which is pretty nuts but again these stupid caches that they put in there requires Intel Intel drives to use raid it only works with skylake X so will not work with KB like X and it only works with raid 0 out of the box here are their numbers this is the best here are their results if you want to take a look I am I ammeter as well it's crystal this mark so but ok again about 4.5 gigabytes per second on the writes and this this stupid freaking thing right here what said this is an they've gone the way of Apple it's so true yeah so it's so true they see those chats both chats are the same thing at the same time this is your dongle I put USB actually don't think it's a USB dongle yeah it's a business it really 2000s it plugs onto the board you have to buy it separately in order to enable higher end raid functions so again raid 0 you get out of the box at rumored rumored that it will be $99 for the dongle that you plug in that will that will enable raid 1 and $299 for the one that will enable raid 5 now the the reason why Intel is doing this and this is my opinion but I'm pretty confident in this we No is because this platform high-end desktop is starting to overlap with a lot of the capabilities of their servers I setup yeah and server-side stuff is very expensive and they like it to be very expensive because large companies buy it and they can make very good profit margins that way they're worried that allowing the X 299 the new high-end desktop platform to do this stuff just out of the box without some added cost will make savvy IT people who want to save a small business some money be like oh well I don't we don't need to go with that dual xeon platform i can just get you this on x 299 set up some raid you'll basically have all the functionality with that that you have a Z on with for you know less money of course and that's less money you don't want to compete with himself sure but I think just from like a marketing standpoint and maybe like an ethical standpoint wouldn't it have been better and like given Intel less heat or attracted less negative attention had they just disabled that all together like have they not just had they not even offered the paid dog like because having like raid keys and stuff I mean I just feel like that's a that's an immediate cash grab type of thing it's like Intel should have just left it out entirely instead of because the fact that they've turned it into a dongle means that they could have easily just built it into the board but they have created a separate piece of hardware for it just to get more money and to not compete with themselves obviously but I just feel like it's it's attractive attracted more negative attention than it is going to actually profit them alone and I mean the physical the physical bit of hardware is a lot more difficult to to spoof it was if it was purely a software solution and they were trying to protect this and lock it out having that having the hardware requirement it's the same reason why like really really expensive five thousand ten thousand dollar software suites have a hardware key that was required to be plugged in but I mean beyond that it's really it's it's the same reason why consumers are going to be upset that the eight core Intel CPU only has 28 PCIe lanes it feels like a step back and something that's been taken away that was there or it's been pretty standard right now for Intel's SATA controllers at least the one that's part of their chipset that can control usually the six devices to have raid zero one five zero one and five support and it's going to be very very it's going to make a lot of sense for a lot of people who wants to actually invest in getting you know four or more nvme SSDs that they are going to want something like raid five and it sucks to have to spend three hundred bucks on that on a platform where before it's felt like that thing has come along for free true now again I feel like there is some potential counter to this I mean if you do want to stick up for Intel to some degree because like I said the information they told us about Eckstein and X 299 says that you can have up to three nvme devices connected with Intel Rapid Storage Technology and that if it works same way as it does before can create a bootable raid array it is Hardware controlled it is pre OS so that can be a viable alternative for this and until it could be saying well look this is a configuration that is higher ends most people aren't going to be doing more than three m dot two nvme SSDs and you can do the stuff you could before with that so again since some of the stuff is still pretty early and since the embargo hasn't lifted for full reviews on any of this hardware or anything a lot of that still remains to be seen but again just one of those things and some decisions that Intel has made with this launch and with this platform that seems a little bit I don't know could be better in a lot of ways right so yeah again we'll continue to discuss this on Kyle's have the show let's move on to a couple other things this was a random thing that I saw EVGA posts and it came up because Kyle and I have been involved in scrapyard wars and if you guys watching that on Linus tech tips channel it's the episode three of four has now been launched and floatplane Club viewers have not seen the final one that's funny you mentioned I was literally just responding to someone who was talking about scrapyard wars fme GA was after the story that you're about to now which it yes which I immediately saw in the comm for this so yeah I think this might be over cuz I think it's already it's already done or it's not I don't know two folks just this morning this is this morning so this morning EVGA wanted to clear out some 980 eyes and I was going to share that with you guys and say hey I need ci for two bucks that's pretty good deal of yeah they apparently have also left these are just on auto notify not surprised I'm at four per household via these are just the reference design 980ti is who knows if more of them will come back and stock are you allowed to say how much we got ours for on scrapyard worse since the episodes already out yeah yeah so I was going to say if we want to talk about scrapyard worse which if you guys we're gonna do Q&A and shortly here feel free to ask us we'll talk about stuff going up to the episode three yeah again episode 4 so the final one is outs a lot of people have seen that on flow plane and I've did you watch episode plans in yeah I did watch episode four already so try to separate and not do spoilers from out so four walls right while still disgusting stuff right up to episode three mhm I guess what we're saying but yeah well let's we'll come back to that in a minute this a couple more quick actually just one last news story here and this kind of goes in line with the Computex stuff as well asus x 399 so um this is I think the other big exciting news from Computex which is thread Ripper is a thing and it is a thing in so much that not just it's been talked about but there-there is actually at least one motherboard based on it that's been shown off and this is the Asus one I believe Kyle and I both talked about this and our videos covering Computex so you might already be somewhat familiar with it but thread Ripper the motherboards that thread Ripper is going to sock it into are pretty massive beastly boards it's really cool to see something like this from AMD because Intel's been ruling the high-end desktop space for a really long time but huge huge old socket look at that like face my two dies just mashed on one yeah one chip or one CPU really yeah basically it's like a split socket they're four thousand ninety four pins so it's LGA 4000 ninety four which is three times the number of pins that rise has with 1331 I believe 4k 4k chip yeah the socket itself I don't know if this is an early version and they're going to modify this at all for user friendliness but it looks like the socket actually mounts with three hex screws yeah that's weird which is different um I mean that's fine with me no I don't mind screw in the socket I feel like you rarely ever changes it's also this board open three two one code on here which I in three second one yeah see oh it's just the order right open to the border what you want is even one and such close one two three close one all right so one and then probably these are two and three I have to guess interests yeah yeah okay that's fun um order matters if it does beyond that uh you know it's it's it's a high-end AMD board from Asus so there's a new new name for it zenith asus so ACS I like with their rog lineup at least has a very clear naming pattern for all their boards like rampage is their lineup for high-end desktop Intel so rampage it's a rampage to the number for the series and then they have formula extreme impact on sometimes gene right so we formula is pretty high-end extremes use of the highest end other they have hero now as well that cancel on their impact more is Mini ITX and gene is is micro ATX so that's rampage for high-end into until hand desktop and then there's Maximus which is Intel mainstream right then there's crosshair which is AMD mainstream mm-hm and now there is zenith which is AMD high and that's a brand new yep think so this is zenith extreme i guess it would be z1e since it's the first line of zine of zenith stuff from asus new beginnings origin stories and yeah yeah so uh other than that i mean like just you know look at look at all the stuff on here you know there's the board you put that stuff in PCB plugs down here you've got a you dot - look at that SATA ports got some some MDOT twos on there - they do have at a press room button all right yeah the dev the USB Jen use 3.1 gen2 that's also connecting up there oh and the dim got to slot which is which is the thing they've done on their extreme boards which is basically a dim slot that they have rewired and plugged in with a dim riser card that has an MDOT to slot in it yeah which is kind of fun I think you can put two and two zine right that's what's happening now and are people seeing this right now perfect this pub can't hit the right keys no this week sponsors they're labeled Paul all the keys are labeled Suites sponsor is not gigabyte all right um anyway the biggest news that Andy announced other than this is continuing to be a thing is that it's launching in summer so by the end of summer I guess August late August and then it has 64 PCIe lanes so 64 is more than 44 true and that's cool who knows how they'll be configured we don't know which of those 64 PCIe lanes will be available for what things whether it is PCI expansion slots through the chipset peripheral connectivity over there or whatnot but um it is it is cool that there's many of them because it's definitely going to be something AMD can say again to put the screws to Intel's like oh you're eight core only has 28 PCIe lanes yep you know our six core has 64 some or who knows sure I mean maybe not 64 they're factual yeah they're starting with 16 I don't know there's much speculation with tonight yeah alright let's let's answer some questions if anyone has asked questions I'm assuming they're all gonna be about scrapyard wars which are only a whiff all right Geordi and Keller thank you for the $2 donation he said you guys are late oh we were I was protecting on time for twitch yeah forget to slightly late so must be a YouTube watcher I sorry I'm sorry alright you've clearly never seen the show before automatic met for the $5 hey guys welcome back sorry I missed the last show I had the wrong time also any gaming speakers at Computex I did not check out a single gaming speaker I don't know is that thing I mean Razer has like a gaming speaker to do right they've got the 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the animal thermal probe probe and that just leads over so you plug that in and then you just put that probe wherever you want it anywhere you want isn't a literally anywhere yeah just tape it down and then anyway if you're talking about something like in like an Asus Tough Series board or something like that then usually go in and load up the software for that and that will allow you to get the readings for that thermal probe oh yeah yeah Anthony Anthony Anthony from tweak town he says love you guys he's thrashing aetherium right now with 11 GPUs for PCs see he didn't even know I didn't even have to give us that donation beat seriously because he loves us I'm on cuz he knows we're making that YouTube money which is me and exactly heute poor guys on YouTube here you go Thank You Anthony that was truly uh Nate penny with five dollar donation he said welcome back guys what was each of your favorite moments of Computex 2017 favorite moment moment we're talking about our favorite tech in 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for LGA 1150 1151 so that's specific type um just remember what you're doing you're basically taking a seal between the heat spreader and the substrate on the PCB and the PCB that the CPU sits in then you're attempting to shift that cap enough to break that seal but not enough that you're lifting off that might crack the die or that you're pushing sideways too quickly that might slide to the side and perhaps scrape off the tops of some surface mount devices that might be on there so be careful do lots of research beforehand but a lot of people say that they get some pretty nice temperatures once I do that because that's certainly something that Intel has not been using the best possible material they can with is the the solder and the not solder the Tim that they use between the heat spreader and the CPU itself yeah good luck villain JK software $20 donation thanks to both of you for your coverage of Computex and ease back from the dead Vesey lat cpu line up in 15 years JK i absolutely 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in videos requirement so you're using up all 16 of your PCIe lanes from your 77 we don't Eckstein that's right yeah so um the rest of the lanes that are part of that does is up 20 I'm thinking of risin risin has 20 there's a 24 22 is 26 Gen 3 lanes and then 4 then the 2.0 lanes are dependent on the chipset yeah so you get 8 with X 370 with 77 Hunter K you also have 4 PCIe gen3 lanes which are dedicated to the DMI which is the direct media interface whatever it is that's the connection between the CPU and the chipset those are broken out via basically a glorified switch to connect up all of your other peripheral connectivity so you might have some MDOT 2's down there those can potentially connect through the chipset to the CPU in tandem with your 2 by 8 PCIe Lane connections for your SLI configuration where GPUs so that's the way that you'd be able to do that but remember you're using four PCI gen3 lanes let's switch right there so you might introduce a tiny bit of latency you're not 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costs we know the hero the heroes not too expensive get the hero yeah I like the hero if the hero is probably cheaper if it yeah I like the hero if the pricing is is equivalent yeah go for the hero okay there we go I like issue spicy take up a take away with two dollars have you considered doing a Dan a four bill yes yes ma'am Cal has okay friend ran its fifty dollars I wonder if Intel's playing possum and will increase the lanes of high-end I 9 to 64 your thoughts Fred I doubt it because typically that's not something that they can just turn on and off yeah um yeah and again we only know that there are 64 PCI Express gen3 lanes on thread River we again don't know how they're configured if there is strict in one way or the other there still remains more to be seen there so they could totally change it though yeah they could make thread I'm sorry they could change they could um they could make the high end what if they just made the high end wriggle hop the HCC the high tape make sure your half-breed okay fine right Shane W 550 dollars its Australian fifty dollars Australian come here which is fine we all know we already know that 75 percent of a dollar which is still plenty alright and we'll go to Australia soon very soon see s 188 creations last donation five dollars I need a low profile graphics card from my dad small form-factor PC would you recommend the GT 1030 is best bang for the buck no no GT 1030 I haven't tested it I haven't tested either but it's new it's very inexpensive and there's passively cool versions of it again without having tested it myself I'd say yes because I think they're only about 60 or 70 dollars and I've heard good things about them oh well in that case do it okay we need to end my half we've already gone way over time thank you so much for watching we're going to be continuing Cal's half of the show we have two Johnston's Tito oh my god Johnson's Tito thank you for picking up an overclocking ceramic mug and a words in a circle pint glass yeah and finally Brian Brian thank you very much prenup estate positive shirt I'm gonna go to the bathroom while you read off yours okay Christopher also gets a Johnson thumb screw decal thank you so much Christopher Brian from Michigan Johnson for the thumb screw black t-shirt thank you for that and finally Brian Brian gets a double Johnson right right Kyle said I think Kyle said that all right Brian from from Nevada thank you so much for that as well thanks to guys watching my half of the show we'll be continuing with Kyle's half very shortly the link to his half is in my video's description right down there will be still staying live on Twitch I'm going to end my half and then soon soon I will get to sleep yes yes forever sleep peace peace