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and it's like very minimal no effort I don't even know even care you know how tired I am right now or how little entrance I don't care oh because you feel asleep in my last week so that all right that actually relieves like all pressure on me to like be like what if I told you that I wasn't really asleep what if it was all an act then I will act along with you all right well then I will write it right you probably don't believe me I'll do it oh yeah maybe the whole time I was thinking haha everyone thinks I'm asleep but I'm really not that they're all clipping this and waiting to surprise me with it on Twitter alright hello everyone and welcome to awesome hardware this is the second half of episode 108 we already did the first half it's on Kyle's Channel check it out if you didn't already it's linked in the linked in the video description we talked about technology we occasionally curse and drink and do things of debauchery nature and that kind of thing so please bear that in mind and I didn't fall asleep promise you did don't do fall asleep go watch less what's outside people last week we were suffering from jet lag having just returned from Taiwan this week we're still kind of suffering from jet lag it's it's it's a bit better but we'll see we'll see how long Cal can laugh yeah we're also planning to go and have you laughing we're planning to go and have some sushi after this half of the show so we're excited about that and just wanted to share that with you guys my half we're going to talk about AMD thread Ripper and some bit of news on that also just a quick touch on net neutrality the games report of course since e3 is going on we're going to talk about practically none of the stuff that it's announced there and then we'll talk about some scrapyard wars because that has finally been launched in its entirety on the lioness tech tips channel and and we got got some make some to say we got some thing it's things just I got some things to talk about it ain't okay 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Ripper stuff we have an announcement from Dell about the Alienware area 51 thread Ripper addition there's pictures over here look at I never had a product before called area 51 I have they how could you not have a crowd like if your if your company was alien where I feel like that'd be the my first product that I ever made would be the area I feel like that's just yeah that's a perfect name for a product if that's if that's a company name you're anyway I'm digressing sir maybe they have I'm not sure I think it's an awesome name it's a great unique design uh-oh I should have gone nothing like cradled the camera I did I did were not we're slowly turning the volume back up bird I did provide a warning there so hopefully all is all as well as it does the camera are we little yeah let's tweaked a little bit I got it House Council on set sorry that's this is just the weight is too far towards towards me a little bit I think yeah that should be fine okay thanks to the Wu matter at hand so this is going to be among the first ways that you can buy rise in thread Ripper and in fact part of this announcement is that through 2017 Dell will be the exclusive major OEMs and threader for based systems now that doesn't mean that that's the only place that you're going to be able to buy charger for builds from put more than that just for a second look at this one here it's the same picture of a thread wrist turner for CPU look at that you big on detail from that Ren here I was used using the Arsenal Kickstarter oh yeah probably how they took that picture yep computer you see it as you can see here this chassis that they've designed which has everything kind of tilted at a 45-degree angle alien egg which which looks pretty cool can support up to three GPUs the base so there's obviously there's going to be a bunch of different configurations for the system that you can get base system might have anything from the 12 core 24 thread Twitter / CPU all the way up to the 16 core 32 thread third or per CPU will be talking in just a minute about all the various CPU versions AMD is currently talked about the base GPU configuration is going to have a gtx 1050 TI or and a Radeon rx 570 but the max as you can kind of see here assuming that they eventually plug in these graphics cards some sit under the power plugged in yep will go up to a 3-way rx 580 configuration or a two-way gtx 980ti configuration so that's kind of cool memory goes up 64 gigs you can get the base which is a 2666 kit or a 29 33 HyperX memory kits for the higher-end model up to one terabyte m2 PCIe SSD 2 terabyte hard drive dual killer II 2500 gigabit NICs and either adele 1828 o 2.11 AC 2x2 Wi-Fi card or a killer 1535 802 that 11ac 2x2 Wi-Fi card gonna be factory overclocked or at least you can get it factory overclocked and yeah kind of like you know the things you would expect from buying a high ends pre-built system we're showing what did they get a look at that this the the blown-up version yeah I just noticed that it wasn't on the we looked at that on the screen we literally flee right at the beginning okay as right as the dogs lost their I believe that's okay hello Milo everyone go follow her on Twitter mrs. Paul hardware okay yeah it's so the drives fit in this rack on the on the right side the graphics cards on the left looks like they've got a 120 millimeter fairly thick radiator here with a liquid cooling solution the the blue PCB on the motherboard and the green dims are just a bonus yeah yeah that must not be the upgraded version with diaper X and all that but anyway all this is to say that AMD Turner per could launch on July 27th because that is the information that came along with this information from the Dell Alienware area 51 threader addition is that it's going to be available on July 27th transit property yes based on that information the assumption as we made that July 27th is probably when this threader per thing from AMD is going to be available this article from tech powerup says a bit more specifically this is when you will be able to purchase PIB product in box retail packages of certain models of thread Ripper also expected a and B will launch about four SKUs on this on this date to 12 core options and to 16 core options okay and then of course all the motherboards that go along with them which are going to be suck its tr4 or sp3 are - that's the socket I mean that's it's it's LGA 4000 something it's I forget how many pins ERISA does this process is a full socket name TR 4 SP 3 are 2 socket BTR for sign in sake are what's SP 3 or 2 it's a more specific for yeah I don't know okay it is the first time I've seen it I've seen tr4 I like comics yeah I believe sp I believe sp3 r2 is because if you look at all of the LGA socket names they have the pin count which is what you're more familiar with - v3 x oj four thousand ninety four is what I'm seeing a chat I apologize if that's hopefully that's correct um be at the the threader per socket has lots of pins and that is the name of it is TR four SP three or two might be another two the number of pin G I mean some well sometimes they have iterative code names for sockets as they increase in size or yes skew or whatever I just don't know exactly what that is so I have a general idea just not specific you know what I'm trying to say but they will have the MDX 399 chipset and we did start to see some of these at Computex which was cool I did want to point out here though as we've already mentioned that's that that Alienware option here Gordon um from does PC Gamer I'm sorry not PC gamer let's who does Gordon um work for now um anyway he's next in a PC world PC world sorry um he says that it's not just it's it's it's not just Dell who's going to have thread Ripper stuff they're the only major OAM it's going to have three steps so that blocks out major OEMs like HP and Lenovo you will still be able to get boutique om builds from the likes of origin main gear and other smaller PC OEMs right yeah okay cool sweet now for those rising thread Ripper models that we were just talking about this is actually a couple weeks old so we kind of missed talking about this last week but I wanted to bring up this list one more time this is a tech power our tech powerup article and it lists them all here in paragraph form which is lame I was searching around for something that had bullet points and I didn't find it over here on yourself over here on this week town whitelist it'll tweak down the question is is it worth whitelisting is it worth Anthony I don't know if you're watching this week is it worth whitelisting tweak town to view this list hey I knew here yes buy a zero bias little biased go ahead and maybe pause it for the next five spots let's pause can you pause it and mute anything click on my dad and I'll walk you through blocking it what is that I've never done that before where's my whitelist why do we need to be walked through blocking an ad all right on this page okay so you must pay 210 $5.99 in order to to move forward Oh God had blocked what the hell I should I should have just done this before computers broken I'm seemingly just permanently whitelist them just at least on this computer so Celine if we'd have to encounter so many issues of tweet-tweet town every time all right in the add society this crazy yay-hey no way ha ha ha come on ha ha ha ad blocker ha ha ha the hell don't run some changes on this domain take your filters breathe' ah God I swear I've done this more times it's so can you just just look up the article from a different website though for some reason none of the websites just had this listed at a very easily legible format you know it off the top your head I have them eyes in the notes just do that but I can't show people I want to show people whatever they can leave they stop ears and I just hit reload why is it still all right Anthony as you can see here it could be ad blockers I'm trying to hit don't run pay time he was in this domain I don't know why adblock is popping this additional site up says whatever the hell it's saying it's even got select week time very smart tweak down it tells you what you choose which ad blocker tell it which one click don't run on pages on this domain hit reload I'll look there it is and then it's thing pops up again all right that's that's dumb sorry guys it's a we're not we're not going to show you that then use a different source that's what they're saying a different source what is that what do you mean do you have a different ad blocker here's here's what I can do here is what I will do right now on the fly for everyone at home tribe did you try refreshing the page I just yes I did I hit refresh I hit reload I did I did the exact steps that it told me to do in order to show that webpage and it didn't work not surprised so we're just going to go here we're going to copy the link address we're going to go over to Firefox where I don't have a block installed we're going to scroll down to that list we're going to use the snipping tool delete folder system32 try that we're going to snip it there it is Hey look at that problem solved snip snip snip that one in the bud alright so once again having attempted to to view tweak town and failing we have taken measures to extreme measures all right all that okay here's the list the nine rise and threader four CPUs the sixteen core 32 throw an option at the top the reason I wanted to pull up this list is because the names are freaking confusing as hell again and god dammit AMD I'm tired of this garbage there's already enough Intel CPUs that I have to learn and the i9 series and all that crap that AMD comes out with this alright there's some theory that all of these numbers line up with years that are significant in some way in what in computing history are you serious but was like The Da Vinci Code right now that we have to decipher this bolt I don't I don't know like what does that have to do with file you're not even properly sequential like look oh my the lowest and 110 core 20 thread right well okay the nice thing about sniffing tools I can draw on this that's fun I feel like we made a breakthrough I'm gonna use the highlighter up here alright so the 1955 is the lowest end from there you can jump up to the 1995 X this is a typo it could be that might be a typo that's got to be a typo maybe they meant 1955 this is this was copied from tweak town this could very much be a typo alright I hope that's a typo and it's the 1955 or the 1955 I was I'm even more confused then it would go from that to 1956 in 1956 X where you get 12 cores and you know a little bit higher frequency check out the TDP s on all these though 125 watts at 155 watts I mean if you can really get a 12 core 24 thread at 125 watts that's that's pretty damn nice and that's like lower than what Intel has been specking out there at like 140 watts and potentially up 265 watts for their 10-12 core variants we don't have numbers specifically for the higher end stuff because those are still just paper launch items the 14 cores are 1977 and 1977 X and the 16 cores are 1998 1998 X again they seem like years yeah but party like it's 1999 teen 76 to 1977 to just uh it'd be it'd be one thing if like all the 12 cores were 1950s again all the 14 cores were 1970s but that's that's not necessarily case like there's overlapping and in the nomenclature is that just makes you all the more confusing and let me see if I can check that other arc all right so the lineup is c2 tech power Arkell like come on tech power techpowerup you wrote out all this stuff 16 cord ships are followed by the 14 lb on time story so I'll Coraline up no this says it's still 1976 X right right now 1955 the 10 core 10 core ok that's a typo ok now that's a typo net right so this is this is a typo this is not 1995 X its 1955 X right and Anthony fix your stupid I block your stuff and update your story 1955 X ok there's your thread Ripper models that are that are potentially coming out though going from 10 cores up to 16 cores sounds pretty cool we don't know very much else about them other than all that stuff we've already said there's some rumors right now like the rumor was that the the highest-end version 16 core 32 thread was going to cost potentially 850 dollars that's very very very rumor though and I'm not even a pulp the article on that cuz I guess I could add you're saying it's right it's right here alright here's the article on that could potentially cost $849 you said you were going to pull the articles I know but is rolled it up but even the even techpowerup says let's be honest it seems like an immensely optimistic value undercutting even Intel's 10 core 7900 X which has been announced at $999 and tray quantities so probably not that but hopefully you know a range of AMD CPU options that are viable for high-end desktop computing and hopefully more on that soon cool all right I wanted to talk about broadband and net neutrality because I've been trying to bring that up a little bit to touch on it because I think it's a major issue right now and I encourage you guys to do take some action on it if that resonates with you now one of the things that they've talked about with broadband and net neutrality is the fact that the current net neutrality rules which is that internet service providers are classified as common carriers under title 2 of the Communications Act they're saying that that has hurts Internet service providers somehow it's caused them to not innovate and not expand their networks as much and this article is pointing out that the internet service provider lobbyists themselves tends to sort of have two different messages depending on what they're talking about this is an article about the NCTA the internet and television Association which is cable industry's top lobbying group they're pointing out that the u.s. is now in the top 10 countries for adoption of internet speeds over 15 and 25 megabits per second as well as in the top 10 for overall speed in fact the average peak connection speeds in the US from 2012 to 2017 as shown in this chart and also this is from NCT ata has been increasing pretty steadily the time period from 2011 to 2014 was was handled by what is known as soft touch I believe regulation there was some standards in place that were loosely enforced but they were challenged in court by Internet service providers in 2014 and that's actually then that actually challenged the rules that were in place against blocking throttling and papers prioritization federal appeals court wiped those rules out there were no net neutrality rules from 2014 and through much of 2015 it was in 2015 that the FCC actually did classify ISPs as common carriers under title 2 and as you can see after that the internet speeds just tanked right they went downhill they were terrible after that no that's not true great good they kept going up in fact they kept going up pretty significantly so all this is to say that if you've been hearing that's title to classification if internet providers is a bad thing and stifles innovation according to the internet lobbyists themselves that is not true basically what is this has been summed up as is a power grab by ISPs they see that the cable the cable television model that's been sort of ingrained in the US for so long is dying that is also quantifiable cable news or cable cable TV signups have been falling off big time which is why the major internet service providers are trying to have more of a stranglehold and more of a grip on Internet service because that's what they see is their next potential ability to get more money out of people so if you like being able to access any website that you want anytime you want and not have your internet service providers say oh we'd rather you not go there so we're going to make that site slow for you we'd rather you go to this website that we own so we're going to make that one nice and fast for you then you should be against changing these rules leave it how it is it's already classified as title to keep that as it is so strongly encourage you guys and you can go directly to go FCC yourself calm which is the website that was set up by the good folks over it last week tonight that will directly take you to the FCC webpage go ahead and submit a new filing tell the FCC that you support continued regulation of Internet service providers as common carriers under title 2 of the Communications Act and bear in mind the FCC might not listen to you because ultimately they don't have to as you PI and the people in charge there right now there's two Republicans one Democrat and the Democrat seems to be the one who has been supporting net neutrality rules the Republicans have been against it I don't want to make this a party issue or anything like that but that's really where it where it falls out right now and it's going to suck if they ignore people and don't do what people want but they might do that anyway and in which case we'll probably wait until the next cycle of the people to be elected to come through but again I don't to go down too much down that rabbit hole but just do what you can right now to let them know how that how things should be everyone who understands this issue who I've talked to pretty much agrees and understands that the that's the way it should be and that it's kind of stupid right now that this is even a problem or even an issue that's being brought up but when the guy who's in charge of the FCC is a former lawyer for Verizon then he's probably going to do what perhaps is in Verizon's best interest moreso than what's in the best interest of all the people use the Internet right uh speaking of Verizon Verizon now officially owned Yahoo and Marissa Mayer has resigned so she's not there anymore that's as of today and this was a pretty big deal that was going through in the world of big companies who deal with the Internet's but yeah Yahoo and AOL because Verizon also bought a while back in 2015 we're now going to be merged into a new division under Verizon called oath it's going to be a bunch of stuff including a bunch of websites they on like half post Yahoo Sports TechCrunch and gadgets as well as apps they own like Alto and Breck roll as well as tumblr will all be part of us now Verizon initially made this offer for Yahoo back in July four point eight three billion dollars in cash after multiple data breaches came to light over the past year they shaved 350 million dollars off that purchase price however they are still going through with the sale or they have gone through with the sale now so about 4.5 billion was what the final sale cost was Verizon's goal if it's not obvious to you what this acquisition is to continue to expand their status as an advertising juggernaut they have ad technology that they've acquired from Yahoo they have a suite of highly trafficked websites that they now own as well as all the you know just being Verizon Internet service provider whether you get well they don't that can I kind of cut off their fire gets cell phone service from them they track stuff to see what people are interested in and they use that to album ads sell them ads that's where lots of money has made these days guys can't talk too much trash on it if you use lots of Google services because that's how Google operates as well but just so you know that's how these large companies work so yeah they also have AOL and they're going to data mined everything and make more effective ads my parents still use AOL email yeah they're their data is now belongs to Verizon didn't even know it's still existed yep lots of people who figure out how something works continue to use that thing until it doesn't work anymore that includes me all right let's talk about games yay movies like like video games video games yes did you guys we're gonna dive into the games report because III is going on right now Kyle have you been very very closely following e3 and all the know stuff going on they know I haven't neither by I am not nice kidding I vaguely don't have I feel like the things are not I don't pay much I'm just no substrate just started updating in the wiki that's completely not I was unauthorized that's quick though against my will is actually really quick updating rape here a bottle opener yep open this bottle III is going on right now so there's lots of video game announcements and stuffs that has been happening we're very close to e3 it's happening in it's happening in in Los Angeles but I don't know just not really that interested in going it's mainly because of the jetlag yeah if I was feeling normal I might be like hey I shall go over to e3 for day or something like that but it goes through so apart from e3 the GOG good old games summer sale is now underway so if you guys want some good deals on games and if you like helping support the diversification of other gaming platforms besides steam which i think is a good thing gog you know it's not a bad one there summer sale includes a couple free games or at least games that you get for free if you make at least a purchase if you purchase anything I believe you get a rebel galaxy if you spend only at least 10 bucks now you also get Alan weeks American Nightmare so a couple semi free games at least with a base purchase and there other than that they have over 1500 games on sale up to 90 percent off that includes The Witcher 3 for 40% off stardew valley for 33% off her story for 50% off braid for 80% off and torment tides of numenera for 30% off it's a lot of things off yeah so go buy video games yeah babies other than that's here was an announcement from e3 or at least the pre III PC gamer event that they had the original Age of Empires is being remastered it's going to be called the definitive edition what do you think of this Kyle what you probably don't care if you didn't play the original Age of Empires I did not I did resent in IMC gaming that early on this was in 1997 was when the original Age of Empires launched it is now being remastered you were nine years old that was nine so celebrating its 20th 20th anniversary it's being remastered new soundtrack new zoom levels which is kind of cool when you have a game where you have a very limited scope of what you can see look look look at the old zoom level okay does look at that zoom level that zoom level oh I see Matt you can zoom that so it's the same game but just super clutch just different uh I mean yeah they've changed some of the game mechanics to allow for stuff that's been developed that's people have come to expect when it comes to UI and interacting with the game stuff that in 97 was unique and innovative that now you'd be like wait that's that's just how things should work I don't have good examples for that but anyway also 4k graphics which is super important when you have a game that looks like this nevertheless though Age of Empires is a a long time beloved game lots of people used to like this conservative side by side of the how it used to look versus the updated version I don't think the 4k 4k graphics is all that important or anything like that but you wouldn't have been able to play this game without bootlegging it unless you actually had the old CD ROMs from 1997 and that was a pretty rare thing so cool just do a lot of people to play it sort of a one of the foundational strategy games so there's that alright destiny - there's a 4k PC 60 frames per second demo that Nvidia launched it's very gaming yeah destiny 2 is coming soon I thought I had some notes for this that I don't but where'd they go the release date is now in October Wow yeah I never pasted that in there all of my notes are gone that's fine but anyway this is an Nvidia demo that they launched it's probably being played on some pretty high-end hardware because it is 4k and it is pretty like I mean it's very smooth if you guys the link to this is in the video's description I'm not going to play it at that high of resolution right now but it looks really cool it also looks like they're playing it on a controller but will will spare than that the c2 is going to be available for PC on October 24th Activision confirmed that that is about a month after that box 1 and PlayStation 4 editions launch which will be in September 6th the PC beta however is scheduled to start and late August so that's sooner it's only a couple months away but they haven't set a firm date for that so if anyone is interested probably keep an eye on the destiny to social medias imagining I've never played destiny yeah me neither that's ok oh good this is why the games record is often so lackluster on our channels like this isn't one of the three games that we actually play so it's hard for us to get too into it but this is one of the new titles it's actually going to be distributed on battlenet which is kind of cool oh the Blizzard lizard thing yeah we talked about this at the last week or a couple weeks ago cool but yeah that's cool Pokemon yeah this this one's for you Kyle I like Pokemon I brought in a Pokemon a story here because kind of like spoke about a proper Pokemon goth game Pokemon game is coming to the Nintendo switch do you have a Nintendo switch no I do not maybe it's time for me to get one though this might be what pushes you over the edge could be because it's not just like a Pokemon game it's a real pokemon game what does that mean it means but what a real it is being developed by Game Freak who is the same developer who has developed every title in the main Pokemon series since pokemon red and Blu back in 1996 and I know you're familiar with those yes so there it is so that's just going to be is it going to be more in the same vein as the originals just the same sort of play style and I mean again RPG again not maybe have details bear that but it is the upper core RPG Pokemon games an RPG Pokemon game ok it says it's unclear whether or not this will be the long rumored Pokemon stars which is supposed to be a port of the existing Pokemon Sun and Moon from 3s or a completely new entry sounds like a Pokemon porn parody but it will mark the first time in the history of the series that a main pokémon are GRP title is coming to a whole console that is true which most people will probably play it on the handheld version anyway that but that's cool I guess I have to get switched now oh c'mon dammit Palin's switch finally for the games report whoever watches horizon lunar colony map is going live next week I bring this up because I've kind of been feeling the bug to play overwatch recently this might be a good a good kicker because that I haven't played over watching a couple months I played like like two matches or something and had a lot of fun playing overwatch I wish there were more pictures here but yeah use your map its lunar colony and that's always exciting because overwatch they spend a lot of time with their maps designing them making sure that they're lots of replay value and that they're strategic and all that stuff you can battle in in Winston's dormitory yes so this is the lunar colony where Winston grew up the spaces inside include Winston's dormitory the telescope room for the animated short as well as little areas that clue players into the reasons that Winston left the colony and head to earth to head to earth I guess there's also a to checkpoint map so I think there's there might be multiple maps in this environment but that says it has low gravity areas so that could be a different gameplay elements that gets integrated as well cool but again just about a week June 20th until these go live so overwatch players be happy be happy for overwatch things sweet all right let's move on to them their fights third fight so we're just tired space off this is not face off alright so for certified we're going to discuss scrapyard worse 5 so for any of you guys who haven't been watching this season of scrapyard Wars it's a it's a show no it's a series of - tech tips and Cal and I participated in season 5 the teams were me and Kyle against Linus and Luke and just this past weekend's the fourth episode of season 5 which is the finale went up on the Linus tech tips YouTube channel and you know it's it's it's interesting it's interesting you read the comments on this video because you know they're not all I mean a lot of them are very positive of course a lot of people definitely enjoyed it but it seems to be some controversy this doesn't seem to be like a cut and dry kind of thing true let's just scroll down and and all cheating aside I just want J's two cents to be on the next rapper yeah that's what's really important here good J on here talking about our hard drives that failed that was definitely a big big big issue their finale is always the most hyped episode but it leaves you with an empty feeling after because you know there won't be another episode next week I feel the same way watching like the last episode of the season of Game of Thrones yep it's coming back soon though so obviously there was potential ner do well er E on both sides there's accusations of cheating going around some people with some suggestions about how the bench benchmarking went done I like I like that one linus cheats no problem someone else cheats no go oh but a lot of people pointing out just just a fundamental the fundamental point here that if you take the raw benchmarks of both systems we that Kyle and I technically came out on top yeah but obviously you know we're not we're not the ones to make the final call on that so of course this being that was sword fight this being sword fight we're going to take a little little debate to this and let you guys also I'm going to say we want it in I'm gonna say we won and why right here Kyle gets a good luck of being able to go first on this because I know the way you think Paul I know you've already devised a rebuttal in your head as you usually do you kind of anticipates that I'm going to take the easy way out because generally by this time of the show I'm already petered out so I'm gonna say we should have won because at the other day I'll admit both teams cheated Linus and Luke had their you know their Michael guy who was giving him free fans and all kinds of crazy assed deals and they were negotiating you know hardware deals long after the kid knew exactly who they were I mean he showed up wearing a Linus tech tips shirt Linus did in case you guys haven't seen it that yeah that actually happened I'm not joking and then they proceeded to negotiate deals which I feel like breaks the one of the biggest rules of the series and granted we had that fubar moment with the hard drive everything was in order we had our together but it was go time it was like we had three hours left to do all of our benchmarks and head over to J so that we could do the finale and our hard drive that we legitimately bought just wasn't working mostly mainly because the guy who bought it from yanked it out of the the toaster without without sort of you know stopping it correctly he just sort of yanked it out and while the platter was probably still spinning and that probably killed the drive and the drive that Linus and Luke had pawned off to us as sort of a you know tossing us a bone that didn't help either and so it was like yeah we grabbed an external drive and used that instead we grabbed it from your garage which technically is cheating but the alternative there is that we didn't grab a drive at all we had zero hard drive we gave up and we were just qualified without there ever being a sort of finale like that would have been the most underwhelming terrible ending to any scrap yard yet any scrap yard Wars yet so I felt like in the spirit for the in the spirit of the show and the series there needed to be some kind of finale but it should have been a close fight so I feel like us us grabbing that that hard drive was kind of in you know for that sort of reason I'm not honoring it saying like we didn't cheat I'm fully admitting that we did cheat the difference is is that our cheat was found out right then and there whereas Linus and Luke's cheat was found out long after the video the whole series had been shot edited and uploaded to the public I feel like that's the difference I remember when when that video first came up you saw it before I did and you you called me and you text me like did you see scrapyard Bors did you see the latest scrapyard war did you see that scene with Luke and Linus and that guy and I was like no don't tell me don't tell me they don't tell me they cheated and I watched it I was like holy that's that's the only difference that's really the only difference both teams cheated but we got found out on the spot while the cameras are rolling and they got found out long after it was already published so try to argue with that bitch you know you know Kyle I wanna I wanna I so want to agree with you you know I want to say you're right I want to say we won but ultimately you know it comes down to you know we have to be honest with ourselves we have to be honest with with the folks at home and you know we we didn't we didn't live up to the the rules that were established by the the rule makers of the game you know we had an agreement to go in beforehand and that's the one thing that I think wasn't made clear I think perhaps to everyone the actual specifics that we laid out at the very beginning for the system and the the actual storage drive configuration I don't think that was really specified and like here's the rules like like they said to 10% RGB bonus that you could get they didn't mention that we very specifically said it has to have a hard drive and it has to have an SSD and the operating system has to be on the SSD those those are the rules so we had to follow that and that's where obviously if you watch the show that's where we didn't like line up we had the SSD we had the operating system we had the whole system we didn't have the hard drive that was in there which needed to be there in order for us to have all of the games loaded quite a few people were like yet the SSD should have just loaded a game ran the benchmarks deleted the game loaded the other game ran the benchmarks we could have done that it would have taken more time we're already short on time but technically according to the way that we had agreed on everything at the beginning of the before everything started that's that's what it should have done that's I mean that's that's how it was supposed to go so you know Kalin I did our best but when it came down to we just we didn't have that hard drive in there and that's really the you know that was the make-or-break thing and you know you could go he could say Linus cheated you know you could say that but you could just easily say - didn't cheat I just said both of those things and the second thing I said based on what I need to argue is what I'm gonna say is the correct thing see yeah yeah that we're not you're not good cuz it dude I never get the dude's name but the guy at the shop that Linus and Luke went to they walked in and they were like he was like he was like hey like if I can get an autograph first or whatever like so obviously you recognize him but what he said after they went through and spent several hours there picking and choosing things out of piles of hardware that they should be able to buy he was like I would have done the same thing for anyone else and he said that yeah and then we should believe him that made me laugh we should believe him what if what if it just at one point he was one of at one point that guy was just like just sucking Linus's dick like straight up suck it in and like he's just like I would lose for anymore Carlin sitting there like lakitu power supply and diseases I goes over and it's just I do this for all my customers I'm series are like anyone I liked I just had we got a good vibe movies I just I predict it's just not a little special because you're you you can you get an opera that's just part of it I'm just saying you're totally right he would have done that for anyone who came into his shop he might up all right well obvious so we're gonna so we're gonna we're gonna reveal what you guys the viewers at home think right here in just a minute but I think we should also point out here that's uh where we're not going to take this line down yeah we're going to hack into I think the wine show on Friday I'm hacking in right there the hack in Kyle's already working on getting it back on get that started oh that leave a mess ain't the same as you should just oh you deleted it you should just post that that's my fiance entered uh no flag for spam what if I accidentally start hosting some of them it is easy none of that none of that I actually went through the chat what's the book I'm a bad hacker I can't even hack up so yeah we're gonna we're gonna hack into the win show on Friday we're gonna we're gonna argue this ourselves here and we're gonna lay this to rest you know obviously all right so who really won what are the results we won we won Kyle obviously we won that's official I am the least of the completely unbiased yep so he personally has set our stream yeah with with regular viewers of our show awesome well I feel vindicated I really do you know we should do is roll on there very closer we nearly lost to Jay yeah Jay Jay was something upon us somehow crept up there that just somehow yeah that goes a dickhole I would I would have think thought the viewers at home would with these but they're so selfless Anna you guys yeah all right so yeah obviously there's the this isn't the end of that discussion more more to be talked about in the future this isn't over the yeah it's not okay should be a long long running feud I think most likely yep so we're looking at almost eight so we should sushi yes it is so we're going to we're going to round out the show by reading off some of the questions that were donated so thank you oh we got to find where my half begins I owed a ninja fifty dollars I met your stream all the time because of my schedule this should make up for it do you have any recommendations for monitor arms mana price has some good ones oh yeah monoprice I've used what's the other one runs really popular the Ergo tech or go to freedom arm or yes the one I'm using for this monitor right here which is a great a great swing arm for that for a single monitor just lots of a range of movement and it's got a nice finish shot and everything so those are a couple I would recommend the ones that Wendel uses are really expensive but they're super nice but if it's for like a really heavy-duty net and monitor so and those are like enterprise like they're made for so those those might be a little bit overkill I apologize I don't I don't remember the name of them right now but it's a couple options for you Sebastian Casella for the fifth inch of AR whatever that is double Jenkins to the real winners of scrapyard wars thank you sir those fancy Canadians didn't see it coming love the show please never stop we completely agree this bastion and we thank you for your contribution to today's show it's an Argentine peso Argentine peso yes indeed why didn't I know that Leon Leon course of $10 you Kyle love you Paul winky face nothing well you know if you really want to hey Leon you know where to find me that just was nearly the same thing it's just with you it was more vigorous he's just playing hard to get thanks again Hector Martinez Delatour a tech dollar sir if it didn't create a conflict interest would you invest in AMD stock uh I don't he doesn't do the stock mark I don't lie don't really know how the stock market I just never take another time - yeah I just I'm not into the stock market thing so I've heard bad things about the stock market you know like in the past I like it being no I actually like how the stock market used to work well now it's all like computer-based something about something about 75% of all the transactions on the stock market being done by computer algorithms is what bothers me these days anyway we could we could really dive into that but I don't want I don't really want to as much so yeah yeah I probably wouldn't just because I don't do stocks in general so but thank you Hector for your donation crafty hack $5 yeah neglect is still abuse you should after party to make sure your get your gaming builds actually work we should just say Wow shots fired oh the rising build back there just to the windows updates oh well it's in good shape yes that's that's true we'll have to see about that crafty again see we'll see how I'm feeling after after sushi des Jones $5 should I stick with 1600 X build that I have a part list for or go balls to the wall and wait forth Red River that's a good question does because thread Ripper is tempting we still don't know a lot of things like what's the entry level CPU is going to cost and what the motherboards are going to cost I'm going to expect motherboards to start at probably 200 bucks maybe even 250 bucks plus that's just kind of how it goes for high-end desktop platforms so you're going to spend more on a motherboard and you don't know what the minimum price for CPU is going to be so if you're not feeling like your motherboard CPU combo you've got say 500 5 600 bucks to spend just on those two parts I'd say at minimum and that's just a guess then probably just go with your 1600 X build for right now also for what most people are doing we love the massive thread and core counts for threader print everything but for what most people are doing it is quite overkill and you can by with a lot less so true hopefully that helps you make your choices completely agree Jared Jared Allah's great work what you guys do is case to see if you have any recommendations for a tempered glass case that would easily support the a 240g water cooling kit by ek um tempered global Wow so many cases now that have tempered glass that are better really good chassis if you want something relatively inexpensive and just set up sort of a good all-around that's 340 tempered glass he has a XT it's a great choice for a case yeah should easily fit a 240 millimeter radiator kit be quiet pure be 600 is another one if you're on the more budget end of things the p400 eclipse from fantex is also a good option mmm yeah I think there's there's there's a bunch of good ones out there some good choices there yeah next time we've got a pity oats Cote for the 10 Canadian love your show building an r5 1600 PC and one overclock decently the CPU do I need the pricey flair x3 200 megahertz all featured or others are getting those speeds for less money 250 Canadian for 16 gigabytes you don't need the flare X I think it definitely matters like what kind of die on the actual RAM that you get some are more compatible than others but I think the BIOS is matured a lot more since the launch of Rison so you're starting to see much more compatibility offered with a wider range of memory kits I would do some research and just search for which which kids have been known to work and which ones haven't flare X if you just want that ultimate peace of mind because it is straight up validated and certified with Rison but I know like my G scale sticks my ripped I was five and my tread and Z kits have all worked just fine with a variety of different rising CPUs so yeah okay yeah so I mean the the corsair 3000 speed kit that will run at 29 33 and pretty much all day res and CPUs I have tested you can get that for a lot cheaper 3200 you're going to pay a little bit more of a premium for so maybe try to aim for that three thousand spot I still get a lot of the same performance um you know it's just a couple ticks behind what you would get there so yeah you definitely don't need to pay the premium for the high-end flacks stuff if you're pairing it with the 1600 lots of other options out there and hopefully we'll see more as validation continues and memory manufacturers come out with more kits that are specifically tailor-made for a rezoned yeah so next up we've got Josh for the $5.00 Paul here's some money since I didn't get exactly your story y'all keep up the amazing work you do keep us in the know and entertained we'll do our best thanks Josh marshmallow for 10 bucks I'm about to build a new workstation gaming PC and was wondering if I should wait for thread Ripper or go ahead and get a rise in seven 1,800 X and get X and X 399 and thread Ripper after it's been up for a while I think you vent or get X mana and Federer after again just just remember you're talking about a complete platform change going from risin 7 1,800 X up to thread Ripper and what is there so yeah it really depends on what you're doing with this with your computer and if you need all those cores and threads risin 7 1800 X is perfectly fine right now for the vast majority of what lots of people are doing if you're talking about a gaming PC or even a little bit more like gaming and streaming or video editing or that kind of thing and again remember that thread Ripper motherboards are probably going to also cost a premium of a good fifty to a hundred bucks plus over what you would pet pay for for an X 370 visits basically we're sort of parroting what we've always said about the mainstream versus the high-end desktop Intel platforms right going from like LGA 1151 to I'm sorry like Z 270 versus X X 99 this is basically the same sort of thing like X 99 is going to appeal to a much smaller group of enthusiasts who either just want the best of the best or really need that extra horsepower when it comes to productivity workstation applications video editing etc but for the vast majority of us just go with the mainstream because it's going to be just as good for what you need it for most likely and it's going to save you quite a bit of money too so it's the same thing here with AMD that we've been saying you know for for Intel the last few years indeed Stevens 1955 thank you very much X he just said that's because it's 1955 X like the cpu ah yes the thread refers to trigger per CPU thanks Steven it's an awesome awesome oolong I've nothing automatic Mac thanks for the $5 vation having it Nate and sorry for being late you were forgiven you are totally forgiven cashy's said cash she said five dollars I have a 1070 1050 Ti in my rig Oh seed my 1070 how do i OC the slave GPU 1050 Ti what uh I'm assuming using the 1050 I for something like physics or yeah hello see it you did just didn't any what at whatever yes software in my experience if you're talking about afterburner or like precision X you simply have to select the different GPU from the drop-down menu yeah and and then you can adjust the different parameters for that make sure you don't have the sync option built-in there but I can't say that I have exactly tried your situation with a secondary card setup for physics or something like that so yeah yeah that's an interesting situation though yeah I would say maybe try other overclocking software if whatever you're using isn't isn't functioning for you afterburner and precision X or good options for Nvidia cards Johnny Fong thank you for your five dollar donation I was at e3 today an alienware had a thread Ripper system with the Vega GPU pre-orders for the system was July 27th could be on Vega is released that would make sense I would actually expect Vega before then I'm hoping for Vega by the end of this month but who knows there's been a lot of sort of back-and-forth with that but yeah launching the boat at the same time would make a lot of sense I mean they kind of double hype with with the launch and the CPU and a GPU at the same time that'd be cool but it is nice to know that they have working systems and demo systems going on at places like e3 Thank You Johnny Levi Webb thank you for your $5 donation $5 a I don't know what the a is Australians you know it'd be a yeah he says you guys are always the winners but Linus cheated honest Luke even looked guilty look what does the I'm gonna corner Luke next time we see Luke in person at a corner Han I'm gonna ask him straight up cuz Luke coordinated now Luke won't lie to me about my looks Luke in the eyes he won't lie no you could tell how guilty he looked after that scene with with Michael after they got all that free yeah all that you could just tell like Luke just had this like low self-esteem about him he just like was hanging his head low just like we did about there well you could just tell he was like kind of like Eeyore yeah you know super kind of depressed enlightening guilty conscience Fisher wants to win straight up yeah Sebastian Casella another really this is Argentinian pesos or every teen pesos maybe Argentine peso yes 20 argentine pesos lightest also cheated when he got a vga of the vga with the note in it and said i hope you guys win or whatever multiple times technically he didn't though because the rules were if you arranged if you coordinated the sale before hands the price and you said alright we're going to come right now we're going to buy this for this amount of dollars and you did that even though if they recognize you on the spot it was supposed to be okay you could argue that in that situation he was cheating because the guy must have known before but the guy didn't tell them before and we're really in a situation where if someone does that there's only so much we can do like we try to talk to them negotiate do whatever we can to set the price up if they're just holding back in there like I kind of know but I don't want to say anything like that's kind of one of those gray area situations where we like we've done all we can to do what what what we would think you know to abide by the rules in our situation you know is it possible that he only made that sale for that amount of dollars because he actually knew that it was Linus or yeah do you like I feel like anyone who's ever watched Linus in their life will know immediately how long he calls in taxes on them yeah like one especially his like sobs his sob stories like the sob story stuffy guys friend broke his arm and we're all trying to pitch in to buy him a PC we're on a really tight budget he has some he has a very distinct voice and he like everyone knew he has a single psychological some psychological sales tech maybe the janitor uses which I've seen him use many times but Thank You Sebastian all right and again there's still that's what I feel like if Mickey Mouse called you hey Paul what's your favorite oh this is not on his collar I was just calling to take a poll to see what's your favorite Oh Museum hey you're on there's our partners stop hey your Mickey Mouse voice freaks me out uh you'd be like Disneyland probably wouldn't this I'm probably go through it that sale could yep you freaked out but no that's why this is such an enjoyable season because there's still so much debate to happen after the fact all right Ulysses Lyra thank you for your $5 donation hey just want to say thanks you guys really helped me get into PC building my first PC especially Paul's horizon OSI builds awesome those are great those are recent so that means your recent gutting and get gotten but thank you thank you for using Brian $20 donation Kyle and Paul POTUS would you co-presidents or would one of you take the vice presidential position I don't know can you I don't know if you can make that call after the fact I feel like you have to establish that beforehand while you're running but I don't know would you want to be President oh it doesn't matter I'd probably get impeached for doing something stupid anyway all right so I'll be president and Cal can be vice president no I'll just be I'll be the janitor helping Jenna Kyle doesn't even want any authority be the White House dinner do that I'll be the eyes and ears I'm kind of on the second and the same mind as you I don't want to be in a residential position right now but sounds scary it's 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