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then we've got more more different beers on the way actually I feel like yeah it's me - I'll be ready for that soon you're saying once Paul finishes his beer he stops drinking like a once the slower one of us like it's done finishing their stupid bee that sounds like a chat a challenge on trial yeah it is Paul who drink this beer accept it accept the challenge ha little did you know I poisoned it you only have 30 seconds to live say your last words now is this for the ritual that happens every year yes the summer solstice yes the summer solstice which just so happens to coincide with the 109th episode of awesome hardware God every on every 109th episode this will bring about the coming of the there must be a sacrifice of the revolution of the PCI Express Lanes I don't know I'm dying I'm trying to tie things in with the show that's the idea all right first first it's all come full circle yeah put that statement all right a tech of the day after tomorrow this is all technology that's not available yet but will be available soon I feel like our first contestants which is AMD Vega should be available by now what it's not it keeps seemingly being delayed but we're still expecting it by the end of this month or maybe the beginning of next month or maybe a little bit later than that but according to this rumor what's your rate originated on Hardware battle comm which is a Chinese website that they might be available from these are the actual consumer GPUs by the way by late July or early August so not quite the first half that we were originally promised from AMD but a lot to let that slide according to the article the reason for this is due to the difficulty with manufacturing HBM 2 which is the memory that Vega uses that seems like a reasonable explanation but if this is true what they say and be actually shipping boards to add in board partners so that the third-party manufacturers who make the actual GPU graphics cards that aimed for the GPUs that AM D Radeon makes em there's to Vega GPUs the venket NXT that's 64 compute units 4096 stream processors and 16 gigs of HP m2 memory then there's the Vega 10 Pro which is cut down a little bit 56 compute units 3584 stream processors 8 gigs of HBM 2 so half the HBM so do we know yet if Vega 10 XT is is the one that's going to compete with like the 1080i or the GTX 10 that's all that's all rumor and speculation at this point what the hell's going on alright stupid alarm to Christmas I hear bells ringing um it's all rumor and speculation at this point there's been big stuff that's popped out here and there good stuff Vega ass you just keep it up you dug it slip anything past you can i nope that was completely unintentional but yeah there's there's there's like the speculation has been that it's it's between a 1070 and attend a area like between a 1070 and a 1080 or between a 1018 and 1080 Ti but time has been like passing you know and and it kind of sucks it it's not out yet yeah so if HP m2 really is the issue here then I'm hopefully they'll be able to produce enough and of course the the the enterprise variants that are made for GPU compute stuff those just launched but they are very expensive they're $1200 and up and those are featuring HP m2 right yeah those are but those are based on the same GPUs the same architecture they're just designed for for use in the workstation which means they're useless to us yeah I mean in the past that's typically how that works with workstation cards they don't really function very much for actually playing video games in a gaming system the article also said that non-reference designs will be allowed shortly after launch so hopefully that's at least something that we can look forward to if there is a delay and they're originally intended launch then maybe that does give the third party at it third partner adding board manufacturers time to design specialty GPU designs custom PCB solutions although won't matter they don't matter they're only like 20 units available worldwide yes as of shitty HBM 2 yields yeah or because of a theory of mining actually I don't think I read I don't think either of us have this on our list today we talked about this a little bit last week but um hell we'll do a brief segue into that aetherium mining cryptocurrency mining in theory M is the big one right now but there's a couple others that have also been kind of going off recently these are the ones that are kind of ASIC proof like the Asics that have been designed that kind of took the wind out of the sails for mining for Bitcoin with something like a GPU these other crypto currencies you can't use those ASIC solutions to mined them so it's gone back to GPUs being useful AMD cards are sold out everywhere like you basically you can't find them or they're marked up a hundred bucks or more Nvidia cards are now also starting to be sold out everywhere and there was an article I think it was a tech powerup article or a piece or a PC gamer article earlier today saying that basically like right now if you look for a gtx 1070 which is supposed to be about 380 bucks retail can't find anything for less than about $450 yeah it's crazy what's no one should buy it forward because apparently this hasn't quite crept up to hitting the ten eighties yet they can still get a 10 84 500 to 550 but anything in that range or lower is just sold out a ridiculously overpriced so so why doesn't why haven't the prices for GTX 1080s gone up it's just that it's more efficient to buy the the to get more of the lesser cards and wire them all up together so the 1080 is apparently haven't been hit and you know the Nvidia mining isn't as efficient as the AMD mining as it has been on AMD GPUs as well which is why it took some time but apparently it is still profitable enough there's such a bubble right now with the value of this currency that it's affecting Nvidia cards as well so the theorem is just is that just like a Bitcoin alternative it's just a different cryptocurrency yes and there's there's some technical background to it that I don't know enough about to speak on but is it worth more than Bitcoin right now no I think last I saw was like 400 just look you theory impress right now just google it we can put we can find it out but it really sucks for anyone who wants to buy build a gaming PC like literally is it is impossible to build a budget gaming PC right now because the prices of the GPUs are so ridiculously inflated 391 351 ok so I think that my ex that goes 400 bucks last week but it goes up and down oh yeah so it did it did peak at about 400 and it's dipped a bit because I think this has gained so much popularity there's a ton of people actually doing the mining right now but anyway brief segue there it really sucks if you're looking for a GPU right now especially if you're looking for anything that cost less than $500 and brutal yeah I took an uber into downtown LA not too long ago in our uber driver who's super nice handed me like a card at the end of it he's like hey if you want to ever want to get involved because I was telling it on like sort of into tech and whatnot and he was a part of like a Bitcoin mining group ah I got like a global worldwide search for mining group and he handed me his card and I was like whoa well I didn't even well thank you I might look into this cuz uh I definitely know I can't afford the electric bill at home but if I was part of a group who would do it all for me I honestly don't know how it works like as far as like if you're a part of a big big group like who does the mining it I think I don't know I don't know how it works there as far as what effort is put in or you know because I mean it's pretty easy to quantify how much work has been put in by like your bank of computers that you have mining or something like that yeah I'm not sure how it works with the groups or that kind of thing I wish I had solar I don't have solar right now I've been looking into solar options if I had solar right now I would be mining at home absolutely yeah because I have I have a couple five 80s I have one or two five 70s I mean I've better things get cards yeah I have quite a few graphics cards at home but like in California it's basically like the money I made from mining would pay for my electrical bill and it would even out and I'd just be wasting collection if what if we what if we mined at your house and I contributed like half of your electric bill and we split the profits it doesn't matter the more the more GPUs we mined with the more the electricity will bill will go up and eventually we'll also hit it there's got to be a way Paul it has got to be a way to make this work I can't do YouTube forever eventually we'll also hit a cutoff where like my just the the power like my main my main electrical box won't have enough like won't be able to feed Edison will be over every other ways running out of it yeah how are you doing over here ah your box we're switching to Elspeth speed waves out right now by the way which is an absolutely amazing stouts one of my favorite beers of all time it's a little bit seconded out but it's worth it it's 12% so I like those drips this is like for Bud Lights right here um and it's a fantastic beer that I just recently discovered that it comes in pints before the only other size i've team didn't is like a big ass like the wood i drank on teaching my wife to how to build the pc while drunk yeah I drank one whole bottle of those and it was like a fifth now this is awesome that was the only capacity I ever founded it comes in Heights it comes in pints I just I'm getting one super-dangerous okay cheers Cheers I like how we're drinking out of each other's glasses yeah it must be nice to be able to pull your entire your entire beer yep hey hey you what you guy your new ones are bigger yeah you're right they are bigger bigger than yours no the same size we should compare we can do we can criticize her glasses side by side all right next up Volta since we talked a little bit about AMD having issues getting Vega onto the market due to HP m2 yields NVIDIA has actually had high-end graphics cards available for the past I don't know I want to say cycle I'll leave it at that vague term and this article from Guru of 3d suggests that is because NVIDIA has not put set their sights on HBM to which AMD kind of has they've said ever since Fiji like our hand cards have HBM memory which you know is cool and everything but also if you go for the past you know year or so AMD has had no answer to it to Nvidia when it comes to their high-end GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti graphics cards they just don't really compete up in that area so when it comes to the next generation for NVIDIA those are going to be based on GPU architecture codenamed Volta and it's supposedly again this is a rumor this is future news that they're going to have a gddr5 X option for that in fact according to this article most of the GPUs in this lineup will be based on either either gddr5 X or GD d r 6 this articles from guru 3d but the source is from Fudd's illa based on what they call well-informed sources which is you know most legit we trust them we totally trust them there's a small chart here which I'll try to make wait where did it go what if it won't let me do oh it's just what if by well before me sources they're talking about WCC of tech I don't know the chart is convinced I hope not the chart is comparing gddr5 5x the GVR 6 so it doesn't matter that much anyway Nvidia we'll be using HP m2 with the GV 100 GPU which according to their code names would be GeForce Volta 100 which is usually the largest ship when it comes to what's available but that's probably just like this generation with Pascal going to be limited to their highest end cards in the enterprise range with their tests list I mean with their time not Tesla Quadro they're Quadros oh so yeah there's that GD r6 is coming in 2018 though so that should be the new hotness hopefully another option as well compared to HBM since it seems like it's really hard to produce HBM to memory that just just seems to be the situation right now okay let's talk about epic let's have an epic discussion about epic so many puns his article from PC perspective there's several good articles out there I was also following along a little bit earlier today with the non tech as a doctor cut hrus doing a bit of live blogging of this events but AMD is having an event for epic it's went on today and there was a presentation and this is server stuff so perhaps not quite as interesting to you if you were more of a PC enthusiast in the at-home space however this has sort of echoes that reverberate and effect thread Ripper because thread Ripper is kind of based on the same stuff that this is all based on so AMD is trying to get back into the server space they basically aren't there at all over the past six years their share there has deteriorated deteriorated they used to have like a 20 percent 20 to 25 percent share in the server space back when they had their Opteron lineup for for servers but yeah you guys all probably know the story over the past six seven years for AMD but they're back now what their Zen architecture they've implemented it on the desktop side with Rison now they're implementing it with a server side solution this is code is called epic they're actually going for sale today and Amy had a bunch of representatives from a bunch of high ends like well-known companies that were there at the event with them that do enterprise stuff like I remember any of them though it's that means they're not important I'm just I'm basically having a brain fart right now I was gonna I was gonna rattle off a couple live who's there you all know had examples I hear you know who you are Visual Studio VMware KB Citrix these are operating systems what I'm talkin about industry step 2 super micros these are these are hardware partners never mind who cares let's just talk about the hardware I'll stick to that I don't have a slide for that epic 7,000 epic I like how much fun they're having with their branding right the red ripper epic through they're getting yeah they're having uh they're having a good time I think you got it you got a sell it right you guys diversify sit up it's a processor alright so epic is going to have up to 32 cores and 64 threads per CPU and this is a server platform which means you can have either one or two sockets and there's different configurations for that which I'll go into in just a moment eight ddr4 memory channels up to eight ddr4 memory channels each individual CPUs quad channel up to two terabytes of memory capacity per CPU which means four terabytes and in two months slots configurations and 128 freakin PCI Express Lanes under that KB like X 28 take that Xeon I mean this is the xeon competitor remember that i know so uh one I mean KB like x2 sure why not but but yeah so here's here's the chart I'm gonna open this cuz what's the max you can get on Xeon right now half core core counts 22 or 24 or PCIe lanes PC a lens I'm not sure but and I think it might be 64 so here's the entire product stack and you can see there's on the left it goes from the the lowest end on the bottom which is an 8 core 16 thread part all the way up to the epic 75 hundred and seventy 600 series at the top which are 32 32 cores 64 thread hmm look at that the top-end chip to 70601 it boosts up to 3.2 gigahertz on 32 cores I don't know how many cores it'll do that on same time it has a hundred and eighty watt TDP which is I don't know that's insane so you need a liquid-cooled server build for epic I'm saying 180 watts for that many cores is very very low oh and you would I mean I'm sure they'll be crazy people who do liquid-cooled servers or something like that with this sort of thing but usually an enterprise space liquid cooling is the last thing you would ever wanted to right especially since even these are all locked right they're not gonna yeah these are there's no overclocking or anything like that these are these are server chips there's immediately available immediate availability I should say for the top five CPUs in the stacks of the 32 core and the 24 threat core ones and then there will be a upcoming it says by the end of July do before the end of July for these lower ones so if you notice the lower ones here the eight core and sixteen core ones and 16 cores and 32 threads is what dread Ripper is supposed to have mm-hmm but this is supposed to be available at the end of July epic epic is there not the rest of these the top ones here are already available again probably not exactly going to be launched at the same time since their server parts and consumer parts but again thread Ripper is probably is basically derived from this now just to go over real quickly some of the more and specifics for how they've configured stuff in here because how do you get from eight cores like we have with a risin 1800 X or something like that up to 32 cores these are actually multi die CPUs so let me go to the next age dual die yeah so so each CPU as you can see on this in this picture here has for actual dyes on it so each of these dives would be roughly equivalent not the same exact thing but a rough equivalent to an eight-core 16 thread rise and die so 8 16 24 32 and I'm doing it I'm doing addition here so all them together on a fully enabled chip that's what you get and then they have different layers of Infinity fabrics because they're using the term infinity fabric to refer to not just link between the different CCX units within each each die but also the link between each CP each die on the CPU on something like a multi thread ripper or epic CPU and that's how they connect together and the Infinity fabric links between the cores offer 42 gigabytes per second of buy Direction aband width at extremely low low power ryan Shrout who wrote the article on this on pc perspective and there's a lot more detail on the article which is linked in the description if you guys want to check it out one of his big concerns about this platform is latency and latency between the different quarters but they've developed us in such a way that there's either only a single step or present as many as two steps and a two CPU configuration between going from one core to the other so each epoch CPU I'm using the wrong mouse each epoch CPU and also not on their own story ah ok get with it each epic CPU has eight PCI Express by sixteen links so 8 times 16 that's what gives you 128 total lanes of PCI Express bandwidth but it's interesting how they're configured now when I say there's multiple dies per package I don't have an image up here so you can see so when you say there's multiple dies per package they need to be able to communicate with each other when they're put in a two CPU configuration so each die has two of the PCI Express by 16 links so basically 32 PCIe lanes per die with splitter the two with 8/8 each so that's why when you have a single one of these CPUs four of these dies each with each with 16 get the words out damn it it's quite confused so I wrote this all down each with H PCIe by 16 lengths that links splits to per die gives you hundred twenty eight I'm really doing a poor job of explaining this that's okay if I had it with that right so 1 2 3 4 2 4 6 and 8 8 times 16 gives you hundred 28 right so you'd think if you put two of these CPUs together you should have 128 plus 128 you should have 256 PCI Express 3.0 lanes and that's not how it works but it's kind of cool how it works because when you plug in 2 to the same one since each die has 2 by 8 PCI Express connections one of those by 8 PCI Express connections connects directly to the other chip hmm so that's why when you put two of these together you still have 128 PCI Express 3.0 lanes I see I hope that makes sense to you guys I've kind of figured out reading the article again read the article if it doesn't make sense wrench Ryan does a better job of explaining tonita what than I do but again that's not necessarily that they pull their PC aliens but one chip one die shares its lanes or bridges its lanes to it to another all four dies all four dies yeah because each die has has 2 by 8 connections yeah no HD each guy has 2 by 16 connections 16 is 2 by 16 okay yes 32 times 4 okay so yeah 8 total per CPU yeah two per die right and each one of those has 16 PGA lanes right so when you connect two of them together for each die one of them is still available as a connection for your 16 PCIe lanes one of them directly connects to the other CPU and that's how they talk back and forth and because view becomes the infinity fabric link between them I see which incidentally has 32 gigabytes per second of bandwidth means you get the total of 256 gigabytes per second of bandwidth a pcie 3.0 bandwidth per socket that sounds like a lot yeah it's it's a flood let's lots of connectivity so um again you know no one I think here is trying to say an AMD wasn't trying to say anything that they suddenly have in instructions per clock lead over Intel but according to the pricing that they're talking about with this stuff they're pretty much decimating the Xeon lineups that the intel has going on right now when it comes to price to theoretical performance again that's theoretical because these are launching today and I'm sure there'll be more tests on it and everything however again the article has some of the benchmarks they were showing which we're all pretty impressive especially if you follow enterprise stuff which I do only vaguely which is why I'm not going into more detail here um there it is check it out epic seems pretty badass hopefully Ripper is going to launch right around the same time then yeah right yeah so um cool to hear more stuff about epic again because it trickles down to thread Ripper and it's also cool to see AMD coming back into it with another potential way to claw their way back into a market that they haven't been a part of for quite some time because that helps them as a company as a whole and theoretically then that might help them continue to be a good competitor to Intel cuz see what that's has done just in the past six months if not the past one month I guess yeah alright let's move on to the next segment next segment is going to be tales from space Tarot's from space as myspace music intro that is good like though we get a soundboard or or haunted house sound is it always kind of synonymous yeah and go either way oh that works at NASA right they they do space stuff they have found 10 new rocky earth-like planets whoa rocky um rocky rocky meaning they're like rocky road but kind of difficult yes difficult to navigate uh come sketchy yeah I was singing rocky like Rocky Balboa for some reason that makes less I'm gonna play this video I've no idea what this Valda named Rock usual yeah we named it we named the first planet rocky one is and I mean named the second planet rocky to the fifth planet was destroyed by the Russians for some reason and yeah goddamn her okay we don't we don't need to show this they discovered planets there's quite a few of them actually 219 suspected planets because that's what the Kepler space telescope telescope does it looks and finds suspect potential exoplanets planets outside of our solar system and then scientists are able to go and focus other telescopes on those and actually verify and discover whether or not they're actually there of the 219 new suspected planets there's ten that they say are rocky and in the Goldilocks zone Goldilocks zone being the space from whatever particular star you're talking about where it's not too hot and it's not too cold it's just right just right so that liquid water can form and then that distance varies depending on the the size and and heat output of the star what are they done by rocky when they say rocky is that snarky rocky means like it's not a gas plant cuz like you know we got we got our Jupiter you know and our Saturn out there out there sucking up asteroids keeping them from from coming in here and destroying those those would be you know there's lots of those out in the universe but are in the galaxy even but we can't exactly land on them and then build a colony or something like that so rocky meaning there's a much higher chance that there's there's land there potentially an atmosphere eyesential e-even liquid water potentially life yes exactly if you're honoring the total number of suspected exoplanets that's found by Kepler so far is now over four thousand four thousand thirty four total suspected exoplanets and two thousand three hundred thirty five of those have been verified five thousand short is that if five thousand short of being over nine thousand yep getting there in their next step NetSuite about this earlier this week I see the word probe probe - NASA wads to probe Uranus in search and search of gas got a lot of retweets on this one for some reason can't figure out why the article starts NASA is currently spitballing submissions that will give them that will give us the best look at Uranus that we've ever gotten pretty exciting I'll hold you to that yeah these are theoretical missions that they're being discussed these are NASA spacecraft that would be sent not just to Uranus but also to Neptune so you thought I was going to continue with the puns but I'm actually talking about space okay the missions would go there to determine what the planets are made of or determine more specifically we have a vague idea based on no spectrometry and stuff flights but that's not - I'm not I'm not going to trauma tree and that sounds like a fancy word thing where you look at the colors and you can see the colors and tell what's there I'm not good at science rainbow the the visit the light color blue I can't even I can't even go into this right now because I need to look at it and I don't I hate talking about things that I don't have like full grasp of so let's move on okay this would include both flybys as well as an orbiter so the orbiter would be sent in the orbiter would send an atmospheric probe to Uranus to sample its gases and detect elements sounds invasive so yes the probe Uranus and we would all benefit it's really wet come to dinner anus being probe the timeline for the Uranus trip just so you guys can be prepared is 2030 through 2036 hopefully they'll narrow that down at some points the Neptune mission that's discussed would need to take place before 2030 or after 2040 so it's either like we're going to see it when we're in our prime like right now like we will continue to be four clearly quite a few years or after 2040 will be old decrepit but hopefully by then there'll be some sort of technology that makes us young what about as far as timeline like how long will the probe be in Uranus will the probe I mean I'm sure it depends on how easily the gas attainable the gases yeah but I imagine there is a time limit there there's only so much time that can be spent in Uranus Azir is it possible to make Uranus expel gas more quickly or I'm kind of subject to just I mean I'm I'm sure that'd be possible but as scientists I feel like that's something that they'd want to avoid you know they want Uranus to be explored naturally and comfortably without any messing about let's say you don't want that kind of thing going on with Uranus that's true what if your anus has diarrhea you should stop you should really stop just what if clarify what happens if a little bit more than gas comes out while we're probing Uranus well it's missing a possible that mysterious that Uranus might shoot out a little bit more than just gas and we might all be in way in over our heads that's totally possible okay you know that's the nature of space well as we know the risks involved should always be aware of that yeah okay here's this one I'm going to try to burn through quickly because there's lots of notes and it's a little crazy oh by the way I need to finish that Neptune mission I was talking about the reason it needs to be before 2030 or after 2040 is due to the timing of the gravity assisted boost that they would need to get around to Jupiter which we've all seen in the movies it's like you're glad dude gravity slingshot and then but it's very beautiful not constant how it usually is and all right as Gardea the world's first space nation do you want to become a citizen Kyle in where should a citizen as Gardea I'll pick my mates I support any place that that guards my ass that's a good idea we're continuing the puns oh yeah for that last story as Gardea is named after a Norse myth Norse mythological city in the skies it is basically a space nation that is open for to be joined by all the residents of Earth it costs nothing to join so let's scroll down to this dude right here cost nothing to join this is Russian scientists dr. Igor Asher Bailey Asher Asher Bailey Asher Bailey dr. yes he originally announced these plans to form the world's first independent nation in space in October of 2016 they were deluged with people signing up they had a hundred thousand people in 40 hours they had five hundred thousand three weeks and then they were like hey we should add some like actual verification that these are actually people then they did that now it's a 211,000 decision it's a space nation right it's and yes it's face nations like the movie Elysium is Matt Damon where there's just a big ass like ship floating in space it's a whole civilization that lives in space earth is all and we screwed it up and yeah those are the ramifications where you get in discussion exercising here but first let's clarify some of the details of Asgardian because I'm sure there's lots of people who are watching who might want to join and like I said anyone can join and it's free so if you want to get into space this is probably something associated with that ah all right their mission is to base it is to provide a peaceful society to offer easier access to space technology to protect Earth from space threats and to end to protect Earth from space threats such as asteroids and man-made debris how does it okay go ahead why are you cutting me off I thought you're at a stopping point took my to do that one more time my window Eve and I'm going to go live in as Gardea in space okay so for what I asked you all right I may have second thoughts about that though because so far the signups are 83% male and 16% female oh that doesn't add up to 100 the rest said other Asgardian axis will establish a physical presence in space so it's not just a pipe dream via a series of satellites the first of which the Asgardian one will be launched into orbit around Earth on September 12th 2017 this is that this is actually actually going to happen it's going to travel via orbital ATK's mission to the International Space Station and will be released from American aerospace or from the aerospace firms ship once it docks with the International Space Station this is an not a full-sized satellite it's a nano set nano satellites it's about the size of a loaf of bread it weighs six pounds holds 300 kilobytes of data per person so the first hundred thousand people who signed up for to be citizens of as Gardea are able to upload their data they basically have 300 kilobytes of data per person and they can put stuff like pictures and that kind of thing so short term I guess idea here is now you have something in space and if you know the world it has thermonuclear war or something at least your pictures are still in space so you can still access them on Pinterest or whatever I don't think it's internet accessible but 300 kilobytes of data per person for the first hundred thousand citizens 202 kilobytes for the next 400,000 people and then 100 kilobytes for the next people leading up to a million citizens I don't know if they're still going to have citizens after a million but theoretically again they're going to be launching more these satellites family photos whatever personal stuff is what you can do there now what they're playing I do love doing long-term is actually making habitable oh that's I think that's the nano satellite right thing they're planning on actually making habitable platforms in and in near-earth low-earth orbit yes I don't know if this is one of them maybe it is and more pictures up here of space platforms sure sure there is let's we'll stick with this one anyway they're going to establish I'm sorry they're they're going to create habitable platforms in low-earth orbit that's the first hundred to 200 miles or 161 to 300 110 kilometers from space that's where the ISS is located right now so they have plans to actually start making platforms so people can actually move up to space is the general idea here this Russian dude Asher Bailey is a 53 year old rockin set rocket scientist he's supposedly a billionaire although because of what he has done through his dealings and Russia it's not exactly evident like I don't think it's a it's known how much money he has or whatever but it says he's single-handedly bankrolling this project which was which is kind of crazy um so yeah I just I guess I just thought you guys should know about this when it comes to tales from space they want to become a legitimate country they're going to apply for UN recognition as a nation in 2018 the state has to have a permanent population a defined territory a government I think and the capacity enter in relations with other states so I think it actually does have to have you know they're going to need to get some of their platforms up and running but yeah that's pretty crazy then we'll form a democratic government in the next six months in the court Prosecutor's Office National Audit Office and other government bodies they might have dual citizenship options anyway again the articles linked in the description if you guys want to read a little bit more on that let's move on though sweet tag for sorry fight all right what are we arguing okay a brief discussion about X 299 since it just launched and let's let's check out this article from exes which is that motherboard manufacturers would like you to buy their motherboards and therefore they have tantalizing offers for you oh yes tantalizing offers super tantalizing so for instance asus and this promo is for the EU by the way since we do have an international audience well exes is actually you know your UK yeah UK or whatever but anyway asus promotion in the EU you get a game you get two games what do you get say that uh a range of triple-a titles your choice down there it's a big list yeah there's one that you get like by default though Oh that'd a to do aims planet oh you get Donna for three Donna for so you get Donna for three and then you get to choose one of these triple-a titles shadow for vampire total war Warhammer to Assassin's Creed origins Far Cry 5 group for elects agent of mayhem Kingdom Come deliverance pray the surge project Curtis us-led edition a standard edition what an unfortunate acronym yeah sexual sexually transmitted diseases Morrowind Tekken 7 or spell for three so by an Asus board get couple free games MSI a new I have an offer this is for the US side if you get an MSI motherboard you get a Corsair hydro series h75 liquid cooler for free that's a $75 value heyo gigabyte has the experience pack cuz everything's x-rated at gigabytes that's their new code sexy new the experience pack is a bundle that you get with the Auris motherboards that are for sale qualifying bother buyers will receive a Norris hoodie a one-year subscription to xsplit gamecaster LEDs from cable mod a limited launch edition keyboard mouse pad and a pair of sennheiser CX 3.0 0 ear headphones the accessories are chosen to highlight the motherboards features so what we're going to ask people in chat answer we're gonna argue about here this is a little bit different than a typical I feel like a typical sword fight here because there's multiple options so what what would get you guys so if you guys have been skeptical about X 299 which of these things is the thing where you're like hey I wasn't into it before but now I am we have the three options from the three motherboard manufacturers that we just discussed we have this option down here which is that you know I was getting it no matter what doesn't matter or for those haters out there that I want that I will never touch your do it this is no that's no basically at the bottom yeah I'm never gonna do that so what do you think how what should these these do you think you can do well can I would go with the obvious choice Paul which is I would only build an X to 99 system if I also get a hoodie and xsplit broadcaster subscription LEDs and mouse pad and some headphones I see because that is the that's the whole complete package alright that's that's definitely a nice value add there all right so expert subscription we're using exploit me that's true to host this stream that's true hey I had to pay money for those in broadcaster the subscriptions for gamecaster that's okay they'll go on but hey you know what I ice-cream game sometimes once in a while you do too every now and then maybe maybe we'll bring maybe maybe this will be what brings back the after parties Paul is gettin is getting in xsplit gamecaster subscription citing the guilt trip for that or free yeah absolutely and then what are you gonna do just listen to the speakers listen to the game audio through your speakers now you're gonna need some nice earbuds you know some quality some quality earbuds to take advantage of a beautiful in-game sound there's thunder gaming there's an X to 90 they are Sennheiser's they're fairly high quality i I use Sennheiser microphones I'm using one right now it's the letter R stream okay it's got its racked up some some street cred in my book alright so there there's another good thing and then what LEDs yeah who doesn't want LEDs I mean you've already got and the cable modular cable mod LEDs they money they've sponsored you in the past clearly they're providing an abundant even if they hadn't sponsored me I'd still recommend him because I mean any LEDs really cuz I mean you've got just a ton of LEDs on the motherboard already what are you just gonna not light up the rest of your case that's how balance is I got a x300 what there's a typo in there I thought it was CX 3.00 but it's just CX 300 for the headphones oh yeah they're $40.00 headphones by the way okay but see like sennheiser $40 headphone and you're not allowed to research things while I'm arguing that's oh my god that's just a rule if there's a rule that ring faxon's decision we made just now so uh the $40 Sennheiser headphones are like $500 you know Skullcandy headphones anywhere else so um and then what was the other thing a hoodie right I I don't know about you Paul but when I game I like to keep it pretty chilly in my room you know it's better for thermal you know keep those keep the ambient low keep the overclocked sighs what I always say anyone who knows me tell you Kyle says that every time I see him since catchphrase face so obviously I want to be comfortable on gaming I need a frickin hoodie what better way to wear a hoodie that is also free advertising for the motherboard I happen to hurt senator yes always remember guys so uh I think I I think I knocked that argument out of the park let's see you try that's great that's great all right I should briefly consider what I'm gonna argue here all right I'm gonna go for the Corsair hydro series the age 75 because I will spend I don't exactly phrase it like this but I think the option here should be the Corsair Hydra series age 75 why because it is a practical solution it is something that will you will need because you I mean you're buying an X series CPU from Intel these don't come with water coolers these don't come with any kind of cooler they need a cooler so obviously you're gonna need a motherboard so you're buying the motherboard and then you just get the cooler for free it's a $75 value it's way more than the crappy headphones that Kyle was talking about just a second ago and you know all that other stuff that you might get with the with that gigabyte deal and I'm sure it's I'm sure it's like passable quality but it doesn't add up this is $75 that and the quality of the Corsair Hydra Series components all either the age 75 I mean if you're gonna we've already heard the 7900 X tends to run a little warm you're gonna want to liquid cool that bad boy so I think that's what you're gonna want to do I would argue further but I think I made my point and we're low on time so let's see what you guys have to say results Wow damn people he's staggering is just destruction but hey you did you did win though apart from the people who are just completely interested in X 299 30% hey that's 50 people that's fit that's 50 motherboard sales right there all night we just made for gigabyte 22 motherboard sales we just made for Messiah I'm deaf obviously assuming everyone who voted is gonna immediately go and make a purchase we did have we did have the lead at least some people representing and just being like you know what I was gonna jump into this no matter what there are the longtime uh Intel high-end desktop platform enthusiasts out there who we're into it I mean hey if you got the money the high-end CPUs are really fast yeah and until we can test thread Ripper it's the best we got those yeah the best we got for now so um there we go all right let's move into news tech news discussion again we got some stories here we're going to discuss but we'll try to run through quickly I'm going to start off with a quick reminder an update on net neutrality which is currently in peril in the United States I'm trying to at least give you guys a quick reminder of this every day right now the FCC has an open forum where you can go and you can make comments who knows what they're going to listen to those comments maybe like Norris but Netflix for their part we thought Netflix had abandoned us the CEO of Netflix basically said you know for everything we've done for net for net neutrality and and being a proponent for it and everything and being sort of that the test case for it because Netflix being throttled was one of the very specific things you could point out and be like hey and that's Internet service providers are are missed are miss handling their responsibilities as Internet service providers and they're throttling stuff simply because they don't want to provide the bandwidth that people have paid for which is something stupid the Internet service providers do Netflix CEO basically was like you know what at this point we're big enough we can just buy our way out of it so we don't care quite as much as net about net neutrality anymore which which kind of sucked people were disappointed but they they did jump in recently and at least tweeted and said they will never outgrow the fight for net neutrality and they tweeted out something for battle for the net which is one of the grassroots organizations that's been pushing for awareness about net neutrality and everything so on July 12th there's an internet wide day of action to save net neutrality hopefully you guys will at least be aware of this maybe be knowledgeable about it so you can explain its people there's an insane number of large internet based organizations that are participating in this not least of which is pornhub right there github Kickstarter Netflix is now involved fight for the future of course Amazon reddit i mean like all over the sites that you go to I mean I'm probably not all the sites you go to but a lot of the sites they make one hub imager a port hub come on horn hub is X videos in here I'm probably not I don't know they should they should jump in here too though yep the point is there's a ton of internet-based organizations who are doing this basically because they all agree that internet traffic should all be treated equally and from point A to point B it should go from point A to point B you can pay your provider for a certain amount of bandwidth and after that they should leave their hands off of your data right now the net neutrality rules that are in place that went into effect in 2015 are under scrutiny they're potentially going to be rolled back by the current FCC and would suck and a lot of people agree on that again after all of the feedback people give and after all of the protests that go on and that kind of thing they might still do it and that will suck but at least people have tried to make their voice heard and keep that in mind for when it comes time for the voting public to make something happen the next time around speaking of by the way if you weren't sure what has happening on July 12th on the internet wide date of action to save that neutrality you're going to see websites that display images that basically give people a vague idea of what might happen if net neutrality rules go away and if Internet service providers are able to throttle or limit bandwidth or limit accessibility to certain web sites because they don't have a deal set up with them where the websites paying the money or something like that so do you think everyone's just gonna like self-sabotage their own sites and make them yes flow so like this is what you're looking at so don't think it's something it's something like a blackout or a boycott I mean it's up it's up to different websites to treat it however they can some some websites will just show a message to spread knowledge other web sites will actually be blocking their content and people go there will not be able to access the stuff that they were able to access before by I download all my porn well I mean having something saved locally you know it's important but yeah firsthand experience so I yeah the SOPA if you guys remember was a so pass legislation was going through the United States government and there was a blackout that they and an Internet slowdown that they did to protest that so these are just ways of making it known and again there's lots of attempts to make this a political issue and it really shouldn't be because this is sort of a fundamental premise of how the internet was like how like what the internet was built upon which was just the free sharing of information the free sharing of data and anyway I talked enough about that let's move up all right Chinese scientists have built the first quantum satellite network this is actually pretty freakin badass almost going to include this in tales from space but the Chinese Academy of Sciences launched a satellite back in August August this satellite is capable of distributing quantum entangled photons between three different terrestrial base stations separated by as much as 1,200 kilometers on the ground what does I mean so satellites up in space it creates quantum entangled photons it does this with a crystal that it uses to produce pairs of entangled photons quantum entangled photons basically if something happens to one of them the same thing happens to the other of them so no matter what distance they're separated by it's potentially a means of instantaneous communication from one point to another with quantum entanglement hmm which is which is a physical property of quantum mechanics and everything which again I don't know enough about to give you too many details on but the satellite which is up in space uses a crystal creates a couple a quantum entangled photons distributes those sends them down to base stations on earth and those base stations have been able to basically detect changes between those two photons up to a distance of 1,200 kilometers to transmit it up to a distance of 2,400 kilometers from the satellite down to those base stations it is often very difficult to distribute photon pairs without disrupting the quantum entanglement but if you can the result is a communication channel that's effectively impossible to intercept and again it's also instantaneous regardless of the distance between the separated photons so will this eventually replace snapchat for sending dick pics potentially yes the simplest application right now is what cryptographers call a quantum key distribution network using the network to securely distribute long and complex and Crick encryption keys which are then impossible to to be seen by anyone or at least it's detectable if it is so that's why some of the articles on this are saying that's that China has developed like a foolproof quantum entanglements encryption method that's completely unser available that is possible with the further proliferation of this technology and knowledge in this field but at this point this is just a step like kind of a next step it's a demonstration of something that hasn't been done before and continue demonstration of quantum entanglement continuing to be a thing no matter how far apart the photons are which again has been known in theory but very difficult to accomplish in practice that's pretty cool beyond what's going on in China there's also collaboration between the United Kingdom's University of Strathclyde and the National University of Singapore they're also hoping to produce the same entanglement and cheap ready-made satellites called cube SATs so perhaps more practical use or more cheap or less expensive way of setting up something like this hmm that's kind of cool all right my name's Gaines as always MSI's announced the geforce gtx ten atti lightning z yeah uh if this video should no there's not oh wait others like me and Z I haven't seen the Lightning car from no sign in a while well I feel like I had a dream about light had a noise recently at 980ti lightning look there's Linus's video it was the ri9 review just being suggested to you well it's a very suggestive video here's MSS video than I'm the lightning look at all that lightning going across there it's a try frozer cooler design with torques 2.0 fans it's actually got three fans that are asymmetrical so the two on the outside are tons new ten centimeters the Elana Strix one middle is nine centimeters it does from that angle looks similar to the Strix if you if you notice that just like here's the corner the edges just that oh my god but they do have you can swap out those panels if you want and make them different colors so they're not lights but physically you can change them or they guess have some textured ones on there there's an RGB accent lighting panel here along the edge MSS mystic light software chips with an ln2 bios version i imagine for actually record-breaking overclocking and that kind of thing with this graphics card they're probably going to be using hacked v bios's allow them to get past some of the voltage limitations that nvidia has put in place it's repressed for the sets there you go um I you know what I don't think I don't think it says no they're just announcing it maybe not Sarah price it's probably like eight hundred and fifty dollars that's my guess Jesus seriously I don't know well 1080i is like seven hundred great 806 a 15 though I mean it's a flagship it's the bet it's the best one they're gonna make yeah but seriously 800 measure dollars I don't know 800 I'm just 802 I'm just throwing some what's up nothing more doable the power delivery on here is pretty insane it's a 10 layer PCB and a 14 phase power delivery you can see a lot of the chokes caps and MOSFETs right there 14 phases for the GPU and 3 phases for the memory so you can also tell like power delivery is pretty crazy because it's got three eight pins PCI Express power connectors the the cooler on it has set is capable of 700 watts of heat dissipation which is also crazy overkill there's sort of an exploded view of the entire thing so it's crazy my goodness hi I'm 1080i and I'll have to see if like 50 dollars listen it's it's always like the toss up like this GPU the the EVGA is when the one for EV the that one I see X no not the I see X the the kingpin the kinkajou maybe EVGA is kingpin edition what's it what's a to Scott at the highest end they have their Poseidon card but I don't think that's their crazy overclock Seymour so water cooling they have their Strix card I don't know I don't know if I don't know if ace just has one in the word it's kind of similar to this Mars Mars open bar that was a that was those were AMD cards though yeah it's true it'd be cool to see them bring that back like if there's a dual Vega like to see aces do another Mars GP will do a Vega that IV that would be Marcus for right yeah yes I would agree and I'm alright one more quick story to talk about before we switch over to cows have the show Atari look at look at this thing Atari did by the way chat is saying your beer is getting hot and flat Paul I'm sorry I haven't I've been talking I'll be drinking more on couch a multitask be a multi-core CPU not a single thread bitch look at this Atari video ok wait Atari ok all around what are they doing the Atari box oh wait is this Atari CEO has said that they are back in the hardware business well has this teaser video here with not much to be seen that wasn't me I hate teaser videos so much look at see you can see like the sides of it look at that look at that wood wood wood grain it's kind of got sort of a retro feel to it still but it's all digital well I guess it's always my visual but so what is this a big cabinet the giant cabinet with no I know that's something smaller um they all right so there's really very vague stuff known about this but they say it's years in the making it is based on PC technology and the article which is from hexxus net again speculates that this is a shot at the profitable retro green rich retro gaming retro games bandwagon that has been shown to be highly lucrative by NES is NES Nintendo's NES mini does any NES mini right they launched it's impossible to find it's like five times the price on eBay for anyone who wanted buy it sold out everywhere they're like god this is limited edition screw any when it wants us and those of us who understood we're like why don't people just make an emulator or use an emulator it's not the cool factor kind of yeah it doesn't have the cool factor I understand I'd I mean I say practically speaking get an emulator place play some old games I want to but I understand the nostalgic feel something like this emulators are also sort of on in the gray area of legality yeah so well if there are those if you owned the games like incipio K because of course just the games in the past but you look at the percentage of emulator users who actually own the games that they are emulating and it's or I would imagine probably pretty slowly that's why we have to establish strong moral codes so that people can police themselves I feel like like like companies like Nintendo should have emulator stores like they should sell the emulators themselves oh oh yeah I mean certainly there's like there's been lots of suggestions and possible ways that they could have monetized their previous existing ip's but the NES mini is one of those but you know clearly they want they want to limit that because it's like here's this and it plays this number of games and that's what you get yeah you know but it's like any it's like if you if you had some old favorite Nintendo game that was very obscure something like that like you can't just load it up on the NES mini like that sucks so anyway that's the theory but we don't really know for sure maybe Atari is coming back in like there's going to be a third console player in the console market now probably not that's probably not what's going on who knows maybe it could be what about what most what this most likely is is it some sort of PC or PC based or whatever you know core that they've got in there I feel like it's Atari they could run it off of a freaking they could run it off of a an old printer or something like that I'm glad you're half of the show is coming soon prior to talking anyway probably it's going to be you know some basic electronics in there running an emulator that allows you to load up and plug into a current you know HDMI connection and play retro Atari games most likely on your buddy or whatever but who knows maybe it's something else it's called Atari bucks though and they've teased it and now you guys are somewhat aware of it okay sounds like fun let's real quickly go over some donations since quite a few have donated during Murph oh I totally forgot to do a thing oh my god there's so many really all right I'll try to do it quick I've completely lost I also forgot to do this but sell I'm pretty sure you're watching right now so on Kyle's half of the show if you could I mean you're always watching chat to find like a few random chat questions that are good questions that aren't donation comments and pull those at two yes I feel like we do the donation comments but it'd be cool to answer a few comments from people who maybe just don't have money to throw around because I don't know people in that situation anyway the automatic Matt five dollar donation thank you for consistently donating so much hey guys welcome back for another week if you decide if you're making custom HTPC automatic Matt I have not fully decided that yet actually I need to go back and check my my my straw polls on that one but I'm looking I'm very actually very excited to set that up because I've been looking forward to reconfiguring that but I'm still not a half percent on how I'm going to set everything up custom water cool it yeah probably I get a custom mark but maybe it makes perfect sense uh Tom's brim Smith's 50n okay which was that Norwegian Corona and so what that is yeah I think so we're 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the plasma stuff the one that's in the the Manta custom water-cooled bill that I did however that I don't remember that enough it's right behind it's right behind or no god you're going to get it no are you just open you yeah yeah that's stuff okay that's yeah I bump the camera okay little focus okay yeah that stuff it does it doesn't make sort of a weird it kind of makes a little buzzing noise just know just keep that in mind again if it's enclosed it's not that terrible I know I know there was a new list of memory that was just a for Rison that was just released that has a bunch of different memory kits that are compatible now especially with the new Ajitha but I would be interested to potentially try they have extra plasma ram I'm not sure if the plasma stuff would interfere with the signal at all I make it makes it lowing any any more difficult for running at higher frequencies but thank you for your donation yep they're right genic $5 upgrade question currently an FX 6300 fatality motherboard from has Arakawa horizon 5 what would you suggest budget is $400 uh 400 even if it's more to told and yeah I mean at same for a 1600 yeah that's kind of what you want because you want more than four cores and you can unlock and anyone to be able overclock and that's that's a good way to get in on it go for a be 350 motherboard yeah you don't need a an X 370 and you can save 20 to 50 bucks by going that route and then ya get your get your basic phone cord components together focus on that for the for the with your 500 bucks and then worry about stuff like upgrading your case maybe means 400 ish for the CPU and motherboard since that's I hope so those are probably the only two components you'd have to upgrade he could what helps look with everything out in which case you should have my own daughter for those two components yeah thank you though Adam Kerschbaum $5 donation building computer with a budget around $1500 should I go with a risin 5 1600 or horizon 7 1700 what point is having 10 are gonna be overkill I'd say for that much money go for the 1700 yeah an extra cores and threads okay unless that's the difference between like a 1080 TI and a 1080 I don't know it's a good question yeah you get a couple more cores and and I'd want to go for the higher core count just because it's a core 16 thread you you go that squeeze a 1080i in there yeah probably we can squeeze in the 10 atti and the 1700 which I feel like you should be able to do for but here's a thing 200 if getting if lowering his standards to a 1600 meant getting a gtx 980ti that would also introduce a bit more bottlenecking and I feel like unless he was gaming at a higher resolution which I feel like he's either at 1080 or 1440 so I would I would I would just go for the faster CPU and I feel like if you even if you get a 1070 you're in really good shape for a while yeah um 1080 but you want the higher end ones because 1070 is this overpriced trainer that's true if you're in the u.s. muster deck Mac 5 bucks no comment thank you deck Mac thank you very much Adam Yeager $5 donation Paul how are you tennis on your Noctua air cooler build tried it and found the fans pointing up increased my temps by 8 C is this your HTTP or HTTPS time I see well it's my capture system I've only thumb's basic testing and temps work Vaught we're totally fine from what I tested but I'm not done overclocking or anything like that unfortunately I can't test changing those two configurations with mine because I can't I physically cannot do the vertical configuration I had to go horizont horizontal with it so there it is um but yeah I mean my attempts have been totally good so far though so yeah there you go let's be driven hundred freakin dollars out my mom oh my god mmm Adam Yeager torch ugh well this is stout I don't know if I can check this uh let's get this started right drop us a follow on YouTube and let us help you build an awesome hardware mining rig with your extra cards from bits be trippin Wow ah God now you have to look into it now you at least have to look into it cuz he gave you hundred dollars that's how it works well or or you could be like nah screw you I'll take the hundred bucks but ya know I mean again at like I have I have I don't if we can find a way to make it work Paul I don't you inaudible building a mining rig if you it's running it's running the mining rig somewhere that where you don't have access to either solar or hydropower or something all set up we'll set up a solar solution we'll set it up okay it'll be a great vlog series it'll be a cross collaboration between you anyway I'm also in will profit I mean like Annie I'm so if I if I don't put a positive spin on this cryptocurrency thing what I'm kind of hoping happens at least from the standpoint of gamers is that by the time q4 rolls around and people are spending money on like you know Black Friday deals and that kind of thing and because there's so many options for building systems then there's just going to be a crap ton of used cards on the market that like drops prices for everything once the kind of bubble bursts or once Asics are developed that can actually do that kind of mining or something like that but all that said I'll look into it obviously okay so bits be driven thank you for the hundred dollar donation hashtag ad oh my god Colton Spears ten dollars my mining rig with six five ATS brings in a little over a thousand dollars a month and costs one hundred two hundred and fifty dollars in electricity it's not bad that's not bad at all I'm wondering where you're located yeah but yeah but that's pretty nice with six five ATS that's that's a good stack right we'll buy a place in Arizona and it'll just be a house full of GPUs yeah just Monday night all right well work on Andruw Jones five dollars in California would still be profitable to hit point four zero kilowatt hours I don't know the rates so you would have to do the math we don't know how to I know that my rates are always high because I work from home and I work with computers so I'm always going up to the higher tiers of pricing which is always a challenge for me so that's why yeah it'd be a very much a challenge sebastian Casella twenty a RS i don't know what IRS is Argentina's Gardea is that as Noah be a third gated ours for diya would be we be available to use PayPal and as guardian as Guardi is free you have to pay for as Gardea I don't know what you're gonna have to pay once they create those floating garni is free but if you were making transactions within as Gardea if you're buying stuff on on the S guardian internet or no they're probably gonna have their own Internet right the problem is probably gonna be a separate internet for us Gardea and so they're gonna have gonna be you know a bunch of like the 1990s where all the rich people like right in the future like living on earth actually on the planet is gonna be shitty everything's gonna suck everybody's gonna be really limited resources and people are gonna fight each other in La Casa and this is gonna be a scardy at these floating platforms will pop up above naked women everywhere there's a movie like this right you word Elysium Elysium is the same one yeah yeah it's basically and be Elysium yeah some humongous five pounds sterling yo you did a good review on the verdaguer chair actually that was Kyle hey how'd you get a hundred fifty thousand views on a chair video don't know my god it's the buzz informing chair video well done sir thank you can you do one hurt Herman Miller chair and compare them because the Herman Miller chairs I think we're a thousand bucks or something shares are not something I ever seek out this is supposed to be the the pinnacle of chairs of their nightly so I've heard PS cider is better in its ear Ennis you're in a your Ennis Uranus Uranus yeah that's just not as fun it's nowhere near as fun but thank you give you guys of course half $10 last week I was mean sexually aggressive to Kyle I meant it yeah you Kyle love you Paula winky face Thank You Leigh like you lay on you're my favorite I'm glad you cleared that I appreciate your honesty code cut uh I'm hiccupping goo dude ten bucks haven't caught you guys for a while cheers hey cheers to you as well no don't you keep saying jeez automatic Matt's $5 again Jesus I hope do you ever quit just check new egg and only found the hyper cloud X as a gift with gigabyte huh maybe Jake has Davey check the hexxus article that that's linked in the description because it says the UK oh my qualifying buyers and I think it's only with Oris boards so if you're I think there's a couple naw Norris gigabyte boards so those might even so though I probably take a hyper cloud x over all that stuff right X those are great heads and nice options yeah there you go Stephen Louis $5 EJ makes a GTX 1060 for the wind plus I noticed that they also have another version called EVGA GTX 1060 for the win plus DT do you know what the DT means no no I honestly have no idea double-double trouble trouble down two and then you'll never know what it's down to do hey I'm not sure uh Ichi if you're on Twitter tweet to EVGA Jacob yeah ask that guy he VJ Jacob F and maybe he can tell you I'm sure there's something yeah the DT gaming what what's the deal there DT D what why have I never heard of this and even has them the boxing the ring a Dan I'm confused damn trippy date dang that's double ball bearings is it the fan detuned people are saying DT tuned that's okay so what does that mean I don't know do you tuned like you have a guitar and you detune it now it's out of tune I don't I'm not sure yeah I mean I'm mad I detuned sounds somewhat reasonable I mean EJ's makes things alright ah a little more expensive than let's move on I'm sorry we couldn't answer that for you but um maybe Jacob can't you stumped us I'll have your reviews $5 donation hey guys big fan from San Francisco Bay Area hey any advice for a noob youtuber trying to grab my channel do it cuz you love it don't do it because he lots of people you want lots of people to watch you yeah do it do it cuz you've got the passion you gotta have it in you you're gonna gotta be made of the stuff mom beyond that I would say look for collaborations find people who are around your channel sighs and there always be lots of them whether you've got a thousand followers or whether you're ten thousand or whether you're at fifty thousand find anyone who's kind of in that range collaborate with them make sure they you know they do legitimate content reach out to them and say hey let's let's do a collaborative giveaway or a video where we each go in talk about something because getting your face on to other people's videos even if you're all sort of relatively smaller when it comes to the ground scheme of things is a great way of boosting your exposure indeed it's were a much more Katelyn Parker $10 you guys helped me build a PC for the first time with your videos while being thoroughly entertained appreciate your personalities and approach have a brewski on me we will thanks Caleb boo boo Kayla Kayla awesome she's on a cord for the five dollars five dollars - Kyle is fat shaming me by not carrying 2x flash bios and cpu cooler shirts I am so sorry Sean I did not get this to fat shame you in that indirect way is Jon still still on vacation just came back oh he's back our t-shirt guy is back we'll be restocking those very shortly actually I think they're on the printer right now yeah the big big sizes I'm all I'm free of all right why are we going so late Fred rant 50 freaking dollars Fred Fred thank you which motherboard brand do you think is the best Asus MSI EVGA added some extra since I missed you guys uh and whatever is reload answer that click is missed you last week uh alright I like Asus yeah I mean okay there's there's some sentimental value to Asus for me because it was my first motherboard ever back in 2012 when I when I built my first ever it was a Sandy Bridge system on I actually I have the board somewhere up there somewhere anyway it was an Asus board and I really just I've had really good experiences with with Asus boards in the past especially their BIOS I feel like when I'm in the UEFI I feel like it's a really stable BIOS it doesn't have any weird sort of issues that I've experienced on competitor boards I don't know if you can say the same thing but Asus has always seemed very reliable to me over the last one six six years or so I mean if you look at the sizes of the companies Asus is the biggest then Asus and gigabyte have kind of gone back and forth when it comes to market share gigabyte did have more motherboard ship to the nicest I think a year or two ago but they've kind of gone back and forth I feel like Asus has the most developers that put the most put more man-hours into the development of them boards and I really love the rog series because i feel like they have done a lot of innovation and like crazy stuff on that platform it seems to trickle down to the competitor yes really and which trickles down to the other asus boards and also over to competitors because you'll find lots of stuff that asus did first at other motherboard manufacturers and me alone will pick up all that said you can get a very high-quality fine functional working mother word from any of those manufacturers i mean asus gigabyte and msi are typically at the top EVGA you might add in specifically on the intel side they don't do a and b stuff then probably as rock is up there as well yeah but yeah i mean if if a CSS is down fall and my experience is its motherboards where there's just too much stuff going on you're like like the higher-end motherboards sometimes I've had situations I'm like there's too many things and more moments earlier and it's any and it's causing hop complex or something like that but yeah I've tried it agree as Kyle and overall we typically go with Asus yeah but again we have friends and other manufacturers as well this is my Google $5 a donation I don't know what a czar what PC hardware trends changes do you think we'll see between now in the first half of 2018 ddr5 more HBM the death of our GP that is a big question that we do not have time to fully answer right now but I think if you go back in this video we did talk about certain stuff like that gddr5 x and g GD r 6r right on the horizon HBM to ddr5 i don't see coming at any time in the near future but hopefully in the next year and a half to two years we'll probably see an HP m to potentially death of RGB is not going to happen no all right dylan spires thank you for the $10 donation thanks both for all the great content how viable is a 1600 k10 ATT I build for content creation editing and gaming very very good found a 60 under K for 300 u.s. dollars or should I lean toward rise in for productivity if you can get a good deal on a sixty hundred K I would say go for it yeah that's a great option especially if you're combining it with a 1080 TI you should get a little bit better gaming performance thanks to the slightly better IPC performance with the 6100 k compared rise in CPS Luis Herrera five dollars and sixty nine cents that's very specific what did you think of the Corsair air 740 I never worked with it you didn't build me with it yeah I didn't build with it uh perfectly adequate case plenty of room lots of space to work with wide footprint it's larger aesthetic is love or hate I think yeah but I feel like it looks a lot better in person well I was like when I saw your video if it was like that's weird I don't know how I feel about that and then I went to your garage when I went to your place and Sutton person I was like that looks pretty sick actually I don't know that was just me but I feel like you have to be there to to really appreciate it yeah I like different I like it it lacks the tempered glass that some of the some of the cases from this year have but if you're looking for a wider case like that and you want lots of room that it's it's certainly very very nice case also the fans that ship with are very quiet too which is nice Bevan Johnson ten dollars a donation again as I think that's Australian perhaps how hot do LED strips get I'm looking to get him on a light saber toy to my light f2 light of my PC Bevan I'm not not be concerned about LED Heat unless they're directly up against something that you're concerned about getting too hots like your balls yeah but by-and-large LEDs I mean they're hot if you touch them but anything that's further than like a centimeter away it's not gonna affect too badly so don't be don't be too concerned with that you go for it on customize your PC Rob crib $2 donation taxation is theft couldn't agree more des Jones $5 donation one month and a half before the Ripper is released the hype is real I'm excited me too rob crib $20.00 I believe again Australian donation also saying that taxation is theft again as a reminder Rob you're you're doing the Lord's work I couldn't agree you might need to remind us one more time okay I am a $9.99 $5 donation hi guys any points going from a 4790k to 6600 k for gaming and streaming i have a gtx 980ti and run triples triple monitors I'm really not 47 92 6600 know that's a GPU thing okay your graphics card if you're going to run triples your CPU will only do it's it's not going to be worth I feel like you're going to scale a lot better if you upgrade to like the gog takes 1080i or maybe even two of them upgrading your cpu will only probably net you no more than a five percent gain in FPS to be honest yeah i would drop in another 1080 iron 980ti before i before i upgraded that keep your eye on higher core count options in the next year and a half and then and then that's what you should look to upgrade pup Shepherd $5 donation what time do you stop taking pip my PC after you tweet I sent one pimp mine s also I have up to 283 subs now thank you thank you pop a really depends when proc refers to subs anyway so what we do okay what shoutouts is so so clean wrist sigelei um alright so uh it really depends it depends on how half an hour I am for the show half an hour if I'm not prepared at all then I'll be taking submissions up until 5:00 29 p.m. but if I'm like feeling good and I like prepare in the morning and shade ahead I have a on lock then you know you probably have a half hour window after the time I send the tweet but if you can make it on today or this week then try again next week oh my god these things up forever thank you pup my goodness alright Fred rant fifty-one dollar donation no one beats me here's another 51 dollars to make the sub one hundred and one dollars Oh ready you win you a winner and I'm sure no one no one else will win more than you go on a rant with donation the right connect another five dollar donation a donor character sucks need info on specific 350 and RAM for the 1600 unless ddr3 RAM will work my risin motherboard you guys will not work you need ddr4 and you need ddr4 that works with Rison and again there was a list that was released either today or yesterday ram updated ram compatibility list and i don't immediately know where to get it but AMD or AMD risin on twitter or Thrax robert Halleck would probably also be posting about about that and you can find that ram list but use that Ram list to make sure you get RAM that's validated to run at a higher frequency if you can get stuff that runs at 29:33 at 3200 a solid kit of say 16 gigs go for that I would also say try to stick with 2 sticks if you can because you have a better chance of getting higher frequency so like 2 by 8 for 16 gigs as opposed to 4 by 4 as opposed to 4 by 4 yeah is a better option that Scot Dilbeck six dollars and sixty six a super metal rate my build i7 7700 K Strix Z 270 crossfire are X 480 Strix 16 gigs of ram 1 terabyte SST SSD probably 4 terabyte mechanical Scout 2 case each ATI cooler thanks guys um I think that's a pretty solid rig looks very solid I'd say on your graphics card is probably the place where you could use an upgrade the 7700 K can easily push something way higher end than that you're probably doing just fine with your R X 480 especially if you're loading crossfire that's crossfire yeah oh so he's got two of them alright well you got two of them which are X 480 if you're gonna if you're gonna do SLI or crossfire the I feel like the our X 480 scales pretty well that's a good bang for the buck probably not in every game so as soon as you feel like more of the games that you're playing are starting to not support crossfire as much as you'd like them to then may be considered just opting for a single faster GPU maybe Vega yeah when it comes out yeah drop a couple vega's in there when that launches Deus the Vega hodad's $5 the DT cards do not pass the same level of testing as a normal for the winged cards ship at a lower frequency but still have the other extra for the one features yeah thank you coda that's very useful and that is very useful bronzy for the win $5 hey guys have an i7 4790k was thinking about it getting X 299 should I do it or wait til coffee lake don't want to do AMD if you don't want to do MD and you know you don't want AMD then go for extra 99 the only thing I think coffee lake might provide is a 6 core that's kind of on the same level as the 7700 K right now 71 100 K right now or the 77 40 K on the X to end and I are still going to be your peak X game 7-7 40 X is still going to be your peak gaming performance right now like right now right now yeah I foresee potentially coffee like giving you a mainstream 6-core option that also has the same or better instruction of your clock and frequency performances at 7700 K so that might be the potential for waiting all that said if you do other stuff if you do anything besides gaming and again you're absolutely sure you're not interested in the AMD stuff then yes X 299 is where you want to be it's a 1 K PC Worth also is a 1 K power supply worth it probably not like a I guess you mean a thousand watts it's usually a little bit overkill most power most even high-end pcs can get away with like 850 watts all that said I mean if it's a good deal and go for it Chucky's tied you dollar donation' drunken daddy goodbye 1080 wind force for four hundred thirty dollars recently brand-new that is a really good deal yeah good job chunky tie Scott Dilbeck two dollars second comments you guys you guys one scrapyard worse um Joe you know we're leaving that up to the more no mom buys that that everyone knows that rob crib ten dollars Australian donation taxation is theft one more time just for Kyle love your work irrespective of her feelings on institutionalized theft that's that's fine I mean taxes suck and everyone hates taxes I see money I like Dez Jones $2 donation have you seen the ridiculous prices on X 299 motherboards they don't seem ridiculous to me because they're same as the prices on all of the high-end Intel stuff for the past two or three launch cycles to kind of expected these hyper yeah 250 is kind of your starting points for pricing right out of the gate and then you'll probably see motherboards in the $200 range relatively soon it won't be till two years after X tonight and and launches it you'll see anything below that at least too far below that it's got Dilbeck thank you for your other two dollar donation mark headsman thank you for your $5 donation non-paid questions oh all right these are other dammit sell you're really too far on top of that all right my side of the show has gone way too long already so we need to cut this off we're going to be continuing with cows half of the show in just a minute thank you guys all for sticking with us thumbs up button if you enjoyed the video links to everything we talked about be right back be right back we'll be right back watching on YouTube right now live go ahead and click the link in pulse description that will take you to my half of 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