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Awesome Hardware #0111-A: Vega RX? More like Vega R-Xpectations Too High

2017-07-05
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much we'll be reading all of the messages that are attached to donations at the end of each half of the show so keep on giving us money all right new segments which is really just a grouping stories which I thought I'd make a new segment for a new segment is Las Vegas wait but it's not even seen yes time of year it's actually it means the Vegas right cuz his daughter gpus right I thought that was clever enough that I even made a new lower thirds for it there it is Matt Amir bad Amir Putin improves guys love this names you good it's perfect uh so let's let's talk about the first story in this list we actually talked about Vega launch the launch of Vega frontier edition mega Fe last week which launched the day that we did the show last week and they didn't really do much sampling to vendors are to reviewers prior to that so there Vince very good reviews that have come out I'm going to share a couple stories from excuse me I went to the wrong story first we're gonna talk to a couple reviews from gamers Nexus as well as PC perspective but first since all the excitement about Vega is about the Vega RX the Radeon version of Vega which is meant for gaming since the frontier edition has not been for gaming there are some new leaks on that just just recently this WC CF Tech so grain of salt salts can according to them via a 3d mark 11 database entry because when you when you do some of those benchmarks see synthetic benchmarks they might automatically lips impression ribbon when you do benchmarks they might automatically submits the benchmark to a database and so you troll those databases and look for specific IDs of graphics cards that you know exist WCC F Tech apparently discovered some of that the the reference rx Vega board is codenamed six eight seven f : c1 which really rolls off the tongue that's just a database entry though and they have it kind of paired up here with the different GPUs some that exist some that are are cut our forthcoming clock speed they'll 1630 megahertz though is what was registered by this database entry also featured eight gigs of HBM to not sixteen like the like the frontier addition and total 484 gigabytes per second of bandwidth between the memory and the GPU which is pretty impressive but I mean the same as a frontier Edition so it does represent 30 megahertz core clock faster speed than the frontier Edition however the HBM to memory is running at the same frequency so so there's that now if this is just a reference Edition which we would have to assume it is since this until very early and of course we're assuming this is this is real baby then you know we would also have to assume that there would be aftermarket cards made by third party board adding board manufacturers that might move those clock speeds up or perhaps even memory frequency that kind of thing now since this is a benchmark 3d mark 11 benchmark they did have the actual results listed here they're not looking at the overall score in this list they're just looking at the graphics score because they're all tested with slightly different hardware although it looks like all these are with 6700 case but the generic vga one is over then left score 330 1873 which is more than the gtx 1080 which scored 27,000 618 also more than the gtx 1070 with the score of twenty three thousand six hundred and eight although still falls behind the ten ATT i try to score of thirty eight thousand three hundred and eighty nine so it looks like it's almost right in between the 1080 and ten of ET i may be leaning a little bit closer to the ten eighty but will probably be a lot cheaper than the 1080i there yeah i mean and that according to these tests of course and these are synthetics that's really early we would assume that whatever bent whatever drivers they're using are still premature since the drivers even for the the frontier edition they've already stated that the the gaming side drivers for that when it's in game mode are still not you know as as totally good as they should be yeah because they're still working on it probably a lot of that has to do with the launch cadence that they've gone with for Vega because they originally promised Vega by the end of the first half which was the end of June and they barely squeaked it in there with the frontier Edition getting it out like just barely on the last couple days of June and it wasn't even the gaming version of car but hey they did launch Vega they launched a big bigger products crash the neighbors do they yeah WCC up SEC to do the charts down here so you can see those next to each other's today's the Vega was the score thirty one thousand 1080i up there were thirty eight thousand ten eighty ten seventy down there below it so there you go they all sorry ran these tests with their own cards and got some various scores to test with some over clock speeds and whatnot so the articles linked in the video description as is all the articles that we are talking about today so you guys can check those up a little bit more info on it I wonder I wonder if Vegas launch price from the RX Vegas launch price is gonna be affected at all by the cryptocurrency mining you know fuckery that's going on right now I don't know it's difficult to say because it's you know it's impossible to say right I guess unless I mean okay so the reviews that we're gonna talk about right now of course from gamers Nexus PC PC perspective have been testing mostly a mix of gaming and workstation applications to kind of see what the cards are made of gamers Nexus focused a lot on power consumption and and that kind of thing because those are that's that's a more fundamental thing about the chip that isn't going to change much with with driver updates and they also you know they're very methodical in there and they're testing everything so that's how they decided to go about it but just to run down real quick again linked in the description if you guys want to read the full article this one's by Steve Burke and he did a series of tests they did the workstation test of blender Maya 3d studio max creo kata kata-kata kata-kata yeah and they also did GP test our gaming performance testing firestrike doom sniper Ghost Recon for our honor and ashes of the singularity than paranoid noise and thermals at the end fascinating fascinating stuff they've also done that tear down of the card they had builds I'd go over it and talk about the power delivery modules on everything which are all really really impressive been really really well done he was he was very very enthusiastic about kind of the ideal layout they had Dennis far as the spacing between the power phases and the GPU which is you're only able to do because you have the HBM which is also on the same package with in with the GPU die itself but anyway this GPU is a weird situation because it is not a gaming graphics card but it's not necessarily a workstation a fully-fledged workstation graphics card anything other workstation graphics cards like your quad rose and your fire pros cost as much as they do because they require a serious amount of validation to make sure that they're going to work with the software that you're paying lots and lots of money for the analogy that Steve made in his video was if you're developing something like you're developing parts for airplanes it's very important that everything is very very accurate because people's lives are at stake if you're developing a video game you know it's not quite as important so you can get by with something that's a little bit less expensive and it doesn't necessarily have all the validations so what you have with Vega Frontier Edition is a workstation class graphics card not quite as many validations as you would have with those types of GPUs but a thousand bucks or 1500 once the particle version is available and for people who are doing that type of work it makes a lot of sense it's not a gaming graphics card but a lot of people are looking at as looking at it as such and that's why a lot of the gaming tests when you compare it i've been seeming disappointed to people again there's still work being done on the drivers for these the gaming side drivers we're not sure how much improved performance to expect there once those do become more fleshed out and more you know actually tailor tailored for specific titles and that kind of thing but when it comes to the actual tests the gamers Nexus ran at least the Vega frontier Edition kind of traded blows with the Titan XP and the workstation tests that they ran maya 3d studio max blender creo and kate Katya katia like like and pronounce that wrong it did seem to like CAD based tasks a little bit better but again a little bit pretty much went back and forth when it came to the gaming tests it would actually perform either just below a gtx 1080 or above a gtx 1070 in the actual gaming performance as listed but again this is not a gaming card so this is why some people are looking at these tests and being like wow like not being a big into meeting a 1080 like that that seems disappointed or whatever but it's not what it's intended for really yeah so again really good job on article by gamers Nexus so it encourage you guys to read that full on if you want to get a little bit more info on its yeah Steve's conclusion was that it's really an entry to professional level card it makes sense for workstation apps it's inexpensive inexpensive versus a Quadro or a full-fledged workstation GPU like that it's a good fit for someone like the game developer who needs to also be able to switch over to gaming mode quickly and not fully rely on workstation level level drivers so yeah there's that what's called your video game developer yes it is and there's a lot of video game developers there it's a very you know it's a good market to get into there's lots of jobs and everything and there's lots of small studios who need to do that kind of work who can't afford to show up for $1,000 or $5,000 for a graphics card mm-hmm so perhaps something nice to sit in between there and and there's also really nothing on Nvidia site that I know of that sort of a hybrid between a workstation and a gaming card is there Titan XP that's pretty yeah I guess there's an XP which is what it's compared to and in most of their their tests and the Titan XP is 1,200 bucks the Vegas frontier edition is $1,000 the Titan XP does seem to outperform it when you look at sort of across the board as far as testing goes the Vega frontier Edition also seems to draw a little bit more power although the Vega Frontier editions stock cooler seems to do a slightly better job it's all it kind of depends on much which tests are running and everything though but the point being it's it's it's competitive to a degree with the Titan XP so there's probably going to be people who are interested in it right so yeah there's that further from gamers Nexus because they actually have a card and they're doing pretty cool stuff with it just today I didn't include it for today's coverage but they did a clock for clock comparison with the frontier addition and the feejee the the theory or Yuri the fairy x-3x is faster surprising just kidding when they're Clarke's pockets yeah when they're when they're clock for clock it's it's weird because sometimes they're kind of been the same at the same level with each other but um yeah it's so the drivers to though that I mean the feejee drivers have been yeah in development for quite some time as opposed to just this really fresh launch and it's not even for like a die-hard gaming card like the jerk seems like the drivers are maybe more tuned or optimized for like the 3d CAD you know rendering type stuff that would seem like that's what they were more ready for yeah or perhaps they're just lets less scrutiny in that area than if they had launched its specifically true I'd like the gaming card or whatever but yeah with the comparing it to the fury X was interesting but I'm in Baramulla fury act ships at a clock speed of 1050 whereas this is shipping at a clock speed of 1600 so yeah that's a lot of benefit that you get just with the improved architectures that they're able to just run it at a much higher frequency but there is there's some interesting stories about that too and I think they're also going into doing another hybrid mod with it and water cooling it I also heard him mention anyway all right let's talk about PC perspective they've been doing the same thing Ryan Strout actually was following him and his tweets and everything and he was one of the first to get his cards from what I understand and last week PC perspective actually did a live stream with some initial benchmarks and then their live stream charts he was putting up and everything were immediately screen capped and reposted by WCC f Tech as well as elsewhere around the internet which is either either like shitty or hey cool more exposure for PC perspective I guess I didn't see anyone posting him without attribution for the most part but yeah Ryan actually ordered a couple cards to make sure he could get them quickly he got both of them so he has done some crossfire testing this was just posted today yeah caveats in the article again these are not gaming cards the drivers are not ready yet we have that all in mind he said in both game mode and professional motocross the crossfire option is just there and it's in the Radeon settings you just just turned on so that's that's fairly easy I suppose and then the results which are down here and I mean they I'm not going to go to each individual page here but he did dirt rally fallout for grand theft auto 5 hitman The Witcher 3 and the results were pretty impressive pretty much across the board Vega frontier Edition and crossfire jumps up so it's beating a 1080 but still not beating a 1080 Ti so you can either look at that as like good it improved or look at it like man it still didn't beat that's an ATT I not a gaming card yep still not fully fleshed out drivers ok especially for crossfire - well yeah especially especially for crossfire also pointed out in the article crossfire bench or crossfire drivers support is often like the very last thing that game developers and/or the driver developers actually focus on so all that stuff in mind the exceptions in that and in the case what I was talking about it also lost to the 1080 in GTA 5 to 2560 by 1440 it had zero or a negative scaling and hitman so that performance was pretty much pretty pretty much the same as a single card and it did manage to beat the 1080i and witcher 3 at 4k so they had pretty good scaling there and and which were three good to know yeah alright one last story here in this segments since we've been talking so much about Vega last Vega this has been we've mentioned this before but it has now been confirmed the RX Vega gaming GPUs are going to be launched we don't know what to agree that they're going to be launched to what degree they're going to be launched but they're gonna be launched at SIGGRAPH 2017 they'll be unveiled so again we're not sure if that means that's when reviews are gonna come out or go on sale sale or they're gonna have like a paper launch or like a we confirm this actually exists and here's some specs for it and another month we'll have them for you who knows hopefully it means that there's actually reviews and everything like that nothing was confirmed today but we don't know what it is yeah the company's like let's go confirmation can be it's very good I can confirm we know nothing yeah the this confirmed via the Radeon Twitter so SIGGRAPH 2017 which is in Los Angeles maybe we can stop by July 30th to August 3rd is when the event actually takes place SIGGRAPH is the special interest group on computer graphics and interactive techniques this is their annual conference on computer graphics that's convenient by the ACM SIGGRAPH organization the first SIGGRAPH conference was in 1974 I don't like how it's the they left out two letters in their analogy because it's and interactive techniques so graphic I feel like interaction graph it so graph it is a graph it you're right I mean that's it even flows my thinks might have been added later on like you know and they shoulda should have added on int I feel like interactive techniques whatever that means is getting left out of the equation and you'll know that reason notify that I will not be attending cigarette here Kyle's putting cigarette on blast right now I'm boycotting that date the name sucks that they can't learn acronyms they can't run a trade show sorry feel very strongly but okay don't we gotta burning your bridges with like respect to going there and checking big ass I know I know you show up to Vic I'm here for the Vega demo it's like you were the money hey hey if I got if I got if I got x-series samples from Intel after that sketch video that's true that's true maybe I should be got here gotta keep pushing them yep that's right never back down no okay so uh Vega Vega for gaming should hopefully be here soon yeah yeah alright another new segment oh this this next double trouble I know this new segment is gone say it ain't so like the Weezer song yeah cool like I know that's a good song yes actually when I came up with the name I didn't even put those two and two together and then it and then I was like oh yeah I like that song this is true anyway these are mostly stories about scams of some degree or things that seemed to be one way and then actually or not so that's yeah that's this is probably a 1 this is probably Wow roughly not gonna do become a regular segment on the show or anything like that but you never know alright so I think we talked about this on the show before this is over over in China IRS check era's Technica article you remember this car straddling bus what we mentioned we I'm pretty sure we showed this at some point it's a bus that drives over the top of a road tracks on the side and the bus is on top and then the traffic and still go underneath that's pretty cool yeah this was a first reported last year in late August it's in the Chinese city of Ching Wong Dao I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that correctly its new Beijing and this is the TEB the transit elevated bus but apparently it's all garbage it's all BS what yep this has all been photoshopped no so it actually exists and it didn't roll up and down the road a few times but has since have just been abandoned and sits in the middle of the street in December it had been sitting on its test track in the city for months gathering dust and causing traffic jams that was I believe reported on CNN what how is it causing traffic jams if it allows cars to underpass I don't know you can't it's scary you know you just see this big thing right what do you do just slam on the brakes oh no it's a tunnel that looks weird yeah pretty much like what if you needed to I like UFO what if you're like right as I get under there I'm gonna need to pull over for some reason and then it's gonna be blocking blocking the way how unlucky would you be possible you had to really pull over it's that the span of that that 20 feet can happen at the worst time okay fair enough yeah so on Sunday Beijing's Dongcheng District Police Bureau announced on Weibo that it had started an investigation to the company behind the TEB project that's why yang collat chyli fogging Kailasa and trying to pronounce Chinese words embed any way that company is sort of as an online investing platform kind of like crowd Cube never heard of crowd you okay but it's an online investing platform let's let's compare it to something like Kickstarter sure except it's it for investments the police say they're holding more than 30 people and it says holding is it did they arrest them I'm not sure maybe that's why it's not running it's just like that just holding yeah this is holding maybe to say no because sobbing what's stopping anything very kind of them very nice but does it includes by Zhi Zhi Ming who runs the why young Kyle I and the TV projects sorry yeah that's a Chinese anyway this project was sold to private investors it had a minimum buying of one hundred and fifty thousand US dollars and a promised annualized return of twelve percent as of October 2016 they had raised nine point 1 billion yen which is about 1 billion pounds or 1.3 billion US dollars but now 72 of those investors have filed lawsuits and who knows what's gonna happen to this massive bust thing geez the end of the story talks about how the the dude in charge of all this actually seen is talking about like he wants to relocate it to a different city which is weird is weird if it's a scam or something like that but I'm anyway I just I just thought that was somewhat fascinating there's other pictures I forgot to go through there yeah so here's here's the best thing there it is see that's why that's why I'm just holding on to my 150,000 dollars yeah well I mean we were both we were both considering investing but mm-hmm glad they asked me got they asked me and I had to turn them down they just want to put my name on it smishing smishing is this a mash-up of fishing and SMS texting yes it is oh my god how did you guess that Wow is it cuz you're reading something oh man no it's simply Google Talk whoa so smishing everyone be will ever want to watch out for smishing have you been smushed hmm I might have been smashed before or a verb that's uh smishing smishing like al mentioned had a good fishing last nights like fishing like you'd be sent spam email or something like that trying to get you to click on something or expose your information but it's a SMS text message that you get on your phone meant to defraud you according to the article users tend to trust text messages as opposed to email which many people are suspicious of due to phishing but you get a texted me like hey it's a Texas I must open it no one scandalous or of wit will ever texts me no so there you got everyone the text will try to get you to provide account information such as login names passwords or credit cards it might also include a link so if you have a smartphone like most people do in the messaging app will often launch something like a browser the messages are often sent with the sense of urgency sometimes they pose as businesses like Oh your account tier is overdue and you're like I don't have an account there I better investigate it which you shouldn't what you shouldn't do don't do that alone but yes sometimes opposes businesses sometimes they'll pose as friends like you're never coming back the other night you know I'm just sitting here naked with my girlfriends hey I don't have a friend named Bartholomew yes maybe I do have a friend named Paul if it's been so long since we embrace all of you but if you but if you were a Smasher why would you use the name Bartholomew like I'd go with Mike because you're looking for siding anyway don't you need something unique and different than people like huh I was gonna ignore this but that's true but now I'm interested or maybe because like whoever clicks on Bartholomew the Bartholomew text you know will fall for anything else yeah it's just a way to weed out all this mess have to send him all this movies miss miss him so hard now so yeah I never never tapped Lynx cents via text message especially if there's a RL shortened ones consider an anti-virus the article says they recommend ESET which actually is a pretty good antivirus the guy they interview for the articles from ESET which might have something to do with that but he said it actually it's pretty good pretty good one I was gonna say article didn't mention this this is my personal advice my phone at least if I get because I get spam calls a decent amount to on Android phones at least I'm not sure if you can do this on Apple you can like long press the number or the call that came in and then you can either report it like report of spam or block the number or whatever you're been using the reporting tools that are available to you I would say definitely do that because that can immediately get sentence like never gotten a call on your phone where it says suspect suspected spam caller yeah it's been flagged and yeah that's cuz people have reported that so right so crowdsource you know the flagging of these artists and hopefully they'll be less effective I don't know I can't really expand on this topic very much but I over the weekend though I was there kept getting spammed with this number and one of the guys I was with cuz I was at a bachelor party I tried to call you a bunch this weekend it was like was that you let me go ahead and unblock your number really quick fault I know but he recommended an app called mr. number or something like that mr. number or mr. I think was mr. number and I downloaded it but I never like got around to using it so I don't know maybe maybe you guys could check that out apparently it's for for blocking expand and is saying you recommend it or it gives you more information on calls that you're receiving more than what your phone natively gives you which could be cool again maybe that's a good stand on it much yes maybe it is alright mr. number yeah missed missed your number now mr. number like mr. oh I can miss like the like looking like a gentleman a gentleman caller yes we should make a competing app called gentleman caller it also sounds like a bondage toy like a gentleman caller you're right so that could get multiple there's all sorts introduce products down opportunities people need to take advantage of these or we could just do miss his number missus that's mistress number alright one more one more sugar you talked about in this is a great segment people are confirming in chat that Mister numbers are pretty sweet numbers good some people have used chances so must be true alright uh you remember being all excited to buy a jean edited a tiny pig like a little tiny pig wait what a little bit all right so this articles from MIT Technology Review there's a there's a Chinese genomics Giants one of the largest genomics company companies in the world actually they called BGI they're actually going public this week you can invest in them I'm gonna do I imagine it be healthy payoff on the Chinese what's the Chinese stock market called I don't know it's nothing Nikkei is it I don't know enough about stahma Nikkei I think Nikkei is Japan or is that there's at the entire Pacific Rim I'm not sure I'm alright nevermind I don't do stocks so do I point being for a while people were kind of freaked out because they were genetically engineering mini pigs yes in September 2015 and I think this is something we talked about too that's trying to make this maybe it's like stuff we talked about in the past that is now reporting on to be false but I don't know if that's true or not new segment yet new say yeah we'll make a new segment about welcome to Island anyway September 2015 there were some employees from this company at the Shenzhen International biotech leaders summit and they and they said that they intended to sell half sized bama pigs to inaugurate a market for gene edited pets available in custom colors and sizes custom colors yes nice colors so it's like what are these sleeping a tiny tiny pig and I want her to be like turquoise right I want it like a very very bright 80s turquoise find me a picture of that pig Alice and I want the pig to be that big that's what I want and you just place your order and then I cares your pig contents cost $1,400 this is no this is true by the way now we're talking about it but a gene edited mini pig was gonna cost $1400 and people were either really excited about it if they're smart or barb they're super pissed is there a bunch of stuck-up prudence who don't like United you know in many pigs playing God or something like that it's like just look at the mini pig it's normal customize new pigs so cute but anyway it's all it's all for naught although you can now invest as of this week apparently in VG is they have gone public you cannot buy the DNA engineered mini pigs they said they won't be marketing the pigs to consumers at all we have no plans to sell micro pigs note the phrasing here though we have no plans to sell micro pigs doesn't mean they're not gonna make them true this asana maybe they could have a giveaway like what if they just gave away the mini-pigs a thousand mini-pig give away yeah I would enter that contest very very quickly they just mail you the pick I would make a bunch of fake identities to enter that so I could have a better chance of winning the mini big yeah me too maybe that's a quote from Jung Lee who's a key member of their animal science program Jung Lee what's wrong with Jung Lee no no no I thought you're laughing at the name no I'm good that's a guy named king of dumb thoughts okay uh China has apparently raced ahead with gene editing technology in general though they have also generated long haired goats just what I would do first if I had the power of God yeah and super muscular dogs actually super muscular dogs mad gains for you for your child who those guys what even look that muscular Hercules why would a dog Jani go why would you need to try to make a dog more muscular Hercules we don't ripped my doggies that's Hercules right there what is a Siamese dog I don't know they just fan they're supposed to be soup you know maybe it's a relative term baby it's cute dogs right yeah it's two different dogs no no they're not they're not conjoined or no they just I don't know what the hell they're doing in this lab they're the world's first Jean edited dogs and they have more muscles and are expected to have stronger running ability which is good for hunting police and military applications God so basically yeah God quite literally so basically we're just gonna see this I mean this is like steroids for dogs right no I know there's like actually genetically genetic yeah genetic modification yeah well then then if it's not like steroids then eventually it's just gonna be they're all doing this to test it on humans eventually they're just gonna test it on humans be like hey look you don't have to go to the gym anymore you just like take this injection and and you'll get super ripped like not even steroids based but genetically enhanced muscles and other things like here take a pill while they already have that for enlarging your penis but I don't know I don't know I don't know where I'm going with this I don't know that I was trailer that's like that's like I'm gonna I'm gonna respond Cal is saying I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to what he has to say you have a thought for smile never a good idea because half the time you know you'll say something no but I got it I mean I wasn't even pay attention what I just said seemed like an asshole cuz I'm not nervous fun right this time I'm gonna be really engaged oh my god I got to see what all the hypes about couch time coming what do you have to say alright you can go back to ignoring me for the resolution it's good it's good we're doing it were to this point we're not quite to the point where we are inebriated yet no we have one beer we have a slightly one beer yeah you should I'm not a second now right just ordinarily this odd okay cool that's it so we're gonna go to swordfight next and certify it's gonna be slightly different this week we only have a single topic and we're not gonna debate it so much as we are going to give you guys the thing to vote on Jenny posting into chat right now and and yeah and we're also gonna discuss it and then we'll come back and see what you guys think so I wanted to start out with the question to keep things up and up this is net neutrality I've been talking about net neutrality just trying to sprinkle it in here and there with each show because it is an ongoing issue right now and I don't know what you guys think because I don't think I have pulled our audience directly since all right if you've watched the show you probably know where we stand on this and you might already have a pre-existing opinion on this as well but I tried to phrase this as neutrally as possible net neutrality rules are in place right now because the FCC classifies Internet service providers as common carriers under title 2 of the Telecommunications Act which was initially from I believe 1934 or something like that there's lots of arguments well let's not just get into that yet anyway so here's your responses that you think they should stay in place those rules in place force is peas to to maintain net new child you treat all packets as they're traveling across the internet equally some people think those rules should be rolled back and that they shouldn't be regulated as title to common carriers and then of course they have a third option which if you're not familiar or you don't really care because maybe you don't care maybe you maybe you're gonna skip this part maybe you're going down into the video's description hoping someone who's done time steps for this point so you can jump to the next end that's fine that's totally fine the fact if you're even watching this show right now it means you should care though that's true if you're watching anything on the Internet we're doing an email so the reason I bring this up more specifically today is because in one week Wednesday of next week on July it's both there is being organized an internet wide day of action to save net neutrality what are we gonna do how does it work there's lots of different things that you can do this link is in the description for battle for the Netcom which is the central organizing body that's putting this all together but there's tons and tons of participants the participants include Amazon Netflix Kickstarter github pornhub reddit's port hubs therefore we got a point those that this list has been getting longer and longer funnier dies on there I fix it probably lots of companies who do business in some way shape or form or another on the internet who hopefully maybe you've even worked with before and think are good companies right - maybe if the people who are doing stuff behind these companies also think that net neutrality is a good thing then maybe that is something to consider this website also has a quick rundown of what net neutrality is which I've already kind of mentioned so I won't repeat its title two of the Communications Act why it is important as far as maintaining equality for the bits of inert data that are traveling to and fro across all of the internet and the series of tubes that it is connected with what's going to happen on July 12th which is a variety of things you might have websites that have blackouts you might have internet users and people who are just being a little bit more active in communicating about it just trying to have sort of organized swell of information spreading about this in general because that seems to be the problem right now as a lot of people really understand this fully I don't really see what's going on or see it's being pushed as a partisan issue or see being pushed as an issue about government regulation because there's a lot of people who don't like government regulations and you know and I sympathize with that to some degree I think there's a lot of government government regulations that are stupid but I also think there's points when companies have a little bit too much control a little bit too much freedom to do whatever the heck they wants and if there's a classic use case classic points where you can say look at this happening right now Internet service providers would be one of those they almost universally have some of the worst ratings as far as customer feedback goes because a lot of the times in the United States you don't even have more than one choice as far as where you get your internet from so you I treat your customers well if there's if they have no other option to go to like so yeah the people who are pushing for this all seem to be in a position to greatly benefit from it because if you're an internet service provider and you have a monopoly on the people who you're providing your internet to and then let's say you have a deal with some publication or some content creation site let's say there were multiple YouTube's or whatever and you have a deal with YouTube a and you set up something with them so that all of their contents you can say hey all of my subscribers can get that content from from YouTube a and there okay cool now we can get that content but then later because net neutrality rules aren't in effect you say all right now all that other concepts on the internet and now you got to pay more if you want that we're gonna put that stuff on a higher tier of payment plan that you and I have to pay for and pretty much do that or you can't access that part of the internet anymore it'll be like cable like sort of premium subscription channels like how you have to pay X like you can buy the cable package but then you can also do add-ons right if you want HBO if you want to watch Game of Thrones or like Silicon Valley you have to pay extra just for HBO I mean that's one of the reasons why I think most of us nowadays like at least the people watching this show and me and Paulie we are on the internet more so than we are on TV when it comes to like consuming content because of the way the model works on the internet versus cable but net neutrality if that goes away you're basically adopting the TV model onto the internet which is the reason we left TV in the first place so and that's why it's important yeah and what what it's it's basically it's allowing that to happen and there's a lot of people who say like oh these rules don't need to be in place because the Internet service providers can be trusted to do you know they can be trusted to handle it themselves and that's really what the ISPs will say is like we don't need regulation it's a free market economy everything will work itself out and you know every every you know free market every everything's gonna be fine in the end but the problem is that's sorry again I got distracted briefly um it's well yeah squirrel this is this is why I'm trying to discuss this earlier rather rather than later I'm worried for my half of the show Oh God why do you have anything serious to talk about in your house no no that's probably true I'll be fine we had a last week we had a great about aetherium that was way too late in the show yes I apologize all right let's get back to it that so so what is going on right now and what can anyone do about this if you've never heard of this before so right now there is a what it's called a notice of proposed rulemaking that is open at the FCC and they're taking comments on it so people can go to the FCC's website and by going through a series of forums you can say hey I'm this person can enter your personal information say like I am in favor of you know title to classification because I think that neutrality is important or like I think net neutrality sucks and you know you should roll back and get rid of those rules that's how it's made but the issue is that there has been according to a lot of the research that's been going on about a lot of the websites involved there's been a lot of abuse going on with that system if you go to the website go FCC yourself calm which was set up by John Oliver and the people over at the show called last week last week tonight that will take you directly to that forum so you can fill it out and there's certainly plenty of for letters that have been set up by people who are in favor of keeping net neutrality rules that have gone out and the people have used because people like what do I say and like I just use the statement you can put it put it there but now there have been a few more has been a bit more research done on it and techno crystalline Techdirt has an article right now basically saying that there's maybe some issues with the FCC comment system going on first off it's gone down at sort of weird times there were suspected DDoS attacks I but that seems to have gone by the wayside but analysts are suggesting that up to 40% of the roughly 5 million comments have gotten 5 million comments on this so far but roughly 40% are coming from a bot that uses the same exact anti net neutrality set statement on everything it's this it's the exact same statement every time damn box up to 40 percent to 5 million is a lot that's that's that's like to uh that's like 2 million yeah to me any of those right now there's some new reports going on because the information that's submitted on that is sort of publicly available so people can can access it also the information that you submit if you use your name and address and everything it is publicly available so too bad that in minds although that's somewhat important because there's also been a lot of people who have been going in parsing those things looking at specifically those suspected BOTS submitting comments that have that same exact statement going in each one seeing the information with the people that's been provided contacting those people and those people like I have no idea what this is so there's a lot of evidence that there has been a lot of personal information stolen from people that's being used for this comment submitted in other people's names comments submitted by dead people and that kind of thing and there's also a lot of a lot of sort of crosstalk you going on I will say because there are articles like this around this is from the fiscal times why our kids will thank us for rolling back net neutrality this article is clearly aimed at older people because it's like talking about our kids the article is clearly clearly anti net neutrality the article does not go into anything specific as far as modern discussion of net neutrality it uses some very tired arguments like Hello the title to the 1934 Communications Act talking about how like why should the Internet be governed over by something that was made in nineteen nineteen thirty four I don't know we have lots of stuff that's governed by the Titans of the Telecommunications Act of 1934 it's it's it's just a term it's a terrible article yeah I don't want to go into it too much I'm mad just like thinking about it yeah and it's it's I don't want to look at the article but if I compares people who are who are for net neutrality to Luddites and basically sounds like it's it's a it's anyway it's it's a stupid article it's written by James bra hole who is a research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University which is basically a locus on the board Charles Koch it's this is a think-tank that's funded by the Koch brothers will have lots of money and anyway I don't get to sidetrack too but there's a lot of stuff going on on the Internet to sort of spread misinformation about this so this is why the day of action is important to get more information that is more accurate at about this and also to communicate to people who might not know otherwise so if you have people who have no idea what net neutrality is and they start asking you especially on the July 12th when suddenly they have their favorite website has a message that they don't understand what's going on here hopefully some of the things we've said have helped make it a little bit more clear to you guys yeah and I hope we've treated this subject fairly too because it's very important for the future of the internet and for people who want to be able to do creative things on the Internet to start small and get big and not have several large companies that are largely controlling the transfer of information from point A to point B stupid caught others yeah - so uh okay I read moving on to the news now well this was theoretically a swordfight segment so I did want to see what people have to say about this one the circles are where people stand all right so we have 77 percents yeah we cater to smart people the same place you're all smart we got 30 percent who think they should be rolled back ISP shouldn't be regulated Charles we have 11% to are not familiar with it so it seems like the vast majority of you guys are definitely in favor of net neutrality rules for people who voted against it I wish we could sit down and have a conversation back and forth and discuss it a little bit more in depth but for now we definitely need to move on because shows do meet hour and a half each will do meet up or that's all we do we just talked about neutrality but yeah I'm do it tomorrow okay we're going to check news yeah News News News News News all right what do you got for us today Paul we're still on time right yeah well we got like donations Oh donations are right so maybe I can roll through these pretty quickly then okay all right so starting off with this kind of random story we've talked a lot about self-driving cars and automation and that kind of thing this is the first self-driving grocery delivery van Leuven look subotica this is in Greenwich London in the UK the van is called a cargo pod it's developed by ox potica which is an autonomous system startup spun off from Oxford University it was rapidly constructed they say from an off-the-shelf electric vehicle drivetrain a wheelbase it's got to light our sensors about the wing mirrors three cameras about the front bumpers three cameras at the back and inside the dashboard there's a fairly standard Intel Core i7 computer which there's actually pictures of although they had to pixelate it they wouldn't let them see that wreck actual picture that's inside interesting but the talkingest Technica article by the way from by Sebastian Anthony and he actually ordered some food from the company Okada which is the world's largest online on the only supermarket which must be more of a EU thing or your Europe thing I guess cuz I don't think they're I don't know if they're in the US I know but you'll notice there is a driver so that's yeah there's I mean he's not actually driving he doesn't drive it the cars this passenger is autonomous it goes around itself it's controlled by an iPad that's wired directly into the PC onboard via a USB plug so not quite into the wireless technology yet the autonomous driving software isn't perfect which is why it has a steering wheel pedals a big red emergency stop button the guy who drives it says that he it's mostly been ok but there's been a couple times and like people just like you know randomly here in front of it or something like that then he has had to you know make use of the fact that he's there the article doesn't mention whether that dude is going to continue to be there whether he's just there until the software figures everything out right it can be relatively trusted to to go to go on and do everything by itself hmm but yeah the the trick will he ordered the stuff it rolls up you push a button on the side it also wasn't very clear as far as identification or whatever like if there's not a dude there you know like if you need a special scan thing or something or like a code to enter and box opens up you get groceries so you actually go up to it and pay with like ethic with a tablet though you've already ordered you already ordered it I see you've already ordered online and it just cruises over to yeah and then it rolls over and then it's got little little containers where your box of groceries is and then you just grab it gotcha huh so holds very much is coming yeah well I mean it's it's a small vehicle it's made for a fairly densely populated somewhat urban area this is part of the trial period for Gateway the Greenwich automated transport environments hmm which is possibly an area of this I'm guessing I don't know the details on that it sounds like an area of the city where they're trying to set up for more automation for for deliveries and stuff like that interesting I can see this being a hot target for homeless people I can feel like homeless people just like pushing it over cuz it's pretty small yeah and just like right in cheaper food in there I'm hungry this is especially if that guy goes away I mean first of all that guy's gonna be out of a job if they improve the software anything well if the guys got to be out of a job it's point anyway right I mean there's some so I mean I got otherwise what's the point of making the whole thing what do you do for a living I'm a driver for a driverless car okay I sit there I'm gonna get fired and I just fall asleep any day I walk up and get their food I don't know it's pretty - yeah completely urban area I'm not positive if we have any viewers from the UK who actually around Greenwich I'm at least hopefully pronouncing it properly Greenwich good itch bridge I know that from Mary Poppins the whole world takes its time from Greenwich Greenwich they say it takes its time from Admiral boom how do you just know whines I know you're nerd random things stick in my head dork all right quick mention here of a eks m dot - nvme heatsink for next generation form factor SSDs look at that sometimes you water cool does your SSD get too hot yeah it's like weird is it weird even corner fittings seriously k just one fitting so yeah it looks pretty cool it looks clips on let's get a rigid heatsink pretty low profile ek logo there of course as all ek products has available and a nickel or black finish compatible with all single sided type 22 ATM got to nvme SSDs that are 22 millimeters wide and eight millimeters long it does have a front plate and a back plate though so here's here's an example of two of them on an msi board sexy which protects it looks pretty nice and either color so there's a 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just a hey penny hey I don't understand a little bit more even was saying just since it's your alright since your sense makes sense it does make sense hahaha I sense dude Swift tech has a new for a limited time fully customizable CPU water block here it is here it is right there this is the Apogee SKF block and for a limited time you can customize yours so you'll be able to mix and match the components that are on there so you can see there's different finishes as well as different inserts here I don't what that insert does I think it's just an axe making led in there yeah looks looks like it's just an accent but um you'll notice here at the end there's a bunch of different of the the so you got chrome white chrome gold matte gold rose gold rose gold match with your iPhone red silver black blue green and magenta and then also the swift tech logo which pops in there too can be various different colors so for right now a limited time although I don't think it says win that limited time ends possibly when presents they're 95 bucks you can pre-order now and it's an entirely new cooling engine made of densely packed fins that are less than a hundred twenty five microns thick super thin super thin water channels if you want a water block maybe maybe check that out alright two more quick mentions here and I'm gonna do these really quick because they're at the end toshiba has just announced seven hundred and sixty eight gigabit 3d qlc manned flash memory quad level cell and the big surprise here is the programmer ace the endurance so yeah these are the first-ever NAND flash memory chips to future qlc quadruple level cell BICS architecture the chips as mentioned are 768 Giga bits that's 96 gigabytes in capacity per chip and of course they can put multiple chips on an SSD or something like that 64 layer three demons and the target programmer eight cycles is 1000 which is pretty close to the endurance of TLC manflesh triple level so that's one of the things that sort of seems to get worse and worse as you go from like single SLC to to two bits per cell three bits per cell four bits per cell is endurance tends to fall off its counter balanced by the fact that you have more more cells to write to so it it does load balancing or we're leveling I'm sorry yes and it spreads the rights out but a thousand is much more similar to what Aidan's expected TLC so you're not going to suddenly be seeing a big drop-off in endurance here so that's kind of cool they're not sure how Toshiba is doing this and as you can so to see in an image here as you go to the different versions SLC only needs to manage two different voltage profiles for a single cell whereas MLC needs for TLC needs eights and QC needs 16 so it's pretty crazy the increased density as as far as you know how many bits are going and into each cell but yeah cool hopefully there will be products based on that soon one last story this was a sent on Twitter from prophecies the prophecies today micron has denied reports that their fab 2 has closed down after a major malfunction this is an oc-3 Gidon net article there's some issues right now with the NAND and dram production and supply and that's why a lot of like SSD price has gone up and there's you know like Apple likes to go and buy a bunch of it and all that kind of stuff so any difficulties with production are it's not a good thing and apparently I didn't catch any of these but they're a bunch of rumors going on about fab - fab - by the way produces about 5.5 percent of the world DRM websites had reported that production at the facility had stopped after a major incident contaminated both wafers and equipment which would be a very difficult thing because these are all users are usually like you can see in the picture here kind of clean room environments they can't have any contamination going on in there and that would be a serious setback for something like a major fab like this micron issued a statement that confirms that there was a small incident not a major one did take place at fab 2 but that it was not a nitrogen leak as had been reported and that it was recovered from quickly so hopefully there was no actual long-term delay in production because that could adversely impact the RAM prices and we don't want any of that nonsense already high enough yeah so any reports to that effect or false thanks for offices for sending that over as could have gone under your the other segment of the it could have feels like one of those stories where like you know websites I'm not gonna mention any names but certain ones that are more prone to blowing things out of proportion might have just snagged this up and be like what could this mean maybe they did like I said I didn't catch any of the stories on this but I wouldn't even surprised if if you read about that yep alright let's quickly run down some donations we did get a collection here thanks to all you guys who did that turner short automatic Matt coming in first 5 bucks 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that's hot it's not that bad I don't know I don't know it doesn't it feels fine to me so I'm okay with it wait your thermostat was visible in a video or something and people are coming up yeah like a day the shot with me walking carrying the computer and you can see the thermostat that I am maybe one is pretty toasty and keep it at 78 here it's really not that bad maybe you get better ventilation in your house you need some one-story house too so yeah probably no it's 81 and I'm usually walking around in like shorts and sandals yes I mean that helps me stay cooler all right Matt Grimes 50 freaking dollars thank you Matt ripped by PCIe cover off my extension cable on my micro ATX lammle pc 0 6s while cleaning 85 bucks to replace it geez should I replace the cable I get a PC 0 7 s X go full ATX and build a new system current to z97 4690k 1070 SC @ my pc stay in blue gosh that's a really expensive replacement for a PCIe expansion extension cable I guess if you have to buy it from Lee Ann Leith and that's probably why it's so expensive I don't know I don't know if you could get something else where I don't know if it's I'm not as familiar with that case I don't know if it's a custom design more or something like that but yeah I don't see if you could find a replacement elsewhere or anything you just deleted sorry it's the wall mountable one oh it's the x1 no you burned many I did or that micro ATX no no it's a bigger one no it's the more like full size okay wall mounted one but I you know like you should be able to buy riser cable or like extension cables for PC a cheaper than 85 I mean if you're in the market for an upgrade I mean you got a z97 and a 4690k so you're not too outdated or anything like that but I mean if you're in the mood and you want to get a little bit more performance than you and you're feeling it then sure go fully ETX but I feel like you might have other options besides just shelling out 85 bucks for that replacement piece yeah but yeah Lee only cases are expense look on eBay maybe have some yeah possibly Thank You vet all right a couple more Damon boys $5.00 will we be at LTX the Linus tech tips Expo meetup thing we're not planning to go at this points don't think so yeah sorry yeah it's in Canada it's far it's a very far I have to fly up there and everything be a weekend thing that's it's a lot of time we're need time just to see Linus talk to people yeah - is they can steal our trophies back oh yeah all right let's go all right okay thanks Damon but yeah we're not currently planning to go that star Lou finally with a two-pound donation and I 525 50k still worth it is that a thing 25 50 K who is that the one that didn't have the IGP you another unlocked I five brothers won 16 gigs of RAM for $50 that's a great deal forgetting all that and it's all functional that's a good deal that's a good deal that's perfectly functional I mean I don't know what that I don't any 550 K there's a 2500 K at 2,600 ka-27 in these oh there is a 25th of DK this is the Sandy Bridge it's quad-core I'm guessing I think this yet no I GP I was right no I GPU yeah so there's no I GPU yeah I mean 50 bucks that's a that's a perfectly functional viable systems unlocked if you can overclock it you could probably game fine on that at 1080 hopefully the motherboards like z77 or z68 and not like H or B something yeah make sure that you make sure the motherboard is also an unlocked motherboard which would be P 67 or z68 make sure if it's a P 67 motherboard that's not a really really early P 67 motherboard cuz they have that SATA bug mm-hmm but let's see 77 work do ya see 77 would also be functionally alright that is all for comments we have a couple really quick shout outs for people who have bought stuff in the store Johnson's I have to Johnson's dose to Johnson no one from Joe from New York thank you so much Joe from New York Joel grabbing that thumb screw of the t-shirt actually a couple times thumb screw t-shirts thank you so much Joe I I have another one another one just came in Lance from Kansas that's from Kansas got the also a thumbs your shirt thanks so much Lance hey Johnson for you sir and finally James from Wisconsin with skiing got the English pub less thank you thank you so much James thank you for you I'm gonna fire off just one here Ryan Ryan Johnson T we're picking up a CPU cooler shirt thank you very much sir beautiful that is all for me alright thanks Ryan thank you the first half of the show if you guys want to see the second half it's on Kyle's channel if you're watching live we'll be live on that in just a second if you're on Twitch stare at where you are if you're watching in the future the link to Cal staff is in the description so please click on that also if you don't hit the thumbs up button that'd be sweet too thanks for watching this week guys oh and if there's a wonderful person who wants to do timestamps you you we love you forever okay I'm gonna
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