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technology probably the best technology show even though we're not good at technology we do it every Tuesday evening 5:30 p.m. Pacific time this is episode number 112 and we actually already have been streaming for well over an hour the first half of episode 112 was on Kyle's channel which is called bigwig bring your note cards have no cuts fine we're fine first half was on Kyle's channel which is bit with link is in the description and that was the sober house so click on that if you're interested also we do drink a few drinks of the beer and alcohol enabled variety here on the show why is there still I'm pouring it very slowly so that it's the perfect amount of head we drink a few beers giving you really good we may curse and use foul language to bear that in mind if you were if you're young and easily offended sorry about that and yes when I was supposed to do before we started streaming was fixed a bit rate because the bitrate on the the streaming software we use xsplit is still 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little bit to you and talking about some of the variables they're not seriously though please don't please don't assume this is some sort of serious show or serious show and assume that we take not at all seriously and then we'll be talking about Intel because until continues to suck recently there's no other way to describe it really but look in a bad way yeah let's dive into our first segments though continuing from the first half which is the continuation of tech news but actually no never mind never mind about that first off if you want to buy stuff in our stores check that out pulsar we're not net Pulsar we're dotnet is my store shirts mugs and PEG glasses all good stuff buy it during the show we'll give you a shout out at the end of the show same with scale store which is bit wit dot tech slash store he also has shirts mugs pint glasses all good stuff bye-bye things all right back to news first article this is from tweek town this one was written by none other than our good friend Anthony over its week down hey friend of the show Johnson to you in a theory of mining is dead we've been talking about a theory of mining a lot in the past I don't know a month or so since graphics card prices have gone through the roof it's been very difficult to buy a GPU especially if you're looking at anything in the mid-range because people have been using them for cryptocurrency mining most significantly aetherium mining because it's a good way to make some money it was by a graphics card for 250 bucks you spend a couple months mining with it pay off your graphics cards price and then all the money you get from mining after that is profit your Brahman Anthony Anthony's done a lot of mining I know he's got a he's got a bit of a farm going he shared some pictures of it via it's week 10 articles as well as on Facebook and whatnots however there's a pretty big fluctuation in the market just in the past 24 hours and you can tell this is serious because it's at week 10 article and there's multiple pages look at this wait why don't they never do multiple pages it's like serious all right apparently I can't click on the drop down but there's multiple pages it's a four-page article and yeah sorry in the last 72 hours the difficulty of mining aetherium has increased pretty significantly there's some areas highlighted here this is the increase in difficulty of mining aetherium because it gets more difficult to mine the more people - the price as a result has dropped to a two-month low and what we're specifically talking about here is the Dagg increase so this this is time time in the bottom and the dag increases over here on the right and dag increases the level of difficulty that it that it takes two minor theorem hold on I'm going to close this bag stand for thank you for cueing me Kyle dag stands for directed a silic graph and aetherium a dag is created every epic epoch epoch every epoch uses a combination of algorithms the algorithm is that kind of the make the make up the basis of aetherium and then a new dad comes out and the bigger the dag is from my understanding the more of the GPU memory it uses up so the more difficult it makes it for for the GPUs to mine and please bear in mind that I haven't done much mining myself most of what I'm talking about here is from reading articles and everything like that so if you guys are hardcore miners and you feel like what we're saying is not exactly accurate I'm sorry but there's nothing we can do about it anyway um the dag has increased in waves throughout the first week of July and then and then there was a massive mountain like increase on July 11th you can see the chart sort of ramps up right here to 1.2 T and I don't know what 1.2 I have no idea what 1.2 T means it's not terabytes I don't think but I believe it is the size grants of the dag I don't know it beats me this is why I prefaced this was by the way we might have no idea what we're talking about also we've been tricking that makes everything okay so Anthony because he's super into this was following this very closely in the past 24 hours followed it as it bottomed out to the lowest price of one hundred and eighty three dollars and 39 cents and actually I have the current charts written right here on Coyne desk and this is this is this is up-to-date to the minute right now so here's where it started to drop off so this is the 11th of July you'll notice it actually hit a pretty low point here 1 96 97 there was a massive increase in the difficulty of mining and then it started to just fall off really really really significantly here over the past day bottomed out at about 183 39 but then it read back up right here so remember that it jumped back up right here as you read Anthony's article because it makes it kind of funny price jobs below 180 dollars us us on page four he points out that all crypto currencies are down not just I'm Gary him I'm sorry I'm getting a call from our good friend and moderator Nick are 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the only people who have been really watching have been the truth I advanced the only ones that have fans yep follow some Twitter screw the rest to get the links and all that good stuff okay alright let's go back to making fun Anthony you know Anthony points out here that all digital currency is hurting and again this is this article he wrote was about 12 hours ago maybe 12 to 18 hours ago when I actually posted up there here's a look at currents all digital currency this is on quayne market capcom and this actually is not like false buy any any in any way shape or form everything is down look at the seven-day look at the 24 hour look at the 1-hour everything is down there's a couple there's a couple that are maintaining you know to some degree a level of improvement but there's a lot of red on this chart there's a lot of red going on so there's certainly something going on in the wider markets when it comes to cryptocurrency in general and it's difficult to pinpoint what exactly the cause happens to be if you're Anthony though the world is coming to an end I'm saying I'm making I'm making and poking I'm hoping Anthony watches this because he's really not that reactive but I'm page 4 of his article he notes that all currencies are down on page 5 he despairs he says what to see what to expect this week he says bear in mind he also titled his article the theory of mining is dead so everything is hitting a new low and and you know right now it's it bottomed out it out for him at like 1 185 ish could we see below 150 in the next few days what about below 100 I feel like that's not a huge drop though from what what about below 50 from 220 to 180 we gotta remember the peak was 400 bucks about 400 bucks is where it ok max that at at least in the past couple months when it comes to when it was the most profitable can you mono can you mine multiple crypto currencies at once yes system in fact in fact there's I don't know the name of it off the top of my head but there are mining applications you can get that will just according to what the mining application thinks a mine whatever currency is gonna get you the most money at the time so that's you can do you know there's lots of ways that you can hold that cryptocurrency mine at least hopefully then his whatever system he's got set up hopefully just switched over to the next highest paying yeah thing which seems to be Bitcoin will obviously bitcoins in number one oh yeah Bitcoin the value has been number one for quite some time just because yeah it's valued so high but there's other ways of sorting this as well that you can look at so Bitcoin and aetherium are pretty high if they're in right now as if the filming of this is $189 and 84 why is Ripple number three when it's only point one seven dollars because right now this is being sorted by I don't know what this is being sorted by circulating supply oh wait I don't know I don't know how this is being sorted it's just number right here yeah a coin market Capcom I'm not sure how they how they sort these and how they determine and oh they're looking at market cap that's what they're looking at so depending on the number of coins that are out there on the market and the value of the coins of the market equals the market cap so Bitcoin has the highest market cap at 37 billion dollars right it theory amiss at 17 billion dollars ripples at six billion dollars we're gonna circulate in supply even though the price per ripple but I mean that's out of 38 what was it billion I mean cryptocurrencies are developed by people and they operate in different ways so this one is clearly operating in a certain in a way that the amount of mining that you do gets you a coin at a faster rate than than the other currencies so yeah it's it's all relative I guess is what I'm trying to say anyway though let's move on so yeah point being here the regardless of the pricing changes and fluctuations of aetherium which can be very volatile the difficulty increase remains the same so it is now more challenging to - theorem so the amount of money that you invest in getting an rx 580 or an RX 570 are 480 or whatever using - mine is now less valuable than it was for because the amount of that work that that GPU can do to get a coin is now more than it was before because more people have been mining and that's just sort of the ITER ative way that's cryptocurrencies work it gets more challenging the more people - so who knows how that so this is all gonna play out we don't know we don't know how long the current cryptocurrency mining craze is going to last hopefully at some point it drops off and there's a lot of GPUs on the market - people can buy for pretty low prices at least if you're looking at it from the perspective of a PC gamer yep all right the next pixel excel was sort of a bit of a buzz day about this this article is actually from the verge originally though it was Android police who broke this and it's basically a picture of what we can relatively reasonably presume is the next pixel exactly compared to mine there it is all mines own on Excel but still more or less I mean I have the excel so I can give you guys a side-by-side Android police according to the verge has a very strong track record when it comes to releasing early information about smartphones but there is a chance this might not be the finalized design of the pixel Excel 2017 or pixel - Excel or whatever the hell they decide to call it it does appear to be taller at 6 inches tall and it is slimmer so it's not quite as wide it has a two-to-one aspect ratio for the display like the LG G 6 and it seems to have only one lens here on the back if you look at the new dual camera so they had not the dual camera configuration although the lens assembly does also seem to be larger I don't know what we can do what seems to be larger the lens assembly like if you look at the actual it's kind of so yeah I forgot my yep it's my tiny thing in the corner there is my pixel XL and you can see the cameras are up here I'm sorry up here is my pixel non XL you'll also note that the glass part of this comes down to below where the fingerprint reader is where as if you look at this picture the glass comes down not quite as far I think I print readers below it I'm okay with that what's the glass I saw at least a few pictures people where they has a glass panel on the back shattered and I'm due to a trap or something like that so that's a bear in mind there's a watermark on this so this isn't something that's like embedded into the the finish on the back or anything like that's it this does seem to be probably an aluminum casing on the back here it looks just like it's got kind of a rounded edge here along the side the bezels are definitely smaller I don't like that it doesn't seem like there's front facing speakers on it it's definitely the thing I would have liked to have the most on the pixel the speaker is positional and you always have to have it kind of kept in your hands to get good sound out of it and it's just not the greatest what else what else about this yeah I heard there were like squeezable sides is that a thing not sure about that okay yeah I don't even know these these look like fairly standard buttons on the side are you talking oh I totally forgot to bring it up the the red the red cell phone is that what you're talking about with the finger baby finger grips yeah maybe yeah sorry we forgot to I forgot to add that to today's list of things to talk about there was a red camera about a week ago was announced there's only a couple pictures of it marques Brownlee did a video I yeah you guys can should watch that we'll do a much better job of explaining it to me well yeah so yeah all in all the pixel XL I mean design-wise looks looks pretty clean Oh maybe or maybe nice we're talking about the HTC eleven has squeezable side of you eleven I'm not sure I haven't heard of that one the you eleven you know the red phone yes is what we were talking about yeah that's the thing yeah we don't have that listed on today's actual discussion from my understanding it was mainly just that picture but I don't know if there was more information that came out it on it in the past few days and I have not researched it directly I'm pretty happy with my pixel I really like my pixel as well so I don't think I'll feel super outdated when the pixel to Excel or non Excel comes out I might get it to make a video on it but I don't know yeah I'm still on the fence about the videos on phones they're kind of hit or miss yeah I mean cuz cuz I don't do them that often so people don't look for them from me right so true yeah YouTube probably sees it too like you're a PC guy exactly no one's gonna watch your stupid mobile push your video alright I have a strap hold that I'm linking in chat right now it goes along with this story so if you guys are interested did you post in both iridium in yeah I pushed the both so should be good so go ahead and vote on that if you if you want the oculus has cut I'm sorry oculus heads cut to the price of the rift again for the second time this year 399 dollars not including the oculus touch pads that's being demonstrated by this this picture here with the student noise yeah so I goes did a vlog overnight last night's Rifkin touch for two bucks but my my question that I'm asking you guys to answer is you know VR VR hasn't exactly taken off there's you know it's it's niche still for sure but there's still speculation that it might take off and what are the barriers to it taking off so my question for you guys is now that this is 400 bucks do you think that VR might take off a little bit more with a lower cost to entry this is for a limited time it's part of the summer of rift promotion that oculus is doing it also includes discounts on oculus games there was speculation about this that there is some sort of problem or you know some issue that they're trans have workaround like oh we need more and sales haven't been good so we need to cut the price so that we sell more of them or whatever oculus said no that's not the case we were just waiting to drop the price until we had more games out there so that there were more options for people to play when they actually got an oculus rift so maybe that's true maybe it's not in any case this price will be available for six weeks so roughly five six weeks from now if you're interested so it's not like you need to buy it right now if you want to get this price but it doesn't seem like it's gonna stay this much also might have something to do with the potential launch of an oculus rift - there's no further information on that it's just speculation based on a lot of discussion like when rift first launched and there's speculation on how long they thought the rift is a platform would actually last and everything now this is a pretty significant price drop for something like this as far as a specific niche gaming product the article from the verge compares it to video game consoles which usually take a little bit longer before prices drop off especially something like this which is a 50% price reduction over the initial cost of the rift which was 600 bucks they said video game consoles usually take an average of three to four years before this much of a before you see this much of a price drop right whereas with the rift it's been more like a year yeah when did it actually launch yeah it's about a year it's July now they're supposed to launch earlier last year and it didn't and it was delayed and most yeah yeah better year ago I don't remember when it actually came out but right anyway yeah I guess let's see what you guys think about this one we haven't given you a ton of time but your anytime you're all quickly yeah everyone so snappy very you got a couple hundred people who have voted but yeah so it does seem like there is interest in VR it's just that that barrier to entry is it's pretty significant you needed to spend probably about fifteen hundred bucks to get a viable VR system up running if you're talking about the cost of the computer that's the as well as the headset yeah so even not even just the money I think it's just the fact that like the date like where we live like right now like the society we live in there are not many high-end gaming or even like desktops like not many households have desktops in them like they used to like like a gaming system with the recently paragrafix was very neat desktop I feel like the average household in America now like doesn't even know what a desktop is like it's although they have a desktop but it's like over in the corner and no one's used it for a couple of years because yeah that's like five it's like five ten years old and they're all on their tablets their smartphones you know it or laptops and so I feel like that's the biggest barrier to entry not just not just the price of a desktop but just the fact that people have to now seek out buying a desktop and then most likely it's gonna be a prebuilt for them they're not gonna like build their own most people again are not gonna build their own system just for VR they're probably gonna buy a prebuilt but they're not gonna know where to look they're gonna be like well what kind of specs do I need what are the minimum requirements what does that even look like what all these numbers and model SKUs mean I feel like that's like the hugest barrier to entry and I just pulled up an article just like didn't take me much time to find it at all Sony's psvr the PS the PlayStation VR has nearly quadrupled vive sales in q1 20:17 according to super data which just kind of reaffirms this this fact that like psvr is taking off way more than vias even though the functionality and like the games offered might not be nearly as innovative as what's offered on vibe simply because people at this point are just so much more in tune with like a gaming console than they are a DIY or pre-built desktop PC like desktop PCs are really like it's ironic too because desktop PCs are like the cream of the crop when it comes to technological advancement in terms of graphic fidelity and just smooth gameplay but at the same time it's like the elite it's like the most underground niche in like technological society like everyone's just gaming on like a xbox one ever and waiting for the VR to introduce itself on a game console rather than them seeking out a desktop - to get a higher experience maybe I'm just talking out of my ass completely right now because I probably have been no I mean that's that's a significantly higher uptake in sales on Drupal and that's insane and think about all the the news articles that we come by like just on a daily basis how many of them are about psvr versus five like they're all more at more or less about live in oculus because that's gonna give you the most of the time the better experience but yet the sales say otherwise because people are so familiarized with consoles already and it's just easier to buy psvr oh it just works with this console that I already have as opposed to trying to figure out what sort of desktop PC I haven't owned a desktop PC in 10 years how didn't even know these things still existed like that's yeah I think the hardest thing to wrap your mind around is that there are so many gamers out there in our country that that are not PC literate at all like we think of gamers like when we think of gamers like we think of like a PC enthusiast who knows their shape he knows how to build their own system most gamers are have no idea about when it comes to PC desktops they're on consoles they're on handhelds for me that's for me that's that's ok no that's totally ok cuz like in it I'm a singer I'm ok with the PC being niche as long as it is still big enough to get enough sales that you know they keep making graphics cards gaming GPUs and everything like that mm-hmm and it's just sort of that you know there's there's people who love to play games and if they get to the point where they're playing games on a console or something like that and then I start they hear something about like oh you know I just got my psvr and like oh well actually the first VR thing was it was a vibe or whatever like that and they're like oh there's this other option out there that has high resolution and you know can play at a higher frame rates and has other capabilities and a wider library of games that are available you know that's just sort of that introduction into gaming on the PC that I think people can get excited about so this for me is good news because it means that VR is not something that people were like oh flash in the pan like you know it was something that happened and I Cal VR like it just it was just kind of like got over it pretty quickly it's something that people are interested in it's just something that needs to be made a little bit more easy to access for people who don't have 1500 bucks to spend on a gaming PC and VR system the point of the article made about this in particular was that you can feasibly get somewhat bare-bones ish but you can feasibly get a VR system up and running for closer to a thousand dollars now yeah with this price fear as opposed to like fourteen fifteen hundred bucks plus that you'd have to spend a little bit on before but you know as GPU prices hopefully come down and also hopefully the prices of the headsets which you can definitely expect that they come out with second generations of the headsets at some point then yeah that's exciting yeah right I have I have to switch something really quick this isn't face-off I gotta update this I meant to update this before we started what's the name of that VR technology where it only renders the pixels you're looking at and it says off to the other ones around it what's the pulled again you know what I'm talking about though yeah I know what you're talking about I don't don't remember the name of it chat please help me out for some reason I was like thinking about that and I'm like what's it called Oh like foliation or no Felicia yes is Felician it's not Felician halation something similar to that though it's an nvidia thing I'm crazy I have like a bunch of Nvidia PDFs that they've sent me with their marketing stuff and I bet it's um one of those yeah Feliciano Feliciano vrdr fellatio yes okay thanks for net watch yes it is a segment where we talk about the internet affiliate it and watch ated fo v ated ob ated i think you're a movi ated rendering so v8 and rendering god alright thank god fellatio rendering I see how someone's own fellatio survived so the shark I was in the same ball comes at least in the same ballpark Bovie aided rendering the more you know okay there it is there it is people know more things in the memberid know it all right carry on Paula okay the e FF the Electronic Frontier Foundation has released their who has your back list Alyssa they've been doing for a few years now which basically talks about and I'm sorry it analyzes and evaluates how companies deal with user data when government entities come seeking it if you want to be private online and you want to deal with companies who will respect your privacy yes then this list perhaps is something you should be looking at couldn't you just get into VPN what a VPN work essentially the same no okay no because it doesn't matter if you use the VPN to access Amazon you gave em as on your information and if the government says hey Amazon what's the information of that guy who bought that thing and they give you their information doesn't matter when they get used I guess you're right so yeah that's not really concerned um anyway the full list the full list is here it's also linked in the video's description or on e FF dot org and who has your back government data request for 2017 the top rating companies for 2017 include Adobe you can see at the top here five stars misters across the entire thing as well as credo mobile Dropbox lyft Pinterest sonic uber wicker and WordPress lips got five of five stars here where's uber uber also got five of five stars here so you can look across the whole list that's fairly easy to check out ATT Comcast of course Wow yes surprisingly shooting lowest rated companies companies have got a one star where Comcast AT&T t-mobile and Verizon what do you know the four major Internet service providers would have expected the companies that have like the worst customer feedback ratings in the United States happen to also get one star ratings on here as you're days I think privacy even t-mobile who's like we're t-mobile and we're different and be like feathers no you're the same same bullsh I'm surprised that Facebook has such a high rise in four out of five yeah Facebook has improved I think since they started doing this list actually so yeah I'm cool with that Comcast AT&T t-mobile Verizon got one star Amazon and whatsapp got two stars so all you guys who are like Amazon Prime danbad someday what do you think of them with with your privacy information a new category that was added this year is stands up to NSL gag orders which are the National Security Letters which if they're presented to accompany basically mean that companies being forced to hand over data to the government and there's a built-in gag which means the company can't even publicly say hey by the way our information was just sent over to the government because they asked for it they can't even tell people that it's even been requested hmm so whether or not people comply with that or the businesses comply that that is one of the stars on this list as well as following industry-wide best practices telling users about government data requests promising not to sell out users or just having some sort of written thing that says hey people who use our service we're not going to sell you out it's good to have standing up to the NSL gag orders of course and per-user public policy and reform 702 and if you click the link of this video's description that goes to this page you can click on those links in them to read a little bit more information about them for now though let's move on net neutrality big issue right now we've been talking about it pretty regularly on the live show and just want to say that it is a big deal and tomorrow is July 12th and net neutrality has a day of action and AT&T is joining in what do you think AT&T joins the net new taut neutrality Pro despite suing to block nature yes despite despite that I don't food the FCC in the past to attempt to block net neutrality rules AT&T is attempting to tell people yeah we're part of this too and then we are in favor of preserving and advancing an open Internet but their idea of what an open Internet is very different than perhaps what your idea of an open Internet is so here's the situation right now the FCC has situated Internet service providers so that they are classified as common carriers under title 2 of the Telecommunications Act of 1930 1934 which allows the FCC to enforce net neutrality it is because of that classification that the FCC can say hey you can't throttle this website or tell them that they don't have access you can't slow down Netflix because you've determined that Netflix just using up too much of the data if you promise your customers that they have this amount of bandwidth for data you can't suddenly say like hey you're actually using that so we're gonna throttle you or throttle this website that's using that you're accessing that's using too much of that data yeah they should just provide you with the amount of bandwidth that you pay for Internet service providers like AT&T are like hey we're down with net neutrality we don't think that there should be throttling of different websites or something like that but they're not really standing behind their statements because what the FCC is trying to do right now is roll back the protections that people currently have that are currently in place a TNC when they were first put in place in 2015 when they first classified ISPs as title to common carrier carriers AT&T sued them obviously they were against this so where whereas AT&T as well as a sheet PI and the FCC will say we're in favor of net neutrality they need to actually put their money where their mouth is and have some sort of plan in place to enforce this because what they're talking about right now is removing the rules that allow the FCC to enforce it but there's nothing that's being presented is like and instead here's the thing that all the ISPs will sign this promises not to be assholes or whatever like that they're not even doing anything like that yeah all this thing it's like there shouldn't be regulation in whatever like that and if you're in the position where you think we'll like regulations are bad or whatever I'm just like if what happened in 2014 and I bet I bet I could pull it up right now but in 2014 because Netflix had become so popular I asked bees lo and behold and suddenly started throttling them and and and yeah it sucked I'm trying there's a specific thing I'm gonna try to find ur it now so I mean what I'm wondering is does AT&T using this as sort of like a marketing a marketing thing like yearning me like they're trying to pretend like they're on our side when really they have ulterior motives and they're just as corrupt and evil as the other ISPs yeah but they're trying to pretend like they're one of us to get to get either gain or trust or you know it seems like a marketing stunt to me because it really is not there it is in their best interest sorry this isn't neutrality so the oatmeal the oatmeal dot-com slash blog slash Net underscore neutrality has a nice comic where he goes over this whole thing he specifically did this as a response to something Ted Cruz said but this very clearly also shows what happens in 2014 as all of the major ISPs 18t Verizon all started to throttle Comcast's providers as well Comcast as a black line right here Netflix service suddenly started to tank across the board this is direct action by Internet service providers doing something that requires net neutrality to prevent it happening if you don't want Internet service providers to be able to do this for your connection to Netflix or whatever other high you know whatever the service you connect to that happens to use a lot of data that your SP sounds like hold on that data that we promised that you paid for suddenly we don't want to provide you anymore because you're actually using it if you don't want that to be able to happen the net neutrality is the means by which the FCC can prevent internet service providers from doing that so hmm yeah sketchy man all that is to say oh no I just I just closed just close to my next story instead of there were a couple of providers up there that did not throw out all the speeds in that instance though yeah cool seven their yeah is there I mean we're talking bustle we're mainly talking about the large Internet service providers that have enough customers and enough monopolies in a lot of areas to basically throw their weight around and do whatever they want to make as much money as they possibly can okay going back to the day of action which is happening tomorrow has now been joined by Google and Facebook javis tech giant's yes so they're now giving the net neutrality campaign tomorrow a boost Google and Facebook have not released any details as to how there will be supporting this but I would assume that would you go to the home page there might be some information there oh yeah a little green man sorry thanks Chad and just for any of you guys who are may be acting as disseminators of information if you have any family members who aren't familiar with this and tomorrow see some message on their favorite website and they come to you and they're like hey this website I just went to that I love has this message about net neutrality and I don't know what the heck they're talking about explain it to them this is what the day of action is about tomorrow is spreading this information and it means that people can understand and hopefully it means that phrases in such a way that people know that what really is in the best interest of everyone is that there's neutral communication between different internet that we all have different and we all have a website this pornhub that everyone has access to port that really is what it boils down to if you want to put it in the simplest terms to someone who wants to understand that neutrality you'd be like like pornhub yeah well imagine not having that anymore that sounds shitty what if you're interested Ryder partnered with a really crappy porn website and yeah like hey we only want people to access that porn website now because every time people go to that porn website yeah we get a bit of advertising money so we're gonna slow down all the other porn website yep so the people only really have the most incentive to go to that porn website but on that porn website all they've got is like you like Grandma porn you only have touched her yeah they just like you know short shorthand you on the clips like all the clips are like three minutes long it's like lemonparty like times a thousand yeah going on there and like who's interested in that like I'm gonna I'm gonna head come right when the videos ending who wants that nobody no one so yes not my world tomorrow there will be lots of people asking questions about why websites they go to have special information on them about net neutrality hopefully you guys if you're asked questions can help answer them this is reminiscent of the day in 2012 when the tech industry rebelled against the copyright bill known as SOPA and they altered and blacked out their web sites to help spread information and knowledge about it there's also a chance that a popular outcry could leak Congress or the White House to put pressure on a GTI and the FCC to reconsider the plan on net neutrality and yeah hopefully Kyle you're the hero we deserve great that's a great way to describe things so yeah shouldn't be allowed to streaming help support that guys thanks to all you have listened to us about it but um I think information is really important and I think free access to the information is incredibly important porn is information and if you want to put it in terms where it's where porn is what speaks you that's cool I think there's a I think there's a larger conversation beyond that as well but it all depends on who you're talking to and the best way to get your point across so however that happens to be trending trying to cater to our audience Paul no I agree you're probably doing a better job that I have for sure but all right let's move we believe in you checked we love you another segment which is gonna be hot and heavy hardware yeah this is a special edition of hot and heavy hardware intelligent intelligent and I want to say this is like this sort of neck of hot and heavy header cuz we're literally talking about hardware that is too hot but yeah overheating Edition but before we get it specifically into X 299 since that's what I was referring referencing there the Intel Pentium G 45 60 is a good CPU I've recommended it I imagine you maybe have as well which one the G 45 60 it is a Pentium CPU yep look here's the gamers Nexus has done extensive yeah testing on this chip it's only got two scores alright three killer yeah well they got two cores but some intel has with the Pentiums in the past couple lineups actually introduced hyper threading so it's got hyper threading so two cores four threads three Meg's of l3 cache up from to 3.5 gigahertz frequency KB Lake CPU architecture and $64 so cheap why not so very easy to recommend CPU for people who are building a budget system yeah intel has decided it sucks and they don't like what it's because it maybe with themselves because it can be with their i3 processors which cost costs more money so why would anyone buy an i at three processor when they can get 8:45 64 64 bucks the price to performance is really significantly skewed when you go up to the i3 level so Intel seeing that they have a popular process of the people like and are interested in buying and has a good price to performance metric has decided to limit the production of that CPU no yes of course what else could you possibly do kyle scale down production of the g 45 60 this is according to a report on digi worthy by the way so it's their fault if it's wrong scaling down production of a cpu like this would probably potentially I don't know for sure because I can't predict the future but knowing how economics work lead to pricing increases lead to the lack of availability of that processor potentially so the gravy train ride that was the 4560 that you can get for about 65 bucks apparently is over no the cheapest I three that you can get as a replacement is the I three 7100 cost almost twice as much at one hundred and seventeen dollars and has basically the same chip just friends a 3.9 gigahertz instead of 3.5 gigahertz so you're getting a couple has a Cu one hundred megahertz higher clock speed that's it yeah for double price for for roughly double the price yes that sounds unreason that sounds pretty stupid I'm gonna go with the $64 CPU well you would if you could buy it but apparently they're not gonna be available anymore and that's a poor decision on Intel's part at least that's my opinion let's continue hot and heavy hardware with the discussion all right so let's I'm gonna make this a compliment sandwich but in the reverse sandwiches the compliments in the middle and the crappy stuffs on the outside forget the lows in the middle we have this I nine 7900 X that has been overclocked to six point zero one gigahertz so yeah if you don't care too much about racing it's a little bit easier to get excited about the 7900 X because it is a thousand-dollar processor but it is very powerful it's ten core CPU the world record was set by Greek overclocker Sophos 1990 and as you can see he used a pink hair dryer which I think was pretty cool but yeah the 79 Hendrix was overclocked to 6.01 gigahertz on ln2 liquid-nitrogen it scored twelve thousand one hundred and eighty nine point five two and hardware bots prime benchmark which is the fastest ten core score in the world it is also the fastest single CPU system on that particular benchmark so it's only been surpassed by dual CPU Riggs probably Xeon based I would imagine to achieve that frequency it had a V core voltage of 1 point 6 volts which is pretty high if you're not using on something like Ellen 2 CPU multiplier was at 59 and Busbee was at 102 the Jeep I'm sorry the other hardware that was used which you can sort of see in this picture is the gigabyte X 299 SOC champion motherboard a kid of G scale Trident Z memory at 20 I'm sorry at 32 63 megahertz so also overclocked a 120 gig coarser Neutron SSD and of course her X 1500 eye power supply all that's led to that overclock and world records yay yay so given the right configuration 700 X can be pretty impressive but that's talking about a hardcore overclock were using Ellen - what about normal people what about normal people's are just you just get a 70 900 X and just plug it in and just want to use it you might have some challenges to deal with so I've been looking pretty closely at X 299 because I've been trying to get to the point where I can say well sure it's overpriced and sure it doesn't make that much sense for most people but it may be it's still the fastest thing that's out there and the fastest thing that's available mm-hmm but maybe that that's not always the case any soon links in the description one is for this article on Tom's Hardware just posted yesterday by Igor wass elec UI which is a four page article talking about the current state of X 299 as well as problems especially when it comes to overclocking so they did some significant amount of overclocking using they were testing the temperature of the vrm so the voltage regulators the power delivery going to the system as well as testing the CPU core temperature the 7900 X basically runs really hot even if you have a decent a io like even it's 240 like a 240 millimeter all in one column one cooler is like your baseline for a 70 900 X and it can't even get even I think about there JJ from asus is like even like the big ass knocked to a cooler like the air coolers from nock to a like they stole a challenge old rely on them because they're not gonna cut it like so it's almost like you need liquid cooling for something like this yeah now this article I also believe is a bit of a response for to their Bauer Bauer who posted a little over a week ago about the sort of X 299 vrm disaster as he described it which was referring specifically to attempting to overclock on X 299 with a series of different motherboards and the motherboards basically having a wide array of different reactions as far as the vrm temperatures overclocking frequencies they were able to hit temperatures of the CPU as well and just general instability and inconsistency of performance across different boards yeah between different boards and different platforms no so the Thomas Hardware article goes into some of that as far as their testing configurations how the setting up how they measuring stuff like temperatures of the V RMS do you know it like the sort of Delta was between like the coolest running board and the hottest running board in terms of erm or CPU temps kind of know in a it's hard it's hard to make a generic statement about that and this article they're using the MSI X 299 gaming Pro carbon AC but it's so like when you're talking about V RMS and the components in V RMS they're often rated at much higher temperatures they're rated actually to run at temperatures up to like a hundred and twenty-five C or something like that right whereas these I believe the 1700 100x will start to throw out a lot about 95 C mm-hmm but the temperature measurements for a lot of the power delivery components are not taken on the power delivery component itself there's not a temperature sensor that's built onto that component so the sensors are placed on the PCB that might be right next to the components right so it might not be actually testing the center of the component itself in might be getting something that's similar today and of course there's different motherboards different implementations of the power delivery that operate in different ways as far as the article goes they do specifically point out and let me get to that second page they do specifically point out in the second page one of the big complaints that I feel like has been across the board about skylake X which is the thermal interface material that they used between the heat spreader and the CPU itself and there's our there are charts from their temperature testings when it comes to the temperature of the heat spreader they noticed that there was a very significant glaring temperature difference between the heat spreader on top and the cores of the CPU underneath which they attributed to a crappy thermal interface material on the third page rolled adding a little bit more there's more details in these articles you guys if you have more information again linked in the description so I encourage you to check them out but yeah basically dependent sorry here's a quote from the article depending on whether you use enhanced turbo option which is an option in the Skydeck CPUs depending on where they use that are not power consumption in excess of 230 watts and a px heavy workloads can happen or as high as 200 watts without a VX right out of the box without overclocking or anything like that which is completely not in the realm of what an air cooler can support list of TDP of a 7970 900 X is 140 watts so that's significantly out of the range of what you would expect so even going with the what you would expect to be fairly conservative measurements from Intel they are usually very conservative out conservative about this stuff is not being supported by your typical air cooler I have a 70 100 X with a master air pro 4 on it right now and I'm pretty sure when I'm actually putting it under load that it is cause it's probably throttling simply simply because it's just an intercooler on so I'm gonna take a closer look at that soon I built that system kind of hastily it's crazy now quickly the tides have turned we're like AMD was like the go to like yeah you're over here you're an overheating hot run and chip yeah that's all pointing right and now it's totally in tow like like all the rising processors run super cool for the most part like a lot of like especially like this is 65 watt TDP parts it's like oh my god you can get away that like the included Wraith spire cooler on that and on most of them and get away with like the maximum overclock you could possibly push on some of those skews whereas Intel now is struggling to even be tamed by the most high-end air coolers which is quite quite interesting and it does seem like if Intel had taken just a little bit more time or invested a little bit more and the materials go into the construction of these CPUs if they'd gone with something like a soldered interface between the i HS HS and the cpu core mmm they might be dealing they wouldn't completely negate these problems but it would certainly help Sodor Bower is one of the ones who first talked a lot about this about green man sorry man cold out my bad green man I'm done so I have nothing to worry about yeah boy there's no I'm good those are empty I am not drinking it again probably probably a good idea plenty good soda bar first did his ex night ex 299 vrm disaster video which is here in English he's done an update to that and yeah basically he was working with several people who looked at his original video and we're trying to replicate those those the scenario that he set up that caused the V RMS to overheat when overclocking on with skylake X processors tiny Tom Logan from the UK attempted to recreate those had some difficulty with it devourer worked with him they did a collaboration video there's a couple videos on both sides in this video specifically devourer talks about the situation or the way he configured the test system in order to create the situation that caused the VRMs to overheat which was nothing like crazy over the top or anything like that and I apologize I don't have all of my notes together for this one this is where we ran out of time as we were getting ready for the show to start but he specifically references certain things such as the power switching states of the processors and the fact that they might throttle so quickly that certain software applications like CPU Z might not catch it hmm also there's more in the video I I'd like to say more details right now but I think I'm really getting to the point where if I attempted to go into it further I might say things that were completely incorrect we'll both just show how much how little we know about pretty much that's what I'm risking here so yeah the Tom's Hardware article was talking about how a lot of the blame at the initial launch of this platform was placed on motherboard manufacturers because the CPU power delivery configurations weren't up to snuff I think what sort of leveled out here is that there is definitely blame to be placed on both sides cooling better of the Viet having better cooling for the VRMs would definitely have helped em aside for example instead of doing their plastic plates that cover that you can customize with your name on it around and if they did might have been better invested in just making sure the VR agency we're functionally dissipating as much heat as they possibly could true but there's definitely of course blame on the Intel side as well or because when it comes to overclocking in particular there's just a lot of variance between different motherboards depending on like the current setting as far as CPU power delivery goes if it's at 100% you might not see the same situation that debars encountered but if you set it to one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty percent that's available in the motherboard you have via UEFI that might really cause that situation to have it so again could you guys check out those videos I feel a little bit more detail on that that's about as far as I could get today I didn't have better notes on it I had better notes on it and they went away but that's alright we're getting we're getting late it's getting late in the day the point is screw X $2.99 you should all just abandon it externally nine is it's a challenge to sham it's nobody I don't want to give up up on it completely I feel like they're still very unleash situations where it's a where it's it still might be the best but yeah but yeah it really sucks oh the power delivery for the power deliver 4x 299 if it's just an 8 pin they were testing some of the cables and finding the cue that the cables could get really hot because if you overclock in the power draw it becames becomes significant that can be an issue so going with a power delivery system that has at least eight plus four plant four pin or eight plus eight pin motherboard might be a better option for you all right which is also something that we've discussed in the past me like it doesn't matter because the CPU can never actually pull that much but these CPUs are actually seem to be getting more towards that which is crazy especially when you consider that we're only at the ten core model that's out actually out and available right now and Intel is still supposed to be giving us 12 14 16 and 18 core options coming in the next few months it's crazy to see how this might actually still be viable on this platform but if they're able 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I would even possibly consider Rison if you're doing any sort of work station applications whatsoever because you're gonna be getting more threads and cores as a result for either not much more money or less money than what you can get for an equivalent mainstream Intel processor so check out check out maybe like a sixteen hundred like an r5 1600 perhaps or even an hour seven 1700 that's that's what I've said in all my recent videos like all my recent videos like if you're just gaming is going into but if you're doing anything else besides gaming you just do rise that's what I've said like it would be wrong of me to go against that that opinion now so that's what I'm gonna stick through real quick point SuperPi game is cuz he's he's going crazy and chat this was a sweater Lincoln he has the wood case it's a forty nine thirty k CPU at four point five gigahertz city to Rama so tech have extreme a 1080i custom loop that's a cool that's cool case this is that wood paneling fantex right I think no NZXT what case is this it looks like it looks like an NZXT I feel like yeah I'd say NZXT like a sandwich or something like that yeah I don't know cool though that's definitely wood panelled woody nice case giving me a firm woody that's for sure all right next up we've got knowledge right uh yes knowledge $77.77 brand a pop quiz war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength Ministry of Truth what book is this from cheer guys cheers guys I love your content 1984 that's from who's gonna stay here to share it's great oh you're probably right right yeah 1980 for you bro thanks knowledge that's a good book everyone should read it car dock to 21 $10 donation dual Xeon 56 87 small business server converted to gaming content creation PC rocky an AMD 7950 upgrade the graphics and a dram or sell the system and build a six core Rison system gosh I mean Xeon dual 56 87 year you have a lot of compute power there sorry I did I miss the green man Jim you got a lot of compute power there but if your concern is gaming frequency is definitely gonna be very significantly important to you true um so yeah I would I would consider a something like this X square rising system because I think could get a nice boost in IPC yeah I'm right off the bat and you'll be able to overclock and get a high frequency so you there you go that's my suggestion Matt grams for $5 where can I buy a job our delineate to the only website I can find that has it is case king de doesn't ship to the USA thanks for being awesome I don't know yeah that might be your only option for now yeah this mall is just a dude sound stuff so you know Adams yard pretty much so this is a to to or not D letting doesn't you have a dual eating tool yeah Bauer yeah did he send you owner personally I do you physically hand it to you at context nice are you gonna put to you so this is this is for LGA 1150 1151 but put that cheated use bra yeah it's way better than then other deal inning methods because it's much more 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got there's another one on its way so Joe is actually kind of double fisting both me and Paul in the most professional way possible semen from my perspective you know Kyle abandoned Joe left Joe got Joe was like Kyle I need work and you know I gotta I gotta eat everything and cows like you Joe you you whereas and I was like Joe I'm gonna provide you a constant supply of work and so I have been working with Joe for a year and a half two years that's right in that range good guy Paul yeah no you definitely haven't been working with Joe more Joe edits one or two of my videos every week I send him in the raw footage and usually an outline or something like that if kind of what I'm going for yeah yeah that's it altogether he sends me back a project file and then I load up the project file run back through the project and it depends sometimes I'm so like I watch it and I'm good render it out sometimes I spend another couple hours editing it myself it really depends on the project and whether 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