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the show we're gonna discuss mspaint which is just massive controversy right now with that other fascinating things we have an actual an actual real live thread Ripper motherboard an X 399 motherboard not not just like one of the random samples that they show you it can't be fixed or something no but the actual full on retail box version some of that information has been coming out so we'll be going over that as well and a quick word of warning to those of you guys who are watching us we do drink some beer on the show as we discuss technology occasionally we let slip with a pejorative or foul language to some degree or an other so apologies for that penis like Kyle's demonstrating right now so we don't recommend this show for youngsters or at least those who are not mature enough to understand that it is only in the most dire of need that grown men other expletives in order to reinforce their point sir thank nothing we generally cry the word penis at the beginning of every show to deter all them immature people away yes we do it's a great way of doing that your people only penis you're the penis call take it away so I wish I had a song to go in to say take it away public oh god this is my music number yeah right now I'm supposed to in the beat comes a new music whatever we are drinking beer though so a quick hello to the beer and cheers to you guys I'm drinking Ellie's brown ale which is from Avery Brewing Company a delicious Brown Ale House drinking ruined 10 Ruben 10 from Stone from Stone aye it's a Stone IPA it it's a 10.8% beer and it feels like it this is the lots of heavy that's a heavy IPA it's very heavy IPA it's usually not quite that strong when it comes to the alcohol content deep if you'd like to help support our channels and support us and the things that we do check out our stores Paul's Arbor at net is mine look at all these wonderful things I have I feel bad because I don't have anything new but it's all good stuff the stuff that's there paint 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article and the verge is getting killed off in the Windows 10 fall creators update why that's not the creator's update right now that is the fall creators update oh my god so obviously much sadness has spread across the internet everyone loves paint paint awesome basically what's what all right so let's be more specific here let's not read Fudd or fear uncertainty and doubt and let's give people the actual information what has happened here is that Microsoft has listed Microsoft Paint as a deprecated feature in the Windows 10 fall creators update now what that means is a deprecated feature is something that will not be an active development and may be removed in future releases no that doesn't mean it's being removed right now it just means they're putting it on like the endangered species list like this we get off this at any time like it's there it's a life support wait we could just kill it if we want does this mean if you already have m-miss paint it'll stay there or does it mean even if you have MS paint already a future update could wipe it from your system as of right now it's not gonna be wiped from your system or anything like that so don't worry about Mike about paint suddenly being gone because like we said deprecated feature doesn't mean it's gone right now it means they can get rid of it in the future presumably if they got rid of it in the future and you were doing Windows updates then yes the standard application based launched this and it's Microsoft paints might be gone then they're getting random soon that's what that's what it means there's no reason maybe this unless they're planning to get rid of it soon we don't know for sure but we do know a little bit more information about about about paint in general now Microsoft has issued a statement on this will we get into in just a moment which will pretty much clear up all its confusion and doubt and everything but first a quick look back on the history of paint Oh does this sounds exciting yes a an educational bit perhaps with some research that I did earlier today fascinating for instance did you know that paint started as a 1-bit monochrome version that was released alongside Windows 1.0 in November of 1985 we've come a long way you're right that's 32 years ago 32 goddamn years ago Microsoft Paint came out its once of course widely known for what you might be seen as rudimentary or basic looking pixel bitmaps that people design with mspaint but it is also evolved over the years to allow you to do other things besides just draw in monochrome one bit color and in fact now it serves as not an equivalent to the photo manipulation applications that you might have with something like an Adobe Photoshop but certainly something that is capable of doing your basic copy and paste drawing an arrow on something or making just something that looks like a penis to send to your friends that's what I mostly which is one of the one of the most useful things you can do for it so Microsoft posted a blog and this is actually from today so the paint news as far as paint being deprecated kind of dropped yesterday today though Microsoft responded they followed up and they said no look at this picture we drew in paint that says we still love we still love ms paint but they're still gonna kill it they're not gonna get out of our system so do not despair do not despair Kyle the blog has announced that paint is actually here to stay it will be moved from its current home as a default installed app with Windows to a free Windows Store app okay I can live with that now I don't know if that means that like the installed as a default will be gone and you'll have to like go to the Microsoft Store and look at paint and call it either way but it will still be that huge deal so they're not killing it off entirely because of you who are super worried about that but this does seem like perhaps something that they're doing in order to sort of keep people away from paint just a little bit in order to draw put more attention on the replacement applications that they've been developing like they have an app called paint 3d that was launched with the creators update recently it's a 2d and 3d paint like app and you know what I thought I thought we can do rares assuming hold on hold on do you use paint I use paint all the time what do you use paintball paint Paul paint do you use paint yeah I use paints all the time I didn't do it's great for certain very simple things that do I know that's a creek maybe I don't know the creators update on the system yet paint 3d alright sorry I was gonna I was gonna bring up paint 3d and show you guys right now but maybe it's pasta it's entirely possible that I have not have updated the system to creators update yet but if you have the creators update then paint 3d is just there it's just on your system but I haven't had a chance to play around with it yet hmm but there you go so paints it's not going away but it is changing as far as where it lives and who knows maybe this is the beginning of the end as people serve just slowly stop using it because it becomes the thing that you need to actively go and get rather than is just there's yeah and as they start pushing people into other applications that they may be favored over paint because they're younger and fresher you know really perky breasts because here's here's what I use them as paint for like almost on a regular basis on a weekly basis is when I need to show you guys in some review or benchmark video that I've done just a screencap just a generic screen cap of my desktop with all of my you know make my cpu-z gpu-z hardware mod or all the statistics and data out on the desktop it's easier for me to just print screen and paste that into ms paint and save it then da snip it drugs then use the snipping tool because as you and I both know call snipping tool has a limit of 1920 by 1080 and it won't yeah that's good anything further which is why I've resorted this tippet in recent years to just print screening and pasting that straight into paint and saving that as an image yeah so I can later videos so this affects me like as a reviewer in a deep way that I I'm glad that I've you know we can excel access paint I must open the App Store I mean at least we have that but I mean for benchmarking in particular like I find it very useful to just take quick screen caps and like you said really bypass the limitations of the snipping tool yeah stupid snipping tool yeah snipping tool sucks snipping told me it's not as a matter of like I'll miss paint ms paint so much just like why the hell don't you just make snipping tool better I don't know thank you for reminding me thank you for let all the dog emojis in chat um let's move on to our next story though yeah Foxconn you guys are all familiar at least to some degree with Foxconn Foxconn is possibly going to be investing in the United States their Taiwanese based company of course whole I'm really Creek did you know that Windows key plus print screen will snap a photo for you I didn't know that so that's that's good to know I'll try that out sometime instead of having to use paint altogether if that can just create the photo somewhere then I've never done that before Windows key plus print screen ever done never tried it I'll try anything once I'll try anything that sounds once that sounds like it might probably specious like that whole like oh I'll tell for like press alt f4 that's a shortcut for this yeah oh just try heroin once it'll alright Foxconn reportedly is nearing a decision to invest in a display factory in Wisconsin here in the good old US US of a Taiwanese that Foxconn is a Taiwanese manufacturer and they might hold an event in Washington DC as soon as this week to announce some more specifics on this plan to invest in the United States the factory would make display panels that could be used in large screen electronics like televisions according to this article on Mac rumors which is where I'm deriving this information the article specifically says last month Foxconn chairman Terry Gow confirmed that Foxconn is interested in investing at least 10 billion dollars towards US manufacturing in seven different states Ohio Pennsylvania Michigan Illinois Wisconsin Indiana and Texas the the Wisconsin factory that specifically being referenced here would cost at least seven billion dollars so that does eat up a good 70% of that promise ten billion but GAO said it could create tens of thousands of American jobs jams jobs which is which are good jobs in America are good we want more jobs in trouble yeah especially in the specific states that might have suffered from economic downturn such as what happened in like 2008 and stuff like that so we're all for more jobs but we're all for honesty as well so to be perfectly honest there is some possibility that in their estimations of like look at all these jobs as bringing in they may be talking about the jobs that go into the building of the plants and once the plant is built because there is a lot of automation they're also talking about going on with this plant the actual number of long-term jobs that will exist after it's built might be less than their current estimation of tens of thousands okay so it is something to keep an eye on of course because we want to make sure that if people are promising to make investments in America that Americans are able to you know go and work and make stuff and something like a display factory that's pretty cool actually of course Foxconn is associated with Apple they make a lot of eye phones and I iDevices and Apple devices and stuff like that so it's possible that it might not just be large-scale displays that they're manufacturing here at this Factory but potentially smaller displays for devices like iPhones another Apple derived things sure lord knows there's no shortage of those but yeah good news if you're in Wisconsin I guess and if you're looking for a factory job and again like we said hopefully lots of those jobs are jobs that are here to stay and not jobs that are just there for like building up of this stuff because yeah they're probably you know Foxconn is not necessarily known for treating its base level factory workers employees with the most respect to me in fairness to fairness and you know the this is why they have smashed mat the suicide suicide hats and all those things sorry about the safety nets around the borders of the lab ups where the dutch-speaking see my solution for the dogs is to yell at them and yell at them that will make things even worse I don't yell turn that off yeah DAG but I would like them to shut up when they're yelling when they're barking out loud all right speaking of Wisconsin Mesquite here's another Wisconsin company I don't whether this is a Wisconsin theme the hell's going on out there oh my god throat clearing and no sniffling yeah so there's a company in Wisconsin called three square market and they are gonna have microchip their employees or at least the employees that say that it's okay as well they should three square market taking those long lunches microchipped bitch this video playing that's that's the that's the number one way you've company morale is by just microchipping all your employees to know that they are under lock at all times and under supervision might as well install like a freaking camera in their eyelids that you see everything they're doing this why is this guy eyes these at one of the kiosks or whatever it's the jews how we know we're the future anyway so basically the idea is that they're gonna get RFID chips implanted in their employees this is potentially for the sake of convenience since three square market is a company that provides technology for many markets and kiosks this video still playing stop it stop it Chuck so of course they would be interested in adding convenience for people being able to you know pay for stuff at their kiosks and whatnot is it convenience or is it like surveillance are people being tracked by these implants that are going into them probably not but but maybe but we can speculate on that and say maybe I don't know yeah or it could be that the implant is the mark of the beast the sign and sign of the beast and the world is gonna end as a result of this clearly CEO Todd Westby says this is the future though this is obviously the future the workers of this company three square market are not being forced to enroll but about 50 employees including the CEO Westby and his family are all gonna get chipped on August 1st cool just about a week it's excited again the rest of the employees they don't have to do this but if they want to they can that I mean but everyone else is doing it peer pressure I mean no yes getting chipped actually involves getting a syringe that injects the chip itself into the space between that would be my biggest barrier to entry it's like how big of a needle are you are you going to stick inside of my body oh that's it hell no I have good news Kyle oh oh yeah because you remember land syndicate right I do I remember Kane Gavin video of Kane getting exact Jesus now now no Jesus legacy no the needles so big goes right into that space and it'll say big and then it didn't see the body we can't like talk and talk and talk side up oh my god parents of that pieces of metal I have in my ears yes some dust really my hand it is an RFID chip that gets implanted into your hands or it can be scanned from six inches away and that syringe containing the chip which is about the size of a grain of rice it slid underneath the skin between your thumb and your forefinger the employees of the company three square market can use this now to open doors that require identification cards to log into computers to operate copy machines or to pay for snacks out of the company's vending machines it just seems like such an invasive process to I don't know to make very like simple like already simple things easier like it's like how much effort does it take you to open the door like we're like to get your card out to like open a door go through a passageway like versus like how much interference with your own body and morals does that like the RFID thing cost you like what well like we have a quickie in your when we found it I was like oh that's that's cool like it's like steampunk and like future cyborgs that's the only reason you would do it in Cannes because it's gonna sound like program stuff that'll work with it and use it and everything like that but like a company that's like hey all of our employees get this now somehow seems to just to move over into the area area application or like oh that's a little scary whatever like obviously this is the first company that's done it and it's only you know only voluntary or whatever but still seems a little bit scarier I feel like I feel like if like honestly I have nothing against the implants it's just it's just a matter of like like I hate needles first off okay so there's there's some bias there who loves needles though who loves getting injected the metal barbs or whatever so like first of all I don't like me a lot but I'd be so much more into this whole thing if like you could just do way cooler with it then open doors so it's not like you're Magneto I mean if there was some kind of universal identification system that was like you know run by the government or something like that then theoretically it could be something that operated as a universal identification chip I don't know how often it would need to be replaced through that kind of thing yeah it is it is passive so it theoretically cannot be hacked it's not like somebody could walk by you with some technical some piece of technology that could suddenly reprogram the chip so suddenly like you don't have access to it or whatever it's there's no GPS involved so it's not tracking you as you move around or anything like that it is purely an RFID bit of information that can be scanned by a radio frequency so there are uses for it but there's also limitations to it but there's also questions us to again how viable it is for long-term use and also how regular it becomes as far as something that you can just like oh like here's a payment method like let me just scan my hand and now it's like gone and it knows my bank accounts and it's taking the money out and now I have this very convenient means of pay or something like that I would do it for that if you could just like go to a grocery store and just like pay for which it might be eventually Wow I mean there's some limited but obviously there's a lot of there's a lot of pushback got something like this the technology itself was actually approved by the FDA or FCC or whatever whatever governing body needed to approve it approved in 2004 they were like that were there were protests against it because people were like oh this is like the sign of the beast you know be some some permanent thing that's getting implanted in people or put on them or whatever something like that so his religious pushback on it possibly and then there's also the price at least in the article $300 a piece is what the company in the Articles was charging the company that Tek syndicate worked with at lands etiquette was called bio implants and I thought it was more like a hundred bucks for the one that came din but I don't remember exactly so I'm not totally positive there but um yeah basically there's no ethical or privacy or religious concerns with the psychology at all we should be well know that yeah we'll do it together like the day that either of us do it like if you decide to do it one day I'll do with you in a vice-versa if I do it what you do it needs to be useful enough to be worth it yes and it needs to be something where I know that there's a unique the information on that chip needs to be unique in such a way that I can go to wherever it might be scanned they identifies its it is me needs to be univer needs to be like no possibility of somebody's being able to like spoof that and somehow making it pretend like that they're themselves and then maybe it might be something that's viable yeah and then that's when we'll move into the end times and Jesus will come back and the world will burn the fires of damnation can't wait ok next story of course err i I tweeted this earlier this weekend I know if you guys any of you guys spotted it but it was a specific article from PC perspective talking about Corsair and Corsair potentially being purchased for 500 million US dollars wow that's a lot this article is from PC perspective it was originally sourced from Reuters which was based on two anonymous sources saying eagle tree capital is in late-stage discussions to acquire course there who the hell's eagle tree capital Eagle tree capital is a private equity firm with several backers including Goldman Sachs the Macquarie Group and BNP Paribas what does this mean for gamers we don't really know yet because it's a rumor and we don't know if it's true now my initial tweet about this was obviously but- this rumor is true is bad news for fans of course there but I'll be completely honest here oh so you took a disliking to I saw this and I saw this article from PC perspective I read the article I tweeted my initial response which is that whenever I see large companies acquiring smaller companies I have sort of a trend a historical trend in my mind of the companies that are acquired not doing as well afterwards for a variety of different reasons right there's another article on New York Times about this if you guys want to read some it a bit more but both these are linked in the description if you guys wanna check kinda like they're moving further away from their like original creative mantra or you know whatever whatever sort of beliefs that they had and we're now being overrun by this larger conglomerate company that's just sort of a corporate machine to the thing potentially yeah no no I I essentially get that I see that so anytime again I feel like that applies and we've seen that happen area yeah of course not to be fair after I made this tweet of course they're actually got in touch with me oh no take back every word you said Paul yeah but we'll never give you another mid-tower case for sampling and if he was yet promised then of course there with a around that's dated I'm trying to get a gun to your head no did you see like course there Justin that's you don't change anything oh no okay but obviously in a situation like this in a situation like this there are sensitivities that need to be stopped freakin the dog out nori nari sorry Oh Kyle Kyle moves too quickly and nori thought that it might be something of concern okay nori okay so let me run through some of this information since I have information about this Eagle tree again as a private equity firm they have several backers including Goldman Sachs the macro regroup and BNP Paribas Corsair as a company you guys might be familiar with manufacturers lots of things when it comes to computers not just memory but also fans cases CPU coolers and memory devices USB there's lots of other stuff external human interface devices keyboard mice headsets lots of things Corsair was incorporated in California in January of 1994 they afterwards reincorporated in Delaware under a couple different names but they're incorporated in Delaware they were founded as Corsair Microsystems in 94 by Andy Paul tom Lieberman and John B CLE and Andy Paul remains the president and CEO today Corsair had initial plans for an IPO or initial public offering in 2013 but they did not continue after they received a seventy five million dollar investments from fransisco partners now Eagle tree with their potential buyout of Corsair would be making it roughly 40% equity contribution to the purchase price they're expected to pay nine to ten times Corsairs earnings before interest tax depreciation and amortisation of roughly 55 million dollars this puts the value of the company at around five hundred and twenty five million dollars at the midpoints now my tweet about this was obviously somewhat negative and that's because I have seen companies that get bought out by larger companies that are then exploited by those companies and that's a word that I hate when it comes to business because they're like how can we exploit this how can we take this establish brand that has a certain number of fans that follow it and a certain number of experts or an amount of expectation when it comes to quality and service and everything like that and how come we can then cut as much costs as we can from the day to day for ongoings of that company and the production for the products that they make to maximize the profit that we're making that and then ride that out for two three four five years until people realize from the public perspective that that company has now gone to because the focus is now a hundred percent how much profit can be made versus the quality of the products or everything that goes into that so basically you're saying like whenever a big company acquires a smaller company it's almost like that bigger companies trying to just make a quick buck at the expense no company that they bought turning into an inevitable I'm saying that can happen and I've seen that happen but that does not always happen but but that's the thing that could potentially happen that could happen yeah I agree but it all agreeance 1% but it all depends on the companies buying the smaller company out sure and how that company wants to treat that company and there's some who's like we've just bought this profitable profitable company they seem to be doing a pretty good job let's leave the people who are running that company in charge and let them do their thing and everything's fine yeah and from my perspective hopefully that's what happens with course--a right if this is true and of course there gets purchased yeah but there's obviously also the other route that it can go so all this is to say that I myself from my personal point of view and maybe you guys as well would be keeping a close eye on of course there and what happens over the next one to three years or months or however long it goes if this is an actual thing that goes through and actually happens because I don't know about you guys but I like a lot of course sales products we do I think they have a lot of good people working for them they do and I think those people have a lot to do with the good products that they put out absolutely and I hope they can make they can keep doing that yeah you usually usually when a bigger company acquires a smaller company they either just want to redo the carpets and the floors and the ceilings they want to redo everything and they want to like bring in their own people and do a bunch of consulting and or they're like worry we acquired you because you're you're already good you're you're solid you owning much work we like the creative aspect you bring and we want to keep all the same managerial positions that currently have and just continue flourishing that just now being under our wing which is what I hope works out for Corsair should they undertake this deal is that all of the existing managers and directors and executives at the company remain where they are because they're doing a hell of a job Coursera is still pumping out some pretty good products and it would suck if some big ass company just bought them out was like no no now a bunch of people who have no idea what PC hardware even means are in charge and they will be making the decisions from here on out and I feel like oftentimes that's what can lead a company into the when acquired by a bigger one is that the creative direction is no longer there and replaced as opposed to being acknowledged and appreciated and yeah and believed in it so so hopefully eagle tree is going to bring Corsair on as an asset that they hopefully will continue to support to grow and thrive and keep doing what they've been doing rather than bringing Corsair on in order to make as much money as they possibly can out of them over the next few years before driving the Corsair brand into the dirt we will be keeping an eye out and for now there's no reason to suddenly decide that you hate Corsair or anything like that but you know that's the type of thing that we should be aware of and well we'll keep you guys up to date if we receive any more information on that yep all right one of our story here from the general news segments and that is about a recycling robots which I thought was David that was kind of a robot named Clark yes his name is Clark that's adorable it could be the keys to reducing waste so I was actually a this is a link to a PDF in here so alright so Clark makes use of an official and I'm sorry an artificial intelligence to recognize and sort food and beverage containers alone make this figure recognize some sort of food and beverage container go so you can you can see this is part of Clark right here on the right he has already been deployed in a municipal waste facility in Denver Colorado he uses a visible light camera to spot milk juice and food curtains and pull them out using a remote robotic arm and suction cups you can see right right down there it's a highly technical yeah that's super super it doesn't seem quite as fancy when when it's like a conveyor of up conveyer belts of that's going by but it sure a lot its recycling goes into the process its recycling stuff so it recognizes the products the items that it pulls out are diverted from the landfill and sent to the appropriate recycling facility Clark can process sixty items per minutes it has 90 percent accuracy and it's about 50 percent faster than a human would be doing the same task this results in a 50% reduction in sorting costs for this particularly because then that greases accuracy is not too bad it's not bad at all 60 Em's a minute that's one item a second I mean considering its literally looking through the garbage and that people toss in their in their trash cans yeah and one item a second is more than any to go in there and pull out stuff you know like like plastic bins curtains and that kind of thing right now bear in mind so obviously you can look at this from a very positive perspective it's recycling saving the planet right taking plastic and and and doing good with it yeah yeah also consider Clark is an AI based system so the more Clark works the smarter Clark gets oh no the article is quoted as saying even though this first system is picking up curtains it's actually watching and learning no from all the other commodities that it's seeing as well what might Clark be learning from those other commodities only the AI knows for sure he's gonna take over the world actually right now Clark can identify and say oh that's a number one plastic bottle container but I want it to be able to say oh that's a Pepsi bottle that's a Gatorade bottle they want it to be brand aware this is exactly the information they need to conquer the world probably obviously Lord so we're all in trouble people we're all in trouble it's the recycle box obviously was sin yeah our initial perspective about Clarke here is positive you know he's certain he's doing he's doing the Lord's work he's sort of certain the stuff get the recyclables about we just don't want Clark to become self-aware he will become self-aware in destroy so yeah that's what Clark is most likely yeah all right let's move on to our next segment which is going to be how maybe our buddy have you heard work so I have a few bits of hardware to talk about today let's start out by closing all these steps just to make tabs up there hold on hold on hold on I can't sleep I won't be able to sleep tonight you're worried about Clark having nightmares about Clark's coming for me he's gonna desert the coop the plastics he knows the plastics from the aluminum's what happened to that article of my article disappeared all that yeah so the first article in hockey hardware is about the asus rog zenith it's 18 X 3 9 the red ripper motherboard that on boxed who had the privilege of Oh chip Hill had the privilege of enough unboxing yes amazing so this is a this is a video cards dot-com article but it is via chip Hill which is a Chinese language base website and a series of pictures here unboxing the Hardee's in this extreme is a high-end motherboard now if you I mean it's ROG its zenith they've never had a Zenith before because I said og has existed Eames E has not had a high platform for them to need to create a code name for it that's true which is kind of cool so as eNOS is what they've named this this would be equivalent to rampage rampage yeah on the Intel side and the extreme it means it's a pretty damn high end it means it's got most of what Asus wants to toss at it they have a quick look at the accessory kit is included here and you can see there's lots of accessories and actually see what is most likely a actual thread Ripper processor right up here hidden underneath what I assume is maybe it is that a 10 Gigabit Ethernet card possibly I don't know I would expect something like a 10 gigabit ethernet card was something like this possible I'd also expect that they cost five to six hundred dollars it comes with Wi-Fi antennas a PCIe Ethernet card why would they do an add-on card unless it was 10 gigabit there's no reason for them to put an ad on of course the standard Gigabit connector so yeah a VGA holder which I maybe is this bracket right here keep sag eliminate you sag the Asus dim - extension card which I don't know if there's a closer picture of but it says India at least the dim slot if you go out one picture to pick to pick in one picture so the on the very right well it looks like an extra dim slot here is actually them using an existing dim slot like it like a ddr4 slot took a piece and put a riser card in that you can slide in and MDOT - in - right two of them right and then there's one on either side maybe I don't know when I saw it Computex have like an MDOT two on either side but don't quote me on that but that's I'd be pretty cool if that was the case that's possible Kyle you hear from CalPERS your members but yeah Wi-Fi antenna 10.2 card and there's an LCD screen on there somewhere apparently to the LCD I don't see the LCD screen I don't know it's exactly about their dual eight pin CPU power connectors that are all both in the top right here so that's also kind of interesting but yeah for anyone who's excited about thread Ripper this is probably gonna be a pretty sweet mother board for its there's that dim dot - card actually the expansion card oh yeah there is so I should blow you might be right actually Kyle because there's a series of mounting points right along here and then that it's a secondary series right here I only make sense if there was an additional mounting point on the opposite side yeah that's what I remember from looking at the demos like oh there's one on either side but you know I think you are correct about that one there cool so that is the ROG SI units experience 399 motherboard view is EA T X so it is large as well but pretty cool to see right now JJ actually did a quick unboxing of this on his Twitter as well just recently nice so I'm pretty excited about that one very cool if I can get my hands on it next up on how Navy Hardware this is this is actually a hardware review and it's just one that I thought you guys might find interesting if you weren't already familiar with it hadn't seen it it's on gamers Nexus it's specifically about streaming and gaming at the same time or are the results on this I mean eight core versus a fork or both hyper threaded or you know whatever you want to call it multivariate what what what what what findings did they have I didn't get a chance to watch this video in its entirety but I saw it and I was like this is gonna be a good video what what did they find worthy give us the give us the TLDR call well here's the here's here's what they did I'm trying to cue this up so I can show you guys very cute yes oh the way Steven company did this particular review was first off they went in to try to figure out how to hack to you even benchmark gaming and streaming at the same time because there's so many different variables that might come into play sure when it comes to the software you might use the encoding hardware that you might use whether your encoding on the CPU whether your encoding on the GPU whether your encoding on the CPUs I GPU yeah all those are different various options that they might choose now what the video the way actually did it was they start off by showing the actual performance without telling you which is which and if you guys are watching this right now you can probably tell with a quick glance the one on the left is incredibly smooth the one on the right is dropping frames left and right so there's the one on the right themself CPU I don't know spoiler alert for any of you guys who don't want spoilers stop the video now and go watch that but yeah the video the article as well as the video are linked in this video's description so you guys can check it out but they were testing not just the frames that were outputs to the stream so they monitored drop frames on the stream itself they also monitored frames delivered to the game itself and they were just looking for a sixteen point seven millisecond frame time or maintaining a 63 64 fps sure just so most people would want on your typical gaming monitor sure they also test in different situations such as upping process prioritization so just so you guys know since we've given enough time since the spoiler alert here the one that's all choppy on the right is a 7600 Kay the one on the left is the rs7 1700 so this has been stated quite a few times that Steve says it's beginning of this that you would expect a processor with more threads and more cores to be able to outperform a process of a fewer threads and fewer cores when it comes to something like being able to encode and send a video stream to a streaming service like twitch or YouTube then you would with a processor with fewer heads and three fewer cores they found that's completely true the Rison 7 1700 with eight cores and 16 threads pretty much just destroys the 7700 k although the 7700 k can give you better strick to gaming performance when all you're doing is gaming when you're adding the additional stress of gaming and streaming at the same time the 1700 is clearly the better option yeah at least in this specific testing scenario like we said there's different ways to set up a stream there's a TVC encoding that you can do on NVIDIA GPU there is h.264 encoding that you can do with the AI GPU from an Intel CPU as well they weren't necessarily diving into this they were mostly focused on cpu streaming for this specific test but they did a great job I thought of laying out how the test would run giving you the side-by-side stream quality comparisons and kind of teasing you not letting you know what is which one is which at first so you can sort of get the impression before you know which one was which I thought that was a good way of doing it sure so rising 17 or 1700 pretty much wins if you're going to be gaming screaming at the same time that's definitely a much better option than Intel's fork or even fork or with hyper-threading options Christmas jiminy Christmas there's this big s dog here oh but wow he's he's on top of things yeah so yeah if you guys are interested in some more detail check out gamers Nexus they did a great bit of testing there and I highly recommend reading the article watching the video absolutely it's good stuff ok final story here for tech news and this is I'm sorry for hot and heavy hardware this is about a Dell monitor that was recently announced but has gotten a bit of pushback for its this is the del u 2 v 1 8 D monitor it is a 25 inch 60 Hertz IPS display 2560 by 1440 1440 resolution it's got hdmi 2.0 and DisplayPort 1.2 it's got very thin bezels as you can probably tell from the picture here is being advertised as being HDR compliance however one is not even though it has a $500 price tag it doesn't necessarily have the rest of the specs when it comes to the strict hardware performance that you would need to line up with HDR compliance that being it only is an 8 bit panel instead of 10 bits so your color depth is obviously suffering their HDR 10 which is the standard that's been established by like the Xbox 1s and so on requires a 10 bit panel it's also only got 315 it's of brightness which is low for HDR so you want a contrast ratio of like a thousand one or better true contrast ratio for HDR as well so it just doesn't seem to match up to that guru 3d pointed out specifically that this monitor offers support for Dell HDR which is simulated software-based HDR mode that responds to HDR 10 content on Dells display but falls short of the color gamut peak luminance and bit depth that is necessary for true HDR so the moral semi false advertising like its HDR 10 compatible but it doesn't quite pack all the specs it probably to actually deliver that sort of quality it's probably giving you a little bit more than your typical 8-bit IPS display but certainly not giving you the HDR experience so at its advertised keep an eye out for this type of thing and it's a good thing that there are people closely monitoring the specs resolutions and features support of products that are launched by a large companies like Dell to make sure that they are staying honest yeah all right I have to pee it's okay that's you let's switch to swordfight all right we're gonna argue about stuff and specifically here we're gonna argue about the thread Ripper retail packaging that you guys may or may not be familiar with oh boy what what drive it from packaging this is the debate of the century right here yeah kind of bits this is very serious stuff all right well so here we go oh anyone else kind of getting tired vibe from the Andy res entire bag very tired so I tweeted this yesterday okay so this is the risin thread Ripper packaging on the left side here yeah we already kind of cover the Sun Kyle's who's that more right you don't recognize that no really it looks kind of familiar but I can't pinpoint it this Jurassic Park oh is that the egg no it's a amber oh and it's a it's an insect that trapped in the amber this is the first Jurassic Park yeah at the beginning of the first Jurassic Park when they're going over like how this is all working out and they talk about the amber do you like these in them he's in the amber body he pulls it out somehow I have forgotten that very crucial part is a foreign language okay no one I remember yeah okay Hey look at it right here so we have did you do this that's image yeah yeah I put this side-by-side you put a seven okay yeah that's my tweet okay so we have the packaging right here with a terrace it's also been shown by by Lisa soo hold on Lisa super scale let me go oh yeah here's a hex is done and Lord it's the same picture it's the same damn picture it's great picture yeah there's a picture at Lisa sit yep that's uh it's it's obviously reasonable reasonably large size here I'm only showing you this so you can see kind of the actual thing it's it's curved around the outside on the inside there is what appears to be sort of illuminance going on with the processor held internal yeah I see it so my question to people was like obviously this is what I'm seeing out of it and I asked a bunch of people like what else they saw out of it so I got lots of good responses which I thought was pretty good a data a data even through a nice like Wendell this was what Wendell thought oh yeah okay so he's not the only one okay I'm sorry great Owen Owen said you know how 9,000 so obviously we have quite a few options here we had some people said it looked like this old TV this one I throw in there too reminds me of the Animaniacs towheaded alien if viewed from the front I just thought that was unique so I threw that in there as well so obviously there's Lisa sue with it looks like a Macintosh an old Mac or something like that we got we got Indy here you know really no you know no and he's good he's financed that's in I don't know yeah so Indy Indy in Raiders of the Lost Ark so here is what we're gonna be arguing right now okay guys are interested in chat and you want to argue this along with us please feel free to go and make a vote on that but what do you think I'm obviously gonna go for the first one okay but Linda lettuce yeah dress pork intro what do you think though I'm gonna say how mines out as I was saying how nine thousand from 2001 Space Odyssey it's a classic clearly a basis of imitation everyone's of course gonna try to copy hell nine thousands that's like god man thats all i got killed that whole life yeah i killed the whole IPA 10.8% that you and it's good me with function sir and I think that's a drawing argument I'm so done I mean I obviously argue for Jurassic Park because yeah that's what I saw what I saw when I saw the picture you know all right that's awesome any me wrecking my cell it's like what wears those Jurassic Park reference but you know that's just me I just didn't just dumb it and get it you didn't of the Jurassic Park thing I don't doubt that that's very but see let's compare it so this is the N cell packaging for their core X series right which is hideous did we ever have a discussion about this no but it looks horrible it looks horrible it looks like they went to a rave in there right it's there it's straight forward it looks like a real bad rave decision yeah to give black out with like neon colors like know for some reason AMD with this I don't know what it is about this part of it but it seems like it's glowing or whatever so like that makes it stand out more has a weird sort of shimmery effect but I think that like it just like the shape of it looks so retro but we should also be pointing out more practically speaking is a lot of people pointing out the size of this clearly seems to potentially indicate I say clearly potentially potentially indicates that there's a all-in-one liquid cooler in there because that's been one of the rumors I said it's I don't know though I don't I don't think it looks big enough baby and I mean I mean it depends depends on what's going on in there I don't know I I can't from a business standpoint I can't imagine AMD including like a 120 millimeter a IO with their CPU and keeping the cost as low as it is as it's been advertised so far I have a feeling that they're just expecting enthusiasts who buy their CPU to automatically already have a - at least a 240 millimeter AO which I feel like it's pretty reasonable I feel like most people buying thread of her bed Ripper probably either have preferred to have a cue partition like you you probably can't use any existing coolers on thread well I'm saying like ones that become available after thread after thread Ripper launches like don't don't you think that there are a few cooler manufacturers out there who have already been designing and and sort of planning I think based on the TDP of thread Ripper it's gonna require a good amount of cooling but I also think any cooling that goes onto thread Ripper is gonna need to be completely new so I think it would be practical to a certain degree for them to do something good sorry do something like that and ship a liquid cooler with dread recur whether they have two versions and others like this here's here's this version for $1000 for the thread referred 16 core that comes with just the CPU here's this version for $1,100 it comes with CPU and a liquid cooler or something like that I don't know I don't know how they're gonna go about that but it does seem like it's gonna need a pretty substantial amount of cooling yeah but let's get back to the main point which is uh what does the thread refer retail packaging remind you guys of and see what people think definitely nothing that could fit it 240 right I have sahrin ever-watchful of top of great eye lidless wreathed in flame I was gonna add more there but I don't even has like the appropriate but I did get second place really no hana jurassic with the Jurassic Park intro it's a great light and then of course third place see our team on TV or monitor how then thousand came in pretty low further down did have a few votes at least for the Animaniacs option there thanks to you guys for voting in our survey and now let us move on to the final segments of my half of the show which is Q&A so we're gonna answer questions have been asked most likely via the donations that people have submitted you guys are awesome if you've been sending estimation donations 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and yeah beyond the manufacturer listed rated speeds which for Intel this is like what 2666 and yeah and and there abouts um yeah you might you're not gonna get guaranteed but I will say right now intel has better support for higher speed memory yeah it also partially depends on like your motherboard BIOS and what they've a lot of support for yeah but you should be ok if you go with either Corsair or g.skill for the most part I feel like that's those are the best results that I've seen so far but we've got SG man shield from hindsight itching to build a compact Red River build thinking at work looking at making an ITX beast in early 2018 probably I would not expect to see ITX thread Ripper unless you know at all I have a feeling she's probably not gonna exist x3n won't exist and then I really don't know no it's huge the socket is huge it is a massive socket someone's gonna do it though and it's maybe like maybe a toxin maybe a stock will do one like they did with X 299 whatever which was also fairly impractical or whatever yeah but you you're not gonna have support for quad-channel memory you're gonna lose out on a lot of the stuff for the platform yeah so the practicality of making something that small with something like the Red River it just doesn't make as much sense true Rison like you can make an ink core really nice eight core resin CP system and there's already a DX boards for that yeah and you'll be fine there I just I don't see it happening on threader great yeah my great TX probably I hope but I wouldn't expect to see an ITX board for thread Ripper at least not one that doesn't make some really really serious limitations on the overall capabilities of the board no Joel bottle sita for the $5 i was getting this wonderful stream again live also one day a mirror will pass under clark and it'll see itself and that's the day we will have to mount and then will it gather itself to be recycled and then will it make more clark robots that recycle other things 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