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to sleep on your half now right maybe I can sleep I can totally mentally time you should and I interview - these are all feign you should feign interest oh I have some vaguely interesting like a second probably swing back I mean just you just at least like I can I I'll act interested I can see through it and be like cows totally just just you know phoning it in right now but as long as you're phoning in it as long as you're making that call oh yeah that's all so I mean that's how fast I've got your half of the show on on speed dial sure we should be live to YouTube now so hey everyone and welcome to awesome hardware this is a live show we talk about technology we drink some beers we do it every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time and we stream live to switch TV / awesome hardware we also stream to each of our YouTube channels we already did the first half of today's show which is episode number 116 on Kyle's channel which is bit width and link to his video is in the description if you missed that maybe check it out it'll show you how we got to where we are right now which is slightly toasty yeah and I don't know we'd it's warm and you've had a drink oh yeah California to pound a beer on his half of the show so that he did - so there we go he was a champion at that I might have the show we're going to talk about some some monitors some HDR displays and some space stuff and in videos Volta architecture for the new GPUs and it's gonna be a lovely time so thank you guys so much for joining us if you happen to be watching live cheers Jesus if you're watching in the future cheers to you guys - but thanks for being here I'm drinking a Lagunitas Imperial Stout that cow brought over stay thirsty my friends tell is drinking what are you drinking I'm drinking a double IPA from Anderson down Anderson Valley double IPA delicious it's delicious stuff we're gonna continue on my half of the show with news yeah you know no we're not gonna doors buy things for us we have so many things just about real quick plug for starts pulsar Burnett is my store I have quite a few shirts as well as some mugs pent glasses city's vinyl decals look at these ladies glasses they're great high-quality things oh yeah if you buy them we shout your name at the end of the show Kyle's store features not just fidget spinners but also shirts and some caps now caps yeah I like baseball caps ends bulk and trucker caps I got it all caps I mean wear hats all good shower haps hats then bye-bye all of them bit with that tech slash store is Cal store my stores at Paul's heart Burnett slash store check them out buy some stuff it's all real good alright continuing with news and then tech article seems to be telling us that these displays that people have been kind of excited about from both Asus and Acer are going to be delayed no yes these HDR displays with the ACE the Asus one two yeah both so these displays were first shown off at comp at CES at the beginning of 2017 we're talking about the Acer 4k HDR predator X 27 gaming according to a sir it's been delayed to q1 2018 geez so they're not gonna hit the holiday season with the launch ASIS in the same boat with their rog swift PG to 7uq also gonna be delayed to q1 2018 now if you're familiar with displays and how the market works generally speaking there's there's the panel makers the actual manufacturers of the panels and then it'll have these companies like Asus and Acer that take those panels build a display around it and sell it to people so both of these displays are based on an AU Optronics model of panel it's called the enemy 2 7 and 0 QA n 0 2.2 it's an hv a panel 3840 by 2160 4k resolution 144 hertz refresh rate and it has direct LED backlighting with 384 zones which is a real nice way to do LED backlighting by the way yeah you can have individual zones with darkening it's a great like really good dark scenes and like that great for contrast ratio yeah you know what's not said in this this is the actual size these are set 27 inch rate are they like I would think yeah because it's an X 27 from predator and a PG 227 7 pretty sure this is a 27-inch panel but it's the 4k the 4444 hertz and HDR right not HDR all together in the same panel which is what made these so desirable yeah cream of the crop they're also both of g-sync and there have been no other 4k g-sync HDR displays announced even so yeah it's too bad these are delayed where I have to assume since both of them are delayed it's got something to do with the manufacturer of the panel AU Optronics but hopefully since it is 2018 maybe it'll be early 2018 maybe maybe a little see these launch around CES 2018 timeframe or something like that if you watch my half of the show then maybe you would know that there's a potential that you could scale down the resolution of these displays and potentially increase the frame rate or I'm sorry the refresh rate beyond 144 Hertz we were seeing a 480 Hertz display earlier as a prototype so that's right keep-keep times 27-inch 480 Hertz HDR yeah super sweet cool with that moving on I can jump at that space X has landed another one of its rockets I usually do a species segment when I talk about space stuff but I'm just talking about this specific one this rocket took off from Cape Canaveral Florida at 12:30 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time yesterday it was bound for the ISS the International Space Station and eight minutes after takeoff the majority of the vehicle that being the nine the main booster itself came back down and landed on a pad on solid ground off of the Florida coast this is the 14th successful rocket landing for SpaceX it's the sixth time they've landed one of their Rockets back on the ground which must be a little bit easier I think the landing on the barges that they have floating out on the water that's pretty pretty benefit of when they land on the barge floating out in the water is that they can move the barge around so they can optimize the flight path for fuel efficiency and that kind of thing but of course the barge is moving around in water and they have to deal with the ocean currents and weather and that kind of thing so landing on the ground is easier because they have a hundred percent accurate of attempting to landing land the Falcon 9 rocket on the ground the rocket itself carried a dragon cargo capsule filled with about 6,400 pounds of supplies to scientists for experiments on the ISS tell about the crew I imagine resupplies as well for stuff like you know things to eat yeah okay that's that's very useful am i important yeah but yeah the dragon itself hasn't actually docked with the ISS yet it will spend the next couple of days in orbit before meeting up with the space station on Wednesday so tomorrow sometime you can follow SpaceX on Twitter if you want to be updated but that kind of thing they usually do some tweets about it and often live streams of docking procedures and that kind of thing which is fun to watch this is their 11th launch this year in 2017 which is already three more than they did last year and it's only early August so SpaceX has been ramping up which is pretty cool nice we get excited about that stuff because maybe one day SpaceX will be instrumental in a mission to Mars oh yeah that's pretty badass in my on me up in my opinion alright you're doing a great job by the way yeah yeah my doing great job was like just sort of like a hike man I feel like you got I got you on the phone perfect service exactly for the perk I'm glad the ruse he's for it alright um I'm just repeating everything if you are interested in Android phones and their capabilities of doing stuff beyond just being phones you might be interested in this new development from Qualcomm this is specifically talking about their new processor the Neustadt newest snapdragon processor which isn't specifically named in the article but they have an image processing that there's this part of the processor that does image processing so I'm trying to say okay it's called spectra and as part of their next flagship snack Snapdragon processor they're doing a bunch of improvements to spectra such as the ability to do basic stuff with photography like noise reduction and vo stabilization but also support for a bunch more I'm sorry three more camera modules with advanced sensing features so as you like low light and potentially better for like just like high motion high activity well there's shots where things are moving around so this there's three there's three modules that they're specifically talking about that do three different things one does iris scanning so that's probably pretty huh yeah so do you guys have already seen that you know cameras that let you do security features and everything iris scanning yeah that's one thing there's also a module that does depth sensing it's a uses a passive depth sensor that uses two cameras with the lenses spaced apart so it can sense the depth which I believe is what this chip is showing right here but beyond the passive depth sensor there's also an active depth sensor that actually uses an infrared illuminator to shine a bunch of infrared lights down on the subject and then it uses the reflection of the pattern to do infrared sensors Kenny I'm not describing that very well what why why would someone need infrared scanning on their phone because it is more accurate and it's better determining distortions in the pattern use it just it determines its distortions in the pattern of the dots in order to detect the depth so that the phone can see not just an image of what's going on in front of it but how far away things are okay so that's that's the main feature here goldshire yeah determines distortions and the patterns of the dots can map depths far more accurately than the passive system stop that hmm so there you go and as a result of that I'm sure there's lots of software and stuff that can be built on top of this there's tons of stuff that your phone can do because of features that the phone has built into it like a GPS and a camera and a microphone and a screen and a touchscreen and lots of other stuff like that this is adding more capabilities to the phone and I'm sure there's lots of software that might be developed on top of this to take advantage of it in ways that we can only imagine right now hmm maybe there's somebody watching who's gonna develop an app that will be super awesome to do with this kind of thing I hope but phones being able to determine like the actual distance away things are in front of them might be something that could be used for augmented reality well ma'am you know it'd be useful if it was like a like a like an active measurement tool like if you could take a picture of a desk you know just like if I took it from this angle and shot a picture of your desk going this way and it could actually measure how long or how wide it is exactly how right yeah I mean something like that if it's about calculating depth to some degree it feels like that would be super useful to have like an actual tape measure app in your phone yeah I would love that and so and so take that base functionality combine it with other stuff combine it with other functions that the phone can do imagine that this is something that just all phones will be able to do in a few years next gen dick pics and yeah stuff that you already thought your phone it was pretty cool and was able to do I mean imagine stuff like through like scanning scanning something in 3d yeah we're to be greatly enhanced by something like this yeah so 3d scanners like you're pretty you know pretty expensive and you have to have a fixed thing that spins the thing around and scans it or whatever and I can just there's already basic levels of functionality but something like this we do scanning with the phone I could do it like super accurately or at least a lot more accurately than might have been done before so stuff like that that's presented x' and 3d exactly and you never get a really a full appreciation of the curse being first devices the feature this new processor from Qualcomm which has this technology in it is expected to ship in 2018 sometime in 2018 there we go that's all for the basic news segments let's move on to oh joy Oh Jojo Joy's sarcastic oh joy is actually terrible things terrible things with no solution to them so there we go hold on let me close some of these oh joy it's definitely a nice pick me up in the middle of the show it is it's great timing for this service Nvidia and videos next-generation GPU architecture is codenamed Volta right now we're using Pascal based GPUs if you're on a 10 series graphics card according to Nvidia like don't expect volta anytime soon oh this is based on a transcript of Nvidia's recent q2 2018 earnings call provided by seeking out alpha and Vidya does not plan on releasing volta based GPUs to consumers anytime soon and Vidya has only already revealed their vault of e 100 GPU for enterprise and server markets which is pretty cool and it's designed to accelerate AI calculations and deliver insane levels of compute performance but hey when can we common folk get our hands on some Volta based graphics cards not anytime soon according to this article write accordingly because they don't need to roll out any new cards anytime soon yeah really not a ton of competition at least be high-end high-end so that is that is a theory companies like Nvidia don't tend to typically come out and be like we're not giving you volta because AMD sucks yeah you don't usually like they don't usually come out and say that directly so you know it's up to you to assume that or inferred or whatever but yeah Jennsen when Jensen womp womp he said they do not plan to release volta this holiday season or for the foreseeable future as they see their Pascal architecture at this time is unbeatable Wow that's pretty ballsy yeah the specific quote from the article says bolt up for gaming we haven't announced anything and all I can say is that our pipeline is filled with some exciting new toys for gamers and we have some really exciting new technology job for them in the pipeline parenthetically Prime's like a really fascinating presentation about GPU about what our GPS are doing in cars no one cares about but for the holiday season foreseeable future I think Pascal is just unbeatable it's just best thing out there for any everybody's looking forward to playing call of duty or destiny to if they don't if they don't already have one that should get a pesky see your so you're saying like you're sort of their glue they're not gonna cover like a distinguished company like a video gonna outright safe oh and these are really challenging is at this point but they are going to status at this time category where we are unbeatable and if you look at it well they really only have one competitor in the market space so they did have a tweet earlier this week with thread Ripper true force just like hey thread Ripper that's a great pair that's a great combination for the 1080i an AMD was like yeah yeah yeah yeah [Laughter] [Laughter] the article very you know being being fair and everything points out that they could be facing delays for reasons such as delays in manufacturing yield problems or some other technical issue do we know what kind of memory or it will just be a lack of competition they doing Jeep GT or 5x and NVIDIA has Pascal based GPUs already with HBM memory on on the Pascal with their workstation stuff right so I think it's just up to them I think ain't Nvidia made the choice which in retrospect looking at it now that Vega has launched probably the right choice that hvm to and HBM wasn't as a viable solution for the commodity market that gaming graphics cards is and they wouldn't be able to manufacture enough of them to meet up with demand and potentially also that the benefits of HBM to memory as far as increased bandwidth just wasn't gonna make that much of an impact when paired with but the curt with what the abilities of the current GPUs that they can produce so right it seems like they made a right choice and in that regard but yet we might see something volta based with HBM to memory from Nvidia in the future but really hard to say if that would be a gaming graphics card or something else and at the enterprise market sorry about the dogs they're just letting us know that it's nighttime are you sure the Sun has fallen again you sure you have like a pizza or something I mean pizza wouldn't be terrible but I wouldn't complain my wife might be home at some time yeah alright continuing the oh joy segments a quick note about the FCC here an article from ours Ars Technica the FCC is suggesting via a document they recently posted that maybe Americans don't really need fast home internet service because hey maybe you got that cell phone data service right what yes exactly what what so this document was posted by the FCC it's backed by a sheet pi who we've talked about on the show in several different past episodes this new FCC docs suggest the changing a specific policy which regulates mobile broadband service section 706 of the Telecommunications Act requires the FCC to determine whether broadband or more firmly advanced telecommunications capabilities are being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion that's part of what the FCC is supposed to do as a government agency that serves the public they're supposed to look at the broadband that's out there and be like hey is this being deployed to people in a reasonable and timely fashion this new document is suggesting that reasonable and timely might mean hey you've got wireless data service because Wireless data service can give you internet connection speeds of about 10 megabits per second download and one megabit per second upload that's what the FCC wants to reclassify your broadband internet connection as which would mean that the FCC could then look at the maps that cover the in the nation as wireless service oh you've got wireless data your Verizon map covers you right you've got your Verizon map coverage at your house on your cell phone yeah we don't need to compel your internet service provider to roll out additional service or actual hardware to provide you coverage that's actual wired connection because you've got the wireless connection they're lowering the bar they're lowering the bar for what qualifies as a broadband connection so the thing so that they can say that your mobile broadband provider meets up with that right and that way ah damnit Ajit that way your mobile data service has you covered the FCC does not need to do that job and forced ISPs to roll out anymore to spend any of their hard-earned ISP money to roll that additional improve so that's super blue coverage for people out there isn't that same that was not the same thing it's not the same thing they're capitalizing on people's like lack of knowledge of how this works yeah current broadband standards in the u.s. at twenty five megabits per second down and three megabits per second up still not the greatest but a heck of a lot better than 10 down and one up and also just one of those thresholds yeah because of the limitations of wireless software in general or wireless hardware in general we're lowering that would allow them to meet that threshold so we've encouraged you guys many times on the show to talk to the FCC we're doing it again this is a document that they've posted let them know you can do so directly on the FCC website they they do have forms open for you to provide feedback that you think that's yes because it is if you live somewhere if you're in a rural area I should have moved this but if you're in a rural area and you have crappy wired service like you have an old copper connection or something like that or DSL and you've been waiting to get some kind of internet service upgrade this is the last thing you want to hear about yeah because Internet service providers can charge more money due to scarcity because scarcity is like oh we don't have the bandwidth to provide you because we didn't spend the money to feed to lay down a fiber or that kind of thing anyway so that's kind of BS thing and it's part of why it's a part of oh joy this is why it's like it's important to to share this sort of information and to kind of I feel like it's sort of our responsibility to teach people it's like our friends and family about the sort of thing like data rates and bandwidth and because like you can try to get someone hyped up about you know net neutrality but they don't understand like bandwidth rates or you know like the technical aspect of it then they don't really get the whole concept look boys - essential details it takes a while of talking about and discussing things like make megabytes and gigabytes and it skill and you know the difference between bits and bytes yes I mean that into your head of like what bandwidth is exactly how it's discussed throughput versus like raw numbers and that kind of thing yeah it's it's challenging but it's the type of thing that people don't understand right away but it is definitely the type of thing that the FCC is trying to take advantage of being psychic knowledge exactly so they can change this so that is P is suddenly like oh we can sit back not spend any money and charge people more for their shitty bandwidth yeah that sounds great okay let's move on to our last story in oh joy an update this past week if you had a smartlock might have screwed you over ooh the manufacturer is called lockstate they pushed a firmware update to hundreds of their internet-connected lots locks and those locks then became inoperable Internet of posted about this I might start doing a regular segments I follow them a Twitter it's pretty it's pretty phat it's pretty fabulous sometimes it's gonna be fascinating but lockstate mistakenly sent out the 6i lakh model firmware to their 7i lock models oh my god was that the technical reason for why that happens but just an example of like lucky derp we're moving to the next phase of whatever and we have internet connected locked isn't all about David's and Doug's Brender all of your locks yes and now she can't guarantee we're locked out so that guy sucks the company offer it affected companies affected customers what two options either return the back portion of the lock to lock state so the firmware can be updated manually with a turnaround time of five to seven days or request a replacement interior lock with the turnaround time of 14 to 18 days in the meantime you can still use an actual key so that's good thank God that's a thank God for analog that's good doesn't just save the day still we're super clutch that is I can just imagine people like you lockstate gotta have tweeting from my porch does that backwards compatibility you know we're there whatever the tech about like we're gonna move to the next version we're gonna like other stuff we're not gonna support that stuff anymore yeah when you stop supporting analog yeah it's not let's try not to do that yeah you need a backup plan when digital I can't go anywhere all right let's move on to the final structured somewhat segments rate they show which is Las Vegas Las Vegas mainly what's another excuse to use my lower third said I made Las Vegas like Vegas one of the better or lower thirds we've done it's kind of fun guys so we're gonna talk a little bit about saying yeah we already talked a little bit about big on cows after the show Vega actually launched yesterday morning and be like there's been like it since several years yeah Oh crazy Wow anyway though there's been lots of reviews they were they were all over the place yeah Vega everywhere Vega is a mixed bag when you look at it directly but we're gonna marinate we're gonna go over a few of the results from the reviews this first one we're looking at is from PC perspective and of course these are all linked in the video description down below yep PC perspective got their hands on the Vegas 64 the 64 liquid and the Vegas 56 hmm there they are all next to their frontier editions and everything like that they did a crap-ton to testing they actually 175 grafts in this entire thing so again guys these are all linked in the description down below so check them out if you're really interested in some more detailed in-depth vaga coverage as well as full charts can carrying like the Vega 64's and the 56 is to other cards and their frequencies and all that good stuff I'm gonna I'm gonna jump ahead wait do it wait wait jump around Wow Ryan Ryan this first page is really long you got fan spin again let's go let's look at some results let's look at GTA 5 e anyone from Indies watching another that good GTA 5 GTA 5 was universally not good performance with Vega for me like I mean it's not like a terrible performance like it couldn't perform but like just significantly lower favored favorited yeah for sure it's correct x11 of course but the Vega cards in this one are the orange line and the green line and you can see those are the lower lines here when you compare them to the upper lines which are the 1080 and of course the 1080i which is way up there but yeah GTA 5 the Vega was was that pasted in I mean Cal you you've done some benchmarks now yeah you've tested both cards right yeah what do you think I mean I feel like it really just depends I feel like that like Vega 56 I've done more testing with Vega 56 believe it or not than I had a vague 64 I feel like that's the car that most people are keeping their eye on because it's a just a bit more attractive of a price point it's it's a tad more accessible so I've found that the like Vega 56 and the gtx 1070 trade blows often almost to the point where like i did my my redo lend my redux or whatever benchmarks today and I found that the gtx 1070 performed well like less than 1% better on average than vega 56 and that was manually overclocking both cards but i felt like it was is more or less of washing my eyes because the the cards were trading blows like left and right so it really just depends on a number of factors what game you're playing if that game's DirectX 11 director stole what API are using what CPU using with its I mean there's so many variables that that you could easily skew any results to be like in favor of Vega 56 or in the GTX 1070 and I think what it boils down to at this point is price we don't really know it's too early to tell and gamers next to sort of commented on this as well or they don't really know exactly where Vega stands at this point because the pricing is still so up in the air obviously with the the fact that it's gone completely out of stock and we're still waiting for the Adhan board partner variants to come around we don't really know we can't give a full response but what we know right now is at least for Vega 56 it stays pretty competitive performance wise with the gtx 1070 and we're gonna have to wait on some more pricing details to really determine whether or not it's a it's a better buy so yeah yeah I mean I agree vega 56 at 400 bucks is something that you could you can have an argument with someone about yeah whether they should get the 1070 or the Vega 56 definitely if someone was like hey I've got let's say eight hundred bucks to spend I've already got a you know an okay computer I want a new graphics card and I want to get in on this variable refresh rate thing I want I want some some some vsync or some g-sync I'm sorry I want some g-sync or some free sync in my life then you could very easily say oh well yeah you should obviously go for Megan 56 yeah because you're gonna spend 400 bucks on the graphics card you can get a very decent free sync monitor for 400 bucks and you're off to the races now if someone isn't in that monitor equation when they're looking for a monitor then maybe the the conversation changes if someone is in a situation where they're like you know what efficiency is really important to me you know my electricity costs are already really really always really high and that kind of thing that changes the conference a little bit but the fact that you can you can say - you know even even even you know 25 percent of people like this is the card that you want to get I think is significant because prior to now at the $400 price range it was just like you really get a 1070 yeah which 1071 pay yeah you know yeah yeah so yeah that and and the precinct thing I think I think is makes it something that should be seriously considered the mega64 like is harder to as a harder sell for sure yeah like I think so too because the performance is the performance gap between Vega 56 I'm sorry Vega 64 and the GTX 1080 is quite a bit whiter I would say in my testing then they get 56 and the GTX 1070 um but you can find a GTX 1084 not a whole lot more than an air-cooled reference rx Vega 64 so like I said in my previous videos like the relationship between Vega 56 and the 1080 is completely different than that of the Vega 50 I'm sorry Vega 64 and 1080 it's completely different than Vega 36 and the 1070 I think it's gonna boil down to the monitor I feel like a lot of people who are really wanting adaptive refresh rate in their lives and they want to get on that bandwagon if if the price of a free sync monitor is going to be less than what they would pay for a juicing panel and that's going to offset what they would spend overall on an AMD setup then I think there is a case for Vega 64 but if you already have a display or you're not interested in adaptive refresh rate then overall the GT 610 ad according to my tests offers the better value overall frames per dollar bang for the buck whatever you want to call it it's pretty fast card and I've seen a few people in chat say precinct shouldn't be shouldn't be the deciding factor and I firmly know and you're right leads Anish there's a lot of people who is that really factored in at all no not at all and it is somewhat disappointing that in order to make a case for some of these GPUs you have you say that route exactly because they get was so anticipated for so long right so I mentioned a little bit on Cal's half of the show that I spent a significant amount of time in the past 48 hours going back over my history of YouTube videos and updating the description because I was violating an Amazon affiliate code that jerusem servicing and I had to remove a bunch of links that were there I have to you that too tomorrow and I was going through the same thing tomorrow and I was going back historically and I was like when did we start talking about Vega and it's just so long ago it was this was well over a year ago right I'm like man that really has been a long yeah wait for launch you know me like alright there's been so we're gonna be here by the end of the first half of 2017 yeah and then I got here's a little mag here's frontier Edition for fifteen hundred dollars or whatever for for workstations I got two more months alright so yeah the Vega launch I think if you compare it especially to something like a thread Ripper launch has been a little bit of a letdown sure but that's not to say that it is a hundred percent failure I would I wouldn't I want to call that call it that by any stretch but I think a lot of its going to depend on availability over the next few weeks and especially leading up to like Black Friday time period when lots of people are looking to buy stuff whether or not they can keep it in stock and whether or not like we sort of briefly discussed on your half of the show is gonna be any Chindit changes to MSRP I don't think there is going to be but you might just see it not be available directly from any you know new egg stock that's just always gonna be gone yeah and the offers you're gonna see you're always gonna be third-party sellers who are selling the wings the $400 bag at fifty six for six or seven hundred dollars or something like that yeah that might just be what happens yep but we'll see yeah anyway a couple more reviews to your gamers Nexus I tried to pull some reviews from from people who I think do a pretty good job at reviewing I like reading gamers Nexus reviews because I just feel like a lot of times they're their unique content their get-go like from the beginning how we're gonna take a look at this card is different like the first chart they show you is Vega 56 running it four different power states with various different memory configurations set up bacon 56 reference stock showing this Vega 56 with 50% power increased only which does a huge jump up yeah anyone who's getting a Vega 56 or a Vega 64 this is the power limits yeah just go just go into the Radeon settings boom and change your power slider to 50% I noticed that and that's a huge leap in performance yeah beyond that they're testing actual frequency over clocks and then actual memory over clocks they also found that the HBM to memory over clocks were providing just as much if not more of a increase in performance as they frequency over clocks so that's gonna be another thing to take a closer look at there's also another thing that I noticed in the hardware info 64 monitoring utility was it has a GPU and the HBM memory freak temperature is both right there and the HBM to memory temperature with the HBM to overclocked getting hotter than the the core core temp which made me think like hmm maybe I need to start monitoring the HBM to temps as well hmm but beyond that one other video if you guys haven't checked that already I highly recommend you order box hardware unboxed Steve I like Steve Steve somehow got his his Vega 56 like in 36 hours he tested 25 games and made this video on it lights I hate him I hate him he must have like a band of monkeys or at least 20 armed terrible person to do all these benchmarks no he's he's brilliant he's got a he's got some excel tricks that I want to actually do the benchmark Kings but Steve tested this I'm finished I'm sorry Vega 56 on 25 different games his tests show it again like lots of us have shown Vega 56 and the GTX 970 kind of going back and forth trading blows he didn't do overclocking with this so bear that in mind as well but some some excellent performance numbers there and Steve talks you through them as well so check that video out if you guys are interested it's linked in the description of this video it's gonna be on that's that's about all I had to say about that cool exciting stuff it's great it's great to just look at all the reviews and benchmarks and Jeff that's that's my I'm phoning in but phoning in hardcore right now Paul that's fine all I can think about the dinner feast that wifey sauce is prepared for me when I get home that's kind of exciting I think my wife brought something home I get I can't quite see what it is there something in a bag chicken I'm down for some chicken a bunch of drugs alright let's do some Q&A let's Q&A in the show hey donation with the Q's and a Steven hill for the 15 bucks spreading the financial love keep up the work guys try and fit some gaming in with the work you know we try we try it's tough you know we gain when we benchmark I've gotten really good at the first level of battlefield one yeah I never really I never got battlefield one so I haven't benchmarked it yeah I don't know I just never did I don't know why I pressed should I mean it's one of those benchmarks a lot of people expect it's very good for CPU testing and stuff we'll say Jonathan Cruz $5 I got a 95 6600 K and a GTX 970 I only do 1080p gaming but I don't know if I should wait for coffee lake for the i7 and Volta and get 220 ATT eyes to make a new PC and you're fine entirely up to you but I think for a 1080p gaming you're fine a 6600 K and a GTX 970 is vimes gaming I was gonna play with those same specs at 1440p so yeah you're good automatic man if you've got money falling out of your butt then maybe consider swapping at 970 for a 10 series card but you're fine hi Bank man thank you the automatic donation hey cow can I have a super motivational Asian message to get me through personal physical training oh man now I feel I can actually make up a message for you like a automatic Matt you don't need to worry you don't need to worry about your personal physical training you have to you have the big Cocker and the bigger master to get through it all you have amber for motivation you better than the the other stupid hmm the white paper white people are weak and fever they ought to know the wood has a secret Asian secret that we all really reven said about half ancient Chinese secret do you very well you the fat ancestor that we all work a forward to I pray to you every day every day I kissed your feet on the cheek of your feet and make a special special sacrifice compiled ram chicken all right yeah you get the point good lucky automatic master all of your and all of your training I'd say I'd say Matt got his money's worth there El Jefe reviews $5 Cal murd my wife's name ended the episode that stay positive service is coming to an FA and but I'm I don't I don't got him at all I'm sure I put your dreams in this episode so we can say El Jefe over and over again we're pretty confident with that one Homs Brendan misses with fifty Norwegian Crona finally back to live watching what's your thoughts about liquid metal for CPU and GPU instead of thermal paste liquid oh whoa I've never tried it I haven't like done an extensive amount of testing with that or something something liquid metal to me is one of those things it's like a premium product that typically costs a lot more yeah it can't improve temperatures ever so slightly but it's just one of those niche things that I feel like makes a lot more sense for people who are going for world record over clocks and that kind of thing than people who are like I really wanted 24/7 overclock or whatever I like the amount of extra performance you get for the cost of the liquid metal Tim is yeah but yeah this is totally anecdotal so I could be wrong true but I like to qualify things I say at the end of awesome hardware episode after every me a lot in it I feel like for the most part just regular ngon liquid metal thermal interface material thermal compound is going to be sufficient for most people's needs unless you're doing some really high end or like extreme overclocking and you don't want to dabble into ln2 because it's not sustainable for 24/7 use then maybe but if you're if you're just doing a normal overclock like anyone else I think I think you don't need you just you just as long as you're below t.j.maxx you're it's really anything that's gonna be good TJ did you realize there's a jingle for TJ Maxx whenever you did I didn't but now I do and now forever you ever seen in local TV like in the 80s probably not I was like a baby in the automatic Matt five dollar donation when do you guys think the next-gen of GPUs will launch trying to plan ahead for post BCT celebration well we never never never Voltas never coming there we will launch Volta whizzing Pascal sucks and Pascal doesn't suck so you don't get Volta no I don't know Matt I hope I hope sooner rather than later but I don't expect any time this year I don't see NVIDIA having the need to do that ya know a hard one boxed high in chat they suggested that people use a thermal Grizzly conductance or conductive not okay I've never used but I trust them trust them wholeheartedly with my life it sounds like a Steve got something you can only get on Australia or something thermo grizzly it's like the one leg up that Australia has on the rest of the world grizzly cats on this how does it feel like a butchering like you in a baby it's all blurry accidents awful all right uh-huh automatic Matt again automatic modern five more dollars shoutout to right connect for the helpful info on the army whoo we'd love helpful army information indeed Jonathan Cruz five dollars by the way from my question I plan on getting three ROG 1440p 165 Hertz IPS monitors that's why I'm thinking of waiting get to 20 atti that makes a lot more sense thank you for explaining that job in the blanks very very crucial it's changed their opinion if yep get get two of those 20 ATT eyes for sure I agree tax or x95 excellent what does a good computer case needs to have room for water cooling turn the bus preferably white where it gets tricky is I want one where I can flip the motherboard tray so window is on the right ah I have the perfect idea just I think if that guy should be able to say oh well yeah this friend has that exact configuration do you know yes of course not of course there no I was gonna say the dark base 900 in white from be quite oh I think that cable they did a limited number of white version it isn't even out yet yes it's not even out yet I can't say the release date it's coming soon but if you're willing to spend the amount to whatever they're charging for it's a really good case it's a really great case regardless of the call you get it if you a large it's gonna be hard anyways it's super large and I believe you can flip the motherboard and stuff I think you can the whole orientation I think that was one of the main features so did I do that and it's got a beautiful tempered-glass site Palin so look into that honestly that's the only one I know it though so sorry I can't help with all of those things yeah that's very specific good question of mb 67 $20 here's a little something from Temecula wine tastings with mrs. Palmer thank you or 67 are you guys going wine tasting in Temecula we just we did we just did in the vlog that we posted she nodded and said thank you as well thank you and b6 yeah yeah to make you look great it is it's a great it's local it is you have to embrace some varietals that aren't quite as well known though because the bridles that thrive in Temecula aren't exactly your like garden variety Merlot Wow well aren't you the distinguished wine oh look at you yes I am you know there's you know there's also a ballast point in Temecula really there's a ballast point brewery in particular they have a place for you Fuli they have a kitchen and I don't sort of think we should go that next time it's the perfect thing to do right after you go wine tasting David Cho dhf I don't you heard them when you realize that a woman you were talking two weeks ago was flirting and you would've gotten her move damn it power I spoke ooh top third the V child David child sorry I have to see this man hey I don't know it's all about that like the awareness you have to be in the moment at the time and yeah what's going on yeah yeah but yeah sometimes you don't see it till later and that's always said you gotta hand it to like super douchebags who were just somehow miraculously amazing with women it's like that's like the like God put you on this earth just for that reason cuz you suck at everything else but good lord I could never talk to a woman like that again keep keep your eyes up in thievery and maybe there'll be a second chance yeah oh my Jesus okay well we'll get around to that donation I did not see that right now uh Thomas look ins $5 ecigs can be had for 300 bucks with 2x fifty-five 70s or the two series are even cheaper on eBay up to 3 plus gigahertz seems good for work flow on the cheap and gaming z6 hundreds so that's I would I would I would be fine with that as workflow options he's talking about the Xeon the Xeon stuff we're talking about earlier okay with dual 55 seventies so I'd be curious is with that as far as workflow options for something that was heavily multi-threaded like doing video editing or something like that or other workstation tasks I'd be curious as far as the gaming performance because gaming typically loves clock speed and Zeon's are not typically known for that and also usually can't be overclocked or at all from my knowledge so I'd be curious about the gaming performance but that would be an interesting thing to look into yeah you need that Thank You Thomas thank you notice tomas coos allison $20 i so have been drinking been meetings donate since Paul said Tycho was his favorite band me too everyone go raid awake by Tycho thank you both for the show stay awesome yep psychos oh that's hectic the best yeah thank you very much listening to take oh right before Cal get here yep there the great for building building music remember I'm sitting there and I'm like doing something and I'm like I'm inefficient and I suck and then I put on Tyco and then I'm like I'm just doing things now yep anything's happened it's awesome great for chillin here for working out that way for LSD all right Jeremy Mikkola $20 I've read that an O seed 1,800 X puts out 110 plus watts of heat do you think it tastes like an s 340 or P 400 would be a good pairing or would they struggle with thermals both of those cases as long as they're properly equipped with case fans and some he says Super Mario if you have an AI oh you're fine yeah you're totally good man it has to be 40 is prank I feel like both of those cases are practically built for AI o units and remember that there's like a lot of air coolers of three four or five years ago we're rated for 140 to 180 watts yeah 110 watts isn't that insane as far as heat dissipation goes we're getting much liquid you're totally good and as far as case goes there's lots of cases with lots of different configurations add more fins if you're concerned about her flow add more fins yep and absolutely unless so we've got one from dr. B 19 $10 Paul it's driving me crazy I know what a weeping angel is but what is that other the other character on that t-shirt you wear oh I was waiting in yesterday's those of you yeah it's boo it's Mario it's a ghost from Super Mario Brothers yep and he and it's the same it's the same sort of thing because any time you look at boo he freezes but as soon as you look away he comes towards you yeah it's the same sort of thing with the weeping angel correct yes more or less I'm not so precise they're looking at each other both of them have to be frozen covered so they're both frozen that theoretically there's ways you could talk about that and like the game theory different base their motive it's a weeping angel and a boo it's one of those crossover shirts yet beautiful all right Enrique de la Garza for the $5 I already own a gtx 1070 should i invest in a 1080i for a new ultra wide set up or buy a second 1070 to do sli 1080i yep i go all the way ago for the single today's less heat less power just as much performance if not so if not more so than depending on the game and stuff but usually a single faster GPU is going to dominate the gtx or dominate a multi-gpu set especially because every game is optimized to run one GPU not all games are optimized for multi-gpu configurations yes so bear that in mind less heat less power more support go for the 1080i man you limping $11.99 next six pack on me you got it that's a premium six pack for a living ninety-nine as hell yeah gonna get some sculpin Gerar like that drawled from a $10.60 should I saw my GTX 1066 ski you might to a minor and purchase a minor minor like cryptocurrency minor not like under 18 and purchase of a get 56 to go with my free sync monitor also I tweeted you my PC part pick the link to my raggy both are bear very busy but criticism is appreciated Cheers alright so the GT is 10 seconds 16 it depending on how much you can sell it to that minor to purchase Vega 56 would be an upgrade if you can swing it I would try to get if you can buy the Vega 56 first yeah like get yourself your Vega 56 and then sell your 1066 gig yeah don't don't tell you don't sell your 1066 UEFA's you might not be able to get big if it yeah because Vega 56 might be a pipe dream at 400 bucks indeed it's it's still yet to be determined fully yeah but yeah if you can do that then I would say yes for a free sync monitor you know it's gonna be a nice upgrade documents you will actually be able to use it versus with 1060 yep Maxwell Marin do you think the workstation benchmarks by tech Gamescom would justified Vega 56 or 64 for pro users not gamers I am not familiar with tech gauge calm in their benchmarks hey I did look very specifically at those but some of the benchmarks on Vega 64 and 6 Bega 64-56 have been focused on workstation stuff and actually it's pretty good at that in fact same sort DNA as the Omega seems to outperform Nvidia equivalent with workstation stuff so might be something that's viable for you max well again I don't want to say yes do this or no don't do that because I really haven't fully looked at that article it was very it was a quick glance earlier today maybe give it another week or so and there's there's lots of tests that already happens there's lots more tests going on right now people are gonna still be posting stuff give it give it a little time to see how things play out see if you can see specific benchmarks run on your workstation applications and I'll give you a better idea of what to expect deep next house wife Heather head of there the ten dollars Wow okay Paul enjoy my donation for hosting there also please ask Kyle when he will be home for dinner I'm hungry these donations are fun from the super awesome wifey sauce Cal will be home when the donations finished and they keep rolling in yeah never I'll be home when you stop trolling me on stream woman and you're damn right dinner dinner battery reddit when I walk in those doors no I like we're almost done Ramos tonight turned into a redneck castle when I talk to my wife by my bits five dollars if you had to choose between tacos or pizza for the rest of your life as the only food you could eat which one oh pizza I think tacos Bacchus pizza pizza is delicious tacos has a bit more nutrition in it maybe just a little bit like you got you got you know some lettuce tomato yeah I haven't got tacos tacos they're more flexible food they are but by minutes I've watched several of your flex videos recently actually Miguel Rubio $10 going to quakecon nobody could ever even do a quick con I'm sorry it's just too many things that I want to I'm just so tired right I know he's looking for a week where I have minimal things planned where Paul and I are will be attending sleep con this year exactly every day Logan C $10 Paul how about more lawn vids no Logan come on one thing I'll do videos where I'm building stuff and I'm planning to build more stuff once things stop launching but then you could have like nori like prancing around your grass you could you be like get off there will be more like like Paul's hardware vlogs and or a garage were clogs I probably won't focus much more than on lawn mowing though it was it was fascinating one else I feel I can only get away with one of those dry world Jerald my bucket Ellis who would win in a fight between the grilled cheese in the taco again with the tacos Hawk hot rod fans anyone Bueller grilled cheese on the taco I think the taco would win taco just seems mean and like you know especially if it's a hard shell okay probably has a rough exterior I agree grilled cheese seems a little little spineless and confused about the hot rod question of instance no I'm not Thank You gerald I've currently got a GTX 970 overclocked to 1.8 gigahertz how long should I wait before considering an upgrade twist to 1070 1080 or Vega I like the 970m you if you're gaming at 1080 and even even if you're in 1440 wait for the next generation wait for 2000 series whatever comes next at this point it's only a year away Jetix with pyro heroes best processor to pair with the gtx 1080i for 4k gaming only I would probably not settle for less 7700 okay or you know like a high-end desktop platform chip but obviously that's not going to be quite as good for gaming for the most realistic flame rings you want a 77 okay that's overclocked to 5 gigahertz or so or for 77 40k that's also overclocked but that's really impractical as far as how much money you have to spend exactly so yeah 77 American yep last last donation here of the night Sebastian Casilla for the 8 ee Argentinian something I found a Corsair h-60 100 bucks but people tell me in some forums that isn't worth the money and should stay with air for my 7700 K nice show as always I don't think it is either h-60 should cost much less than 6 50 60 bucks just get get a 240 millimeter a io 4 years 7700 K so you can overclock it to 5 gigahertz like Paul said really get the most out of it that's one of those few chips that gets hot enough to really warrant spending the extra premium on a 240 millimeter a IO you will be happy that you did it you'll be able to overclock it as much as you want and squeeze the most performance out of that chip if you are gonna go air cooling get it and get a nice beefy air cooler that performs well maybe a Noctua or a be quiet cooler something something substantial that's going to be able to handle the the TVP on that guy and the the heat output that it exhibits but for the most part a chip Seifer 100 is not a good deal okay uh two quick shoutouts CH row 0 302 and Justin 63 thank you guys both for your donations you did already do last call so we don't have time to actually answer your questions but we did want to say thank you really quick as well as a big thank you to you guys who tuned in for the show you guys are awesome thanks for watching thumbs up button of course otherwise if you enjoyed it and yeah will be will be we have lots of videos coming 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