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update the description I think I did for Twitter now for no I didn't I didn't hello youtube hello everyone hello anyone who's watching us live welcome to awesome hardware give me give me just a moment here to show this the show where the hosts are ready we are always prepared and ready to go at a moment's notice save alright it's cool anyway this is a show we talk about technology usually it's based on like computers mostly we talk without computers we build computers you do a lot and we're gonna drink some beer occasionally we might use some foul language so bear that in mind we try to keep it you know appropriate when we are we're only cust about things we get we get upset about every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. Pacific we stream this live show both to twitch.tv slash awesome hardware if you wanna watch on switch or if you want to watch on our YouTube channels were streaming to my channel right now Paul somewhere and about an hour we'll switch over to Cal's channel and stream the second half to his we're on episode 118 right now so you're watching 118 - eh today we're going to explore among other things my continued use of the Las Vegas lower thirds because I made it special and I'm gonna bring as much life out of it as possible also the greatest threat to humanity will be covering that command yeah and then we have some random other stuff this this shows gonna be gonna be casual we're gonna keep things mellow super easy because honestly there's not like a ton of tech news going on right now a lot of the launches that have happened recently I've kind of started to die out there building up to some new ones although they get 56 didn't did just launched so I guess I guess that's the thing yeah I don't know I'm gonna try to get rid of this hideous Claire on your body I kind of like the glare it's like yeah no it's that one there you go yeah just do shadow puppets it's on Paul's chest you know it's yeah see it's a tell a story okay okay totally blocking man I mean oh wow that's really brain yeah it is it's really hot in Southern California right now we're going through a little bit of a end of the summer heat wave time it's about 105 to 110 degrees Fahrenheit and it's it's been warm we should have our conditioner in here for the next 20 minutes at which point we will start to suffer immensely while Kyle is stacking boxes it's literally the very top I know of the window that is housing at chances that that's gonna fall over zero totally zero well there I'll tweet it and you guys can fortunately we live in an area that's not very earthquake prone okay so cool if you guys watch our shows and you like to help support us and buy some merchandise check that out and do that if you're interested by stores Paul's armor down net I've got a bunch of shirts and some decals we've got stickers be nice meteors are gonna get popular again as summer ends and winter winter is upon us winter is coming when winters here should be here soon bigwig tech slash stores Cal store he's got fitted spinners some ball caps and also shirts and and glasses and it's all real high quality stuff if you buy stuff during the show we will shout out your name at the end of the show it's a lovely tradition everyone enjoys it okay let's sort of into the first part the first segment to the show which is Las Vegas I've also just realized that I haven't tweeted an I should tweet that segment name always throws me off even now lots of legas anything to do it's it's it's Spanish for the Vegas Vegas moly but relevant so I think I've been using this mainly to talk about AMD's Vegas stuff and it's it's out now it's not as exciting as some people were we're hoping it would be the performance isn't quite as much as people were hoping it would be overpriced because of Bitcoin mining but we're gonna continue to explore this and there's a little bit more information to come out over the past week so let's talk about that let's say once I do this tweet audio is super low again 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think her big I assume all right now that we have started the show off with our traditional disabilities let's start off with this story from tweak town from our friend Anthony who has used his insider information his poll in the industry to discover some bit more information than we have been able to get directly from AMD about how many actual Vega cards are out there according to tweak town over 25,000 is what they're saying here Anthony got this information by speaking to an industry source who doesn't want to be named now I know how Anthony feels about sources that don't want to be named but this article is still there and 25,000 appears to be the number of Radeon rx Vega graphics cards that AMD is sold in the past two and a half weeks since lunch which is not a small amount but it's not quite like a huge amount either you know here's here's here's what I was comparing this to which was we went to an AMD Vega and thread Ripper events at the very end of July about a month ago now and I'm pretty sure I'm remembering this correctly I was gonna double-check with you but you remember them saying these that that the number of high-end graphics cards sold per quarter was about a million yeah I do memory okay that's that's four across that's nvidia and AMD so right there talking high-end graphics cards i didn't I didn't I don't know what the price cut off they were using but I'm guessing it's 400 bucks since that's the price that they originally said they were gonna sell Vega 56 for but 25,000 in two and a half weeks I was doing some math in my head and I didn't get very far because math in your head is confusing but there's about 13 weeks per quarter two and a half weeks is you know we'll say a quarter of that amount so that seems like they should have sold a lot more like ten times more I mean you gotta you got to take other things into account though but in that time period in two and a half weeks if you can assume that the million cards per quarter number is accurate then two and a half weeks would be about two hundred and fifty thousand at crank think right I I don't do math in my head I I don't I don't I don't with Mathematica recorder is 13 weeks two and a half weeks is how long the cards have been out and they sold twenty five thousand and two and a half weeks so if we can assume that it's two hundred fifty thousand per two and a half week period since that's a quarter of a quarter and let's assume so does ten times I was right let's and let's assume that's the entire market which includes Nvidia and we also know that NVIDIA has a pretty substantial amount of market share right now you can call that 60 you can call that like 75 percent know that looked at numbers there was maybe about a hundred thousand units if we're calling that hat even if we're calling it they should be selling a quarter of the number of the cards that NVIDIA has been selling that would be how much is that that'd be sixty two thousand sixty two thousand sixty two and a half thousand so it seems like they're a little short on the actual number of cards that they need to produce if they actually want to hit even a quarter of the amount of market share that they talked about as far as what's available at the high ends when they're talking about selling cards clearly of a shortage 400 or 500 bucks yeah I should have that know some of this math is okay a quarter is 18 weeks I don't do I don't do math on your half of the show I've seen weeks those do matters 52 weeks in a year and 52 divided by four is thirteen true right are you sure there's 52 weeks new year yes okay cuz it four times twelve God well 4 times 12 is 48 but there's more than revenues every month is that's why I went with how many weeks in a year not how many months in a year divided by it's not same oh it's about 51 weeks what in a year you touch yeah 365 days right 365 divided by 7 7 days in a week it's 52 I don't know why I don't know to use a calculator all right it's it's see it's okay if you don't know how to math but if you don't know how to use a calculator either you're kind of screwed yeah so - yes you're right / for a quarter that is 13 weeks 13 weeks in a course you're right I'm right about sanity check all right divide 13 by 4 divide that by 4 you're talking about three point two five weeks okay so that's not exactly right there it hasn't been out for quite a quarter of a quarter but as we will find out more as we continue on to our next story in Las Vegas they're not expecting like tons more anytime soon or at least according to the rumor in this Texas net article basically taiwan's digi times which is the periodical I don't was enough periodical there's a website they cover the tech news and that kind of thing they talked to upstream supply chain sources and upstream supply chain sources have told them that due to technical difficulties there's an insufficient amount of and and sufficient couple that an insufficient supply insufficient supply as it's so difficult say the words of components for AMD Radeon rx Vega GPUs there's some perhaps it's not exactly clear what specific components they talk about or what specific issues are talking about is what's maybe limiting the supply here but some sources say that it's the process of integrating the high bandwidth memory the HBM to memory and the GPU because it has significantly raised difficulty of the related packaging process and hence resulted in low yield rates integrating the HBM into the GPUs what it was what I should say there others claim the shortages are due to technical issues with advanced semiconductor Engineering's packaging technology because these are all disparate components that come together from different locations to make each actual Vega GPU which if you look at is the GPU dye itself a couple HP m2 memory stacks they're all installed on a substrate material ace or advanced semiconductor engineering receives radian rxt eiga GPUs that are either that are manufactured on globalfoundries 14 nanometer FinFET manufacturing process as well as ATM to memory either from SK Hynix or Samsung and then they package them using SI P single inline package technology and put it all together Andy says that the current shortage should be rectified with Vega product expected to be pushed out in coming days that's not very specific in coming days is seemingly the term that they five years from now yeah I mean the coming days it leaves a wide range it seems like it's a very short period of time but you could say well the coming days six months and from now is still the coming days from now the supply chain sources that were specifically referenced in the article however say that the limited supply of Vega GPUs could mean shortages until October which is at minimum a month from now since it's August 29th hmm I should say it minimum just over a month from now but there you have it if you were trying to get a hold of Vega if you're wondering about the prices are so high if you're wondering what AMD means when they say like we have a difficulty meeting demand it's because there's just not enough of the Vega cards actually out there and based on some of this information it seems like yeah like very obvious why there everything's overpriced is because they can't even get enough cards out there to sell them to the people who are even willing to buy them for 100 or 200 bucks more than the MSRP that they told us it would be when the reviewers did our reviews but there it is I will say for those of you like asking in chat like well why didn't he just go with Gigi Gigi are 5 or 5 X instead of HBM - there's a really great article on gamers Nexus on Y AMD sort of had to use HBM - I was going to talk about on my half the show but I ran out of time so I don't opportunity I don't have time to actually talk about it but you should go look at that article because it looks really interesting and everything they do is also so quick plug for the show most gamers Nexus article that we won't be talking about a cow's position yep but ever go check that out link for it exists I skimmed a little bit and it seems it's very interesting ok alright one final story on this brief little segment this isn't specifically as much about Vega but hey I make things in segments so wait now that's the rum story that's let's talk about this one here so we've talked on this on the show a lot about cryptocurrency mining how it affects GPU prices and everything there have been lots of theories about how video card manufacturers might deal with this here is one that has just recently started happening which is a sticker that NO 3d has been apparently putting on at least some of their products some of their GPUs that have been selling it's specifically a message to warn cryptocurrency coin miners that they are possibly warning their warranty if they use their graphics card for mining and a big part in this reason is probably because graphics cards typically aren't designed to run 24/7 especially not 24/7 under full load but that is what cryptocurrency miners are doing they're setting up a mining rig turning it on I'm letting it run is there any way for a vendor to verify this or to enforce this that's a good question came with like overclocking and stuff yeah I don't think so I like I don't think there's specifically some way that they can look and be like this was used for cryptocurrency so yeah guru 3d the writer of the article specifically wonders if our may return rates have gone up as mining has become more popular I wanted to phrase that very specifically because it's a bit of speculation in the article and we don't know that our may rates have gone up we can maybe assume that and I'd be interested if there's any other like actual confirmation from a video card manufacturer if there are may rates have gotten worse as cryptocurrency and what mining has become more popular be a cool graph I'm having difficulty pronouncing words today you haven't drink enough that's why that's a yeah apparently should drink more but yeah like he'll said how would I not really even know if the GPU had been used to mine I theorized you know how they might do that I mean if you can if you sell a graphics card that you know you've produced six months ago and you sold to a distributor six months ago and that was probably sold to a customer five months ago and then they've had it for five months and then you get it as a return and it comes in and it's caked with dust and it looks like you know it's been through hell could you be like this was obviously you overused more than it beyond what its intended use was probably not even in that situation where you have like this time frame to work with there's too many variables and too many questions like oh maybe it was just a very dusty environment they used it in or something like that that's probably not how this works and that's probably not why they're putting these stickers on the boxes they're probably more specifically doing this just to put it out there that they've made a statement that they have something in writing that says that they have the rights to refuse your warranty if you have been using your card for cryptocurrency mining for most people if you just bought a card and you're like well I'm building a gaming rig but I do mine sometimes because you know my electricity is cheap or something like that like am I gonna void my warranty by mining on my card sometimes probably not because they probably have no way to do this or to track that what it's probably more there for is to prevent large establish mining operations from abusing RMA policies and returning large numbers of cards that they have bought at retail of that kind of thing and I've definitely seen this type of thing both for manufacturers as well as like retailers where you make a statement you put something in writing it's not necessarily something that you can enforce or go after every single instance of violation of but because you've established that and put that in mining if you have a customer who's like yeah put that in because I what I sent you said put it in mining I said in writing I was just slurring my spell okay sir trained it I'm slowing my hearing right but yeah because you said that then you do have the ability in certain circumstances to possibly you know tell a customer who's tried to arm a three hundred cards in the past month maybe these cards are being abused or something like that I don't know yeah um so yeah I wanted to point this out just because we've been kind of covering this topic I'm not exactly sure how effective this might be I don't know if this is something that is gonna catch on and that more video video card manufacturers are gonna start doing in case you guys were wondering this came from reddit and the user bought an into 3d gtx 1066 gigabyte I chill x3 v2 and then they got the card saw the sticker on it posted it to Reddit and that's how this was picked up soo there you go it could also just be more of like a preventative like a pre-emptive measure right just to discourage some people who might be sort of paranoid or more cautious about it to just right up front like okay I'm just gonna go with a graphics card that doesn't have that warning flat out yeah just just for peace of mind right so I mean I'm sure that's effective to some degree and not so effective to another degree but you know they do what they can I guess yeah but it's at least nice to see some a bit more direct effort by an onboard manufacturer to instead of releasing a BIOS catered for crypto miners yeah yeah all right let's move on it's a sword fight fight Cal and I can argue but I have some pressing to do for today's sword fight oh so this actually came out just a little over a week ago but Elon Musk and I wrote a letter they cam an open letter him and 115 other experts in artificial intelligence wrote an open letter to the United Nations including Elon Musk as well as like alphabets artificial intelligence expert Mustafa Suleiman warning that we should ban killer robots and killer AI because they're bad they're evil and as this article specifically points out and they did too in the letter that they feel it's a bigger threat then North Korea with nukes which I mean we're gonna argue we're gonna figure this out right now the article specifically quotes that lethal autonomous weapons I'm sorry the letter a quote from a letter lethal autonomous weapons that's what we're talking about a weapon that can kill you and that can do it without any other input from a person like that like if the camera that we're looking at right now could shoot bullets and decide to kill us right now if the show sucked maybe that's the future that's probably that's a little far-fetched that's a little far-fetched but freaking me out man it doesn't mean that it's not something we should discuss it all if you guys want to be freaked out like obviously you got to use Terminator 2 Rises the machines because that's what's happening hopefully they don't look like that well they when it becomes you know when it comes to your front door he doesn't look like that well this was made by a machine and they specifically designed it to be intimidating so looks scary to people I said hey that's why they designed in that death there's several articles linked in this video's description if you guys are at all interested in reading up a little bit more on this but for instance there are several arms makers that have been working on developing and demonstrating even autonomous weapons the Russian arms maker the coalition akov group is developing a suite of fully automated weapons turret based this one's a little automated tank look how cute it is it can look cute yeah just like little tank rolls up to you until it blows up your family time is tank and then it like goes and explodes your house because you didn't because you were busy spoke negatively about the government or something like that remotely piloted drones that keys you know drone then this guy this guy's actually that's a killer robot no this is professor professor Toby Walsh oh he says that all militaries are developing autonomous weapons so obviously this is something this is an issue and it's been described as the next leap in warfare and weaponry so that's a little scary there was a one a video you want one which which one probably this the scary Terminator one that's it you know you want a t-1000 I wanted t1000 that is just a guard that is fiction so you're looking at a combination here fictional things as well as actual things that have been created yes eventually it won't be fictional eventually t1 thousands will walk the earth probably probably get built by that old on there's a video on his tank he just showed us there's a video on a probably his father um SGR one there's a Sam samsung has a nice ad for their security guard robot see if you guys want to check this out real quick the security guard robot is a turret and it can it shoots web that shoots bullets and things at people its autonomous and they're there they're selling it as a replacement for like guard towers and stuff like that doesn't have the limitations of like people with their you know more roles and judgment about whether or not killing other people who's the right thing or wrong thing why is Samsung making this because there's a ton of money and military what military technology and weaponry I guess joking how much money government spend on this type of thing yeah but as opposed to like are they trying to sink this technology up with like the Galaxy s8 or something like that probably like ordering a strike from your smartphone type of thing most likely I don't know I don't know if there's this gry new with Android or anything like that yes app so obviously there's some scary stuff going on such as Samsung's auto turret that's being developed and but is this actually the greatest threat to humanity that's what we're gonna this argue and discuss right now because it's obviously been compared to North Korea so we got to take that into account and we'll see we'll see what this comes out to now as threats to humanity go I've tried to include all the major ones here and obviously analysts this shirt is this you know not going to be able to include everything that's why I've included the option number four which is that there are no threats to humanity right now let me post this in chat so people can go ahead and vote on that thank yourself for posting as well in twitch and whatnot so what do you think what is the greatest threat to humanity right now we got killer robots that includes a I we got North Korea as it does the options hmm bear in mind I didn't point this out I didn't say this specifically a lot of people already aware North Korea like yesterday I don't know if it's yesterday now it's a different time in North Korea they just shot another ballistic missile overshot Hokkaido which is the North northernmost island in Japan woke up a bunch of people at 6:00 a.m. with air-raid sirens and warnings that there is potentially going to be a missile that might blow up part of their city where they lived it's just rude that's kind of that's kind of a dick move North Korea I mean not yeah no yeah but then in that case I would say North Korea is the biggest greatest threat to humanity now because you know killer robots they're getting so advanced these days that eventually the AI will will reach a point where the robots can can feel emotions and they'll they'll acquire things we've all seen the movies we're like the stupid robot comes into the home and starts developing feelings for one of the characters one of the humans and then they get attached and then they try to do it but it doesn't work anatomically because it's just weird but that's besides the point the the robot the killer robots will eventually get so smart that they sort of become vulnerable whereas North Koreans will never have emotions and they will forever be I'm digging myself North Korea is gonna personally nuke me first hey I took a turn not take a turn why don't you just go all right as a casual casual episode um I rest my case all right so Kyle believes it's North Korea I'm gonna say I have to say killer robots obviously very scary we've we've all seen we've all seen turmeric Terminator and yeah I mean as as as frivolous as our show is all the time like and obviously I'm not gonna get too deep here or anything like that but it is pretty scary to think that there is currently being developed machines that whether it's artificial intelligence or some sort of advanced algorithm or something like that that potentially have the ability to use scanning technology use whatever ability they have to look at what's in front of them and make decisions that could potentially be a life or death death situation for a human that's pretty freaky that's scary I mean obviously when you come to like Elon Musk's take on this and everything if you've read up on any any stuff like that he's very concerned about the fact that like AI once it takes off once it starts learning can go beyond what humans are capable of doing and you we've reached the singularity where the AI intelligence surpasses humanity and then suddenly you're in a situation where you're pretty screwed because it's taken over all the interconnected like Internet of Things on the in the world and that kind of thing there's lots of doomsday scenarios and everything so all your all the smart homes become death homes yeah yeah I mean a smartlock you got a smart lock on your home it'll lock you inside or in a gas key or it just shoots you you're smart you're smart the possible you could shoot yeah I always wondered why it had a chamber of bullets inside of it anyway them for that patch update um I do want to point out that I that I do know where North Korea is on a math joke that is as an American that's something to be proud of okay let's look at the results of our generalize North Korea apparently everyone's freaked out about North Korea Elon Musk coming in second killer robots people not a sweet that about I think it's cuz you brought up having sex with them people are really yep you really don't want to condemn the killer robots until you know for sure whether or not they might have sex with you instead of killing you a man having sex with robots can be very dangerous can't blame anyone for that I think sex with anything to be dangerous I mean if you're doing it right rubber up kids okay let's move on to the final organized segments of my half which is gonna be some news again not a lot of tech stuff going on right now right now so here's an article since Tech so here's an article from TechCrunch I know this article does relate to us a little bit because if are you familiar with h3h3 if you watched any of their hehehe productions Age 3 yeah I just call him he he I yes Ethan and HeLa Klein they they they're very popular youtubers and they have just recently brought won a legal battle that they were embroiled in they were sued by Matt husbands knives Asda what a booth in Matt house they were they were sued by Matt Haas after they were posted a react video who's that mocking him what whose madhouse I'm proud to say I have no idea okay so who cares about Matt Hoss but the clients posted video mocking him I you know maybe it was with good reason maybe not okay so you're allowed to mock people on the internet that's part of the freedom of the internet and being a person the lawsuit however focused less on them mocking him and more on actual copyright infringement which is where this becomes more of something that is a larger issue for more more than just any dispute that Ethan and HeLa might have had with Matt's which is that Matt's lawsuit said they used my video they used my intellectual property and they redisplayed it and therefore it's my steps that they used so whatever as has his channel done he looks just like some guy who just does some weird videos okay well anyway he sued them for copyright infringement the clients defended for fair use some other personalities on the YouTube and Twitter space got involved DeFranco helped them raise 170 thousand dollars for their defense via a GoFundMe campaign he said if they are bullied and drained of funds because of this ridiculous lawsuit and or they lose the case and consider terrible precedent for other Creators the ruling was somewhat specific to this case so the judge did point out some specifics of the case because whenever there's a lawsuit that was judgment like this he could potentially establish precedent are you watching his videos I I'm just sort of gauging how he runs his channel and so far I can see that he disables likes and dislikes on all this videos ah well that sucks which is a it might be as a result of this thing I mean anytime you get somebody in a situation where they have a bunch of negative negativity coming at them from the internet that might be a challenge I got three years ago i videos three years several years ago still or like that okay well yeah I'm sure even more so now so yeah it's a good ruling because they said that under fair use Ethan and Gila were able to make this they they included commentary they did not just play the video and sit there and watch it there was actually interaction and they added to it which is what fair use is all about they used existing material they added and contributed to it which has made it different and made it's not just a recreation of the original material they didn't replace the original material by showing it at its entirety or anything like that therefore the judge upheld fair use and the judge even called their method of criticism quintessential which Ethan said is a huge win for us in the YouTube community so yeah well this doesn't necessarily establish precedent to be a blanket defense for all reaction videos which is which would be a good thing we don't want reaction videos in general to just be like anyone can do it to anyone but it certainly shows that if you're doing a reaction video there needs to be some content added and reaction videos where it's just someone sitting there watching someone else's stuff isn't necessarily going to be protected by this I guess that's where you draw the like that's where the line gets or that's where like the area's sort of gray right is how much content needs to be produced around and what qualifies as enough content because I've seen reaction videos where the person who's watching the original video is literally just sitting there yeah and that's what would not be fair use and that well maybe like would be chuckling good yeah that would be infringing no you're not you're not allowed to do that kind of thing good if your reaction videos aren't all bad some of them are cancer but yeah I mean sometimes reaction videos are are well done I've seen them they can be done right and when they are done right and they're contributing more than the content that they might be using is probably being used under fair use I'm gonna do a reaction video to one of your videos one day I'm feeling like fire up for Paul's Hardware video and just fill my self reacting to it to do that just you dozing off no I'd be I'd be enthralled okay absolutely captivated by your charm so much blood where's that that's unlisted alright net neutrality we've discussed it multiple times another trial he currently is a thing the FCC is currently considering making net neutrality not a thing rolling it back saying net neutrality sucks you have until tomorrow to post your personal individual unique to you comments to the FCC to let them know what you think about net neutrality you have until midnight eastern time tomorrow night that's Wednesday to comments about this there have been twenty one point nine million filings so far and this has not been without controversy as well the FCC for example has been accused of ignoring or failing to investigate outages and immediately following wide publicity of net neutrality plans such as after John Oliver first posted his net neutrality video when the FCC was flooded with comments and suddenly that website didn't work anymore and they claimed it was a DDoS attack or something like that but did not investigate it provide any records or any sort of actual evidence that it was an actual lee das attack which seems a little sketchy to me there's also been apparently according to a lot of people potential massive abuse of the bulk comment submission which is an API based function that the FCC is set up so you can submit comments in bulk but potentially has been misused so there's lots of sort of shadiness going on behind the scenes but that is no reason at all to not go and make your voice heard as well deadlines for initial comments actually passed back in July and July 17th the deadline for replies to initial comments was supposed to pass on August 16th but the FCC extended the deadline by two weeks to the 30th tomorrow they were being requested to extend it by eight weeks but they decided two weeks was enough Ajit Pi himself the Commissioner of the FCC says that the number of comments in favor or against net neutrality rules is not as important as the substantive comments that are in the record which basically means to say he's not going to just say here's all the comments that say net neutrality is good here's all the comments that say net neutrality is bad one side or the other wins he's saying it's actually what the comments say that Matt which basically means he can interpret it however he damn well pleases to do what he wants since he is a former lawyer for Verizon which might give him some sort of vested interest in doing things that are better for a Verizon and potentially not as good for consumers anyway though Ars Technica is a great resource for this and I've posted the link to their article in here they have tons of articles on this topic in general they're much more well-spoken than I am so I encourage you to read up on it a little bit if you want to and basically the idea is that all of the information transferred from point A to point B on the Internet should be treated equally by the Internet service providers if you're paying them for a connection to the Internet that's all you're paying them for and that they have no right to block throttle change the speed of shutdown redirect or do anything like that with your data packets and that's the way they've been doing it for the past couple years since 2015 and it's been working just fine so they don't need to change it the only reason they're going to change it is to help out Internet service providers which are mostly really huge companies at least the big ones are really huge companies that are some of the worst rated companies in the entire nation everyone hates their internet service providers it's because typically they have a monopoly and so they don't give a about you or or your opinion of here your internet or anything like that yeah I've got enough about that let's move on to another subject this is something that I just wanted to briefly touch on her hurricane former hurricane Harvey now tropical storm Harvey I don't want to talk about the weather too much but Harvey is is causing some absolute chaos in Texas and I don't have no idea if any of you guys are watching here are from Texas but guys we wish you the best of luck I like since we're not there with you and able to help I don't know what all we can do but I will say if you guys want to donate to the Red Cross I've put a link in the description Red Cross specific for donations it's a hurricane Harvey but a crazy to do that yeah more than 30,000 people in Houston across the Gulf Coast are likely to seek temporary shelter as Harvey continues to drain drenched parts of Texas at Louisiana parts of Harris County have seen 30 inches of rain an additional 15 to 25 inches are still on the ray and the way it's not like Matt super high winds or anything like that there the the damaging effects of Harvey it's that it has soaked up all this moisture and everything from the Gulf from the Gulf and it's just parked itself over the Houston area and it's just sitting there dumping rain over and over again so there's been an insane amount already and there this map here on the right shows in the next five days areas towards the center of the SAR storm especially right Houston are still expected to see like 20 more inches so it's absolutely crazy and if you guys aren't following this at all just just be aware that there's crazy flooding flowing going out I haven't seen any and if you cannot if you cannot help yourself physically then donation to the Red Cross is very helpful and yeah it's crazy right now because anyone died nine people have died so far geez 13 million people from Houston to New Orleans are under flood watches and warnings and yeah Harvey has in many ways turned South East Texas into an inland lake the size of Lake Michigan so it's pretty crazy thank you to anyone who's helped so far especially those who have opened their homes to those in need anyone who's fleeing the effects of Harvey it's pretty crazy so I would they give such a cute name to such a lethal because there's a or they're going to cycle they're alphabetical so all the names all the names are predetermined and it's just they go from H to so when they get back to H will it be Harvey again or will be like now they change Hendricks okay yeah and they change over time but yeah oh and the puppies yeah there's tons of issues with puppies with yeah yeah I mean because people evacuate and you know they're not sure if they can't even take their pets so the pets are often left behind so that sucks too it's pretty crazy but yeah our hearts are with you if you're in texas and guys I encourage you to donate to the Red Cross because they do really good work yeah that's all I have for my half of the show at least as far as planned stuff we're gonna quickly answer some questions that maybe have come in as we have been talking here I have been signed out that's odd conspiracy refresh that well you can pull up the questions on your oh yeah it's that time again let's talk about your donations thank you guys so much for donating first off yay we'll go ahead and read all the comments you've attached to them starting with Scott Dilbeck Scott you're a regular contributor to the show thanks so much for the twelve dollar donation missed the live stream last week guy Paul finished the htpc already and Kyle if not going to put me up in my PC tell me my rig is sweet Eureka sweet earring sweet super sweet Scott El Jefe reviews five dollars stuck at work 14-hour shifts this week are brutal damn drink of beer from you guys cheers from El Jefe el jefe cheers to you sir his I haven't get through the day man 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automatic met $5 some money towards fixing the audio fund did I audio fixes in air conditioning everyone thank you very much automatic Matic AC is definitely off now it's yep starting to get warmer it's trying to get warmer um I did just get a bunch of these nice LED I get a bit like a big LED kit that's like a three light LED kit okay I've been using the same like cowboy studio like kit that I got like I don't know me two four or five years ago that's all I've got that's the same kit that I've been using for the last four or five years I finally got a huge lighting upgrade so the nice thing about the LED kits is if they don't heat up quite as much as the tungsten lights do actually I need really nice ladies pretty soon too and I'm hopefully gonna get a fan bigger than that one in here soon enough hopefully bye I was expecting to be a lot more prepared for this show well the next time that you that we wouldn't do the show here because you guys had noticed we were actually here twice in a row two weeks in a row generally we switch off but I had Paul throwing everything in decay had Paul come to meet me today because I had to like wait for a shipment from FedEx and stuff but hopefully in two weeks from now when we're back here it'll be at least Paul and I will be more comfortable and things we set up a bit more and it'll prove to be a better show but thank you very much automatic man thanks man I appreciate it geared Inc for the 10 bucks have some beer on me I'm a baby tech youtuber thanks for all you guys do and inspiring me to do it my question is do you think due to the fact mining is so lucrative GPU shortages will last into 2018 I think that's really just going to depend on the crypto the crypto currency I don't know market and really how the how the values shift I mean if we see you know another explosion where aetherium goes back up to where it was like a month or two ago a couple months ago then we could easily be in another continue the the GPU is isolation there's like a balance between the price of the cryptocurrency and how difficulty how difficult it is to mine it with any given GPU and that's scaled pretty well with aetherium difficulties suppose shred continued to increase as as it is continued to mine and as people continue to mine it so if the price continues to go up then yeah but yeah it's really it's really difficult to say it's one of those market things that is if you're really good at predicting that you can make lots of money I'm not alright Fred rants ten dollar donation thank you very much sir funds for them to purchase a calculator we have calculators apps we can use later yeah in the maths at the beginning of episode was pretty pretty bad yep sorry serpent XS f $5 thank you so much beer and coming new places coming together cap woo today this is it really I just put a bunch of crap back well now that you've got that stack of boxes blocking the sunlight that's yeah it's really it's made some improvements Joe Jenko Joe 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saw a lot of tests using like two eight gig sticks running at 30 33 thirty two hundred or something like that because for gig or for dim configurations were a lot less stable at the time as Mike recruit updates come out and that kind of thing and BIOS updates come out it can make it you can't stabilize that but yeah I would say I would say try to find someone who's tested that directly rather than taking our advice but I wouldn't expect to be able to get the highest speed and frequency out of memory if you're stacking the server with and populating every single dim slot yeah okay I'm back Matt another five bucks five bucks what if we want what if we find a way to enhance humans by fusing our minds with that of a is the sleeping humanity forward and removing the risk of killer a eyes that I would say that would be a great solution that sounds like the premise of a movie that starts out where they show you this new technique or procedure that they developed that makes like the perfect symbiotic human like AI feel like this movies been cyborgs you know perfect person but then everything goes horribly wrong and and they actually kill everyone's heads Adnan that's so yeah so yeah I mean maybe maybe that will happen Matt maybe that maybe we will have a future with that type of thing that sounds terrifying but they might also kill us all and then the only hurt and the only people who will be able to stop the killer a I will be North Korea exactly maybe North Korea will save us all that's what they've been developed reasoning is a program for it yep thank you very much automatic amends how health be alpha be five dollars yeah no comment thank you out thank you very much sir Hector Martinez dilatory five dollars five for you and five dollars for the Red Cross that's perfect nice I am going to donate your five dollars that you've done it to means back to the Red Cross yeah check out ow lol five dollars to Vega 64 in crossfire greater than GT X 1080 should be in situation we're in scale yeah it depends on the customer support and some gains at what scale and it will be slightly less than it's an ad mm-hmm and maybe you'll even on some games that have negative scaling mm-hmm because that happens sometimes too yeah yeah Heather Hansen hey it's my wife hey hey hi Paul hey you bucks for coming to the office two weeks in a row German beer any good love wife it is quite tasty this is like August Finn they're ronamoon moongeun what that's as good as a pronunciation I could have come up we're drinking right now it's very Learman there's this there's like a priest or monk I think yeah monks make really good beer in my experience that's true dark beer brewed and bottled in Munich Germany it's a German browning by August inner brewery 7.5 percent alcohol by volume it's it's super super important I've never seen this beer in my life so that's why I bought it it's actually really good it's yes tasty wifey sauce probably wouldn't enjoy it too much because she's not a 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going to be over they'll be able to overclock anymore so I would say with your setup like you're fine like just leave that as is for the life of your 7600 Kay yeah 73c is still well under t.j.maxx 476 hundred K so at that point the there's really I mean unless you unless you really just want it for the aesthetic you prefer the look of an arrow in your system you're tired of looking at that that terrible Evo 212 which isn't even that terrible there's really not much reason to to upgrade to upgrade at the temperatures you're getting Matt and and congrats on your heavily Bend so how many 600 K yeah that doesn't ever climb yeah Michael Anthony $5 donation have you ever built a hackintosh I can't say that I have no I haven't either I haven't really had like a reason to or like a need to yeah I feel like I've always been sort of just waiting for that one person who who like needs the Apple OS or whatever but wants and build their main reason to go to me the main reason in my I mean for me personally at least to do it would be to try out Final Cut Pro you know but sorry let's build pure Final Cut Pro hasn't that I mean like it's this this I've been curious but it's not been enough for me to actually do that like I've always looked at it like Apple makes it's like challenging to build a hackintosh you have to do it yep I mean it's not like impossible or anything like that it's something super difficult but you have to jump through more hoops than you do with just like building a computer and installing Windows or installing Linux or something like that yeah they don't want you to build hacking Tosh's so I've always been like okay then I won't use your operating system since I like to build computers um but yeah problem with Windows it wouldn't it would mean and we need the proper motivation I think to get behind to actually try it out a little bit more seriously but I wouldn't rule it out you see a couple cool hackintosh videos recently that I saw Oh Dom yeah Dom did one dumbs was really good he is a b-roll master yeah there was one other was so much porn on that guy okay Laboon the whale lemundo will I know five bucks but natt is situ realized it doesn't have a water block available what should I do retailer charges a fee for returns and it's still unopened if it's unopened try to contact the real er retailer directly and say hey it's an opens it's still sealed I'm returning it as new can you waive the fee that you charge or whatever if the retailer's Newegg they will do that yeah at least in my used to deny experience it I can't speak that it's been several years but I'm yeah if not I don't know I mean it's sealed you might be able to sell it or whatever also double check what um PCB that has cuz 1080 is c2 does that have a custom piece be made if it's not a custom PCB it might just be the standard founders edition in PCB and you might be able to just use that so I would have a double check that - yeah the EVGA in particular has a pretty good array 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