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yeah it's it's already like late September I know it's the 19th of September it's like we already are preparing for CES I was doing my and it's doing September things and as like Emma I'm on top of September and then I was like no not down all right so cool hello everyone and welcome to awesome hardware this is a live show Kyle and I do every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. in Pacific time we stream live to twitch.tv we talk about technology we drink some beer we occasionally use some foul language so bear that in mind you know not excessive or anything like that but just some people are sensitive to that kind of thing it's know we like to point it out I'm dwelling too much on that let's move on we also stream the first half of the show to one of our channels today we're doing it to my my channel Paul's hardware this is episode hundred and twenty one side a when we get it but about an hour into it will switch over to Kyle's channel and that's linked from the video's description if you 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couple weeks a couple weeks new organic cotton bees we both have ladies tees on our shirts net to so you know a lovely gift for a girlfriend or wife or for the three percents of female audience according to YouTube you know that we got you covered yeah it's more like two point two points something but yeah we're being generous close also hats available so thank you to all of you who buy stuff we're gonna shout out your names at the end of the show what other announcements today actually did two announcements hold on oh I know what the other one is so it is about my face there's two to have two other announcements oh oh cover at the beginning well one of them is that it's Talk Like a Pirate Day yeah and we would have had their full scripted routines set up for you guys but we don't because I've done that before I knew it I knew it back Wow back in the day this is from September 18th 2013 so this is four years ago damn has it been four years 29 we're going to play the light thing but can I dressed up like pirates I was captain chassis intrusion alarm best name ever is great and we both go over all the news and stuff Steve and Jenny are in there too at certain parts so check that out it's linked in the description if you ever want to see what I look like with heavy mascara now's your chance oh yeah we're wearing mascara I like this part at the end your joke my joke what rhymes with white classic you actually want to hear me tell talk like a pirate that videos linked in the description that's the best day to do it it was it was fun I was like wow that's one of my favorite that's gotta be my top few yoga episodes that we did back in the day all right I got to do that for Halloween this year for awesome hardware for Halloween maybe not pirates but dress up and be in character and that would be nice Anna cause I kind of want to move it's like I say that I'm like late September I know plenty of time to make a costume then it's like October 30 it's like two days ago yeah yeah true so why don't one of them one more announcement apparently this was sent over to us on Twitter that and this is based on last week's awesome hardware which had its own share of epic epic fails going on I can't believe this is real this is seriously show Kyle who ejected beer influencers face in between episodes is actually in between halves of the episode last week it was captured on Twitch cowboys that is his channel it was it was quite the classic moment but apparently I'm oh this is logged into your Twitter here but apparently you can you can actually tweet it if you go to tweet and we go Kyle fail it does it's right there huh I'm gonna tweet Kyle right now and there we go alright so thank you mem for sending that over and everyone feel free to use the Kyle fail jiff of from last week because they're back on Twitter yay unbelievable so Twitter had to have done that yes I was gay no idea how the best gifs get nominated to be automatic Twitter twittered give yeah is there a try there's got to be like some there's like it's a council of like elders or something like that it's better the jiff panel yeah they've Board of Directors the some solemnly go over each jiff and they've yes this one is worthy but it ascends there's a little aura surrounding it and they all do a song and dance ritual around outworks cool alright let's move into the first segment well I guess technically the second segment might have since announcements was kind of extended today no that's not it I'm clicking the wrong thing that's hot anyway honey have you heard whoo clearly established each segment as we go into it that's part of the show lower thirds baby alright so we've got some some tech hardware news heavy heavy hardware hard drives hard drives are heavy that mez that's true it's a perfect segue Western Digital is shipping a 12 terabytes hard drive the WD gold Wow they just keep adding new colors is this enterprise or is this committees enterprise so I don't they I guess black wasn't cool enough anymore for the WD black drives but WD gold it's 12 terabytes eight platters pretty the same as far as overall storage capacity yeah 7200 rpm it's a helium-filled drive that's actually based on the same platform as Hitachi's HGST or yeah Itachi's ultra star 80 12 which also launched earlier this this year uses fourth-generation Helio seal technology helium and the drive allows the spatter the platters to spin with less turbulence which is why they can make them closer together and that's the benefit there one of these is much louder because eight platters the helium drives I have had or no there they're pretty quiet I mean no no louder than you'd expect that a decent hard drive to be that's good you know but yeah 1.5 terabytes per platter with eight of them in their total perpendicular magnetic recording this is made for near lying enterprise environments so like you know either high-end consumer or you know entry-level prosumer or I'm sure these are going to be used in data centers and that kind of thing as well so that means it's equipped with sensors technologies to prevent it against vibration make it more easy to put multiple drives into a single like NASA array or something like that half drives next to each other so that they don't interfere with each other when it comes to vibration supports tle are or time limited error recovery rebuilt a system ode to speed up rape recovery time 255 megabytes per second sustained transfer rates four point one millisecond four point one six millisecond average latency which are pretty damn good specs for for a spinning mechanical hard drive yeah is there any price on this there is you can buy it directly from WD for five hundred and twenty two dollars Wow it's available at multiple retailers right now including Newegg for five hundred and forty dollars so I guess you can get a better better deal if you go straight to WD but I don't know if you have to have an enterprise account with them right there's that kind of thing yeah five hundred and forty at NUI which you know is a lot of money for a hard drive but considering the capacity it's not terrible actually the article is from an an tech by the way all the articles I'm talking about are linked in the video description but thanks for instance take a look at it this is a twelve terabyte model on the left and it's 23 gigabytes per dollar or about four four point three five cents per gigabyte and again that's based on the MSRP of five hundred and twenty-two dollars and that's actually you know less than then well the extra sorry it's a little bit more than I guess a ten terabyte and eight terabyte drives but it is and I'm fairly new still but it is less than their eight terabyte drive retailed for about one and a half years because it launched at $600 so there you go hey what cool hard drives I like hard drives super I mean when I hit if nanda prices weren't so crazy I'd be like this is obsolete yeah that's there's gonna be 20 terabyte Nan's flash array drives soon but I don't know no side of the back anytime soon oh cool oh by the way we drink beer on the show we forgot to do that we're drinking some Lagunitas little something mail little some and cheers Cheers you guys thanks for joining us mm-hmm let's move on to the next story here and have you heard we're all so the Sun is setting so we're getting some there's some extra yeah some special video effects it's not your GPU artifacting maybe ten no that's the special that's a special aspect of the show that we have now I kind of like it the shine and it's only gonna happen for a while like give it a few weeks and especially once the time changes and it'll be dark by this time so so so Sabre it what do you still care so 56 core 112 thread workstation what do you think that sounds exciting that is what HP has on offer with their new z8 workstation freaking insane core counts and and with hyper-threading hundred and twelve threads three terabytes of system memory that's not like hard drive system memory and that's pretty crazy it's also got this like sort of configuration with a bunch of vents and everything to make sure that there is airflow directed to the various parts of the actual workstation so GPUs yeah so the max configuration that they're talking about here is dual Xeon Platinum 8180 chips and the xeon Platinum 8180 is based on skylake x SP 28 cores 56 threads per CPU with 38.5 megabytes of cache they run at 2.5 to 3 point 8 gigahertz so even some pretty decent frequencies on these I would imagine when it's not using all the the cores and threads of course support for up to 1.5 terabytes of RAM per CPU giving you a grand total of up to 3 only craft school next year there's actually going to be a successor to this 8180 Platinum Series II on chip the 81 ATM that's gonna have basically the same amount of cores and the same speeds but it doubles the total memory capacity to 3 terabytes per CPU so if you fill that all 24 Ram slots in this with I don't know what capacity dims I'd have to do math do that right now but if you max it out you could have 6 terabytes of system memory and it will be three thousand divided by 12 or 24 you said 24 slots 2014 6000 cuz it's three thousand per CPU oh it's ok will be six thousand divided by 24 yeah I can't control things yet you can have up to three and video Quadro p6000 GPUs to order 50 gigs at once is 256 gig sticks is that okay is that right does it go up to right now on the server side I don't know that's 32 and I think I've seen 64 do they do they have hundred twenty-eight gig dims I mean it's just maximum supported or are they saying like you can spec this out with this is maximum theoretically supported by the CPU so theoretical support by the CPU and dim is actually available to have that Grasset II or definitely two different things yeah yeah I think 64 gig is is this as high as I have seen on the server since no we're talking about you know in a year to when maybe there will be Tim's enough that much professi anyway the actual system has four internal drive bays wait I lost my spot to external and the third external for an optical drive nine PCIe slots and it's got a range of gigabits and 10 Gigabit Ethernet adapters that are available on there the storage options are up to 4 terabytes of PCIe mounted SSD which I would imagine would be nvme 48 terabytes of spinning disks 10 Gigabit Ethernet 802 that 11 a/b/g/n and AC Wi-Fi is blue and bluetooth to 4.2 Thunderbolt 3 available with an adding card 1700 watt power supply is what they would use to power this workstation and all of that hardware in there and I already kind of talked about deducting and stuff which I mean I'd be very curious to you know to see some stats on this like full load performance numbers and that kind of thing with the fully kitted out system two thousand four hundred and thirty nine dollars for the lowest end model ah which which goes down to because this is the z8 and there's a z6 and a z4 as well that have different other configured as single single slot or single CPU single sockets configurations I guess I should say but anyway two thousand four hundred thirty-nine dollars of the bottom spec and the article says we'd expect the top-end configuration to cost twenty times that which would be forty eight thousand eight hundred dollars I don't know if that's speculation on behalf of Ars Technica here or not but I mean hey top n workstation fifty grand if you need that much horsepower I suppose it's worth it I guess so they're built for 3d engineering and modeling and 8k video production how much I wonder how much that costs if you built it yourself like how much you'd save would you save anything or if that's like the exact same exact thing high-end workstations there's a lot of extra stuff that you get for them at anchor things are grossly over part forever price when you just look at hardware costs but there's a lot of extra stuff that you get when it comes to support and yeah you know validation for specific like enterprise level software and that kind of thing right um but yeah anyway one more item of note here on aha and heavy hardware this is about thread Ripper which is some I think I would classify US patent heavy hardware but yeah thread rivers recently deleted binder Bower we've talked about several of his deleting X escapades in recent time and there was a sort of a bunch of there is a kerfuffle when it first happened because if you look at some of the images here there's a lot of speculation as to what the extra dies are doing here because this is basically looks the same as epic which on the server side can have a full complement of eight rising cores or eight risin dies each with eight CP you's giving you a total of up to 32 cores and 64 threads third Rupert goes up to 16 cores and 32 threads and they've told us that only two of the four actual dies are doing any work so what are the other two dies doing or what are the what are what are the other two dies rather they disabled dies are they dummy dies are they inactive dies and when he actually deleted it they saw that there was actual gold I believe you can see in this image is actually gold context on on all four of them which might make you think that maybe they're maybe they're inactive and of course the next question is like oh maybe you could actually enable them somehow or turn them on but this is the follow up because this is this actually posted last week sometime I think this was actually about the same time we did the show last week but James Pryor who is a product manager at AMD followed up on this and basically said it's not an epic it's a different substrate it's different dies to the dice work to have no path to operation they are basically rocks so yeah they're not described as inactive but dummy so it doesn't matter if they were dead or actives they're just not gonna work at all so anyone who maybe had machinations on like somehow using the pencil trick or something like that to turn on your other your thread Ripper core your the other thread Ripper dies it's not gonna happen a bummer there there was some discussion of this online and actually Ian captures from AMD responded with the general workflow you mean a man tech I'm sorry form in Antakya sure when did that happen well yeah so you know that they didn't get him to but this is this is his general workflow of starter per dies and the Zeppelin wafer each was epilim wafer which they can harvest about 290 dies from some of them work some of them don't some of them fully work some of them don't so once it failed will either be used for thread Ripper for the dummy dies or they just go to landfill I guess this is also his assumption I imagine but and then the other dies at the top five percent of them are sorted out and those go to thread repair as far as overclocking goes everything else gets relegated to rising based products as well as I would guess but all the reports on AMD's yields for horizon have been very good so I think that's part of the reason why they're doing so well with it you have been able to me to keep up with demands and all areas for my understanding alright next segment that's the end of the first segment by the way I'm gonna take that was very efficient then we didn't linger or anything it was I don't have lots of stuff to talk about very concise kinda you know trying to bang through it I also have you know yeah I didn't I did it's good sex also like whenever have you guys notice the lighting is better today I mean other than the the beams of sunlight across their face other than that it's worse it's Chris my new intern scales in twice a week and I've been sort of like watching how he sets up the lights lights - there's a big there's a big diffuser over here it's very nice it's a showery it's a shark it's literally a shower curtain bunnies from a sea snake but it's it's a diffuser it's yeah it works great and it's diffusing some of the sunlight too right now which is probably giving it very nice blend that's why that get some you got some shout around as well yep but if you compare it off screens if you compare the closer oh you compare the lighting from like last week's video they're our last week's episode to this one it's just night and day it's absolutely crazy what I just can't touch you what next segment we're streaming Paul we tilt the cameras go down the next segment is in security I actually did a segment about security and stuff this is mainly information and recommendations that I have found from other sources because I don't consider myself to be an expert on this by any stretch but I almost forgot we actually already had a segment called insecurity so that's over anyway point is Equifax we didn't talk about Equifax last week it was it was sort of new news that last week but if you're not familiar with the Equifax breach you probably should be I would be surprised if you're not but Equifax is one of the three major credit reporting agencies in the United States they they were hacked and a hundred and forty three million consumers informations were basically stolen and they're out in the wild there's some somewhere on the internet now now I want to point out here again that weren't I'm not an expert in finance and I don't claim to have all the answers about this but these are actually some of the steps and I'm going to be taking personally to attempt to do some protection for myself so I wanted to share that with you guys in case you're sort of not exactly sure what to do but you don't know what to do this is a huge deal don't worry I told your wife about some of this oh good well I think you're and please the responsible one yeah yeah this is but basically here's a question are you an American adult that has ever held or inquired about a credit card loan car bank account cell phone account electric service water service internet service a security clearance most jobs most schools most apartment complexes are renting or buying a house than you are affected it's actually even affected people internationally as well there's other informations from people in the EU that's gotten scooped up with this as well and there's a ton of news stories about it but I'm basically going to link to a single reddit thread which is on the you should know subreddit which base which goes over some kind of steps to take and the ultimate decision that the thread makes and what I'm going to probably be doing as well is turning off my credit now turning off your credit or doing a credit freeze is something you need to do individually with each credit agency and prior to now that's actually cost money you have to pay for it every time which kind of sucks it's not a lot of money but it would be you know somewhere in the range and every time you freeze it 30 bucks every time you freeze it okay and then if you freeze it it doesn't mean that like your credit card stopped working or anything like that any accounts that you've already opened still work it just means that nobody can inquire no one can do it can pin your credit and do a credit check of course that means if you need to get a job or do any of those things that I just listed but yeah you're gonna need to turn it back on and then probably turn it back off but this is probably your best bet at protecting yourself in the event that someone who has gotten your information from this breech which includes Social Security numbers addresses credit histories all of the relevant information that they would need to perform identity theft or anything like that yeah what a great time to have horrible credit yeah cuz then no one would want to steal your identity as someone mentioned in chat unfortunately my credit is very good I'm a prime suspect or a prime candidate yeah there's a bunch of nonsense that has come out since this information became public for instance people were first told this sort of like crappy news that they knew about this about six weeks ago and then the public just found out actually they discovered it back in March six months ago Wow widget which kind of sucks there's like three of their higher-ups including the CFO who like sold their stock in the company prior to this going public there and there's two two of their chief executives like just left well like I'm done I'm just peace out so there's there's a ton of fallout still to happen from this what are what I have in what ways can you be affected negatively by this like can someone assume your identity you know yeah identity theft that's not going to open a credit card in your name right extracts one things mentioned in the article and in this breakdown on reddit is people filing taxes in your name it is a potential issue and that is a massive massive problem if if someone is able to do it so one of the recommendations from the article as well means come 2018 get your w-2s and fire file your taxes as soon as you possibly can that's your best bet for doing that another strong recommendation is to get your credit report right now you want to get that from annualcreditreport.com the government mandates that everyone can get their credit report for free once a year annual credit report.com is the actual only single website all the other other credit monitoring services and everything like that are like you know their varying levels of legitimacy that annual credit report.com is the actual one where you can go and get your credit report and we're not sure what's going to happen there's there's there's politicians who are introducing legislature to try to make it harder for credit company or credit monitoring companies to be this negligence yeah lots more still to come but this was the breakdown I found of it that I found to be very helpful explains everything very clearly and if you or your friends or family who are I guarantee you're affected by this aren't exactly sure what to do I highly recommend just checking that out and very would very much would consider turning a credit off if you're at all concerned about that or if you're able to do it super helpful fYI that's good to know anyway yeah there's more on that this actually is there's so much more than that but yeah it's a really really the the the amount of fraud that's gonna happen this holiday season it's kind of insane it is gonna be crazy so record breaker you get your credit report right now so that if anything happens in the future you can say look this is this is what it was before whatever happened right and it's just kind of a lottery like there's so many so much information out there it's just like are you gonna be the one who is targeted yeah that kind of scary all right CCleaner is a software utility which I have personally recommended to people in the past ever Avast which is a company who owns pure form which is the company who developed ccleaner has let people know that it's been compromised in fact hackers were able to inject malicious data harvesting code piggybacked onto the installer program for ccleaner Avast is reckoning that this is affected about 2.2 7 million users so that's kind of that's kind of crappy because ccleaner is crap crap cleaner is basically what it is and it's very it was a very useful tool for like if you had a notebook like a laptop that you bought with a bunch of bloatware on it or something like that it was very good at going and cleaning that stuff out but this is sort of a slightly newer trick that I guess that hackers have been using to distribute their malware and viruses is to piggyback it on software that people otherwise trust this attack this effective versions of ccleaner 5.3 3.6 162 as well see cleaner cloud 107.3 191 Avast piriform recommends upgrading to version 5.3 for of seat cleaner or higher that's what they recommend if you have it already a just like I just want to get rid of this because I don't want it anymore the concern would be if your if you had a version that was affected now my personal like the thing I do if I know that a computer has a virus it has been compromised is I nuke it like I don't care I format it I get rid of any data that's on the hard drive and that will that will that will solve your problem and the vast majority of situations you mean like in this situation like where ccleaner like all this all the computers like if you have it you're like I'm just gonna install it like you just if you want to be if you want to be sure that you have that your system is not compromised that's that's just what I do have you done nothing your systems with ccleaner on I'm already I don't have I haven't I haven't used recommended ccleaner recently oh I don't think I have any systems that are affected by this and I yeah I do have so hotline has ccleaner on it though and but fortunately it's an older version it's like 5.2 something and it says the affected one was 5.3 three so if you don't think so if it's an older version you're probably fine yeah mmm so um I think I think I'm good so there you go yeah also I mean if you're if you are concerned or if you if you were affected by it if you did have the software installed it was capable of harvesting your computer name your IP address a list of installed software a list of active software and a list of network adapters which is all data that ccleaner was you know it's the type of data that that software would have been would have legitimately been able to collect it is then taking that data which piriform describes is not insensitive and transmitting it to a third party computer server located in the US and that server was shut down as its number 15 four days ago so it's not necessarily the most it's not like it's got your few social security number because that doesn't matter anyway because Equifax but I'm yeah it's it's at least not not like not the most serious information it's mainly the the the method of deployments that I think was a little bit more of a concern elsa that they were able to yeah to get this actually into the installer is is a little bit disconcerting um indeed yeah CCleaner at the time that piriform perform was bought by avast in july avast has two point two seven million users were affected but at the time of the acquisition ccleaner was billed as having one hundred and thirty million users and fifteen million on android android is not affected at all the payload payload delivery for this was limited because it only affected users with 32-bit windows pcs so i guess that would be another reason why a hotline would not have a chance to be affected so that's probably what limited the amount of people considering the actual install base of ccleaner alright that's all for that story next is I don't like this segment Apple it's making me uncomfortable well it's information that people should know about see I did a whole segment on phones last weekend and the iPhone X had just been announced and I didn't mention it all it was it was classic just a slap in the face to Apple reverberate it throughout the tech world I saw lots of articles on it but anyway they do they didn't have a few new interesting things about the the new iPhone X for example and the facial recognition system which as you can see sprays you in the face with the pleasing purple aura and this this is alien Judas not really but yeah it's it's it's facial recognition so it's a bio it's a it's a biometric unlock it's similar to like unlocking with your fingerprints or like Windows hello but it's a little bit more fancy than that so this article from the verge asks several questions about the facial recognition system which I will kind of go over like is it gonna make it easier for police to unlock your phone if you were arrested or something like that and they think you might have some incriminating evidence and you're sitting there like oh you just beat the crap out of me so I'm incapacitated and they're like I'm gonna unlock your phone by holding up to your face and then and then they can get into your phone mm-hmm and their article does reference some kind of shady situations where that actually comes into play it is important to note though that the fifth amended fifth amendment in to the Constitution of the United States protects you that protects what you know and it does not protect what you have so this applies not only to facial recognition but something like using a fingerprint that's something you have and it's been there have been court cases about it some have gone one way some have gone the other way there's another article that we should also be linked in the description from use moto talking about the iPhone case that they believe should go all the way to the Supreme Court this is from back in June but it's basically deciding this a little bit more clearly one way or the other for people as far as what capabilities the law enforcement has for getting access to your personal private information which might be stored on a private device which is a physical thing you have which they might have the ability to confiscate because it's a physical thing but if it's locked by a code that you only know in your mind and they're not technically allowed to get what you what's in your mind that's what you know they're only supposed to be able to get at what you have then they have to use inception to extract your information yes exactly the only logical means so that's that certainly applies here now Apple specifically talked about some of the physical challenges for example of using this because they wanted to make it so that you can use use it to use your face to unlock your phone but not necessarily should be able to use be used like if you're asleep and someone walks up to you with your phone shouldn't work because if your eyes are closed that actually work properly it also it sprays a bunch of red dots on your face that's kind of what's being shown here so it does it does a scatter you know it scatters a bunch of dots on your face and that reads those and it uses that to determine depth and that is why it's a lot fancier than just something in that like so it can't be it can't be fooled with a picture it actually has to be depth there and they used a bunch of masks to attempt to trick it and said that it wouldn't work but there's a possibility the idea is that your eyes needs to be open you need to be actively trying to unlock your phone so it should be more difficult for someone to unlock but not impossible yeah but some something to consider could my face leak or gets stolen since Apple is collecting this information about your face and storing it it's supposed to only be stored on the phone itself it's not supposed to be uploading the face print data to the cloud or anything like that so in that case should be okay but um you know who knows if they change their policies in the future anything like that there's a question about a racial bias which has been something that affects face ID in the past if you're if you're not a white person then there's challenges there if the AI has been trained mostly on the faces of white people and you happen to be black or Chinese or Indian or anything like that then there might be more challenges there too earlier too early to say on that one was the let the article concluded are you talking about smoothing it with a picture the other thing is that it's a motion camera so when it's when you're unlocking there's some motion there so that part of that what the 3d effects is what it's like it's not just getting a straight on shot of of your face so it has some text some sort of motion just subtle motion yeah in order for it didn't unlock using the motion capable cameras as part of the security and the unlocking feature I just feel like it's still wait wait gonna be way too easy to crack once this phone gets in people's hands like someone's gonna like within a week or a day like someone's gonna be like this is the easiest thing to crack never that was shown pretty quickly with most biometrics lifts it's a lot of the biometric like fingerprint unlocking stuff but yeah you can do it longer see you can probably do with faces this this does seem like a step up for example but the other question is that Apple is going to soon have millions of people enrolled with face ID which gives them a powerful face facial recognition tool as well as input from millions of people that they can use to train their a eye and stuff like that and that also brings into question of like you know can can that knowledge be somehow used for evil or something like that but you know we're not really sure apples generally pretty good when it comes to security of preserving privacy and that kind of thing for its users so I feel like it's more data that they can either sell or exploit for their own profit or like you know for advertising whatever it is like now they have a actual profile of your face and they could they know what race you are what gender you are approximate age and whatnot and they can minimize that I got your social security number from Equifax I know nothing is yours anymore we're all screwed damn it Ozzie on that note go Android all the way more all the story right let's move let's move into news more general tech news and let's move to some lighter topics too tired of anything that requires I know that we're all depressed is a beam of light across my face too even sunlight I really just need like a sliver of tape to cover up that one blind that's bleeding too much sunlight I don't know it's kind of how your retinas it's kind of a I can feel myself growing it makes it's like a which I needs to respond more quickly to which one becomes more dilated singing act alright you've been playing playing on this fella grounds I've not been playing anything I've not had time to gain in so long I want a game like one six months on a game it a little bit more but we've we we have played it we've tended a bit it's a lot of fun it's insanely popular and breaking lots of records on Steven what not legit reviews did a interesting little article earlier today about how many cores CPU core is that it is that you need to play one layer none spell guns this was I think I think Nathan did yeah this is a Nate no Nathan what they don't rip rip um he tested with a gtx 980ti he used the medium preset for bubba he tested about 1920 by 1080 and 2560 by 1440 with a 7900 X CPU he was disabling cores on the CPU in order to simulate the different core counts options but these were basically his results he tested two cores with him without hyper threading four cores with him without six cores eight cores and 10 cores there's a pretty decent jump going from two cores to four threads or two cores two threads to four cores or four threads there's another pretty big jump going from four cores to eight threads or going from four cores to six cores in fact quantify that's about a 31% jump going from two to four about a 21% more jump going from four to eight alright I should say going from four to six when it comes to actual cores going from four to eight when it comes to thread count so good news for anyone who is currently gaming with like a 7700 a or 6700 or something like that you do have a pretty good capability to seems like max out your available performance if you have a fork or a thread CPU or better and again it's pretty decent performance from the two and four cred sorry two and four core solutions there but that's good it's as if you're rocking a 1080i you probably want at least four cores yeah I guess the solution it's nice to see like really popular like like one of the most popular games utilizing that many CPU course effectively especially to like line up with all of the you know hike or count CPUs that have been dropping recently kind of makes you feel more justified in your purchase I feel and also um player knows battlegrounds uses Unreal Engine 4 which is somewhat notorious for being a bit of a resource hog so it's good to see that they are working on some optimizations for this and like I said the ability to take advantage of higher-end hardware that's out there and given the type of game it is you can have a lot going on at the same time with lots of different players and stuff so yes certainly seems seems to be a good and I had I'm having trouble coming up with some final closing statement for that let's move on more cores is better Hardware die info which is a Dutch website or at least the language is Dutch but um yeah they have tested they have physically tested and attempted to turn on a KB like CPU and an Intel Z 370 motherboard as well as a a coffee like CPU apparently with Z to 70 motherboard now the the reason this is interesting is because Intel's next generation they're next mainstream product line is going to be motherboards with Z 370 chipsets and then coffee like basis CPUs which are probably enough 8000 series based on the rumors now they're not supposed to be compatible with the current generation of stuff is e 270 the z170 motherboards for scat for sky leaking can be linked however it's still LGA 1151 and physically there's no difference between the chips they have a shot here of the bottom of the CPUs and they are exactly the same LGA 1151 yep so they basically were like well what happens what happens when you do it and it's exactly as you would expect doesn't work does it work like Intel said it's vaguely interesting because this is an unreleased product but also somewhat interesting in that they were testing like alright you can give as much information to people as you want about the actual configuration and what's compatible with what you're gonna have somebody try to drop a copy like CPU into Anna's II 270 motherboard or vice versa like they did yeah it didn't destroy anything there was no smoke basically the system boot it went through or went through post but when it got to the last step VGA its it boot looped after that so yeah there's no physical barrier to installation but there's also no harm then or smoke or flames or a dead motherboard or CPU if you happen to installs the thing to battle CPU so the limitation seems fully software based has nothing to do with really the hardware of the socket or yeah I mean it might be a like a firmware thing or yeah I mean this there's various ways I'm sure that Intel can guarantee incompatibility but right physical and compatibility something that actually blocks you from installing it is not there that just makes I think that would just make people more bitter and that Prowler Intel that probably goes to tooling for manufacturing which is very expensive to change up so doing something for this new line of CPUs and motherboards that would make it physically different what it costs more money than it was worth that's my guess to actually do something to make it to make it that much different all right a couple more quick stories to talk about t-mobile and sprits are possibly in an active merger I'm gonna refresh this page real quick t-mobile is owned by Deutsche Telekom as Frances owned by Softbank they have been in frequent conversations about a stock 4 stock merger in which t-mobile parents Deutsche Telekom would emerge as the major owner oh look this video just started playing whoa oh it's just listen to this game hey let's just have him do the show I said Haddon that's that video to play he's played he's dressed for the part scroll down the page a little bit oh look video just stays there how annoying CNBC but if I just wanted to read I didn't want this dude yelling in my favor move on from there but yeah they say negotiators are still weeks away from finalizing a deal the chances of reaching a current agreement are not assured but this is the number three and number four wireless carriers at least in the United States there's as to whether it be approved by regulators earlier this year soft makes my site Masayoshi Son indicated a willingness to sell Sprint's to t-mobile and t-mobile CEO John Legere expected would be expected to lead any combination that results from this merger so yeah so B t-mobile would be the name that comes out of that which drive all this house because Sprint is one of those names that I feel like it's been around forever right it's like you don't ditch all that branding I guess but who knows yeah but let's move on from that this is just a quick story and we got Chrome hey speaking of that annoying autoplay ad that just played with the audio wonderful what a wonderful segue chrome was gonna block those thank you thank you for complimenting my steak with that yeah girl I'm slow and stopping those annoying autoplay videos starting in January hooray so if you're good websites or let's say you like to open multiple tabs in your browser or something like that at the same time then you have some mystery tab that's playing audio it's not terrible to locate those anywhere most of the browser's now will have like a little icon or something like that and will allow you to mute a tab specifically but when they just start playing automatically it's really freaking annoying so I am happy that Chrome will be doing this should roll out in January this is one of the most frequent concerns from users says google unexpected playback the worst autoplay videos have to be the ones that minimize and follow you down the page while you're scrolling says the article incidentally which is exactly what the NBC website we were just looking at did okay like when I when I found these stories by the way I found the CNBC one first so that I was like wow that was a great chrome 63 version 63 is also gonna add a new option to completely mute individual sites so you can tell that website like like if you go to tweet town all the time and the speak town pop-ups and just blasts and noise in your face you can mute the entire website and it will stay like that through different sessions that's a cool feature too google has also previously indicated they're gonna introduce built-in ad blocker for next year all of this I think is generally speaking good news but we also have to we have to like grain of salt it with Google now because they're not like like we use we like Google and we use so much of their services but they've also gotten so large where it's like you don't see them being just always good all the time so it's also possible that they're using these changes to further assert their domination over the online advertising industry so you know keep that in mind too I guess so someone said we don't we can now mute pornhub at work oh yeah oh sure yeah then you have on your work browser and then you you know that it's never just gonna start start popping up because that'd be awkward unless you worked at pornhub then is that normal I mean what to work at pornhub if you work at probably 11 or if you work at pornhub depends on your family can you just like be sitting there watching porn and your cubicle or something like that and yeah they're doing anything else some people like this way to go get her you're promoted know kind of curious kind of curious about the office politics at that burnt-up now that'd be fascinating there should be a stupid BuzzFeed video about that but I digress hopefully that will get done soon all right light on it last actual news story for today until apparently is going to be launching ice lake 8 core and 16 thread main screen CPUs in the second half of 2018 yeah this will this would be supported on the 300 series platform that we've talked about which about not having compatibility with current cabling processors for example however I don't know this is interesting I'm not a hundred percent sure that this is a WCC F Tech article and I'm not Hasaan I'm not sure I don't know we'll see believe it's you guys but this is sourced from eurocom which is a manufacturer of high end laptops and workstations which awesome up and have swappable desktop parts in them which is pretty cool a rep from the company revealed on no note book review forums that they'll update their tornado f5 laptop to the z 390 chipset which is going to support Intel's 8 core and 660 and thread CPUs arriving in second half of 2018 this is the actual comments about that from the eurocom support is there this is their actual support channel so that's pretty straightforward that eurocom is in the know about what will be supported on until Z 390 chipset Z 390 chipset is also a chipset that kind of came out in rumors recently and we're going to talk about this a little bit more in Cal's half of the show but it's it's one of those things people weren't aware of z 370 it's supposed to be the successor for Z 270 Z 390 might be a higher-end option that might also still be mainstream maybe we're not sure yeah but Intel has definitely said that they're gonna offer eight core and sixteen thread processors I am sorry we know now that Intel is going to offer 18 eight core and sixteen thread processors they haven't said that but we know that based on this that they'll be available on the mainstream platform assuming this is all true so so this gyro come guide pretty much spilled the beans more or less yeah well he seemed it was the real solution I mean this type of stuff happens and they can come out of be like oh he misspoke or you know that kind of thing like he wasn't familiar with the actual blah blah who knows it's it's early information but some the thing that sticks out to me here is they're talking about this potentially being ice Lake because Intel has stated and some of their and the product roadmaps and otherwise that ice lake which is the second generation 10 nanometer processor architecture will be well under production in 2018 now that's a wide time frame but ice like his second-generation 10 nanometer they're supposed to be cannon Lake right right yeah so cannon Lake is already on roadmaps and there is supposed to be some low wattage low low power draw can like stuff coming out at the end at the end of 2017 mm-hmm not necessarily the desktop parts like socketed desktop parts or anything like that but this begs the question you know is Intel goodness gonna again a fast track ice Lake somehow for the desktop side and that's what you're going to see next after this after that whatever initial launch of of coffee like stuff they have going on right now kind of seems like they might be rushing things again kind of like how they did with Scylla gex well I think that's a big part of it is that Intel's whatever roadmaps they had have been sort of thrown into disarray by the need to present a more competitive fronts to AMD and answer back to AMD with a lot of the stuff they've brought out on the mainstream side its risin you know reliably so and AMD for their part is already talking about Zen to Architecture the follow up architecture to aim that Zen one what's which Verizon is based on and they're talking about it being able to hit much higher clock speeds and also having better instructions per clock performance so that would be a pretty big jump and that could close the gap in gaming performance and various other things like that so Intel definitely is in a position where they need to bring suit new products to market and I'm sure 2018 is gonna be a very interesting year for that but it does seem overall with this information like in in 2018 you're gonna see eight core on the mainstream lineup from firm Intel which which makes sense to me right that's where the industry is going so that'll stay competitive with the rise and seven family but like I said more of that when we get every cows half of the show we're gonna we're gonna wrap up my half with what we get some some QA donation well people have submitted donations to us and ask questions we're gonna answer those really quickly so starting off and takes us to sell for collecting these from wishbone with a $5 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selling all their cards to to minors and whatever then they're just kind of taking themselves out of the conversation when it comes to actual gaming graphics cards yeah and I'll keep recommending by a 1074 400 bucks yep that's miles Bartley miles five Canadian been watching for a while keep the fun content coming what is the best tempered glass water cooling case in your opinion there's so many now yeah they're so weird it's like any man any case any case from last year that doesn't have a version with a tempered glass side now does I feel like all of these tempered glass side panel case case manufacturers with those products should owe me royalties too somehow but then I remember that in win know and Lea and Lea Lea and Lea had tempered glass that day long time ago name one lien Lea case with a plastic side panel window in the last five years I don't know but the cases I remember coming out like the D frame the in Wendy frame was first one I remember like the open air specialized 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1,800 X 649 well if I mama being that I overclocked probably not at all go with the 1700 X save yourself 150 150 Australian dollar Wow yeah save yourself a hundred and fifty Australian dollars you should be able to get the 1700 X to about four gigahertz overclock it a bit they're all in that same range like overall I do feel like the 1800 X's from what turn the performance numbers I've seen and maybe just ever so slightly bins but it's it's so minimal like it's not worth it at all to pay that much more money so yeah 1700 X and overclocked it and you're basically at 1800 X level for sure indeed oh sorry $20 best day of the week when this show is on earlier buy some beer on me until I get the gritties pumpkin ale set for Halloween that's dad's Joe New York damn I think he's gonna sound some beer we definitely need to do a Halloween show I'm down for that I haven't looked at the schedule and when is Halloween it's not it's October it's an October I'm pretty sure it's at least in October I 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anywhere sell get this in for me please I have no idea we we heard there was a bunch of lucky not crazy about that and Intel's gonna charge 500 bucks for it I've heard nothing so I don't know I think there's yeah I've heard nothing about it I can't say I've heard nothing so yeah I am you good I hope they decide to make it like 20 bucks or something like that yeah charge 20 bucks for it Intel people won't be able to complain they'll be like 20 okay yeah exactly yeah Lebanon the Whale Ted dollar is looking for a new ITX case for hybrid GTX 1080i plus an r7 1700 fantex evolve ITX tempered glass a shift or n case m1 all will be AO cooled traditional case versus unusual shift case or mini case opinions I think with your expected configuration the evolve I TX will give you the best experience because trying to fit that much hardware with that much cooling and iOS all in a mini case especially like you shift ran in case you've worked for the ship though I mean yes objet I think it's more sustainable to only have one radiator or one AO in the shift if you get the shift X then you can definitely do you can AO both your CPU and GPU has a bit taller though yes it is it is but it's still very compact like the footprint is still about the same it's very tiny footprint wise you just need some vertical space but yeah I agree with Paul the evolved ITX tempered glass is probably your best bet if you if you're looking for the smallest most compact in terms of like leader volume but really most a IO support in terms of radiators and stuff Frank Enzo $5 hey Paulie convinced me to buy the ML 0 8 B for my open-air graphics card by the way you scared me last week don't ever show that much emotion again I'm sorry hey let your reaction what I'm saying yeah I've never heard you I mean I've heard you laugh pretty damn there's one other time I heard you laugh really like that really that hard but it only happened it's an idea as a second time in my life I've heard you laugh that hard it's like the older you get the more jaded you get great so it's harder for you to really find something genuinely funny like that kind so when I saw that like I knew I knew I was expecting to be like oh whatever like blue whatever but like it is I don't know in the eye and then reaction good thing is idea yeah but yeah I like it's watching that back and laughing at it has like I don't know it is so much joy it was spread yeah yeah that's what makes me happy but indeed Frank I'm glad you like the ml0 8b remember if you're doing heavy gaming very effective to just pop off the top side panel the desk filter on that to just let the air flow outs and very much consider can just doing something like an active 120 millimeter slim fan or something like that to draw air in either on the lower one or the upper one I think you'll get much better temperatures that way but portability wise and everything it's a nice little case Oh Martindale five bucks it's 9:00 at million Scoville Paul and it's in 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with you have met free beers or something that's appropriate for like fall or winter yeah time frame I like Oktoberfest I like choosing the beers that like line up the seasons it's nice you're you're lame daj koji $5 Paul what are you going to finish your damage CPC vlog I just accidentally my leg hit the lever on the chair and I just went down like ten inches that must look really funny um sorry about that yeah what are you gonna finish your HTV CC HC PC vlog he's got an i7 2600k HC PC or should I just we're should I use it to get my wife assimilated into the master race okay a good question I'm sorry it's taking so long there's three different factors contributing here one is that the piece of wood that I got it has a couple beetles in one corner of it and I don't know how to get rid of him I've just been waiting for them to die B yeah beetles wood beetles they're supposed to be killed because the piece of wood I got was killed but there's just one part of it where there's still some so they must have gotten in there after it was killed or something like that I'm not sure so the beetles seem to die figuring that out second thing is that I'm getting a family's power supply and actually enter Max's sending that over I was trying to get the 650 watt fanless version that they teased it a couple events over the past two or three years but they never actually brought that one to market so I'm going with a 550 watt famous which manufactures this any maxima oh yeah that's actually on its way right now third thing I don't know if there's a third thing third thing is that yet oh I'm doing weird like I'm redoing the electrical in our house and we might be actually be doing some like home-improvement stuff soon like replacing the floors and this like winding this the time with everything else made me hesitate on it and stuff so sorry umm so yeah sorry all of those things have contributed to me taking a lot longer to get that to get to next step steps on that but it is still gonna happen soon better camera following up with you Karen bucks looking for a way to operate two pcs using dual monitors possible as single ultra wide using the same peripherals any suggestions on possible KVM is sufficient for gaming and or alternative options I do not use Nexus they just do a review on no they they do an ad they do an ad for a piece of software oh and I don't remember what it's called starts with an M synergy synergy no it doesn't synergies yes synergy Thank You Chet synergy we are not affiliated with it all but hey if you work for synergy maybe you should come sponsors now since we're plugging your product synergy is software you can get works over your your home network and you can use it to use a single laptop keyboard or whatever to control different computers around that so check check out synergy yeah click the mode 20 bucks balls balls balls my thoughts exactly yeah we don't care electronic ttan but then there are his canadian he's gonna it's canadian anyway he's from canada yeah he has a right to say he said lion lioness isn't a but he is a whore it's a very subtle distinction so deep so deep there it goes okay punch $1 five bucks great show guys building a new PC and want to liquid cool but one us want to us men mineral wanted use mineral oil and dual pumps because of the oil is that overkill are not worth it neither of us have ever built mineral oil cooled computers so we probably can't give you a good advice on this but I would say it's overkill for whatever you're trying to do I think that there are there are already enough things products out there that you can use without having to a mineral oil cool your hardware that'll work just fine for anything you want to do so the mineral oil is just so you can say like look I did this as it's super different it's incredibly unique there's no other system like it and I now have the experience of doing a mineral oil cooled system but as far as like Mississippi goes I don't think it's necessary 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