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Awesome Hardware #0123-A: You're Listening to VROC (Now With 3nm!)

2017-10-03
Oh slow motion Joker clap for that one hey it is I think we're okay yeah sure yes we should be live now Wow like a studio all right hi everyone and welcome this is awesome hardware it's a live show about technology we drink some beers we talk about technology and we have a good time and we stream it live every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. Pacific or sometimes at 5:48 p.m. Pacific time if it's a little late like we are today we're keeping expectations low today though so that's kind of the theme of today's show but yeah we stream live to twitch.tv slash awesome awesome hardware as well as to my channel or to Kyle's channel on YouTube we do at the same time twitch in YouTube it's amazing I'm drawing this out anyway we'll be streaming on my channel for about an hour switching over to Kyle's channel in about an hour after that we have lots of fun stuff to talk about today and we're drinking beer so this is this is my beer its bells I wanted to show this because it's a beer we were drinking last week and I forgot to say what it was it's a bell amber ale I like that one from Michigan from Comstock Michigan quite um so yeah Cheers as you can combine beers in the lands of Japan it's known as switching to that sin to Asahi Asahi is a very rare and obscure beer I think the hipsters know about this one Subaru I brought the second one for you yes I'm gonna open that in just a second okay first turn Cheers geez thanks guys for joining us mm-hmm delicious tasty okay apologies for being late and I were blaming Kyle for that yep won't go into details yeah sure it was it was messy though it was messy there was stuff on the walls it was go everywhere but a few a few announcements to start out the show as usual we are selling stuff on our stores so check it out pulsar bread net is my store we're having a t-shirt design contest links to that at the top if you want to enter 300 bucks if we use your full design hundred squeeze your idea three homes we have a new awesome hardware swordfight church that is right here front and center at the top of my store as well as stainless steel bottle openers boom look at that beautiful that's just like my nvidia similar one to your NVIDIA GeForce one but it's way better cuz it's got my logo on it yeah thumb screw deck super awesome so yeah check that stuff out the the the awesome hardware sure train here guys you can buy from either of our stores Kyle and I are splitting the profits from this so it doesn't matter whose store you buy it from correct we will both get money but there it is this is of I by Brian aka Marek Marek SOT Matt I still need to get myrrh accent myrrh exit because we need to talk to Tim but how is that ice finesse if I remember critical I think one time I said it and he's like that's exactly right how Kyle said it no I can't believe they first announced right anyway it's it's on a high quality tri-blend black so buy those and hopefully there's two UH two colors right it's two colors but right now this 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show and it'll be awesome and a reminder also that I am giving away a really really nice computer right now so that link should be in this video's description oh can I enter the giveaway ball you could I'm allowed that would that would save on shipping for sure you know I have like three YouTube accounts that but triple nods yeah enter with all of those but and this is a main gear are one razor Edition PC it's like retail cost is like well over five thousand dollars this guy out I rise in eighteen hundred X processor to a GTX 1080s an SLI with a full custom water-cooled loop 960 a samsung 960 process D and MSI titanium the X 370 gaming titanium motherboard it's a really really nice system so it's pretty and it's been sitting in my garage for several months that adds to which novelty it's like it's like storing wine in in special wine containers Hall may have even sneezed on it once or twice yeah just gradually gotten more and more overclocked on its own just that we asked them if that can happen it just gets quieter and cooler alright we're gonna we're gonna have a relatively quick show today mainly because I have done very little research on the things I'm going to talk about it hey I have a new segment though it's called SSDs nuts and I had a really good idea for a lower segment get it with SSDs and then that's I'll do it in the future you guys I think it's hilarious for now let's do tuned and rip the rumor mill up there no that was every moment I actually faced up hey but alright so we're talking about us as these stuff lead story here this is from PC perspective story by Allen Mellon Tom vrock is Intel's version of raid with nvme SSDs and they have been sort of teasing a bit for their ex $2.99 platform but in various ways that have pissed people off in various ways because at first it was like oh that's gonna cost $500 for this add-on little dongle that you have to plug in in order to unlock it and it's only gonna work with Intel SSDs only Intel brand SSDs none of the other ones I go that's stupid too but then like the Red River happened and then V Rock never really liked that we just never really heard much more about it so this is the first kind of furthering of the V Rock story that I've seen in quite a while so I wanted to kind of share it here but Alan basically took V Rock in its current state very unrefined and untested and very like conflicting information that he was getting as he was going through his testing when it came to like for instance what Isis was saying in their documentation for their PCIe riser card versus what Intel was saying as far as what was available like you should like you should be able to do raid zero but none of the other raids oh but Intel's said the other thing it's it's it's really confusing button point is if you have had say z170 Z 270 or X 99 or X 299 so now you've had the ability to take several SSDs and nvme SSDs and plug them in and put them in raid configuration but those are all piped through the chipset and the chipset whether you talkin X 299 or z170 or C 270 only has the DMI 3.0 link between the chipset and the CPU that's a four PCIe gen3 lanes basically so it's kind of like acting like a big switch so if you were to do that basically you're not gonna get the full speed out of all of your SSDs in your raid configuration because there's just they're going through a bottleneck of the chipset vrock promises to offer the ability to rate up your SSDs direct PCI Express connection to the to the CPU and make a bootable array and we're still not sure by the way the article doesn't really have an answer for this if it's going to cost money and what the actual disposition of that dongle is all the testing that Alan did at least as far as I could tell he did without the dongle and he did just with existing hardware and everything and and drivers that he was able to download off the internet but he clarified some some terminology like v rock which is virtue right on see if you vmd which is a volume management device which is sort of Intel's nomenclature you can take the processor will group up to 16 lanes of storage or 4x4 into a single PCIe storage domain and you have three VMD controllers per CPU and then with V rack you can actually boot off of one of those but with V rack you can also take multiple ones of those if you don't need to boot off of them and start a stitch them together or address them with multiple CPUs so as far as the ability to set up some pretty cool raid configurations whether you're on the high end of the consumer side or whether you're on the sort of entry level or interested in keep getting cheaper stuff on the enterprise side it seems fairly interesting so anyway of course the article is very much more detail than all my articles linked in the video's description so check them out down there but he have a couple different setups he's in the ACS hyper M 2 by 16 card a a little bit of information about here about PCIe bifurcation which is a must be supported by the motherboard it's basically allows you to split C PCIe Lane subgroups without the need for a PC plx chip and that's what's is required for the full amount of bandwidth going to this card anyway though he goes through the entire story here and I wish I had more detailed notes on this so I could rattle it off for you very quickly but I don't so are all the PCIe lanes that V Rock uses straight from the CPU yes ok yes cuz I heard other random stuff in the past but you'd like you said there's a lot of misinformation going around I had also heard like depending on what kind of raid array you were you were creating that would also determine the price point of the controller or if you needed a controller well maybe a zero didn't require a dongle at all but if you want to do raid 5 or whatever one in five so then you have to you know pay X amount for a dongle and you know or I think it was raid 1 in 10 you had to pay X amount and then you had to pay Y amount for a raid 5 or something like that but again that was all very very early right before the I'm hunting this down in this story as we as we speak which is probably riveting entertainment for the people who are watching sure where did it go it must be in the last page I'm enthralled okay until I absolutely see all right I'd have to be on the first page I don't even know what the dongle looks like sir picture I've only seen a picture of one oh yes that's right let's go babe even cable around it all right so here's here I found it I found it okay confusion and configuration with the test setup because if you look at the Intel vrock vac it says for Intel VI pass-through you don't get raid support stand-alone nvme based SSDs can basically connect up to it no problem until vrock standard right raid 0 110 support and you need a standard hardware key Intel VR premium 0 1 5 and 10 and there's a premium key right but then the Asus says that you don't need the key at all for raid 0 down here mm-hmm and they have some pictures of the key and stuff but then Allen went and he like this you can also set the the the raid configuration up at two different ways you can do it in software from the operating system using until our ste or you can do it from the from the yeah the bio so the the the option ROM as that's loading once you've switched your your controller over to RAID mode so he basically he when he was trying to do one like he was trying to set it up as a bootable array and from from the BIOS environment and it wouldn't let him but then he went into oh wait no no Intel says no great sport without a key but ASA says raid zero is no need but he's looking at this right here which is a software setup but basically set allows him to select raid 1 raid 0 or raid 5 or raid 10 and he said he can select any of those and all of them work Oh with no dongle he says they all create usable raised that report is bootable interface is reporting that he's in a trial mode but everything seems to work except for boots of maybe I'm a thing yeah so anyway once v ark has enabled the bass allows you to configure is directly notes a pair of until six enter PS s DS can be selected while the pair of Samsung 960 pros do not so this goes goes back to the drive support thing until stripes are supposed to be supported samsung drives or not however when he goes in here he's actually able to set them up in a raid configuration so yeah it's it's very it's very interesting I read over this article earlier today I actually did read the article I didn't I didn't put notes on the article which is why I'm kind of scattered as far as going over it right now but I found a fascinating that's linked in the description you guys should check it out v Rock is a thing and it is there and we're not sure what's happening next with it Allen made some interesting first steps as far as just testing out some various configurations he was testing for obtained until obtain drives 32 gig Intel updated drives in and raid together which were actually destroying for samsung 960 nvme SSDs when it comes to AI ops performance which is pretty crazy so like octane there's like a lot of really cool stuff behind and it's like intel had to come out with opted in memory and react look it's and I says it's like a hard drive accelerator and everyone's like no we don't want that and it's stupid yeah but the drives themselves are fairly interesting and exciting and hopefully we'll see more from them and hopefully we'll see actual obtain drives that we can just use anyway though if you don't want to worry about whatever is going on with Intel's nvme raid support why don't you just use Thunderbird because thread repair today AMD launched the threader / support for nvme raid basically in any configuration you want as long as you have the ability to connect up the drive to your system okay yeah so there's there's been a little bit of early testing on this you're connecting directly so no DMI bottlenecking are going to a chipset or anything like that up to six drives it says up to six drives with raid zero one or ten okay up to six drives with grade zero one or ten that's pretty good is that's yeah it's not bad at all yeah so yeah open for seven I was really hoping you know I could get that seventh drive in there but well I mean whatever considering that the options for adding drives with the riser cards and you know the fact that you got 64 PCIe lanes with threader Bert yeah I mean six is like six times four so that's 24 at that point at that point the only only limitation is your wallet yeah so you're only using up like bottlenecked by my bank account the only using up like a third of your available PCIe lanes with six of them right so now I'm pissed and I missed it AMD Andy how dare you give this to people for three for free after they bought your your stuff you'll never be good you'll never be great if you don't charge people money yes so this was we we briefly talked about this on the show but um there Bauer who's just becoming more and more legendary with all the different things he's accomplishing but he posted a video about this like fairly early testing eight nvme m dot two SSDs in rates so this is also why I thought like six might be a strange limitation cuz he did it with eight an X 99 third person so maybe this was maybe that's why they made him take it back because well he posted a video about naked yeah but um he had eight samsung 960 pro SSDs or pro M de Ville SSDs I don't know if those are coming they are for them or what he had the Asus hyper m dot 2 card and yeah he gots diameter transfer speeds in excess of twenty eight thousand three hundred seventy five megabytes per second twenty eight twenty eight gigs so we need gigabytes per second hot damn transfer speeds pretty crazy sure yeah I'm sure now that this is out there's probably gonna be more more going on as far as people trying out different raid configurations connecting it all up and everything like that but for now that's all that's all we have to say about that it's pretty epic though yeah I'd like to see how that performs like a real world real world scenario like video editing or something yeah I mean for for anyone who exists anyone who works with like 4k and up video as far as like really really dense video like that's this is awesome to have yeah just as far as editing and everything um but yeah damn right speeds dimmer sequential rams so I I would like several of these I just how about I I'd like to be de Brouwer let me just wear his skin see what he sees well I mean he gets all the phones a lot of this stuff he gets this is pretty awesome but I mean like this isn't it isn't too far out of range you gotta ain't get hit up a suits maybe to get those hyper n dot two cards I don't know if you can just buy those over the counter yet or if you if you actually have to get them directly but yeah in any case all right now is the middle of the show and in the middle of the show we're going to do a brief double segments we're gonna start off with male I I was gonna have the male lower thirds on here but you know the show's chaos today so where is it right man to man up I'm going up into man real quick at the same time though kowelska yes am first in what is that what's in package number one I don't know who's that from mmm looks like it's from Amazon it's a store someone ordered something from Amazon and had it set to me meanwhile this is from Brian is it oh is that mmm okay this is for Brian this is an Amazon room Washington I don't think I don't know if this is the same brand ah got you balloons oh really because you have mentioned on stream a pump that use their pump in there that you have at one point in your life been a balloon animal artist or a balloon artist is there what's the official name for that balloon is a Balloon Twister blue a blue balloon it Oh see please make a gift for you please make all the balloon things on the next awesome hardware I'm sure I'm not the only one sending you balloons a loyal huge fan loved watching you and Kyle Jerry Whelan thank you very much Jerry are these two 60s I'm excited about this gift the most because I don't have to do anything but I can reap all the benefits of watching Paul it'll build a PC out of shyness alright I'll have to check it out next week on my half of the show Oh make make eight different components and then build a balloon pump there's all native here is there yeah oh yeah okay so this is for me or it's a balloon with a boner it's very solid very solid balloon their shirts and stuff oh maybe it is it's not to be happy yeah oh that is him this is a design yes this is brains okay I didn't know he was named Brian but now I can sent this a set of his shirts cray cray this one this is like right before we finally came through and started American tourists but American tourists awareness every time I do the vlog in the channel actually just did a vlog in this accent parsley the whole vlog no hopefully you're just for like 10 seconds but this is awesome and then what else is here I like the the what is this well we had a good better the good better best improved get better bit with yeah Tim application line method is good P method is better and the turd is of course my trademark application I think that was first first showcased in a sales built the cell above the billeted oh yeah the old turd man in the classic these are great as well Brian makes awesome says it's a commercial sample which makes me think it was probably sent from like some merchants will see there's no real name I don't not be an ad oh oh they're more balloons from a different person I don't know maybe yeah well I think they probably ordered them together but they that they ship said ah so extra extra extra balloons finally from Kelvin from Wyoming we have one more Calvin Klein thank you so kind of next time you get the the Intel packages I I got another one since then and I you saw the little tab before I just ripped it open all those fluffs came out Oh item for upgrade kit for a cryo rig cooler it's for your htpc or something for upgrade kit type see what why would this be since this looks Type C I think is for like one of the this is low pro this is 77 yeah that I what a weird thing to send me out so you don't have a need for that there's no inside joke or it inside no I asked cryo rig just cry rig sent me one of these for Rachel's built uh-huh and I used it right I just don't know why this would show up wait this is this is is he from Kyrie yeah I think so okay well I think Kelvin is from crier but why would but they know my egg why would this is my P o box I know that's strange alright thanks Craig for I think I'm pretty sure I'm pretty much all right let's move on though nice guy to the next brief part of this segment which is our sponsor spot all right whoo that's right it is getting towards the end of the year which means a sponsor sponsors are willing to sponsor even awesome hardware so late school really knew what a sponsor for today's show we're gonna celebrate their there a deep cool captain IX RGB with some balloon animals all boxes are hard here can you push the laptop back oh wow that's a smidge that is a that is a glorified penis pump oh I'll get my actual oh I'm gonna need to go back to the balloon actually the balloon store is near here you know of a balloons yes like is it oh it's like an industrial party store where you go yeah oh wow look at that alright this is captain 240 x RGB white actually comes in black and light comes with an LED strip yeah it's RGB now I know it's I know the unit's RGB but what yeah there's an RGB strip does the RGB strip fusion put anywhere in your case probably well that's cool is it there's a cable that comes with it pretty decent paint job on the radiator and has some pre-applied Tim action right here one of the most unique water blocks for sure I like that you're holding a balloon I'm Bulacan cool like yeah let's let's compare here there's definitely reserves liquid cool bit easier to get hit in the face with a solid build quality actually I like the tubing it's fairly flexible not much kink it that's got it's got some nice sleeve is leaving there on the tubing and it's thicker some of the earlier on one units at very thin tubing I'm pretty sure that wasn't as I'm pretty sure the center of the water block has RGB LED as well if I remember correctly yeah lights up in the middle is yeah there's a there's a picture see oh yeah I always forget to look at the pictures yeah oh the fans are white too yeah also right man actually the the frames not just the blade blades are black fanfare actually wait pretty nice this is this is like what I would use for like a whitetail if I do another white build I might use one of these because I'm sorry it saves you the hassle of having to spray paint all the existing white radiators and stuff nice-looking fans yellow I lacked your fans and the fans are sleeve the kid the cable on this fan has a really nice black sleeping on it so it does cool some rubber pads on the corners of the fan I made this for you what is this is a whoa what did that happen but you did that so fast I didn't even realize you were doing things I've been focusing I would have been paying attention oh my god this is so cool you seriously what what these balloons aren't too bad actually freaking awesome let's see feel like I feel like there's a whole side of you Paul that I don't even know about see if I can remember how to do a person I'm let's just see this is why I should everyone oh no no I'm inviting you to my Knicks birthday party why didn't you do this with my birthday party no cuz oh wait yeah why do you do this what what you have this ability and you've not been doing this at my birthday party every year because this is why well it's the type of thing that you don't show people like yo it's supposed to know this about you because then they ask you to do it all the time and then eventually tired of it because it's awesome that's been a while well that's why you that's why you charge them and you rake in the big bucks I mean there's a price you you got to value your time phone certain learn the values you gotta cut things up like how you can always like how you can redistribute the air oh this tails all gone now but if you just give them a little bit okay see now I'm the opposite of you when it comes to balloon animals I will pop them quickly information I can't even get his tail back to normal Oh nasty ass tail it's terrible legs I start the legs that's ready Jesus Christ damn it oh my god a snake you are a maze out Kyle that's not a snake you're so good yeah you do a snake how did you do that it's even got like you know snake tail I'm sure there's snakes in that that's how off track I response respond yes no I mean I think it's fine yeah yeah we've done the unboxing oh yeah clearly RGB in the middle very nice this I should also mention that the Kevin 40x custom 240 X also does come in black we have a black one behind us as well we're gonna unbox the black gonna my house look at that a bit more standard I like the light one I think yeah Salazar used one of these coolers in this white build white build a while back it might not have been the captain 240 X is fairly new but pop anything else scaring me I don't like you know there are some people who are deathly afraid of balloons right yeah like phobia like balloons obeah they don't like it popping or whatever it is they get it no I think about it but it's like that it's like that anticipation like waiting for it oh and the the squeaking noise then there's just more I talk about it the more I release I'm like creating my own balloon phobia right now no it's not a sweet release it's just every time I happen to know god what was that we're not again what is it is that a ninja sure yes is that no that's how you gotta sell it to the kids it's not a person it's a ninja it's a ninja and the Kittel I mean I wouldn't believe it yes anyways I made you a pink and purple mist seriously how did you even know how do you still remember how do that is what I'm surprised right now yes how do you remember how to make like the dog I feel like you've done the dog is very million times something you'll probably never forget but this is like I've never even seen this he like literally there's so many different like Lynda maybe it has four limbs and a head and a body like I can make a motorcycle and make him ride it what whoa whoa okay okay you gotta save some of this for my half the show or something cause half of the show comes even got little like Woody's like flipping me off like a screw you guys little tendrils are foreign I do what I want damn so so is this one balloon or two - yeah skills yo it's like I was I remember it kind of how it went and then I was like we'd know how does it start yeah you got to start from the bottom you start making the feet mix of the Vega 56 or 64 alright well thank you very much deep cool thanks sponsoring this half of Awesome hardware we appreciate it you're gonna go check out their stuff wonderful peace they make great products alright let's move on to some some standard ass tech news standard s check net secrete second name first off shoes TSMC the Taiwan Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation is going to build the world's first three nanometer fab in Taiwan Taiwan has quite a few fabs they know they are there it's a fabulous place it's gonna be built in the Tianna a Tynan's Science Park I mean that's in southern Thai taijuan time an so there's like taipei is is like north city time man I think is South City I forget exactly but anyway but it's potentially gonna be built in the u.s. due to political reasons it says however they opted to keep their production capabilities clustered in this science park where they can better leverage their assets yeah it's at least part of the manufacturing machines will be provided by a SML and netherlands-based company who has recently grown a lot twenty five percent revenue growth this left this last year so yeah we don't have any timelines for three and any of your production it's probably not gonna actually be available in products until about twenty twenty-two but it does say TSM she does say that they're 7 nanometre yields are ahead of schedules so that's good that's good news ahead of schedule they they have announced plans to enter insert several extreme ultraviolet layers EUV layers f7 nanometers they also have a 5 nanometer roadmap on track for launch in first quarter of 2019 do we have any speculation as to what the 3 nanometer tech will be used for first iPhones probably no I mean it's they get all the cool stuff it's it's it's hard to say there yeah you know yeah processors of some kind it's probably an educated guess to be made there but yeah well we can dream not today we're still stuck on the day fourteen scatterbrain and miss okay moving on AMD's RX vegas 64 better than the 1080i in one game in four is the seven better at this one this is so this is for the seven Rex X 12 so silly ordered a new game racing game but I mean beating the 1080 TI by up to 23% and 407 in one yeah well good I mean one game but Vega beating today's yeah in one game that's why like Leslie at 1920 by 1080 look how much better the Vegas 64 years than the 1080 TI at 1920 by 1080 even org Vega 56 is better than it in one game why didn't they lead with that that would have been more impressive rate that title that's impressive to look at that look at frame rate look at the 99th percentile frame look look kids even behind the fury X is getting less less and less impressive yeah the the gap narrows a little bit at 2560 by 1440 so was there any speculation as to why this happened why why you do AMD cards I can give you a really vague like ballpark sort of explanation it's not very good for K though 1080i comes roaring back Dominator roaring back although still loses so is it like heavily cpu-bound percent game so is this game super CPU intensive that wouldn't be my expectation it's so-so Vega has it's it's it's proficiencies and it's proficiencies have a lot to do with like memory bandwidth as well as certain parts of the architecture that I'm not not going to attempt to to discuss right now but DirectX 12 is not just it's not like there's just one thing that DirectX 12 does and like it's how good the graphics card is if that one DirectX 12 thing DirectX 12 is a library there's lots of different features in DirectX 12 that developers can implement in the games and some games implement this feature in some games implement this feature so what you're seeing here as far as a7 has implemented a lot of DirectX 12 features that are conducive to good performance with Vega and the benefits that it gets from for instance having an insane amount of bandwidth from HBM to memory so this is a DX 12 game this is DirectX 12 I mean okay I'm not positive because I don't know enough about it if four is the seven can also be running direct eleven that's possibility this might be prot it probably can I mean if if any other game from des directx12 is any indication usually they can they can run in either mode but um yeah this is specifically in DirectX well well but it is one of those things that goes to show like there is like when you have a when you have a hardware design that is working closely with the software development you know you can get a lot more performance out of in certain situations okay sure that's this as far as I'm gonna go there uh all right next up GoPro they're still around they're still kicking still doing stuff yep the hero six has been launched today this is not today this is actually on Thursday or Friday last week I upon goes yep five large five hundred dollars the here six black there it is just shoot like what eight K hundred and twenty FPS now no but it can do 4k at 60 frames per second finally 4k six that's that bet first-of-its-kind it does two point seven K at 120 frames per second and can do 240 super slow-mo shots 240 FPS 1080p which is which is pretty cool there it is got kind of a great finish shot dribble that's all I have to say you gonna get one probably not you know I've never owned a GoPro I have a hero for I got when it was on a big time sale Black Friday last year how much have you used it I use it for time lapses fairly regularly because like doing time lapses with my more expensive cameras like my my mirror less cameras and stuff like that you know it takes a picture every time it wait so it can wear out the shutter so yeah doing those time lapses where it's taking thousands of pictures I preferred not to do it on that if I can so alright now that I figured out how to use the hero4 properly with that so you just Wi-Fi to it with the camera with your phone and you know set up the frame and everything like that it's nice to be able to have to set up and just go time lapse then of course your editor has to use it put it in the goddamn video that he headed it is a sign aside about it is this a low-key last year the video turned for you your video turned out great in it it was one of those things where like I I went through the whole like his when he had it's when he had its my videos I tied like he like I take them and I load them up and then I like I might go through and like change some things here and there or whatever yeah I went through the whole thing and then I was like wait I never saw the time-lapse yeah I never used it like it worked just fine without it and I was like man I said yeah right rendered it outs like any time I do that and I import photos and it's like a whole day time-lapse was like sixteen thousand photos or whatever yeah if he's watching this he probably feels terrible Joe I'm just kidding totally fine he was talking mad on you before the show next up USB 3.2 boo man I just I just getting used to 3.1 gen2 yeah just barely started to come and do its own and now we've got 3.2 overshadowed by a higher number a higher sexier number so it's been in development and discussed some of the details as far as the expected speeds of whatnot this is the actual official announcement by the USC the group of Huddle's cloaked figures we presume who my videos I differently that's their secret chanted like Native American hey that's the Native American groups that presides over the USB why can't they be Native American poem so what's the problem with what email easy they wouldn't be I just when I wasn't why do you want to kill all the Native Americans all I was picturing more like it you know a high council in space somewhere or something like that you know like a like the Emperor like a bunch of dudes who look like the Emperor like around in the day right that's what I did - and then you had them then he gave me the the you know the Indian chanting and I was kind of like wow that really shows the Rose left my suddenly they I imagine it yet suddenly they have feathers maybe they are in space floating on a satellite a satellite that's connected to Earth by only a USB 4.0 cable well that would be a good way to do it because no one has no one has that technology yet so no one would be able to even know what if us before point out cable looks like that's true it probably this is visible but he was performing ableism is invisible it's fully invisible Wireless it's more you evening 4.0 cables are wireless that's why you can't see them yep imagine the transfer rates that's amazing I gotta get on the future man this board of Native America is exciting I am looking forward to it alright but now we have to now we have to settle for shitty USB 3.2 damn it if you don't talk to a 4.0 someone it's it's boosted up transfer speeds though - 2 gigabytes per second that so it actually doubles the the bandwidth it goes you're going from five gigabits per to 10 gigabits per second there they're showing actual throughput versus whatever I don't care that article can be confusing this is Tom's Hardware damn it Tom I'm just so I feel like I feel like theoretical throughput is usually listed in bits and bit rate but whatever um because it's 2 gigabytes it looks like well I know it's 2 Giga bits right yeah so Jen won so so so just to give you a pretty brief history here of the USB 3.0 because USB 3.0 came out it's pretty cool and everything it took like a year and a half to get motherboard headers for it and then finally they did and we're like you know that was a long wait for the crappiest header on the motherboard but whatever it works gives you five gigabits per second that's that's your bandwidth available then they then they were like we have USB 3.1 now at have almost 3.1 it was actually standards updates so there was like compatibility stuff like that USB 3.1 so that's USB 3.1 gen2 actually increase the bandwidth it's still five gigabits the USB 3.1 gen2 is what actually doubles the bandwidth mm-hmm USB 3.1 gen2 there's actually that new header for the motherboard and stuff with which is pretty cool ten gigabits per second there though USB 3.0 is what this is and that's doubling from 10 to 20 ok so there you go I was confused because it says 2 gigabits per second in the notes that's gigabytes per second oh ok Big B Big B yes yeah so they're they're dividing but they're dividing by 8 they're gone and they're also probably showing an actual through throughput rates rather than theoretical just dividing that anyway um so at this rate we can probably expect 3.1 to make a scene make it on the scene in what like 3 years based on how similarly say point 1 yeah cuz I mean we still don't have like I don't I own one USB 3.1 device maybe two I just feel like it's it's caught on really slow and so I feel like there's more so there's more stuff coming in as this did you see Dimitri's video on hardware connects about making your own you know USB flash drive with it ESP Drive I didn't watch it but this little m dot 2 slots that you've just popped into making it a USB Drive was it a Type C some of them some of them work so oh he made multiple yeah you used a few different devices and compared them in stuff but yeah it's hopping around coming around but yeah I was kind of like I mean do you remember when SSDs first came out and you realize like oh I can get a say that a USB adapter with it with an SSD and make a really fast like flash drive right I mean like man that's a lot you know an SSDs were expensively you know I could 32 gig SSD was expensive so it's like it's a lot to spend on just making an external drive but then you realize after a while like no it's actually really convenient to have something external that's that fast right so anyway also they have to keep up and keep competing with although they have also crossover with thunder so anyway there do you go finally last story for my half of the show before we move on my show we're happy we're slightly shorter Habs this for today partially because there's a big launch coming up this week and there's a lot of work going on for that but anyway one last story here this is from NCI X and the NCI except tek-tips crew has apparently been dwindling I was not very aware of this and now as of today oh gosh this post to the video and he's leaving so like there's no one there anymore wait so who else left before him like everyone is gone everyone like Julia Jack yeah Jack yeah I so you can you can tell when they left by going and looking at their video history right so like six days ago you go back one week here's Jack's video Wow so this s-someone happen within like a week but I think it goes back a little bit further than that cuz I mean like wheels left a while back he left like well er year ago it wasn't really on camera much he was more behind the scenes yeah so yeah Jack Jack left and then I guess before that other people left too so yeah it appears that their team has been dwindling and now is like pretty much gone and it Keys kind of talks about a little bit about what what what he might be doing in the future and that he might be doing some videos they might be posting like one video a week now on the channel but yeah it's it sucks for fans of NCIX did they announce every time somebody new left or somebody else would leave I haven't had enough time to go back and do all that research remember yeah but my like but um I was reading some comments and it seemed like Julia left a while ago but I don't think she did a signing I'll sign off or anything like that and that really she but interesting I'm sure there's more details behind that that we're not cheese rivey - but wonder who's gonna eventually take hold of this you know over 1 million subscriber channel now that's pretty crazy yes in saying that they there's over 1 million subscribers there and that the challenge is going away but you know and there might be there might be more going on with the company as a whole as far as the management there and everything but you know we don't really know any details so we're not gonna I could say too much on that but usually I always I was like that linked to daily it was a mmm that was punchy well put together yep we never even attempted to compete with it back when we were at new egg no never actually we did we did but yeah that's all from my half of the show no not quite we're almost done with I have the show we're gonna we're gonna really quickly go and see if anyone that posted any comments and donation comments thanks double thanks to any of you guys who who did donation comments last week by the way yeah I don't know if you saw but later that evening I did the donation to support Oh Riko posted that on Twitter and ended up hella money's ended up there was an addendum ended up being about like four hundred seventy five ish bucks that was was submitted last week in donation comments and I had promised to match that so I ended up just rounding it up and 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using on the card itself yeah and that's still just kind of weird I mean if if you're talking about a flicker that's constant I hope you're talking about a flicker that's constant and not just Isis always flicks on and off so so yeah there we go I would maybe check your power supplies going through the monitors to the computers I've got like an old power strip you're connected to or something like that but that is a very strange truck problem Ajay I think there's something weird with your graphics card yeah if it's happening on both monitors whichever one is the main then I think something's wrong with your graphics card and maybe try using the integrated graphics on your motherboard if you don't have a spare graphics card to troubleshoot with and see if that fixes anything and start there but I really don't know how to help you much further until we have more information but good luck it's just a process of elimination as much as you can try to try to isolate one thing and test it in 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typically speaking unless you've done like a lot of crazy thermal cycling like getting really really hot and then cooling off but that would probably degrade your CPU more than it would Tim yeah I mean a replicating better now than it did a year ago probably have more to do with dust build up build up and in the case and just then we're may not being as much yeah it's dark Rock Pro so there might be more stuff in between the fins and stuff on there that's keeping it from yeah cooling quite as efficiently as it did before give it a good cleaning and reapply the thermal paste and see what happens yeah I bet that would help a little Tom's breads in the brims min Thank You Tom's for the 55.5 5 Norwegian Norwegian krone I read you've got a rock forgot to order some spicy snacks to your peel box maybe next time next time you know what just to pro tip maybe send us some spicy snacks that we could at least somewhat eat because I feel like that would be less less of a waste of your awesome gift 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