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thanks for being with us here right now we're drinking Lagunitas book loco Tangled Tango Foxtrot Foxtrot text yeah you get the reference there correct yeah WTF WTF a multirow best jobless recovery ale doesn't know what that means Lagunitas brewery has some random it's really good though it is quite tasty alright starting out with tech news over on Anandtech they had a little little blurb here about Nvidia's I don't and stuff they're talking about it's over that's the events going on in it where is it in Europe yeah it's a good robot GTC Europe 2017 going on right now so Nvidia they talked about car stuff and usually when a video talks about car stuff you're like all right and video let's move on to it let's get rid of the GPU stuff pretty much this actually does have some trickle-down some crossover with the mainstream GPUs in that apparently this unit that they're talking about here the Drive px Pegasus actually is using the next next generation of Intel GPUs in sight until GPUs I'm sorry NVIDIA GPUs oh I've had a few drinks okay this is Nvidia teacher this is a videos first level 5 system and we've talked about autonomous driving before and there's different levels in it level 5 is like the full thing completely autonomous drives itself no human interaction to be sleeping the car drives up and you get in and the car drives you to where you want to go and that's and that's what it is ok this is a big step for them when it comes to the hardware that they've developed that's capable of doing the things that needs to be done in order to have an autonomous vehicle which is scanning lots of information that's in front of it analyzing objects and that kind of thing and determining the best way to drive without killing people good but inside this unit they have two unannounced post Volta next-gen discrete GPUs yeah you might actually see what it looks to be like four units here this appears to be probably a couple of the GPUs and a couple are the SOC s according to the article this is the holy grail of what NVIDIA has been building towards over the last few years because NVIDIA has been doing a lot in autonomous vehicle technology and driverless car technology because it is a field that potentially has an insane amount of money to be made within it oh yeah yeah so you can get in on the ground floor than that - I do now to be clear this was announced today dev kits in this unit won't be available until next year NVIDIA is only shipping big volta are the large voltage Eevee 104 compute products recently if you're in the enterprise space if you're in the retail or the mainstream consumer gamer space you're still dealing with the Pascal garbage that the trend voice doesn't litter useless crappy Pascal 10 80s and 1080p eyes while the enterprise has their full - I'm throwing away my 1080i yes here is its eighties it's going in the garbage they're horrible smash it with a hammer first it but volt is exciting of course but there's already Volta product shipping this is this is the generation after volts on if you look at any of the roadmaps they only go up to Volta we haven't seen any of the leaked roadmaps that have anything beyond that but obviously and Vidya does have plans and stuff in the work in the works the heart or hearts of this pegasus units are going to be to xavier SOC vidya has been developing they combined and integrated Volta GPU that has Nvidia I'm sorry Volta tensor cores integrated into it as well with unnamed octa-core arm the CPU at with an unnamed octa-core arm CPU design okay so that's the SOC they kind of run this the show and then of course the host Pascal based GPUs are what do the heavy lifting there's a little bit of deduction done here in the article because the overall unit here is supposed to have a 500 watt TDP but still supposed to be air-cooled which is somewhat impressive it is supposed to go on a vehicle so you might have a different thermal environments that they're dealing with no is this something that's gonna be shipping with cars natively by default out of the box one so to speak when you get them or is this gonna be something that you can add to a car to make it the car would probably need to be designed with this integrated in but this is also an early announced unit probably what this is going to be used as for development purposes whereas in two three four years when there's actually vehicles that are being developed with this integrated they're probably gonna have newer technologies the hardware is probably gonna not get it not gonna be exactly the same okay but they do have some specs based on it here including some teraflops numbers as well as of course DDP as well as DL tops which is a AI benchmark number that I'm only just familiarizing myself with which I assume means to order pizza Sri securely that's probably I'm probably only saying that because I'm hungry anyway um but 500 watt TDP air-cooled based on the other component tree that goes into this units the good folks over Annan antics have deduced that there's probably around a 220 watt TDP left over for each of those two GPUs and those GPUs probably most likely are the exact same GPUs in the exact same architecture and maybe even the exact same silicon that would be also be ported over it to be used in desktop GPUs as well that's why it's somewhat interesting from the gamers perspective but it's hard to 20 watt TDP is fairly high as GPS go so that would make them high-end G X 100 Class G X 102 class GPU designs right if they're following the naming conventions that's Nvidia is used for volta and Pascal and so on yeah these devices are going to be targeting commercial applications in it Robo taxis and driverless long-haul trucking so we've talked a little bit about autonomous vehicles here it's coming it's going to happen and it certainly seems like one of the key areas that's people who are developing in this area are looking at is basically where a lot of driving happens with which is taxis jobs where the job involves driving for a large portion of the time long-haul trucking so if you're in those fields I would follow this pretty closely yeah you might be out of a job pretty soon yeah because there's a serious potential here for these types of things to overtake a lot of jobs that people do right now and discussing the outcome of the potentials of that trend is beyond the scope of what we're gonna do on today's show cuz we've been drinking we're not yes we have deal with it we're not qualified to talk about any of this okay so let's move on yay so there was a bit of a hubbub over the past few days about blue Intel potentially having a cpu with Vega with a Vega GPU or Vega GPU cores integrated into it this was actually originally from a site called nasty Lima tech mess nasi lemak tech comm it was METEC it was picked up and regurgitated by WC CF Tech and WCC F Tech along with several other websites basically helped spread the information like oh maybe this is thing of the work with them and Vidya I'm sorry with Intel and AMD but um it's not true anyone who's heard any of this stuff recently it's not this is the reason why a lot of the times when we bring in a WCC F tech article to you and show you guys stuff about it we like this is a WCC F Tech are taken with a grain of salt take it with a grain of salt but there's lots of other websites as well that have been kind of duped by this so and it kind of just explodes from there all you can use is one source and then everyone thinks it's true yeah cuz it's on the Internet it must be so this originated an action and pulling up WCC F Tech right now because I wanted to look at the article itself and see if they've posted a correction because this has been corrected and the information is no longer true no they have met I mean I don't know there's nothing in this article that they've updated incorrect so this is the picture that this is all basically still getting which is like oh it's blurry and granulated and it says Vega inside and maybe that means that Intel because this looks somewhat official maybe that means that Intel is developing a CPU that actually has Vega internally no that's not the case where did they say that was picture was even from or taken that was actually taken it's it's from an Intel facility but it's because Intel has a program going on and this is from a tech critter comm with the expose on this story intel has a program going on it's part of an employee approach appreciation program where they take their employees and they blow up their ears and they make posters of them I'm sure it's not awkward at all standing inside and they put the name of the employee and inside inside because their employees calling something right there's a pollen side oh that guy's that guy's he's an imposter Paul you're that guy I don't trust him Paul inside trying to assume your identity so yeah Intel in their efforts there's a person amused employee morale or whatever an employee named Vega did this thing and yes there's an employee named Vega so there's a guy that Vega insight on it and a bunch of websites picked this story up and started being like what's Intel working on with and with Radeon technologies if you're at the freakin event you would've known right so um it's not true it's been debunked the original hold on but okay but can we can we argue whether or not this would make a pretty compelling offer if Nvidia and Intel teamed up to make some killer yes you it would be a hairy it would agree it would be a very interesting story it's super exciting Intel has denied it every time they've been asked about it they categorically said no that's not happening and we're not working on it so this is wouldn't they had everything to gain and nothing to lose because AMD is both of their competitors all right well right wouldn't that make sense like it APU partnership between Intel and NVIDIA I don't see why that hasn't happened yet I mean because you know there's probably some glaring reason why why they don't work together on something like that but yeah I just feel like for the consumer awesome this is where the story originated on that's still the Matt techcom who posted as they should have done update false alarm guys with additional information about it I caught this story because Ryan shroud from PC perspective was tweeting about it and I will say that anyone who's reported on the story who's not posted an update and clarified things with people you're basically seeing they're leaving their story up there as a clickbait thing that people will click on and read and be mislead so that they can get more traffic and make more money and it's kind of BS yeah so shame shame to anyone who is doing that was it wasn't by anthe I don't know was it the middle of at the end me Chad Pegasus TSMC hey we're scrubbing through the tweak town website with no adblock origin going by fast a patriot it's a Christmas miracle if it is still there it might be buried or something like that don't watch the latest Star Wars trailer because I heard that it's full of spoilers oh really that's what wifey sauces brother informed me of I enjoyed it oh yeah you didn't think it was to spoilers that's spoilery yeah all right I'm not seeing here I'm done tweak down so maybe they took it down but when I was on tweak town earlier I swear to God I swear to god they're loading up a crypto miner I'm through their website oh I'm I'm I don't know what I got IND 8% I wouldn't all right let's move on get some nice alright AOL AOL Instant Messenger have you did you did use that back in the day for you we have to have used of course halo instead yeah I remember receiving like as a youngin as a youngin as the longing little chode I remember receiving like the AOL discs in the mail oh yeah right and then um we only had one get like 800 free hours per month or so yeah and we loaded up one of those things to it like my parents still use an AOL email well they should still be ok with their AOL email but but but a IM AOL Instant Messenger ok is is gone is kaput it's going ok it's going the way of the dodo okay it will be discontinued well who even uses that anymore that was all the rage back some people apparently still use it well if you guys can remember some some of the lingo and some of the information that goes back and forth and ya know wow so yeah able announced on Friday they're discontinuing a I am a loyal Instant Messenger one of the first widely used equations to the messaging apps some some classic this is on the Denver Post for some reason some classic dialog here ASL please age sex location age sex and location corn and that kind of we all know that's how you communicate with people on the internet that's why I say to people in real life to my meets male hey hey ASL what's it's exactly lizzi's I get myself perfectly normal and when people for social but yeah one of the first widely used chat programs launched in 97 yep 20 years that's been around over a hundred million users was where it peaked in that back in 2001 if you remember buddy lists you have your buddies buddy list you can set an away message such as people would know where you would do it what you were doing where you were well I'm jerking it BRB jerk even in it exactly in fact is predated like afk and okay yeah yeah for me I feel like I started afk and that was like in the world Warcraft days like mentally - yeah yep that's probably where that originated before that you had an away message that's true believe people information be able itself was fiercely protective of their dominance of the instant messaging market which they had fairly early on because AOL was very popular service for accessing the internet before people realize that you could just have a direct broadband connection and that AOL wasn't the Internet um but yeah they fended off many rivals including Microsoft by blocking their messaging platforms from communicating with alo users and my experience has led to the use of many third-party program and several different third-party programs that could communicate on different instant messaging program different instant messaging platforms and I believe I was trying to remember the name of the one that I used for a while but I feel like it was called Trinity but I don't think that's right I think it was it was try something try because it was like AOL and MSN and like one other were the main ones you could use to communicate with trillion trillion trillion nuclear music yes trillion and trench one two five three used not exactly trillion that's exactly what I think you have thank you I love how chat just knows what you're thinking yeah of course it's just like anytime you're like I don't know this thing chats like here's the thing because 815 minds are better than one absolutely show you Thank You Chad thanks Jeff for filling in that void in mind by memory alright y'all sleep at night the parents company oath which is the combination of AOL and Yahoo we've talked about on the show before I said the platform's demise is a casualty of the evolving way people communicate since there's a many of their options right now well yeah I am the program itself Excel will continue to function until December 15th after that users won't be able to mine and all data will be deleted Wow incidentally since you said your parents still have an AOL email address there's also people people with AI m.com email addresses this work those aren't going away so the email service if you happen to solve one of those here your emails not gonna disappear okay all right couple more stories Equifax Equifax equit Matt Becker freaking screwed up the asses is more like it we've talked about that fact situation on the show several different weeks last looked they basically got hacked they lost the information of every pretty much every single person in the United States who is used currency before ouch they have now announced that the 2.5 more million are also affected by this hack so if you weren't among the original 144 million or so maybe now there's a wonderful likelihood that you are it seems weird that a number like 2.5 million should seem like a drop in the bucket compared to what they've already screwed up with but um with this information now in the hands of the public who is of course applying a hefty amount of scrutiny to Equifax as well as the other credit reporting agencies and be like why what are these companies about and how do they work and how do they exist in everything well that's going on the IRS has awarded a multi-million dollar fraud prevention contracts to Equifax worth seven and a quarter million dollars what so this is a no-bid contract and just file this under like what why what what so they're giving them yes the IRS is giving them seven million dollars after all this happened yeah the shitshow gave in contract worth more than seven million dollars too cuz to verify taxpayer identities and help prevent fraud under a no-bid contract because well if everyone's getting screwed over by Equifax then maybe that's more work for the IRS in the end maybe I mean there's a trickle effect maybe like everybody its crew my echo back their credits though not maybe the numbers are now the IRS has like their hands full with a bunch of bitch work to kind of I don't know bounce back from this fiasco maybe the 7 million dollars is really to help themselves like they're like ok we'll give you all the support you need just to make our own lives easier cuz as far as I know the IRS has never done anything for anyone other than themselves so I can't imagine that they're actually just bailing out Equifax out of the kindness of their own heart this has to be something that is is affecting the IRS in a real way already that they're like okay was this like it's worth the money we already have everyone's money we've already taxed everyone for 2016 and never year prior we'll just give you this money to somehow fix it yourself maybe maybe it's like hiring a maid service you know it's like someone took a in the middle of your living room like well I'd rather just give you 7 million to clean it up and have me clean it myself type of thing I don't know I'm spitballing here listen to me we are Equifax unity will do as we bid you you have no other choice subjects all right uh yeah much there was not much commentator the main thing I want to point out when it comes to Equifax watch out for fraud there's gonna be a bunch of fraud going on this holiday season oh yeah watch out for tax return fraud there's gonna be a bunch of that going on come the first quarter of 2018 if you are at all worried about this which you should be if your American citizen potentially consider freezing your credit and definitely file your tax returns as early as you possibly can come 2018 ok everyone's really loving those facts by the way oh yeah all right so whoo let's move on we have a sponsor 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uploaded now and I can actually post it right now if I wanted to we're like what am I just posted like while we're live so how to talk time on halftime everywhere we're gonna start off with a discussion about the half the half h 500 p cooler masters newest case originally shown at Computex this year had a lot of hyper in it a lot of people who were excited about this case and i think a lot of it had to do with some of the design which looked pretty nice yeah I think so it had to do with the legacy of the half series because it's been around for quite a while and when it first came out there were quite a few variants of it that were very popular mm-hmm and you know it just it it this there were some pretty impressive looking videos screenshots thumbnails and everything that went up it went up a bit at Computex true now gamers Nexus good old Steve as well as of course snowflake like snowflake is the cat ah snowflakes the cat right he he did his review of this and he as you can see from the get-go here he's having a hard time you watch did you watch it I did you I thought it was very well done so Steve all right I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna critique Steve when have you ever tried to lift a case this way let's see have you ever seen how he's lifting have you ever gripped a case that way not really right have you no not necessarily but it was for theatric fact it was a direct effect and it's not like he doesn't have a point it certainly is true he also the opponents that it was exaggerated yes the front panel and top panel do come off way to ease more easily then you might expect but I've done a video on this case Kyla has done a video on this case it's not up quite yet but listen right now you're literally posting it right now right you're you're you're doing shade on my nose i close to your video right now just leave everyone go watch Cal's video right now it'll be up in the next two minutes watching asta partner give me two minutes okay so continue on so point being Steve's video came out this morning he was one of the early ones to have it up because apparently they changed the bargain over to 5:00 a.m. and so I didn't keep track of the time I was like I know what's on this day that's all I don't know I knew it's been very polarizing but yeah he was sure he was fairly critical of it due largely in part to the front and top panels right also too due to the well he yeah he critiqued the air flow which is that that of all of his critiques I think was the most notable because he did read some thermal testing on it which which I'm not much more much more in-depth than either of us went mm-hmm he also critique that there is a vertical GPU mounts which if you use a vertical GPU that has a taller PCB which many GPUs do have third-party designs that it conflicts potentially with the air cooler that might be positioned above it now I also wanted to point out that there's others who reviewed this as well OC three need net for example is one of them and OC 3d nets what are they they have lots of nice pictures and stuff like that I mean there's some cool features of the case some some covers for some of the cable management and that kind of thing some panels that go in the back here and whatnot OC 3d that give it their ultimate award really yes okay and in fact the video from OC 3d not met by a tiny Tom Logan was very complimentary I was not able to watch the entire thing 25 minutes that's actually relatively short for a TTL video but he went over the whole thing and he was really stoked on it so I think this just goes to show that different people have different experiences yeah and that it is important when you're looking at reviews of any given products especially when it's something like a case which might be a little bit more subjective then something like a CPU or it's just like how fast is this and run the rest and what it what it comes down to right you know it's important to take different varying viewpoints into account I think a lot of Steve's criticism was very valid sure but at the same time I built in this case and I had a bad a reasonably good time with it um same here you know there was there were some aspects of it that stood out to me is maybe that ideal right but there were a lot of design elements that that worked pretty well and I thought at least internally I mean it's built like a tank internally internally yeah as far as far as that goes right and it was an interesting idea that they had with with the dual cover system that they had going on for the the cable management powers oh right different different positions that people used with that you know that kind of thing right it did seem like a little bit challenging to pull all that stuff out but I don't know it's it's like I feel like there's the perspective that you look at a case from from like our perspective where it's like I'm probably gonna be pulling stuff out of that within a week regularly yeah versus somebody who's like I'm gonna build a system and it's gonna be there for a year and so like cleaning damage or something like that which which is a different kind of experience so right anyway um I definitely agree with Steve on the panel's being very loose and just not seeming secure at all um especially I think when it comes to us reviewers we're constantly moving around our hardware and that even goes for like full-blown systems right we build a system we're moving that computer that full-blown desktop from A to B we're moving in we're tweaking it like moving it ran from this desk to another and I felt like just picking up the half or the H 550 500 P just was difficult it was difficult because at least the the top panel or the front panel would pop and it didn't seem as secure as a lot of other cases I've handled in the past got it you got a grip at the base you got a grip the base but I mean you shouldn't have to just only have you shouldn't have to resort to only grabbing the case from one area I feel like when a case is said and done when you've built the system in the case and you wipe your hands clean and it's finished you should be able to just grip the case or grabbed it from any position and move it from A to B without any trouble but I felt like the panel's were unnecessarily loose for some reason that I could not find when they could have just used like st was saying the the very cheap alligator clips to just make them hold in a little bit more more securely because ultimately at the other day safety first kind of applies not just to your own mortality as a human but also to the hardware that you're using and building with so I felt like safety first applies to the system that I've just built as well and I could easily see someone like carrying the full system not being familiar with the with the the case the chassis itself and accidentally slipping off like the top panel the front panel and having the case you know the whole system take a tumble or whatever there are a lot of things that coolermaster did right with this case but I also feel like cases in the last 5-10 years have come so far because now when you like $100 a $100 case is not the same as a $100 case five years ago that's very true and I felt like with a hundred and fifty dollar MSRP with the H 550 H 550 p 500 500 500 P you can get pretty much eighty-five percent eighty to eighty-five percent of the features with a hundred dollar case as you can with the H 500 P nowadays so it kind of boils down to like is that extra are those extra few features worth it to you as a user to pay a $50 premium over this case and and again that's it's all gonna boil down to you as a user but I felt like just for the basics like the panel is that the very least should have been and like in my review as you guys will see if you watch it like that was the one thing that kind of hit on throughout the video Mike I still can't believe how loose these panels are just as I'm going about building it's great when you're building you need to take it off because it comes off like butter but at the same time there were just certain things that you would expect from a hundred and fifty dollar case here in 2017 that just didn't live up to the expectation I guess and it's also I feel like coolermaster kind of had it tough because there was so much hype around this case that oftentimes it's hard to live up to that hype and it's even more difficult when you're charging a pretty hefty premium for it so yeah they were saying like 140 I think it Computex it I feel like maybe the hype bumped the price up a little bit yeah maybe yeah but impossible age 500 P wasn't the only case that Coolermaster launches today actually they also have a master box MB 600 L which is a must much more reasonable $50 50 or 49 us master box MB 600 L features an acrylic side panel so unfortunately it's not a tempered glass we have been seeing some more reasonably priced like 6 th dollars tempered glass side panel featuring cases from like fan texts and stuff like that it's a standard now it's it's come standard but a burglar comes standard the case itself and there's actually some better images over here in the cooler master set fantex blue masters say itself but yeah it's got the free-form modular design so it's compatible with the other master box series upgrades and add-ons that are already available there's three different colors so you've got red accents blue accents or silver accents that come on the edges and it's got black with a brushed metal front panel there's actually a couple different versions this one here has a five-minute quarter inch bay on the top you can also get it without that five and a quarter inch bay so either way depending on whether or not you need that expendability it comes with a single hundred and twenty millimeter fan only and there's no exhaust on the top but you do have some radiator support up in the front 240 or 280 millimeter rads can fit in the model that comes with a quarter-inch Bay or you can go all the way up to three hundred and sixty millimeter three by 120 red on the front if you go with the version without that acrylic side panel and there you go looks pretty clean yeah pretty clean yeah basic I'm behind it 50 bucks yeah I mean I was I love that I love a solid $50 case because for a budget build you just be like you need to spend $50 on your case yeah here's here's a good case yeah it's that kind of thing so yeah come so far this one's looking pretty clean I would I would want to compare this as far as features and build quality to be 300 or be 300 or some or one of the ones like we said that that have the tempered glass side panel because again this one is acrylic it's a pretty clean looking acrylic piece but these are just images you know acrylic still you suffers from the scratch you'll easily scratch not quite as durable and that kind of thing but anyway that shiny that's the master bucks last thing for a hot never Hardware here this is actually from reddit's and 10 Gigabit Ethernet any of you guys interested in that for some high-speed transference between your home devices or whatever this reddits thread is more specifically about devices based on a quantity know a QC 107 controller which there are a couple of from Asus and gigabytes and if you actually go to these links Asus has the Asus XGC 100 C for $100 look at that that red heatsink on there that is bold red PCB there's $100 for that one or gigabyte if you want something that's a little more subdued the gigabyte GC a q-see 107 also a tengu bit Ethernet although apparently temporarily temporarily out of stock on Amazon for $100 so yeah make sure they normally I haven't even like prob I feel like prior to no it's been about 170 hundred eighty bucks if you just if you just need a 10 gig yeah Ethernet card to grant it to drop into a PCIe slot so a pretty decent drop in price significantly more affordable than they've been before of course and as pointed out in the article you got to have a switch or some other way of hang up that's ten gigabit connection to other devices in your home this isn't an antic article that was linked in the comments on that writing article this is actually all the way back to June but talking about some lower-cost 10 a 10 G based e switch is coming for five and eight port a quantity of solutions at 30 bucks per port but I thought that was a picture picture still a 30 bucks report for an 8 port switch you're still looking at well over $200 so that's you know not cheap but a lot cheaper than it used to be sure okay so there you go if anyone's interested in 10 Gigabit Ethernet which I believe as I'm doing some upgrades to my home yeah I'm probably gonna hook that up I do very frequently transfer video files that I capture out here in the garage back to the editing system back there and I'm speeding that up would definitely be useful and hey what 10 give it 10 Gigabit Ethernet you don't even need to transfer you can just use the Stuber it's on the other computer did you notice that the was the Maximus 6 extreme the X 299 board from Asus came with a 10 gigabit cord I think the ports on it are 10 10 you well not just on them is a virtual boarding card like a PCIe card or PC yeah I probably didn't look close enough yeah it's a 10g on it I was like oh yeah that's a nice bonus maybe able to use that for something hey I mean if you're gonna spend in 650 bucks on a motherboard then right having something like that and there is makes it a little bit more worth the money my laptop died I forget - oh alright let's move on our final segments is gonna be sword fight and we're gonna be talking about briefly a quick story which actually I discovered through level one text so Wendell and company over there watch where they have a weekly tech news show but they do their posts usually ever late Monday night so much more legitimate than Armitage yeah they they go over way more stuff than I do but cosmos magazine story basically has indicated the physicists have found that we are not alone living no we are not we're not living in a simulation no dammit there's been lots of speculation I'm like no maybe we're living in a simulation Elon Musk many others have been like well what if what if there's some really advanced civilization and they've developed some really advanced computer programs and that's all we are is computer programs and whatnot well a team of theoretical physicists from Oxford University in the United Kingdom has shown that life and reality cannot be merely simulus simulation simulation simulation simulations generated by a massive computer supercomputer you got this yes do you mind if I go to the bathroom real quick yeah go for a run okay so simply put just a fake I don't know the dogs are braking so simply put they set out to see whether it was possible to use a technique known as quantum Monte Carlo study I'm sorry known as quantum Monte Carlo to study the quantum Hall effect which is a phenomenon in physical systems that is exhibits strong magnetic fields at very low temperatures and manifests as energy currents that run across temperature gradients indicating an anomaly in the underlying space-time geometry I've lacked that for a second of those I was that talking just now more to the point that physicists the physicists in Vault their last names are wrinkled and compute okay easy breezy breezy they've shown though that attempts to use these quantum Monte Carlo systems to model systems is exhibiting these anomalies such as the quantum Hall effect will always become unworkable basically because the complexity of the assimilate simulation is increased exponentially with the number of product particles being simulated this is usually the type of subject matter that I like to embark upon discussing after I've had several drinks anyway I hope I've not been slurring my speech too much as I've discussed this but the point is if you want to simulate something like let's try to simulate what's going on right now what these scientists have discovered is that if you try to simulate it at the quantum mechanical level it becomes exponentially more difficult to actually simulate which means that a computer simulating that simulation would like there would never be enough computational power to actually run that simulate simulation because the simulation would become more and more complex so as to make it impossible for even the most powerful computer to simulate that because the reason for this being even something that's able to be done has been like oh well computers keep getting more and more powerful if computers keep getting more and more powerful than eventually of course computers will be powerful enough to simulate everything therefore what we are doing right now might be a simulation but of course these scientists have proven this wrong so Kyle this is of course now very well-versed with the subject matter because he's been listening to everything I've been saying you haven't run over that again real quick No you use some timer to break I'll run over it again real quick for you something up very well so these scientists ring Gill and Kaviri they've set out to the see whether it was possible to use a technique known as quantum Monte Carlo study to study the quantum Hall effect a phenomena a phenomenon and physical systems that exhibit strong main magnetic fields at very low temperatures and manifests as energy current that runs across the temperature gradients indicating an anomaly in the underlying space-time geometry okay know in English you need to speak my language here fall i-i-i gathered about five percent of that the other 95 percent is lost on me sorry I'm not smart I get it okay I understand also i understand all this completely you're so inept oh hey hey let me I'm gonna try to explain this because that at the physics I don't understand I don't pretend to understand that but I do I do feel like I understand the underlying principles here okay which is alright computers keep getting faster and faster okay which has allowed people to believe that as computers get faster and faster and we developed software that can run simulations on them eventually those the computers will be powerful enough the software will be complex enough the simulations will be in depth enough that what we are experiencing right now could potentially be a computer-generated simulate simulation that's being run on the supercomputers somewhere right okay that's I like Elon Musk has talked about this yeah he's worried like maybe we're all just run it maybe this is all just a simulation right what these scientists have discovered is that if you try to simulate reality down to the quantum mechanical level the complexity of the of what needs to be done by the computers in order to simulate it becomes exponentially more complex right which means it's impossible that what we are experiencing right now is a simulation it's like reality's too complex machine to process basically TLDR yeah okay that's all that's open it I couldn't so today behind that oh yeah I can understand that high level good good good that's all that's all we needed for me gotcha so with that being said with that being said we move on to our very very important straw poll topic which I've just posted in chat all right that we're gonna argue about right now which is now that we know that we're not leaving in a simulation and everything is terrifyingly real and happening right now what do we do do we have a few options here panic lose yourself to a life of hedonism and excess I just keep on T CB n PC beam was that taking care of business okay play a video game maybe the sims mmm buy sell or have another beer let's make these arguments brief yes I will have another beer house can argue to have it in the beer that's because that's the right answer to everything argue that that's the right answer I'm gonna pee too everything might get more beer here's the reason panicking does no one any good panicking has always led to more people acting more stupid and losing their lose yourself to a life of hedonism and excess well we all know how that goes I'm living it right now I am living in peer excess with all these riches and an inglorious glorious objects around me here in Paul's garage you can see as a human with literally every conceivable piece of computer hardware that III might my heart might desire I am still deep down they sad and lost so so we can skip on that one just right off the bat just keep on taking care of business that's that's a runner up that's the runner that's probably my second my second my second choice or they're playing video game okay that could be my third choice The Sims maybe not the Sims if you asked wifey sauces well that was one of her favorite games back in the day but you know I'd probably I'd probably consume myself with some doom maybe some counter-strike we'll see us go I don't know super smash brothers melee I don't know about the Sims though that's just the Sims you had me up until the Sims so let's skip on that bye-bye that just cost money sell that that is just that's much that's too much work like do you how much time and effort it takes nowadays to sell something at least on the internet or anywhere really you have to like there's a whole process you have to go through selling is a pain in the ass you might as well just donate it or give it away or destroy it if it's not usable clearly the only option here is have another beer and that is how I've voiced my case Paul perfect time it's not really by arguing my point but just talking on all the other one this is freaking bottle openers I'm gonna use this again oh okay is that the screwdriver really it's nice how effective isn't a chemical spirit alright thank you it works well I thank you so what would your choice be Paul I chose have another beer because I'm right I would choose lose yourself to the life of hedonism and excess which is basically first mistake my answer because let's be honest how many of us are really considering that seriously how much living in a simulation affects us in our lives I'm probably not that much maybe maybe you've dabbled in it maybe you've thought like maybe that's the thing that's kind of weird to think about but seriously honestly not that much effect so to me it just comes back to like well what do you do on an everyday daily basis what's your typical mo jerkin hedonism in excess season summary goods that's why we good at let's I would give a Las Vegas every yeah every January okay but there you go but it's let's see what you guys had to say about this one I'm sure Kyle argument Kyle had a little bit more time than I did I sure did but I had these I've been trash on talking trash in your answer have another beer yeah yeah oh you win I am so I am so convincing around when you're not here you're right when you're not here to argue like my game was the only second second choice I did come in third with hedonism in Texas there's only similar that's option 3 I did get a show in there that's true but I am in the top 50% all right so Jesse that told you that was sword fight it was epic as always yep and we're gonna move on to some Q some Q a human and some Johnson shoutouts yeah let's start off with the donation comments oh I fling poo for $5.00 and my kid is using an older 11 11 50 core i5 4690k is it okay to is okay to gain ot time or time or time to upgrade lot of times I think I think you're okay yeah no 46 it's a quad core 46 in any case solid processor I think you're good yeah it's your kids computer so it's not I mean GPU is really what you want to look at as long as you're not pushing for like some really high frame rate 1440 gameplay or anything like that for for 1080 and even some some basic 1440 stuff depending on the GPS yeah okay lined up with it yeah I think you're good me too okay $5 gentlemen El Jefe is drinking a glass of 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is more of an upgrade in gaming over an i-5 37 50k risin 5 or K be like Core i5 first off you can send this beer to either of our P o boxes yes they are in the direction of our videos on YouTube as far as your upgrading question I think risin 5 would give you more bang for the buck because you can probably get within 5 10 % of the gaming performance you would with cable a Core i5 and you would get SMT which accumulate core i5 does not have hyper threading so you would be limited to just the number of cores that you have no no extra threads there and additionally you get a little bit of upgrade path with Verizon on the a m4 platform you can potentially upgrade to a CPU with higher than more than what was that for 6 cores that you might get with Verizon 5 all right I guess it would be 6 core sorry 6 course you can get you know you can upgrade you have an upgrade path there whereas cable a core i5 not some unless you go to an i7 but that wouldn't be a massive upgrade either so I think just in the interest of money and upgradability upgradability upgradability yes well-spoken sir yeah Thank You Jeremiah Thank You Jeremiah Steve Finley from the 20 Canadian no comment there's the best addition we can ask for can hear you so much tongue breads myths brems myths sums for 100 Norwegian Crona Thank You Thomas I'm learning so many new currencies where's this more than one Tom well then there's Tom's multiple of you yeah okay personally the first cloning in America okay here in Norway coffee Lake will be available after December and he's planning upgrade to 80 600k for my 7600 okay because I need a new motherboard anyway but now I'm looking for Rison because of the upgrade path that's kind of what we're just discussing yeah and you can't go wrong there can't go wrong yep I agree thank you very much Tom's over the ten Dara if I sent you my old 77087 80 rocking a 1080 right now and paid for both return and send shipping and handling would you all sail Paul Kyle hero header a 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it's just a matter of familiarizing yourself with the platforms that are current and out and available right now and all of them launched in 2017 for what's available right now amphora AMD thread Ripper on AMD mainstream for Intel would be either skylake 1150 Ireland 51 or or or coffee like 1151 right or Intel high-end anyway yeah so you're in a good spot just just so ya watch videos watch our videos both me and Paul both Paul and I have some good past videos everything for first-time builders or people who haven't built in a while Fred rained $5.00 IRS was not wearing glasses when they popped the court yeah right that's why we love you supposedly was just one guy okay $5 do the extra PCI lanes from thread Ripper gives significantly better performance in an SLI configuration compared to something like the new 8700 K no not I don't think so not significantly you typically going from 8 to 16 lanes because like 87 3k you have 16 lanes PCIe so if you have two cards in SLI you're getting 8 to each one which is which is adequate which is what NVIDIA requires yeah there's a little bit of performance drop off when you're comparing 8 to 16 lanes PCI Express but there's also a trade-off there because you get better single core performance with an 87 or 2k and so even I haven't tested this directly there's probably gonna be some tests of this directly coming out fairly soon I haven't seen any of it right now as far as SLI performance goes right but um yeah there's there's trade-offs and both sides yeah nerd met for nerd magic 9 mmm you're so good at reading the leet-speak because she wrote it in once you're also good at reading ahead you two are my top 5 tech youtubers thank you so much metal check thank you yeah you're like from the name of from your name you're a female all the female audience members we can get quite a dearth of female viewers and our little circle here so thank you very much inferno dude five British pounds hey guys just wondering if motherboard ended up to s SD slots use CPU PCIe lanes or the motherboard chipset PC a lanes because the i7 8700 K only has 16 lanes depends on the motherboard yeah it's up to the motherboard manufacturers in Turin where those how those PC lanes are delegated for most of your allocated z3 7087 RK motherboard at least that I've seen most of the 16 PCIe lanes are gonna go to your PCI Express slots and most of your MDOT twos are gonna be running out from the ships off of the chipset yeah just cuz it that's kind of how Intel designed that platform you also get a little bit more functionality off the chipset because you can you can combine and I believe up to three devices for raid and a bootable thing but there are all limited by the bandwidth of the chipset so you don't necessarily get max peak performance out of them yeah next thing we've got something from Leeds that's a Korean Korean I find a thousand in five thousand Korean currency good morning I am your Korean fan Korean one green one I am your Korean fan I always enjoy watching thank you using google translator that's awesome beautiful it's a it always pleases us to know when we have international viewers watching our stuff makes us feel more connected together be South Korean one South Korean one we must clarify yes of course I have thanks to our show had you been in North Korea Thank You Korean fan thank you can we invent I visited Korea once South Korea it's fun was lovely just could have created we should go to create together ok let's talk to Samsung shoot a lot yeah andrás Amadeus live at $5 hey guys always liked both your videos question as people who build computers a lot how do you guys deal with windows licensing do you never license om much our most is the one-off builds that I do for testing and that kind of thing I just don't lie since it and when it's Windows time you can use it for indefinitely as long as you don't want to do personalization stuff right for any computer that I'm planning to use long term what I've been doing for the past year or two has been going to kinguin K ki ng UI n dotnet some of the only one and spending about 30 bucks in getting a license and it activates and it works and then and then you're fine I know there's a lot of hate around sites like that like resellers but I have never had a problem with them yeah as far as Windows 10 keys go legitimate I had never I think that's legitimate complaints when it comes to video games and developers and the stuff like that but when it comes to the Windows 10 keys they are keys that are global keys that are made for because you you know you can charge 100 bucks for Windows in the US yep you can't in a developing nation where people have way less money than a typical consumer in the United States so they still want to get Windows there so they have to sell it for less money so yeah I'd say I'd say the the main downfall that I have seen from ordering keys off of kinguin personally is that sometimes the key won't work initially if you're just trying to type it in through the through your system you exercise your phone in to the callin you did the callin and then wait I mean if that's totally fine though I mean you take a little bit longer but it's totally fine I've never had a key like straight up not work so FY Heather Hansen once again my wife $10 $10 hi Paul you get $10 since Kyle complained about my $5 super chat what well Kyle be thankful for your donations anymore thing love wifey and I like if she signs I'm like love nice nice good like good person good hearted Samaritan and so thoughtful nobody said thank you I've never done any wrong to you I'll see you later I will see you later tonight okay we got wife Fred Rance who actually has two donations buried what those scientists were the developers of simulation and just trying to make sure we're not figuring yet friggin no don't don't come up with those amazing theory don't say that lines like that Fred yeah what are you writing an HBO series ice contain this like written it's like cut and dry so it is don't print don't look don't spread your doubt some are saying that the sound is speaking now I really said if we can turn up the compressor compress maybe pressure level for maybe the volume has been fine this whole time we've just been getting louder cuz we've been drinking more possibilities five $100 if Kyle will shave Paul on next week's show now he did not specify what part of you I would be shaving so I feel like that's open to our interpretation unless you know of course he donated another hundred dollars to clarify what he meant by that but I would think so we got this in the bag man hundred dollars here's a question if I had to shave you though what part of you would you want shave the least my taint fortunately shaving your team probably just my ballsack joking face my wife can actually uh easiest question it she's good your wife I might rest but I don't think you'd want that to happen that would be awkward for those of you who have no context whatsoever my wife she's a licensed aesthetician she's just naturally good it moving people all hair anyway James Anderson $85 why doesn't anyone seem to use Intel Quick Sync with something like OBS performance hit is virtually none and you can use the IGP you you paid for I feel like that's generally because your graphics card can do a better job at it so it kind of negates the negates the need for something like quitting I've heard a lot of people who use it when they're on systems that don't have as much DP horsepower as much CPU horsepower don't have the discrete graphics option right there have been some tests that have shown Intel Quick Sync video quality to be not quite as good as doing CPU encoding or GPU encoding so that's that's that's certainly a consideration but yeah I like Quick Sync I like what it does I like I like software that takes advantage of it for I think at least from my situation I just I have enough CPU horsepower to be able to do it x86 no problem and yeah and you get a little bit better video quality for my understanding that way so that's that's that's why I made that decision I get makeup spectrum gaming and tech $5 planning on starting my channel soon love both your vids question you think the 90 gtx 980ti is still good just ask him because I have one yeah of course I mean it was the best video card at the time for the most part for gaming what a year and a half two years ago which means it's still gonna be a really good GPU I mean people who are even like a GTX 970 still are getting pretty decent frames in modern triple-a titles so I think you're just fine what you got but on that note please well there's one more spiky sound we skip $5 donation oh yes love the videos fellas prediction ETA and Volta also wifey sauce is cuter than you Kyle hashtag teammates are stating the obvious first note there's no no depth to that Etienne Volta I don't know like mid mid 20 team Nvidia probably would have launched a new GPU at 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