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Awesome Hardware #0125-A: WiFi Is Insecure Now, Google's Anti-Amazon Alliance

2017-10-17
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touch with me we will be drawing a new and different winner and Zach will have to say oh heck what if what what a pain in the neck what if we just started drawing winners by actually drawing a person's face and then whoever looks the most like the person we draw wins the giveaway Christ so it was very feasible totally totally can do that we have with today's hey today oh look at this this is awesome somehow this lines up now choose to cupcake hmm my goodness we started a little late today so apologies to you guys for that we were just yeah I got here late in the need to everything I looked over here to do my first segment which is insecurity and I saw security list as I go lower thirds even I didn't set them up or there but no choose the cupcake but this is actually no longer the cakes damnit I'm gonna assume the Kyle was hack dammit I'm gonna send the Kyle was hacked and didn't even know it that's what they did they changed it to choose the cupcake so there's some big crazy stuff going on with IT security stuff information security and we're actually starting off with maybe one that you might not have expected me to start off with but I have to like the vaguest idea of what information security actually is but I follow some people on Twitter who I think have a much better idea and several people mentioned that this actually is probably a bigger deal than the second story we're going to talk talk about about Wi-Fi being not secure anymore this is Infineon or basically there is a large company named Infineon and they make specific chips and there has been a flaw discovered in the code library the fatally undermined the security of millions and millions of encryption keys used in some of the highest stakes settings including national identity cards software and application signing and trusted platform modules protecting government and corporate headquarters Thank You Kyle for your ongoing efforts to to make the sound as perfect as it can possibly be bored anymore so experts use your own volume knobs at home if you need to yeah so this allows attackers to calculate the private portion of any vulnerable key using nothing more than the corresponding public portion of that key which is kind of a big deal the public portion is supposed to be something you can share and the private portrait portion is not so that causes a pretty significant problem the private key can then be used to decrypt sensitive data sneaked malicious code into digital is digitally signed software and bypassed protections that prevent accessing or tampering with stolen pcs so for instance you might have a very important government computer that's got very important sensitive information on it and they have these protocols that are in place for implementing information security they have actual standards and that's one of the big issues with this one of the frightening things is that there's two major internationally recognized security certification standards that the this breaks basically the flaw itself is five years old but it was only recently discovered it is located in code that complies with two internationally recognized security certification standards that are binding on many binding on many government's contractors and global companies this flaw was discovered by a Slovak and Czech researchers from the Masaryk University in the Czech Republic enigma bridge in Cambridge UK and kapha Scotty University in Italy and I apologize for my horrible pronunciation of any of those words I just said the code library was developed by German chip maker Infineon and has been generating wikis since 2012 at the latest might have been implemented earlier than that by certain institutions or governments the library runs on hardware Infineon sells in a wide range of cells to a wide range of manufacturers using Infineon smart chips and TPMS trusts are trusted platform modules if you have no idea what I'm talking about but you watch standard tech videos on PC hardware and that's the closest you might have gotten to this is when we'll keep going up your motherboards and there's a TPM headed and for most home users you like there's TPM header you don't need to care about that but a trusted platform module is an actual physical piece of hardware that plugs into that that basically makes the machine accessible and has valid keys to work with specific software and that kind of thing so it's a kaviraja dongle yeah they are in the same family they are the same family that is that's correct so this this has some major and far-reaching implications largely due to the fact that whereas the Wi-Fi thing affects a large number of people this is affecting some very important people in some very secure environments that weren't intended to have a vulnerability of this sort fortunately the people who discovered this aren't necessarily your your your your black hats or hackers or anything they're actually you know I had their names up here but I probably would've horribly missed pronounce them anyway so it's probably good that I apparently didn't copy them but the people who did research this I mentioned the universities that they come from they've put together research paper paper it's titled the return of coppersmiths attack practical factorization of widely used RSA RSA module a module a module will be presented a I'll move your things entered on November 2nd at the ACM conference on computer and communication security to give people time to change keys this paper describing the factorization method isn't being published until it's presented at the conference and then I have a secondary article here all these articles linked in description by the way first one was from ARS technica by Dan Gooden this one is from bleeping computer by Catalan sim ponnu but yeah a little bit more information here just kind of on on how the Infineon TPMS work and that kind of thing if you guys want a little bit more reading I am going to cut this off because I have several other things to talk about but operating system vendors are showing workarounds for this the effect that hardware is probably going to need to be just shit-canned and then moved to something else the types of D pm's that are affected oh and bear in mind here as very specifically it only affects Infineon TPMS so don't think that all TPMS are affected and yeah the ones that are affected are used in business laptops routers embedded and Internet of Things devices no one affected vendors include Acer Asus Fujitsu HP Lenovo LG Samsung Toshiba and other smaller chromebook vendors that's pretty wide array so moral of the story is that not all trusted platform modules should be trusted Nega I guess so like they should probably change the name now well I mean it could be the type of thing the table that taints people's understanding TPMS I feel like I feel like the people who work with TPMS aren't aren't the kinds to to suddenly start mistrusting all of them but this is it this is a pretty major security vulnerability that has been discovered and I thought we should leave the show off with it because for anyone who doesn't care about this stuff you'll care about anyone probably you know I want to I want to weed them out so they get borden all right next up a little story from ZDNet crack sure why not have you are you on crack yes no trick question crack is y5 ulnar ability that's became public knowledge yesterday yesterday Monday morning this is a bug that effectively breaks wpa2 wireless security and say what you will about wireless security in general wpa2 is kind of the the broadest feature that's used by the most people that actually is you know so amount of security against people just being able to look at everything that you're transmitting over a Wi-Fi network however wpa2 has now been cracked by crack capital K capital R capital a capital C cam which stands for kiri installation attack it is at hurt a fundamental flaw in the way Wi-Fi Protected access to or wpa2 works the issue is the system's 4 Way handshake that it's devices with a pre-shared password to join a network this was discovered by security researcher and academic matthew van hoof and threat actors who are taking advantage of this can leverage the vulnerability to decrypt traffic hijack connections perform man in the middle attacks and eve drops on cave drops leaves eavesdrop eve drops easy drop he was a drop like attorneys-general use drop on communication sent from a wpa2 enabled device us search which is the united states computer emergency readiness team has known of this book for some months but they informed vendors ahead of the public because now you're probably gonna have a bunch of you know of younger younger hackers so we're just getting into it who are like crack it sounds cool give me some of that and crack me some Wi-Fi but they didn't want to give the vendor it's a little bit of time to kind of get their affairs in order so you may have noticed the headline of zinnia net articles here's every patch for crack Wi-Fi vulnerability that is available right now now this is this is a big deal in various ways because it affects many different things now fortunately base level if you're using a Windows system of windows computer and you're keeping it up-to-date you're probably just fine Windows Microsoft has already issued a patch for this and an update however there are many many other companies that make many other different types of things not just you know computers with Windows operating systems that use wpa2 encryption in order to communicate over Wi-Fi and those are now vulnerable to this so yeah in general Windows and newer versions of iOS are unaffected but the bug can have a serious impact on Android 6.0 marshmallow and newer so Android users be aware this is devastating for Internet of Things devices because they're often already bad at security and they're often not routinely updated or might not have over-the-air update capabilities the list of vendors is in this article here again it's alphabetical there are many on there I was going to highlight just a few Apple has fixes for iOS Mac OS watch OS and TV OS that are in beta we'll be rolling it out in a software update in a few weeks Cisco Cisco wireless products are affected by these vulnerabilities some patches are available others are pending Google is aware of the issue and will be patching any effective devices in the coming weeks Google in this article actually seems to be among the lesser prepared for this but I'm not sure it might be because if Android is particularly vulnerable there's lots of different Android devices using lots of different versions so it might be a more difficult thing to fix via updates intel has released a security advisory listing updated Wi-Fi devices because there's lots of Intel Wi-Fi devices out there remember they they make Wi-Fi chips patches for effective chipsets as well as Intel active management technology Windows machines generally considered safe security patch has already been distributed and is available also through automatic updates again I have a secondary article here and check him in the description but yeah what I just said Microsoft is already patched windows against the crack Wi-Fi when we're building there's a 1-1 point for the mandatory Windows updates that we usually tend to hate on yeah I mean they seem to come at the most inconvenient time that yeah I guess on the plus side they do some things right yeah when they're protecting you from stuff like this it is good mm-hmm well cool so does this mean if I have a wireless heart like Wireless external hard drive that's wpa2 encrypted then that's probably one herbal yeah or like an ass that might be wpa2 encrypted yep all right duly noted everything needs updates turn everything it does seem like the type of thing that can be updated via like if they can push a firmware update to fix it when this first came out I saw lots of articles that were saying everyone's going to need new routers now like everyone has to get new routers that doesn't appear to be the case immediately but you know depending on what hardware you're using and how easy it is to updates and again whether the manufacturer whether it's a connected device that the manufacturer can push an update to or it's something that the user has to actively go and update themselves was going to make a big difference so you're gonna have lots of devices that aren't updated and that are vulnerable right despite the all of you who now are now aware of this and of course all of your friends you're going to tell about and freak him out he's Wi-Fi anymore don't do that but I mean that yeah and if you spread information like this to friends who might be less technically inclined part of that problem no you're doing a good thing you're doing a good day helping them part of the solution yes because yeah this is this is the type of thing that I wonder if this will lead to any like more like IRL theft because now people could technically hack into other people's surveillance secure like surveillance camera systems disable the cameras and then break in essentially without a clue left behind yeah it's interesting it's messed up some messed up stuff yikes yikes burn all the things alright one last story here in from the insecurity segment adobe has patched the end another flash zero-day exploit I feel like this is just I feel like I've said all of this before adobe flash its articles from security weak by the way but flash players security update was released on Monday by Adobe it patches is here zero day vulnerability that it's been exploited in targeted attacks already the security hole CVE - 2017 - 11 292 described as a critical type of confusion issue that could lead to remote code execution that's bad a number of vulnerabilities found in plant the articles pointing out because I fear of like flash vulnerabilities are just so common dark points at its actually decreased considerably considerably in past months there have only been four issues resolved in August and September that's only a rate of 2 - per month good job Adobe anyways no one uses flashing if Adobe's insecurity is yeah Adobe's insecurity in Flash's sorry Adobe Flash is insecurity in general is what has caused Adobe to make the decision to kill flash mmm good flash will no longer be hates flash anyway I'm starting in 220 fire by 2020 forever and it's it's already it already is disabled and doesn't work in many many browsers by default so usually you have to go and like tell it like no I want I want to do this the flash thing there's better software it doesn't feel pain but I happen to have to do that during sword fight and that sword fight during face-off yes all right let's move on to our quick sponsor spot yes indeed hey quick sponsor spot deep ones I think awesome hardware for the month of October in the his house yes Lara she blows oh yes captain 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them now sm x sm yeah whatever the sm unit i think it's one i think it's one grouping of cuda cores less than the 1080 but the latest rumor is that it won't be able to overclock it's gonna be locked the frame the the frequencies of like the jeep you know it might it'll probably do boost up to a certain point but then they'll cut off this article from pc games end comm is saying no and isn't gonna do that and there's a little bit of explanation as to why they think that it's the case they think it's mainly stuff that's being told manufacturers that is being misinterpreted but never mind all that let's assume that it is true the video yeah no let's assume that is true and therefore it is the subject of today's sword fight and we're gonna be arguing about it so if the rumored NVIDIA GTX 970 ti which is also remembered to be locked for overclocking if it is true should should this be left we have various answer answers that we can answer with here yes it's their GP and they can do what they want no GPUs are meant to be overclocked and this sets a dangerous precedent cuz like do you know of any completely unlocked they're like not overclockable GPUs most of them you can get in there yeah fiddle around I'm gonna actually don't know then use matter if you use afterburner I don't know any modern GPUs that don't allow you to overclock yeah strange I put a few other options in here just so people have some can mix it up a little bit boobs if they want yeah I get boobs done it I'm so so yeah pick your poison you know the chat of course we need your feedback here if you guys want to throw your votes out you'd be much obliged and I just really say I think cell has been posting it's just really as my live stream was set to 6 p.m. so everyone probably thinks I'm 14 minutes late why are you so late change the 7 ha thank you so thanks for muttering for his cell by the way thanks so he's doing a great job alright so Kyle what do you think I'm gonna go first I'm gonna say I'm gonna say yes I'm gonna say they're allowed to do it yes here's the deal I'm gonna combine my answer with another secondary answer here which is this cat seems like in videos bored right now they don't add they're not a whole lot to do you know they probably had something lined up to follow up with Vega but then Vega couldn't beat the 1080 T Isis like well I guess we can just keep on with the 1080 yeah it's doing a great job there is our flagship card with nothing that can really beat it and so they're like well what do you got going on for the rest of the year now that we have nothing else to do I don't know well you know they can't just do nothing they have to work they have to produce something you know economics and all that kind of stuff Jensen doesn't just sign off on the paychecks unless something's named produce is like all right let's you know reach into the old you know idea box and pull something out and this is what they came up with let's wedge something in there you know that's a higher higher value card that you know can may push some sales and you know they make a decent amount of money at that price range and everything around 400 bucks big challenge I mean to the like the Vega 56 right now because Vega 56 you can't even buy for the normal price so it's like does it need to be challenged probably not but they're like oh let's throw it out there and see what happens but as a results they took something that was sort of an in-between chip where you know obviously there's still details forthcoming on this we're not sure if he uses the same exact you know are these just 1080 GPUs that didn't quite cut you know make the cut so they're just shipping them out with one of the one of the s I mean it's disabled or whatever but yeah point is they need to be able to make a product that doesn't cannibalize there are other products it's probably was something that they weren't going to do anyway so yeah if they won't lock the frequency the lock the frequency because they can't have us 1070 that they sell for 400 bucks or whatever it's gonna be suddenly be able to overtake or even match performance in a lot of situations with the GTX 1080 because that costs $500 and they gotta be able to charge $500 for that no make that money no no no no no Paul no one's gonna pay over $400 for a GPU they can't even overclocked yes they will no they won't they're a bunch of suckers most most people who are paying over $400 for a GPU are gaming enthusiasts and gaming enthusiasts like to tinker and mess with their hardware poor choice of words on my part but this is something that is just expected now users have come to expect that if you're going to buy a premium GPU or even any GPU for that matter here in 2017 that you're gonna be able to play around with it and and push it to its absolute limits instead of having this locked ecosystem or locked environment where it just ships out of the box and you and it just and it just does nothing well it doesn't do nothing it does a lot it can game fine but you know what I mean it's it doesn't make any sense for them to lock the clock speeds because they're first off there are no other cards that do that and there's really no other reason why you would lock it other than for some you know anti user reason you know - maybe preserve the sales of their GTX 1080 because if you uh if you unlocked if you had an unlocked 1070 TI it could probably match or even outperform a GTX 1080 so at that point it doesn't seem like locking the GPU is servicing the user the end user at all it's really serving the company and that seems like a dishonest marketing ploy to me I rest my case the only thing you said that was accurate is that it's 2017 let's see let's see what the audience thought though I thought it was 2018 everyone's had sufficient time to submit their votes I bet boobs would take a look at results if you're watching this move all right we got boobs followed by the GTX 970 TI really doesn't even need to exist that was popular yeah no computers were meant to be overclocked in this sets a dangerous precedent pardon me it looks like that means Kyle wins whoo because I only had 15 percent of the vote with 32 you had I'm losing track of what's what's what here yeah you had 17 percent was 66 and I do want to point out art we were only split by well you had like double weight but by BA no I have eight percent what am I talking about percent you had 17 percent so all right but if you combine your two answers together you're right because you wanted percent I did to it therefore over 20% of therefore I win instead it works okay I should start adding boobs to every straw poll from now on all right I'm trying to trying to go through the show fairly quickly today again I was just kind of because we kind of started late and I don't want to don't I keep you all too long but we're moving on we're moving on to the next segments and that is news gtx 1070 TI ttys 1070 TV sorry that's I'm that would sell I am 5 sell very well it would according to our survey like get bring back the trend of like the screens you know images on the graphics cards or whatever but it's just like boobs it's sort of like the the dual fan design is just due to massive tits yeah you know would you have to do ones with dongs on it too though just like the gold to prevent it we need to keep it from being sexist I think so so if you had that and you wanted to do SLI would you go with quad bores with for boobs boobs boobs in the dong or or the double doll that's double dong that's gotta be I'd say I'd say our third certified question for quadruped the boobs yeah those that's probably I would do - yeah I don't know if dicks in my system I'm a bit it's a symbol of power mandolin DD I mean I have a question for you Paul are you uh are you a boob guy or you dick guy boobs I think go for the thick we all know the answer I'm just trying to I rest my case trying to be equal opportunity all right let's move on to some news here look brief a brief little tangent all right Google is parent aleni they're gonna put up a fight with Amazon Amazon of course taking over the world recently recently acquired Whole Foods now they have now they have all the foods because they have the whole the Whole Foods the Whole Foods this is actually from late last week on Thursday Target and Google announced they're expanding what was previously a years old delivery partner they're going from a small experiments that they were you doing in a handful of cities to the entire continental US this expansion will allow target to become a retail partner and Google's voice shopping initiative because they've been pushing that out a lot if you guys saw a lot of the pixel stuff pixel to you talking about pixel to honey or half a little bit little bit time up its to him Cass after yeah stay tuned for that pics stood for example comes with the point of those Google home speakers they sent me a thing cuz I ordered my pixel to listen things like a you get a speaker nighttime like I want you get I don't want your damn speaker yeah yeah I don't know smart speakers that's absolutely nothing so the smart speaker battle will be between Google home and the Amazon echo and products derived thereof I do like that I mean if you're gonna go for one of those the Amazon echo I think it's the dot the one you have to product right the one where you push it to ask it something yeah I don't know I just I've still not sold on that although my complain about this arrows but no my phone's doing that the always it's always listening to you your phone's always listen to you okay Google my films always listening to me I mean wants done like right now but it's still her but I just said wait does it do that for me yes it's always on you can turn it off okay Google huh it does so anyway as I sit here saying like I don't want that in my home it's listening to me all the time and realizing that my phone is doing that yes I'm horrible hypocrite but still turning my phone maybe I can minimize the number of devices that are recording everything I say all the time that might be kind of useful as a part of this seven weeks ago actually Walmart's also inked a similar deal with Google to offer hundreds of thousands of products so yeah the C's appears to be the the tying in of like major online presences Google and Amazon which were probably close to the top of that with established brick-and-mortar places that maybe have had a more difficult time kind of getting their their online sales up and off the ground I mean Target Walmart they they they they both have healthy online you know websites you can go buy stuff delivered in that kind of thing but I say they don't really hold a candle to Amazon but tying in of this might provide more of a competition or Amazon but apart from the whole voice commerce thing and being able to say ok Google I did it pick that up okay so and so I delay I delayed so wouldn't it wouldn't actually pick that up being able to say that go you know I want this thing from Target and then again it shows up at your door in a couple hours like that's that's kind of what they're what they're getting at here where I want this thing format from Walmart or whatever but beyond that they're also promising to create innovative digital experiences using other cutting-edge technologies to elevate target's strength and style areas such as home apparel and beauty experiences that digitally replicate the joy of shopping at a Target store to discover stylish and affordable products ok right there's a joyous experience do you enjoy it do you have a joy you have joy in your heart when you visit Target mmm yes very much so it makes me moist ok the whole experience I I leave I leave Target just so if I got a target I go to Target for a very specific thing or small group of things and I go and I get those things that I leave that's how I am anytime I leave the house I only leave the house to get like a specific thing or a list of things I'm on a mission to ever leave the house to do that and then think to yourself others these other things I could get to maybe while I'm not a dick no I'm only going to do this I will do nothing else I'm usually the opposite if I think like but cuz it but it's like it's like uber laziness cuz I'm like that way I only have to leave the house once if I can just get it all in your head then I never have to leave the house for like another two months I guess I'm thinking of more like non acheté essential stuff oh it's so essential I could do this while I'm at it or whatever but no every everything I get has to pass a test and the test is do I need it to live yeah it's good it's been tested yes so yeah clearly this is pointing towards augmented reality shopping which would be you go to a shopping place like your Walmart or Target and maybe you Aaron glasses on or something like that and as you're going around you know little probably little characters pop up and yeah and they offer you cigarettes drugs they're fun whatever they sell it target assume they still that kind of thing at Target or virtual reality shopping which is from the joy from the comfort of your own home you know put on your HTC vive and go walk around and pretend like you're shopping at Target or Walmart actually the verge of the VR Wal Mart experience as a shooter like it you know going post there at Walmart okay I'm just just saying I mean Walmart shoppers are already on pretty much they look like resident evil enemies because they're already good to go I mean just take actual images of real Walmart shoppers and you've got yourself a whole army of baddies yeah you get that in a virtual environment what do you call it the you'll need to be FG people of walmart or whatever this is yeah exactly go to that website if you dare real-life nightmares all right next up the FCC little story here on net neutrality following up so net neutrality we've discussed on the show we this this is one of those topics that sort of starts overlap into political territory I mean we've tried to avoid that when we can that we may have our own opinions but this is something that I've tried to ask people as much as Popples trip possible tress step away if you have political leanings and look at this from just the perspective of the Internet's and how the internet should work net neutrality is just the free exchange of the packets across the internet they should all be treated equally and that your net service providers shouldn't be able to say some packets go slower than others and that kind of thing right now net neutrality is enforced by the FCC because internet service providers are classified as common carriers under title two provisions which are some laws that are in back in the day this means that their utilities they're treated as utilities and utilities for example can't say Oh water costs more for this first of all they can for that's not a good at size you compress it but utilities have to provide equal service to all the people is what I'm saying um and they can't suddenly say that one type of thing that's being delivered by utility is worth more than the other that can't be well they're they're there to provide that to you so the FCC opened up a net neutrality feedback back in May it was yeah I was like late April May that they actually kick that out and there they claimed that there was a DDoS attack and distributed denial-of-service that basically their servers were inundated so they shut down there was a lot of criticism at this time because there was a piece that went up on youtube as well as on HBO by John Oliver in his last week tonight as part of his last week tonight specifically about net neutrality got a lot of views a lot of people were like I feel strongly about this and I want to go and make it comments the site went down and a lot of a lot of people like that seems like kind of suspicious timing right suddenly that goes down right at a time when lots of people are going in posting pro net neutrality comments spurred on by this thing so over time this was months ago again this is towards the beginning of this year there have been many attempts to get the FCC to provide more information about those DDoS attacks and like what exactly happens ready records basically show us show us the hitch you're getting right you know show us some evidence that this actually occurred yeah they have not given anybody anything there's but they've the tiniest little trickle of information that they've given when requests have come in so digging into the medicine yes so take it to the next step senator Brian Schatz who's a Democrat from Hawaii and representative Frank pallone so a senator and a rep who's a Democrat from New Jersey requested the investigation into this back in August by the US Government Accountability Office Gao Gao recently confirmed it's been accepted they're looking for evidence that the attacks actually happened they just want to say show us the evidence was because there should be evidence of this but from surface level was this obviously not just the site going down from the influx of traffic like was it depends very attractive there are there are both there there are there are two sides to this arguments yeah I would argue that most normal people are on the side of net neutrality is good and most people who are against net neutrality or very large companies who have can make a lot of money if net neutrality isn't around and those companies and the propaganda that they've put together to try to convince people otherwise yeah so yeah I mean there's there's obviously arguments on both sides there's reasons why they're you know maybe maybe it was a DDoS attack maybe maybe that did actually happened but all they want to say is show us the evidence that this actually happened yeah if it's all true and it really was DDoS that that if they really weren't ddosed and it should be very easy for them to pull them they should be able to prove it and hopefully they are able to either do that or if it actually didn't happen and there was some something surreptitious going on then you know maybe hopefully we'll find out yeah there were more than 22 million comments filed on net neutrality while it was open and it was extended after that due to all the comments but most of them were actually generated by form letter campaigns or were spam since all these are open to the public all the comments a lot of people have gone in and basically gone through and pursed them and yeah a lot of them are form our form letters but that that can a form letter could be a bot going in and submitting it what's a form letter it's just it's just it's the same text oh it's like all of these submissions have the exact same text that was written right so yeah form letter but that could also be people copying and pasting stuff because some people like oh I feel this you know I want to go in submit a comment about net neutrality but I don't know how to present myself exactly well here's the you know the kind of umbrella determinate term I want you to use and that kind of thing sure so um but there's an analysis at least the Ars Technica references that was sourced by a specific internet service providers and that found that 98.5 percent of the unique comments when you take out any of the form letter ones 98.5 percent of them support existing net neutrality rules so it's very overwhelming and we've been fairly obvious with how we stand on that subject but you know at the end of the day the FCC Ajit PI is going to look at the feedback and then they're gonna say based on this feedback we have decided to do this and it's not really something that people go and vote on or that kind of thing it's going to be their decision how people respond to what they decide to do is going to be significant and it's also going to be significant if if really ninety-eight percent of people say we want net neutrality to be protected and they still don't change it then you know that's a big deal my people will hopefully be right but it'll be riots in the streets yeah but again there's no limit of things to be pissed off about these days so let's move up and get back to tech HP Envy the HP Envy x-360 even more specifically the HP Envy x-360 15 - BQ 1:01 na is officially the first notebook with a Zen apu we've been interested in Zen ApS a the official integration of Zen architecture as has been featured in Rison CPUs and Federer for CPUs actually integrated with Vega GPU architecture and the one being used in this specific notebook by HP is the risin 5 2500 you it's a quad core with 2 gigahertz base frequency up to 3 gigahertz first frequency I notice they're calling that first frequency or not music or to me that says burst frequency we breed for brief periods of time if you're doing it for too long then it's gonna generate too much heat so right but still you know I'll be interested to see how that actually performs the envy x-360 also has a single stack of eight gig ddr4 2400 ram certain 56 gig nvme SSD and a full HD touch enabled display the graphics chip that is integrated the graphics chip has been confirmed to be integrated as part of the APU HP has confirmed that its features Vega mobile so they are making a vague a mobile possibly Vega eight series or Vega 10 series according to the article and the power consumption of this full system should not exceed 45 watts so that's you know I guess you could maybe assume then that there might be an APU in this series that has a 45 watt TDP or less mmm if that's the entire system we're also not totally sure at this point if there's gonna be you know if there's gonna be desktop AP use it slot into a and for that are kind of akin to the ones that are actually you know BGA made for mobile or if there's gonna be crossovers and those lineups are if they're gonna make it it's a completely separate lineup for the desktop ap use we shall see but we know they're making that stuff might be used because ever since risin seven first launched back at the beginning of the turns beanie this year they've had and four motherboards with video outs on them so yeah yeah finally finally gets used the amp or video that's not too up there still virgins not too uh is recognizing that people don't like the color of their existing fans you don't say the color of their existing fans which I have dubbed as dried blood and putty is what I call it you right that's least appetizing description yeah for the least appetizing color but fortunately Noctua is now they're expanding their lineup with chrome expands crow max that's a hazing not just fans but also cables and covers for some of their heat sinks this is all lies oh okay so there's a Tom's Hardware article that has a few pictures and whatnot pop-up video a music video there's also this little guy which is but they already have black fans this is a 30 already has black fans they do the industrial series but these these are these are fancy fancier Micromax line they are basically reproductions of their like nff 12 and they're popular fans in this color but also with color accents and swappable corner pieces neck okay so they're hopping on the trendy bandwagon they are they have these little 30 centimeter color matched extent my cables so you get some color accents in your Y cables these little guys that pop on there they're aluminum they're available in black and whites they're made so that you of course could just use them in black and white or you can paint them probably the white would be easier to paint them black I would guess depending on what color you're going for and then they have a variety of inserts so this one has a red insert that you can see right there this is just an example of their fans 120 millimeter and 140 millimeter sizes 12 volt a series PWM fans 94 CFM airflow for the 120 140 CFM CFM airflow for the 140 and there's the entire line up of the cover what cooler does that good that cover so the different colors that will fit on the Nhu 12s the NHD 15 and the NHD 15s ok their most popular the fans are the black swap fans they come with swappable anti-vibration pads available in red blue green yellow white and black yay that's a pretty wide wide range of included accessories yeah usually I think it's already sold individually and stuff but yeah you know like an FF 12 is still gonna cost it 23 bucks a 15 a 14 still 25 27 so you know there's still expensive fans but earning Tanakh - I saw them specifically reply to a tweet they're the exact same they they don't function any less different or anything like that right even according to the article and actually there's enough to a page on this to even according to the article these aluminum covers that they're putting on the heatsinks themselves make it better what did the cooling why it also helps direct airflow through the coolers aluminum fins allowing the cooler to dissipate heat in a more efficient manner I don't know that's marketing be Esther or what gamers Nexus will probably test it I'm not exactly sure how that works I don't know yeah I mean it's just I don't know it just contains the air path more stuff like you don't have the gap you sing on the sides of the aluminum fins right it's like doesn't make much of a difference cool marketing marketing not to the fans now available with color color matchy color so this is really just an aesthetic or a cosmetic update to the existing fans that's existing things yeah but I mean since it has some of the most well-respected and functional fans nice that they can do that too all right speaking of fans Corsair has also announced fans goodness who cares about those crappy Noctua fans with their solid colors still lack RGB Corsair has announced their l-louise RGB LED fans oh yeah these actually look really nice they actually do look I was gonna buy 12 of these yesterday really but then the total came out to be like $500 what 412 fans yes the combo I was getting the combo so three of the 120 millimeter fans that come in a pack with the lighting node Pro yeah is like a hundred and twenty dollars a three fan pack is one hundred and twenty dollars three fan pack with the lighting node Pro is awesome it's like 110 120 about twenty bucks so I added in like two of those two of those because I needed you know for I've got like a ton of radiators in the end two elite build that in planning plus the 140 s I saw on new egg came in packs of two for like 60 to 65 bucks or something it looks so good that's why I was like Add to Cart Add to Cart as much check it by pump the brakes cow pump the brake you were not about to spend $500 on fans of course there probably won't give me any because I'm building in advance thanks guys right one hundred and twenty dollars I wasn't you man any fan threats pensive they look nice but they're pricey Wow of course there are the 140s yeah the one port no oh my god so 144 single that one right there forty bucks for one bucks a single pack I want to show their video though cuz who cares what they look like just look at the video just look how pretty they are yeah so these fans have two sets of LEDs they've got a ring around the outside and a ring around the inside 12 RGB LED loop on the outer edge for RGB LEDs in the center plug or whatever so as you can see them demonstrating here bunch of cool effects of the LEDs chasing you around one way or the other and it's tied in with link system and all that stuff yeah with the lighting node Pro that's included which does so does lighting node Pro come even if you buy a single fan is that why the single fans important no I don't think so because that's lighting no pro right there right it's just the whole unit that you plug in it into and then a USB connection to the motherboard link and stuff no I think just a single fan comes with just the fan for 40 bucks it's pretty crazy so yeah oh look the fan stop mode capable as well that's that's useful but yeah available like I said three by one twenty millimeter kit if you have spent $120 it's just insane to buy one forty or individually PWM fans 60 to 1300 or 1500 rpm depending on the model that you get and some pretty cool color effects it's sad because they look so nice yeah I can't justify spending that much on family yeah that's hopefully maybe a little will get a sale on Black Friday or something like that yeah usually there's a brand new stuff they usually start high and they they usually work in a bit of pricing wiggle room yeah they can make sales in the future but yeah we shall see all right let us move on and to finish off actually my half of the show with some donation comments thanks to all you guys who have donated via the YouTube yes thank you Asian button El Jefe reviews $5 let's get down to brass tacks what did you guys favorite cartoons or anime from 80s or 90s important questions Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles that was a good one I love teenage me yeah that's me geez favorite cartoon or anime I watched a lot of Dragon Ball Z growing up Gundam Wing tsunami anything pretty much on Toonami except after like Gundam Wing it would go Dragon Ball Z to Nami or a Gundam Wing or go dragon ball z gundam wing and then I think like right after that with Sailor Moon and that's when I turn it off wow it's crazy that the the influx of like anime and stuff like that since since I was a kid cuz like yeah it wasn't really around when like we have younger when I was growing up with Disney Afternoon it was the afternoon never heard of it it was all you know Disney cartoons of Loras faster time old like ducktales and ducktales was pretty legit Darkwing Duck and yeah Darkwing Duck was good to all those Animaniacs sorry and I do I did really like Animaniacs the the country song where he lists off all the countries oh yeah it did cept it doesn't count anymore cuz too many of them have changed alright Scottdale back six dollars and 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comparison but something like like Lewis and Clark I don't know I feel I feel like going back to the time when like frontier like unexplored areas I know that's still a thing now but back when there was a lot of a lot less of that going on just to be someone who like experienced going somewhere where see and even that's you're eccentric because you know that's only when white people they were already Indians era alright as you were mouthing Louis Lewis and Clark Louie CK I like at the same time and the exact same time I was like losing and okay oh my god he took the same thing I did but then you said Lewis and Clark no but it would be cool to be someone that actually like watch and respect and enjoy the content they that they make Marco Polo Marco Polo yeah right I would love to meet the guy who invented the famous pool game that I played in my childhood just to shake his hand be like you've done great things for our nation all right Fred rants 50 freakin dollars Thank You Fred 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means important typically the trade-off between those it's like you know you put something flat and solid there it's gonna block some of the sound it's gonna be quieter yeah might look nicer may be mesh you're gonna get more sound but gonna have better air flow so yeah yeah mesh front case is a pretty good option and I don't know what besides a mesh if I that stands out to me with that much air flow I feel like I I don't see as many cases as I used to because I keep telling people not to send me cases I don't have room right all the cases but I'm alright I hope that was vaguely helpful for you Robert simply aaron 91 $5 help I want to build replace my PC but whenever I plan a build something new is always announced when it's the best time of year to buy PC parts Aaron I would say no well yeah right now there's some extraneous things that are causing it to be crappy in some areas to buy a PC I did a video on that earlier today but actually right around Black Friday timeframe there's a lot of holiday sales you can get some some good deals so it's stuff like good time to shop that just just be aware that there's some stuff that's kind of egregiously overpriced and try not to try to get that stuff their ethics card and memory um AMD any AMD graphics cards that are above 100 ish dollars like your rx for 80s Rx for 70s and 570s are all 50 bucks plus more expensive than they should be 5 80s or 100 bucks plus more expensive than they should be they get 56 and 64 50 to 100 plus bucks more expensive than they should be you can get you can get gtx 1060 now for right around MSRP you're still gonna be paying like 210 220 for a 3 gig and maybe 260 ish to 70 ish for a 6 gig so that only sucks because it's like those cards have been out for over a year now and there's no price drops in fact this increases but yeah yeah yeah I hope that sometimes but yeah it's but it's it's a it's a it's a thing that you just kind of have to learn to accept at a certain point is that you whenever you buy a new PC or invest in new parts there's gonna be new better stuff that comes out that's faster right around this eventually cheaper it's gonna happen so you just kind of have to accept that at some point move on just dive in alright des Jones $10 oh speaking of which hey guys I saw Paul's video really about it isn't good to build the Kami PC right now should I halt my savings for a starter for 1920 X and/or 1600 X build possibly until 2018 or do it before year-end stuff well des you got it you got to pay attention to some of the specifics in that video and the specific things I was complaining about I didn't really come back at the end and say there's things that I shouldn't have complained about but there are positive things and rise and launch has been a really good one I have no problem recommending rise and CPUs right now there's even some Intel CPUs that I think makes sense depending on your budget but yeah if you're thinking about investing in thread Ripper or 1600 X haven't have no worries have no fears they're those those platforms those CPUs aren't really affected by those issues I was discussing in that video your graphics card choice might be but if you're thinking of like its gtx 1070 for example you can get those for 400 bucks which is again slightly more than the MSRP heard over at lunch but much more reasonable than the markups that you got to pay for the AMD card so there are options out there for right now just you gotta gotta kind of watch up for this waiver that's over wait for like Black Friday Cyber Monday you'll find some good deals there a great time to buy a PC is especially hammer slap five bucks Paul your review of the msi ge62 Apache revealed three unadvertised i've got two slots do any new models have them why don't reviewers really check for them I don't know that's one of the things I really like to do when I review a notebook I don't review notebooks that often but I like to review ones that I can physically remove and look 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