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Awesome Hardware #0126-B: VROC Ain't Dead, AMD's Mining Drivers, and the FALL FESTIVAL

2017-10-24
because we still not like didn't know much Mary you should be should be live any moment now whoo hello everyone how's it going hope you guys are doing well we are live this is awesome hardware and this is a live show we talk about technology mostly computer parts we also drink a few beers sometimes we say a few curse words so bear that in mind if you happen to it defeats the purpose of the disclaimer if you immediately know it gets them prepared it gets them even way it keeps them aware exactly exactly our yep anyway though yeah so let's ease her easily offended as Cal has already been trying to push things as hard as he can absolutely anyway this is episode number 126 every Tuesday evening we stream this live show to twitch.tv slash awesome hardware and then we stream two halves half a has already been streamed to Kyle's channel which is called bit wit - that is in the description but yeah that's why we've already had some drinking done we've already been talking about stuff for a 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do that yet we can't do that what why not okay it before we get any beer of course we were drinking some Sam Adams Oktoberfest yes special beer it is October partying smooth Sam Adams does a quite decent doctor professed brew so that's what I got indeed and I'm just pouring this out here so we can quickly say Cheers cheers to all of you there we go for watching cheers Cheers it's all downhill from here thank you so much for being here everyone let's start with the AMD news AM D just today has released their Radeon software crimson re-live edition 17.10.2011 AMD graphics card or you might just be interested in the news of it which is that the driver is specifically aimed at some games that have just recently launched destiny 2 came out today for the PC some people have been playing it Demitri doesn't like it it's just the game itself yeah he doesn't like it oh really yeah - I'm tweet about it he was like that's a toss up game fine it's not pretty enough but yeah the game itself has been doing quite well I believe it is the best-selling game of 2017 so far and already launched on consoles just now launched on PC but um beyond destiny - this excuse me this actual software update is also meant for a few other games I'm pressing the wrong button Assassin's Creed origins which will launch on October 27th and just three days Wolfenstein - the new Colossus launches also on the 27th also in three days - my three days first-timers there - I think I think you said three okay I'm at surgery don't don't don't trust both temps also some support for the windows 10 fall creators update so people who have AMD graphics cards you should probably jump on this and get you know but beyond that there's of course lots of ongoing controversy and discussion over the impact of cryptocurrency mining specifically cryptocurrency mining on GPUs and how it's impacted the overall marketplace I did a video on this roughly a week ago now which is doing insanely well people keep watching and I'm just saying all I was doing sanely while all I was doing was complaining about stuff but okay alright complain yes Scott is a viral all right my real element I'll try to think of some more things to complain about that people want to watch Sam's gonna start bitching everyone but the gold but now my main point there was that there's lots of cool stuff that's come out this year and be getting back in the game radians new launches as they get everything there's some exciting launches but the actual upshot for people is that it's still very expensive in certain areas to buy into getting a gaming PC mostly with graphics cards and also memory right now but if the mining thing is a problem is it or is it not being encouraged by the GPU manufacturers themselves we've talked a little bit about AMD launching some mining support with their Vega drivers Vega at 56 and Vega 64 very close to the launch of those cards which seemed slightly disingenuous since they were talking about like oh we want to get these cards into the hands of gamers and stuff like that like look AMD if you guys want to sell the miners that's fine you're you're making a product you're selling it and making a profit but don't pretend you're doing one thing and actually do another yeah because this update also provides driver support for up to 12 I'm sorry Windows 10 configurations of up to 12 compute focused GPUs and GPU workload toggle so the GP work little Toggl will basically switch the graphics card between em modes at optimize for gaming versus a mode that's optimized for GPU can cute stuff now when it comes to cryptocurrency mining in general often crypto miners will be already using custom v biases and even custom and custom drivers for example so it's hard to say how much of an impact this is actually going to have but for people who aren't as in-depth into it for enabling that type of stuff and if you are mining on graphics cards that are supported by this then it will probably help out your output if you're interested this is going to help select rx 500 or X 400 r9 390 r9 380 r9 290 + r9 285 cards specifically with well GPU workload stuff but that basically equates the GPU mining so AMD is continuing to support mining on the graphics cards and you can look at it two ways you can say their business they're selling their product to people who want to buy it or you can say they're supposed to be making gaming graphics cards so them supporting other things besides gaming is stupid it just seems funny that it just feels like yesterday when we were at that the AMD rx Vega press event and they were just and they were like we have these Radeon packs we have this we devised this amazing initiative to to really block the GPU miners to open up our inventory for for diehard gamers who just want to play games and middle fingers up to the miners with all these Radeon packs and now we're here what feels like a couple weeks later and and let's do months what feels like a couple of weeks but yes but still even if it's a couple months later it just feels kind of like they might be backtracking on their initial promises or something but yes but if nothing else it's more proof to add that the GP manufacturers are very well aware that a significant amount of their products is being bought by cryptocurrency miners and that that is a customer that they are willing to support to some degree yeah and we'll see if they're able to meet the demands because like that it's it's it's it's a decision to make when you're doing manufacturing is like how much of any given product should we produce and they typically will reign in production if demand isn't there because you don't want to over produce you don't want to over saturate the market with your product and lower the price at the same time you don't want to over invest in the amount of money that you're putting into the production process as far as paying the workers and all that kind of things so if this really is just such a thing where it's like all right we see that Bitcoin mining is kind of here to stay yeah and the ASIC resistance stuff like aetherium that kind of thing where it's like you can't really build an ASIC to just do it because it's really just kind of more that's just x86 processing it's it's not it's not something that you can make a very simple simple associate or something like that to handle yeah so but if they're able to ramp up their production to meet than the demand of this yeah they can maintain prices and everyone's happy so hopefully that's what we're gonna see is that really what they're gonna be doing is just being like alright there's lots of people want these let's ramp up production and then you know maybe in a few months it'll I mean we have started to see some evening out of prices yeah we haven't seen drops in prices like you'd expect to see after a year of a product being out like a GTX 1060 sure but you have at least seen some $300 rx5 80s for example are starting to become a little bit more available that kind of thing but anyway let's move on all righty new egg what do we get full disclosure Kyle and I both are former new egg employees although we both left as of that 2014 2015 2015 I guess 2014 we left formally 2015 we're still doing contract work yeah end of a 14 yeah yes anyway a Korean bank or a group of Korean banks has sued at nuoc they're alleging that's new egg has aided in a massive fraud which is and this is a fun picture of it one of those mirror things person looks familiar never ever mind though never yeah I know moving on anyway new egg and ASI are the two companies that are being sued this is a federal court in Los Angeles by several major Korean banks the industrial Bank of Korea the Nonghyup Bank cab Hana bank and Kookmin Bank are all alleging that new egg and ASI corporation pursued fraudulent deals with manyu --all with the company called Manuel and Manuel is a Korean electronics manufacturer that sold home theater pcs as well as cheap robotic vacuum cleaners as well as other products as well from my understanding in 2015 Manuel's CEO at that time Park Hong Suk was convicted by the Seoul Central District Court of fraud and has been sentenced to 23 years in prison and was also ordered to forfeit more than 31 million dollars of his ill-gotten gains the banks loaned large sums of money the banks involved in the suit loan large sums of money to Manuel and they're now targeting American companies that they believe aided in Monte Wells fraud the lawsuit was first reported by the Los Angeles Times on Friday it accuses new egg and ASI two American retailers it sold new a that sold manual products of issuing think sales orders according to the civil complaints manual purported to charge ASI and Newegg between 2530 dollars and two thousand nine hundred and eighty dollars twenty five hundred to three thousand dollars per HTPC unit from manual when in reality these HTTP sees were only worth about eight dollars per units Wow so the idea here is that they used the new egg sales orders for these products with the inflated prices in order to prove that there were pending sales in order to obtain loans from these banks that were ended up being fraudulent it makes sense that's what's going on you know and it's something from what I've been reading of a big deal if it actually turns out to be true cuz they're they're under the impression like banks won't know how much this htpc is worth we can easily say that's the technology that's built in it's a three thousand dollar unit it's like no guys just made shy it's running on an atom processor cost you eight bucks that type of thing give us a loan very much okay and so cannellini and Lee neon perhaps the tech in tech illiteracy of the people who sure her run the numbers perhaps rate that kind of thing but one of the guys who worked at the bank probably watches our videos maybe that's that's what I that's what or our ARS Technica's for this article Kim's from by the way did talk to Matt Streatham you ever met merrimette was Matt Matt was legal he's legal counsel for knew a key he was there when I was there so I do I have met Matt hi Matt I doubt you're watching but if you are my man if I've met you I'm a they've denied any wrongdoing Nick prides itself on conducting business fairly ethically and honestly the company vehemently denies the allegations in the complaint filed last week Ewing intends to vigorously defend itself against those unfounded charges similarly crystal yuan of ASI his legal department told Eris Technica that their company stopped doing business with body well several years ago yes but anyway this is ongoing it is yeah so they've been sued and we'll we'll hopefully follow up with you guys later on if we find out what actually happens with all that the inside scoop cool yeah next up it intell's V rock is it dead it's not dead it's not dead according to PC world and Gordon Tong it's it's not dead it's just trapped in a hardware bundle there's been a lot of confusion questions and whatnot about V Rock the functionality of e rock has been pretty well understood for a while now it is a dongle or an add-on it's a physical Hardware piece that you plug in to an X 299 motherboard that will enable additional raid configurations specifically the rock stands for virtual raid on CPU and this will allow you to for example set up a raid array with say direct PCI Express gen3 connections to the CPU and have it be a bootable array whereas prior to now you'd have to set up something like that through the chipset which might be limited and bandwidth and that kind of thing right so it's a cool function it's something that a lot of people have been interested in it's something that AMD has sort of made more widely available to people just recently as well Red River with the threat of her platform although there's some weird functional quirks with that implementation as well but anyway on the Intel side of it originally there was speculation that this was these little dongles we're gonna cost like 500 bucks each or whatever but now it seems like Intel is going to be offering them to people and hardware bundles weight with motherboards like yeah paired with mobos so V Rockies will be available and only two ways bundled with new X 299 motherboards okay or bundled with Intel SSDs okay that's how you get it that's a shark is still only compatible with Intel nvme SSDs correct that it also appears to be something that they're going forward with as well according to this article Intel says it's leaving it up to board and system vendors to decide what to do for those who have already purchased X to 19mm other words and systems right but yeah it's it's it's still kind of a weird situation it's still not fully like yeah I'm still not fully grasping it but I guess for now if you were trying to get your hands on a V rocky you might be able to buy it in a bundle with a motherboard or in a bundle within until SSD interesting yeah at Computex they were talking about potential different vrock prices for the different different keys that might enable raid 0 or raid 1 or 8 v costing 100 to 150 dollars and a lot of actual you afi's do have updates that will show you v rock functions but they won't actually work unless the key is plugged in so that's yeah just to continuing kind of weird situation with that and will hopefully bring you guys more info on that seems like another no more once we actually see a bundle with it a bit with it advertised as part of it like here like it feels like definitely like another one of those responses to to AMD I mean after AMD you know allowed support for bootable nvme on Red River for pretty much for free because I can't imagine that all those rumors of the dongles being $500 just came out of literally nowhere I feel like maybe somebody do something and that was perhaps Intel's original plan until AMD was like I will give it to you for free as AMD tends to do to some degree and then that's what maybe Intel is like alright maybe we'll just start bundling it with whatever vrock supported boards there are just a competitive yeah so this might open like this might also be a follow up you know in some might have been waiting for AMD to launch the third Ripper thing and to see how how well that took off and kind of really base their response on that they're also having to deal with the potential overlap of this with the functionality of some of their higher and server and enterprise stuff which is very expensive and they don't want to offer an equivalent solution forward much less since this is kind of an extra nine nines more of a consumer platform so yeah hopefully we'll see more information soon or maybe actually see some products for sale let's say like oh like how much more if you're gonna buy an Intel 750 series 1.2 terabyte hard drive or SSD for X dollars whatever it costs right now that plus a vrock key how much would that cost right you know yeah yeah what's that can be right so um yeah and the article says say although we have seen some testing like Jabbar did some testing that I believe seem to indicate that you might be able to do other SSDs with vrock the article says that until this confirmed that they're still doing intel SSD so me which also is very limiting so yeah makes it less an arresting feature from the get-go but let's move on okay net neutrality we've been trying to kind of keep you guys slightly up to date with new this is from Techdirt com the FCC has accepted a bunch of comments on net neutrality and they are they have already planned to basically published their decision for what to do next on day before Thanksgiving which probably the even probably in the evening on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving which is a very popular time to try to bury news because then you have Thanksgiving in a long weekend and everything and stuff stuff goes away a little bit more so apparently not anymore now that all these article all these journalists are catching on and releasing articles about how the FCC is trying to be sneaky AF well we've been trying to talk to people about this because like net neutrality as a general concept is something that everyone supports now I guess I can't say everyone everyone but like the majority of people split people if you explain it as a concept look I have a connection to the Internet's there's lots of different locations on the Internet where I might want to access data from or access websites from wherever whichever one of those I'm accessing that data should be provided to me in the same fashion from one site to the other because the people have nothing to gain from net neutrality going away there's a zero to gain it's a very simple concept and it's something that everyone supports now only the corporation discussion that you have now that's going on right now is like well the FCC right now they've classified Internet service providers as common carriers under title two of the titles of common carriers which means that they can be regulated as utilities which gives the FCC the legal means to actually enforce net neutrality now the discussion that you'll see now on the arguments that you'll see against this is like well that's heavy-handed and we don't need that sort of government intervention the solution should be that we have legislation that we enshrine in law the prospect of net neutrality which is fine and I'd be totally fine with that just to be clear if there was a law that was passed that said here's a net neutrality and stuff in the internet should be treated equally and everything there wasn't a bunch of subparagraphs put in by Internet service providers of exceptions actions and that kind of thing I have you totally fine with that the thing is the light touch approach that the FCC was using in 2014 internet server aizen's sued them and said no you can't do this so the FCC was like all right well in order to prevent Verizon and other Internet service providers from doing stuff like throttling your connection to Netflix because you're trying to watch a movie because suddenly they're like oh no people are using the data that we sold them like oh we sold them a you know we promised them you know that they have this much download and this much upload and they're actually using it because they're streaming video things we promised you Oh No so they've the throttle debt they wouldn't throttle that there's plenty of evidence of that and and then the response to that was like all right well they need some means of enforcing it and the answer to that in the time in 2015 that was title - yeah now if there's a solution beyond title - that involves a law being passed that says net neutrality is net neutrality lots of people are behind that's fine however it's enforced enforce it one way or enforce it the other right the point is right now the FCC is being run by Ajit PI he is a former lawyer for Verizon he's very very clear in his intentions of removing the net neutrality restrictions right now yeah and the fear of people is that that's going to be removed without some legal means in place to prevent Internet service providers from doing otherwise so anyway I'll let Sagar how much ISPs are how much money they're gonna give a G PI if he demolishes net neutrality it's I wonder how much is on the line for him that's the only thing he's thinking about like say blonde dollars there's this over the world there are tons of resources that you can go to to see all the money that had been paid to to like members of Congress and Senators yeah donations to their campaigns which might have influenced their decisions one way or another so that's one thing but it's pretty crappy and shady that they're planning very specifically on this very specific day that's been used many times in the past to try to like sweep stuff under the rug we're gonna do it on this day especially when you look at all of the 22 million comments that have been provided to them and if you look at the ones that aren't provided by form documents like 98% of them are in favor of net neutrality sorry yeah I'm okay if it's not enforced via title 2 I'm okay with that but I'm not okay with title 2 being removed and saying like we're gonna remove this and then we'll do legislation in the future yeah that'll never happen like the laws have to be passed first yeah exactly if you're yeah if you're relying on the existing executive or legislative branch to pass any laws right now mm-hmm well let's move on this can go way deeper if we let it but we do have a show to finish we're 30 go delete we did some donations to Puerto Rico a few weeks back I think that was actually maybe three or four weeks back on the show because after the United States suffered a slew of hurricanes this hurricane season in September Porto Rico is it really hard a significant amount of their infrastructure was leveled and if anyone out there still has the means to provide any further donations to Puerto Rico we highly encourage it because they're still having a pretty rough time but in the tech news side of it Google has actually our alphabet I guess I should say with a parent company of Google has actually been deploying Project loon to provide some connectivity to hard-hit areas of the islands and you can see what if their balloons here with a solar array on it and that this is actually in Nevada but it's on its way to Puerto Rico can they really launch something in Nevada flight to Puerto Rican pretty crazy there alphabet they can do anything but yeah hurricane Irma took 95 percent of Puerto Rico's cell phone towers these balloons are a way to extend at the range of their existing cell unit so cellular network and pull a Wi-Fi extender yeah and one of the major benefits is the fact that these balloons are up in the air so they don't have to deal with as much of interference with structures and that kind of thing or the limitations of the internet connect internet towers cell phone towers that kind of thing that are kind of connected to Terra Firma anyway this is another ARS technica article linked in the description like all of my articles are so if you guys want to read a little bit more up on it please check that out I wanted to have a few more notes on this but but I don't I'm sorry about that it's running out of time but a single balloon can serve an area the size of Rhode Island Wow and Puerto Rico is about three times the size of Rhode Island three balloons theoretically I would imagine given the shape and everything maybe even so maybe one or two more than that depends on how much Netflix the Puerto Ricans are watching yeah but I would have been 10 I would imagine it would be a massive help to them right now since much of the island is still without power yeah as well as without access to drinking water and it makes sense Oh an alphabet you know has a vested interest in in getting people back online because they own Google the more people that got on on on the interwebs the more ads and more like more ad sales and revenue and they can rack up and advertising things like that so yes it's purely it's a mutual mutually beneficial motivated purely by profit yeah mostly penguins one week ago also on twitch we we were broadcasting on Twitch actually I believe when part of this happened but there was a giant robot fight oh you were you familiar with that I mean I was there's a big old robot fights we talked a little bit of ink about its kind of lead-up to this it was Japan versus the you know it's yeah there were actually three robots in the fights the American the American two company was called American megabytes megabox megabots I'm sorry make it you really are a tech nerd I know exactly but they had a ranged attack robot called iron glory fifteen feet tall and six tons and then they had their main robot which is called Eagle prime 12 ton robot designed to lift and saw things I saw lots of people but yeah unfortunately the the actual thing itself do and and bear in mind like there's people in these there's people in these massive robots so as we are about like big robots fighting each other and that kind of thing there's people in them they can't just go at it and blow each other all out someone will die and shoot rockets and whatever right the actual production though here was just slightly disappointing to people because it was staged over the course of three days there was lots of downtime apparently for the teams to go in and do repairs a mother who's on the robots themselves and the video itself is just good like this is one of the things this is slo-mo like no one wants to see one robot punched the other robot and it fell over like no one wants to see this they want to see real-time look at that lay that punch and that's all stage two and like punch it they fell over that was briefly reading over this article it's not even like the robots are actually doing that these are all preset moves that the pilots literally just like press a button and the robot doesn't get pre-configured it's like a preset move yes so it's not really a real-time fight and I think you're like what to come like three days there's something to shoot the entire thing and they only got like ten minutes of usable combat footage out of the whole thing so it's like it's cool but not when you have this expectation that that goes on for like a year or two since they promised this fight was gonna happen that there would this just be like this organic Gundam Wing fight and it would be like epic and like everyone's imagine like your imagination is always gonna outdo the reality right and I think I feel like this is a perfect example every time yeah so yeah oh I feel it unfortunately the giant robot fight was a little bit of a letdown for a lot of people but you know I am I am I'm optimistic I'm optimistic that in the future we will have the resources and the technology to have my massive robots fight each other for our amusement I think this is something that will happen and I think it's just it's just it's just a matter of progress and the people who are dedicated to advancing this technology cuz honestly like you got people in it right because you know obviously it's like the mech and whatever you have the person yeah make these autonomous I don't want to say autonomous autonomous use your words carefully otherwise that's on it so make these fully remote control by like a couple by two or three human he would control people and make them in such a way that they're disposable enough yet complete destruction of one right wouldn't like level the company that built it or something like that give him a consciousness or you can have robot fights or maybe doing AI I think that would be something that would bring bring really bring a lot of joy to a lot of people I agree all right final story here for our news is player knowns battlegrounds many people have played it super popular game right now they don't have a huge cheating problem they do not apparently okay because they're anti cheat system is banning more than six thousand players every single day boom that's right when you consider how many players they have worldwide it is a massive amount of players so there's still ative this article says twenty thousand players were banned home for by on Friday Samuel forty the author of this article on PC gamer said he hasn't come across a single hacker in battle grands not an obvious one he says battle eye is the company that police's their servers the official account tweeted yesterday that between six thousand and thirteen thousand players are getting their marching orders daily Wow on Saturday and crackdown on nearly twenty thousand players within the previous twenty 24-hour period vast majority of those were from China where in-game ads recently caused a flood of negative reviews of the game to hit steam but yeah they say over 320 mm cheers have been banned from player unknown battlegrounds so far more than twice as many as posted by the actual official account just a month ago so so the Chinese cheaters allegedly were only putting like they were like Hackley adding add I don't know I don't know what using my aimbot but they were just putting ads and in the game no that's separate that's a separate thing so a lot of a lot of the it says the vast majority of the hackers that were banned in the pre in this 24-hour period were from China mm-hmm separately in China they've recently started pushing in game ends I believe that's from playing on battleground site I see and that pushing of in-game ads has caused a flood of negative reviews I see it but I don't know if that's just regional thing or what huh but anyway point is hacking in a video game stupid yeah there we go don't ruin it forever all right let's move on to I know where to go I need nipped FML time thank you really quick yeah you can I'll shoot it halfway anything man bloody there it is though there's a brief brief pause hold on I need to get the mail hold on hold on I wouldn't stay there okay all right everything's fine lutely prepared for mealtime hey that's heavy I'm dropping things hold on okay all right so one of the things I intended to do before we started today's show was to go through some of these packages and remove the labels I did not do this but nevertheless let's begin mail sign this first package is from John from Virginia it looks like yes having to go ahead and open it I might know of one what that's candy I want some I don't know if there's any candy oh you got some big stuff over here yeah I know that wasn't to the PIO box I just don't careful these have oh the fragile sticker no they're not label John oh yeah yeah John sent me why the cameraman are a sink this is the addressable LED okay it's also magnetic which is super cool this is from a fan uh this is from John John who I don't know if John isn't yeah I mean I think he's a fan I don't know if he's also hey Paul here's the 3-pin addressable RGB strip fur arctic panther haha oh well you said you needed in part three of your reef refresh video I would like to see it used as I ordered it by mistake for my Z 270 and can use it okay so John does not work for kilowatt I thought it might be somebody actually from kilowatts to handwritten notes moving 3-pin not working on a four pin header go figure keep doing what you do I will watch and like the vid every time thank you very much John will thank you for sending this and I am totally gonna integrate this into ya arctic Panther back there because right now it's got enough light but it's kind of on the on the dimmer side and I was yes I did connect up the the header so I have the the lead can coming off the motherboard so I can get plug-in a strip - there we go awesome thank you John beautiful alright next up next up also sent to the peel box by the way guys if you want to send me anything P o box for three to five Diamond Bar California that's listed in the description alright I think I know where this is coming from and perhaps someone who we should get in touch with oh oh what what do you that do you ever watch is a speaker key do you ever watch the wind show this is one of their sponsors isn't it it is they sent they sent you jerky I don't know so you don't know if it's directly from them I don't know if it's directly from them or if someone ordered it and had it sent to a Carolina Reaper infused that's yours wait what can I do it's mine I'm down for the mail buffalo bacon I was so excited to try this this is only actually I think someone might have ordered that it was it was said with the LTTE coupon and someone knew but when saw was watching LTT I don't want us I don't know if anyone in savage jerky watches our show we'd love to have you as a sponsor hopping Buffalo which I think will also probably be good one for you I'm trying to peaceably no maple buffalo bacon that those of you want to wear Carolina Reaper I think currently is the hottest pepper on earth there's there's two that are have been made that are hotter oh really since then yeah but it's it's not surprising at all but I mean it's like it's hotter than like a scorpion back we're gonna ghost pepper looks like bacon okay it's not kick a little bit mm-hmm the maple buffalo bacon anchovies a thank you to whoever said this to us I don't know who it is yeah whoever you are we appreciate it um damn that's fine yeah there's no extra note on the packing slip or anything so whew I don't know if that's a fan or what alright oh boy a few more things here and these aren't said by fans these just arrived so I got this one here first here so what that is Star Wars that figured out later don't worry about it all right I'm gonna use my a bottle opener to open package look how sharp that is okay I almost need to cool it down with the habanero stuff seems kind of painful baby cool people oh oh there's two things in here Oh batteries what this is an Amazon order oh and they shipped it together which is weird because all right so I got some Amazon basics and I know that this is a shock now for Mike yeah cuz I have I want to see if this fits is it really that bad the Carolina Reaper stuff is pretty n hot yeah still very hot whoo whoo that's gonna last a while okay so recently tested my audio test oh it's my a DK audio Deutsche craft so this is ooh that's perfect oh yay is that replacing one of these no it's it's I can have another one Mike that's em over there that I ought to switch around that I actually think this is roughly the same quality there they're all condenser microphones yeah so that's very nice one last thing to open very quickly just cuz it arrived today this actually really works well the senses that this cool like my mouth is click watering this father they put over here is good and soon yeah you're really having a hard time ooh dude shit's hot oh nice I know what that is hey Haven it's really hot I mean it's the Carolina Reaper yeah it is just pretty damn hot um it's okay don't mind me I haven't sort of hiccup thing yet so I think we're good yay I have one of these on the way to check it out nice what colors you get black of wait beautiful all right that's all I can show for that that's isn't it like the two hundred or one yeah hey so she says it's so like cool this speaking of cool I could really use something cool right now yeah here it gets warm at this point compared to the heat that I'm feeling oh yeah but worse is it it's a building type of heat ah you really seem uncomfortable yeah it's it's not the most pleasant okay well alright so let's move on then I bet here in a perfect state of mind for our sponsor spot yeah you know you know our soup for today advertisements seem like a great way to get my mind off yeah exactly the burning fiery sensation with hell we have to get through this and then I think there's some relief for you just after won't leave for you following so let's make it snappy just that so a big thank you to deep cool for spots we got some hardware yeah thank you today we're featuring their deep co-captain e^x RGB no no I'm good I'm good carry on baby don't mind I'm perfectly fine I can handle it all of them look way cooler it's a 240 millimeter all-in-one I'm gonna do a quick unboxing of this we've unboxed it once or twice on recent episodes they have been our sponsor for October uh-huh yeah this is available in two so the one I'm showing right now is black cow on his heavens to unbox the white version which has white accents on the radiator as well as on the pump the pump block combo just a delay at the bottom uh-huh this pet block combo also has RGB LEDs that are integrated into it that will shine it and look all pretty on there which is which is super nice in a very convenient not only that Kristen's is a couple hundred twenty millimeter pins not really cool yeah yeah rubber rubberized grommets on the edge of these and some cool fan blade designs on there as well cool enough down with him really not very effective you get an RGB LED strip along with it which is nice little add-on as loveable RGB controller that you can use to control that RGB LED strip and that will help you help me stay cool kill me now just like cat yeah this is me without the captain 240 X RGB exactly see if he had that he'd be a lot cooler I sure would yes oh my god anyway a quick brief look at the it's also scary is like try not to touch my eyes yeah don't touch her no I know I know I was about to numbers been using my sure here are you cool website is linked in the description and the 240 X RGB does have a landing page if you guys want some more information feel free to check it out and I wanted to quickly show off the RGB itself this is a little controller you get that's their RGB that lights up on the block pump itself looks very nice another GBM that looks great surely all right pal no give me a second okay cuz I have something that will help you okay thank God I was waiting for this segment just cuz I figured you had something that to aid in my torture oh oh god this is what miss this is what like no no like really bad I don't know even I don't even know I can't words words hot is the only word I know oh ho God is that someone I think it is oh thank god yes your timing could have not coming anymore perfectly I am dying right now that's ice cream is that our next segment there you go just fall festival yeah and yeah if that includes ice cream yeah I'm waiting pretty formalities right now Oh looks like someone's already dug in oh there is a God Oh gonna have a nice cooling effect it really does well you know what's gonna go it's very nice of that cow hmm what what's that homemade apple pie Oh homemade tools oh yes it's amazing how that one bite I'm like instantly restored back to health rest of the show by the way is mostly us eating stuff this is you guys know hey you know what there's a twitch category for that now of people huge social eating is a thing so social eating all right we should feel zero shame right now I'll change that up then stuffing our faces in front of a live audience is oh seven hundred some people as we mentioned briefly over at the beginning of Cal's half it's so good I need I mean it's good but this fall it's falling in Southern California so cool as is the hip and popular thing to do I would I went to apple picking this past weekend Wow yes what was really homemade then yeah so I picked I picked the apples these are Winesap apples which you can't just go and buy a story that's an heirloom variety of Apple no yes no and then from Saturday night I've brought the apples home and I used my apple corer slicer peeler to apple core and slice and peel them and then I made this a fire and I don't see you very even if substantial amount it looks delicious so this is a given a side profile show you gotta see the layers of Apple that you hand-picked apples in there looks great so we're gonna serve some of this up right now mmm to celebrate I think my favorite part so far of this pie is that it doesn't contain Carolina Reapers paralyzer prefer anything anything I'm afraid so drilled that your pie does not contain one of the world's hottest peppers yeah usually don't I usually leave that out oh god it's called it spelling drawer in the recipe that there you go I'm getting pie everybody looks great okay scoop actually I could warm up doing it warmed up sure let me do this let me warm them up okay yeah okay usually provides a nice contrast between the coldness of the ice cream one with the warmest of the pies now imagine a look what's horrible I thought I thought one of the dogs was not I lost a piece of oh that's not good bitch I've been here in a tow crushed left behind Oh Oh my nose is running from that jerky well I could tell that was oh you weren't making that up there what a perfect opportunity like what a perfect time for you to bust out the ice cream I know it's just ideal if this is all this is all fine you've totally planned all this you you Fox I mean I didn't I didn't know that you were getting Carolina Reapers ie stuff in that you know I it really is I you know what I have to respect it though where's the name well Savage yeah Savage jerky yeah it definitely um is aptly named granted I'm not sure you know they've got other things like jalapeno which is not a habanero sorry oh then you would be pretty weak but um what is this anything balance it out with some of the maple buffalo bacon jerky that Paul got no and it literally is bacon super good mmm ooh ooh Oh bacon and ice cream a match made in heaven let me try this alright we got a piece of bacon bacon jerky it really is more bacon than jerky I think I put some ice cream on that it's like I'm pregnant right now anything is getting with a pie oh I'll do that too okay thank you hmm yeah oh my god he's so good feel like our twitch view counts going up after we stop stop talking about tech and story just eating on camera like this look we're getting more viewers we should just we just every time just eat a bunch of crap eat I mean it's a lot easier yeah I'm cool with that okay nice can be going on and then we've got thank you you can yes I can scoop you I'll skip ice cream there of course is that good that's perfect there you are lovely whoo oh my god yeah the Fall Festival is going really well is great you've got pie huh bacon we've got this pumpkin here and I was gonna have us carve the pumpkin but I've decided against that I'm just gonna put it here oh the scenery yeah doing brush to her perving is too much work right now oh yeah no I couldn't do it but look it's there in my current state yes right so now we've got our pie we can go ahead and maybe a look at some donation comments and stuff yeah all right what do we got here um let's see Paul's half here we go first off from Carl Hall the five dollars in one sense of Canadians now Paul by Kyle a beer at this and remind him to beware bottle necks alright well and Carolina beef jerky so you got one that's said to for you to buy me a beer right mm-hmm and I got wonders for me to buy you up now we're square so we're even mmm-hmm good lunch $50 nice Paul's doing video ank you Pete helped me build my first rig in 2011 oh that's awesome beautiful it's a while back - hmm thank you very much 2011 Daniel Collins ten bucks no comment Thank You Daniel the best kind I was very very kind of you burnsy nurse make sure we got all happy reviews by jefe some guys just here in support of side B choose from Thank You Sebastian this is really good we can't surf oh my god your pie is honestly hmm what are you doing making YouTube videos salt and brown claret you're in the wrong business just so good I hear what you said Alton Brown and good eats episode I'm talking about pie crust how it's supposed to be flaky uh-huh and and flaky and tender tender and flaky yeah mmm but but those two things are in a opposition to each other so he goes through this whole thing about how to say I use his pie crusts method yeah it worked out beautifully he's a very very smart man yeah you know there's a person on there yeah we are but there's a bee but it's $80 change in Ian's pesos hi guys I have this a 10-7 80 50 K which GP you should turn this old HTPC into a casual gaming PC I haven't using rocket League and some fighting games RPGs nice show right now I'd say in 10 gtx 1050 would be a good choice yeah yeah rocket League and like basic fighting games you don't really need much horsepower for that so and then they attend 78 50 K isn't gonna be able to keep up with much beyond that yeah cool benedikte $5 familete finally able to tune in after a long time that a lot of assignments ahead of time to be able to tune in Hey Ultra spooky halloween show next week oh yeah that's coming next week that's what's gonna be fun Paul and I already have our Halloween costumes picked out what do you think that is you haven't announced it yours yet right not really no keep it a secret next Tuesday you'll all be revealed will be pretty epic so stay tuned for that Cain Harris 5 Australian perhaps Paul get zero insertion force pullover hoodies and just how much do you hate front panel audio Paul um I hate it too it's like the bastard FXX it really sucks a lot of time mm-hmm often the circuitry go into the front panel connector is completely different than let's go into the back connector mm-hmm yeah that sucks sometimes through it in with like the other one zero insertion force hoodies I don't have plans with that it's like a it's a it's a design with lots of different colors and everything so it's a little bit more complex to set up then then then just you know if logos so that's why the hoodies are the way they're at I might consider it maybe a limited run or something like that yeah but thank you Kane thanks Ben machine v2 ten bucks can i buy your old sponsor of hardware you don't use forty-three please trying to build my brother at EDC um machine we can't ask that pretty much weekly daily daily if not um and it's just a lot of work honestly to box up you know first of all I mean what can I sell anyone anything that's half working or not fully functional so before we ever sell or get rid of anything we usually test it right and then we have to like just do it a little quality control and then we have a like box it up like package it make sure it's gonna like secure and go to the post office and like ship it out like yeah it doesn't seem like a big thing but it really it really is it takes a lot of time and effort to do that sort of thing and so I feel like that's why we generally don't sell a lot of our stuff to fans occasionally Paul and I in the past we've done a fan meetup locally so anyone who's like in our area can can meet up with us and and like purchase some of the stuff that we the excess hardware we have so many burps right now for a very good price I think I sold like a Liam Lee case the last time for like 10 bucks there's like a hundred and fifty dollar case I was like ten dollars and that's that's pretty much how we get rid of stuff when it when it comes to like pawning it off to like it's like you guys and stuff like that so fever in the area maybe you look out for one of those meetups um but thank you for your donation in the less NZ sure you didn't or unit none Newton British pounds 10 pounds Rams darling were rising the 1,700 at 4 gigahertz at one point three five seven volts okay try tweaking RAM from autotext and P but can't hit even three point one anymore with any voltage tried going to default in BIOS but no luck hitting anything about three any advice had 3.1 any more on the XMP depending on your board might be specific to the RAM some boards do other settings along with XMP settings assuming that you're playing at overclocking and stuff like that what rank you use um I would say your 4 gigahertz 1.37 5 volts overclock is just fine and I would stick with that as a manual overclock rather than trying to mix with XMP stuff yeah if that helps yeah yep Jake 3d 10 bucks jinx are you originally thinking freenas not unread don't want to pay for unread oops what has been your experience with freeness also missed my first comment on Kyle's half blue RGB pants is beating up my experience with free Ness has been good yeah I mean it's a very intelligently designed file system as far as ZFS cows and freenas has a lot of functionality considering that it's free software so I've enjoyed using it and deploying in stuff actually and I need to rebuild my freenas right now it's not currently in use but I like it a lot so if that's something you're looking into I'd recommend checking it out especially if you don't want to pay 400 Thank You Jake Jeremiah Boyet jamya how old are you guys why didn't you build your first PC did you ever had have barbed fittings in a water clean gloop no I never had barbed fittings in a water cooling loop we usually use like hey fittings to be honest because um they've been a primary sponsor in the past when did I first don't like first PC 2011 I think after I got the job at Newegg and all helped me we actually built a system to get my first build ever was actually on video we did a little speed build between me and Joanne Joanne tech lover mm-hmm that's the the very first build I did where I actually tried installing the motherboard to the case without standoffs because I just ya know that standoff seat were a thing I'm last think I got so much for that and then and then I finally built my own personal PC about a month later at home all on my own booted it up for the first time all the lights turned on the fan spun up and it was like it was magic it was pure magic what about you I put my first PC when I was I think I did some upgrades on our we had an HP desktop like one of those flat desktop desktops when I was like 14 then we did like memory upgrades on it mmm I built my first PC that I built off of a a bare-bones system that I got at Fry's I think that's 15 or 16 and what else did I ever have barbed fittings I've I've used water cooling loops with barbed fittings and I don't think that's like something I've used in a system I've built or anything I have used barbed fittings I guess I should say yeah I hope that's a good enough answer but Thank You Jeremiah yeah no Ark Adam net terrier $5.00 I also want to thank you guys for the raid on my girlfriend curious codecs last nice oh sweet I released a video on my channel showcasing her reaction on my show she did have like to be honest we raided a lot of people on Twitch she had one of the most genuine and entertaining reactions we've seen you began weeping immediately yeah yeah there there are tears are shed to set the bar for us cue waterworks like all right we gotta top this who I mean we make crime so we're honored to have given her that shout outs and to get her partner does she mentioned earlier um congrats to both you guys Geraldo Gerald's 10 bucks fiance fine I'm sorry I heard that his fiancee financed a boutique built PC or be patient and buy parts over time my wife and I are expecting our first child in December and building right now is out of the question but my I 537 50k is showing its age so I would I buy your warrants overtime if you can troubleshoot them and make sure that they're not defective because if the issue with buying your parts over time is that you know after let's say six months you've acquired all the parts you try you assemble a system and turn on you find out like the Rams dead or something but your moron or your return policy for whatever site you bought it through is no longer accepting return you gotta like deal with the manufacturer to see if like the warranty is still good and like that I generally recommend buying all your parts at once if you possibly can what you could do is just save up money just save up money over time and then when you finally have enough money buy all the parts at once and just assemble the cygnets that's a much better way to go and then you'll also prevent yourself in like second-guessing yourself when you're like you know you've got like half the parts already and like you know it's like four months later like wait should I have really bought that SSD maybe I'll buy this as I see I just buy everything at once it makes it so much easier in my opinion yeah I'd agree see if you can hold that with this 30 750 K a little bit longer and will you tell your kids born yeah first make sure that everything comes out all right there and then then maybe the spare money that's better but congratulations and and I hope you enjoy being being a father yes Gerald - buck donation this was supposed to be a question not a statement oh yeah I think we got that was supposed to be supplemental yes Heather wifey sauce sauce is $5 Kyle's saved some room cuz I actually made dinner tonight all I can't wait to see your Halloween costume this weekend yes wifey sauce already knows what Paul's going to be nice and she's taunting all of you with it I'm ready for dinner - oh yeah CCAM good Chris use the reefer dirty for the next deck tech brilliant idea I was thinking the same thing also I think it would be a great night for an after party or Jamie now or Halloween night he must mean Halloween night because I don't think I'm in I don't think I'm in quite the position do an after party tonight having dinner with Heather and all afterwards but that's suddenly they get games loaded yeah we have you games loaded maybe maybe maybe there's a special thing we could do where we like we cut the show a little bit shorter like we ended it like seven 37 45 ish and then we do like a little after-party you know what I mean like we used to order could always continue playing lovers in a dangerous space-time yes that was that was a lot of fun initially he did that briefly that was a good game but yes well we'll definitely consider that thank you very much you see Chris Wesley five bucks need help with the 4k budget bill can you guys help sure but we would need a lot more information this followed up Chris mostly $10 donation okay work a video editing budget bills can you guys help every donation it's just like one more credit you need like continue to donate increasing the dollar dollars and we will have ever slightly more information each day I get to a point yeah where everything's fine just notice up on Twitter it's free yeah go get a get a threader for nineteen fifty X and a gtx 1070 there you go adam w or nineteen twenty five dollars paul i want to send you a gift and involve you in some minor shenanigans with someone you know can i can I contact you direct someone I know sure Adam I'm not sure how the best way to contact me directly honestly I get people attempting to contact me all the time so I'm kind of I can't I face a lot of it out I can't yes so yeah I don't know what the best way would be maybe for you to contact me maybe but I'm not wheat at you like in all caps with like you know screaming bloody murder w-whatever but but yeah but then I go for like a couple days at a time without looking at Twitter yeah and stuff even that's miserable so alright so yeah Adam I'm open I just I need I need some more more details there whatever indeed all right we're gonna end today's show John as we typically do with some Johnson's shout outs to people who have donated and then we're going to do a which rate that's what trade for anyone who wants to get there early we're trading Osiris OSI are easy route which as pointed out to us by cell I believe that's Osiris reviews I think cell says he's playing destiny to use plaintiffs but before you guys jump over there and say hi a couple quick shout outs it's people who have ordered stuff first for Robert Blair comes from the Netherlands oh my goodness all the way from the Netherlands it's got the stainless steel bottle opener and 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