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I don't know it's still one of my favorite I know economically the design it's still one of my favorites and my onyx it's like a house it's like a pillow for my hand 7,000 but hello everyone and welcome to awesome hardware it is Tuesday November 14th 2017 the world is still here everything's still here and we're gonna talk about technology today we're also gonna drink some beer we're also going to potentially use adult language so please bear that in mind if you're easily offended if you have small children please hide them or stuff up their ears with something that doesn't let noise through beyond that we do the show every Tuesday evening and we stream live to twitch.tv slash awesome hardware and also to our YouTube channels right now you're watching my half on Paul's hardware the second half is going to be streamed at Kyle's channel bit with links to that is in the description as well as links to all stuff we're going to talk about today the description on YouTube that is shout out 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all know I get stuff no he has new yeah I got nickels I got nickels they have the decals decals are good available now you can see yes wait let's there it is there's that's it put it on your printer today yes do it now every printer needs one they be aware of bottlenecks shirt still going strong all good stuff it's okay not really good we'll jump at you at the end and I've just opened our first ever bottle of black Tuesday from the brewery that's the name of the Brewing Company this is the brewery it seems an ideal choice for our show as we stream on Tuesdays yes you know we should have opened this on the week of Black Friday we could have had two black weekdays in one week that's okay though maybe I'll buy another one heavy if it's good nothing more blacker yeah it'd be extra black and this is a special limited edition beard seasonal and actually one of my cousin in lausanne wifey sauces side recommended I get one while I had the chance before they sold out everywhere the special thing about this Imperial Stout that's aged in bourbon barrels is that it's 19 point something percent ABV good lord yeah so we're taking actually taking this step up another shoe if that's not the darkest beer I've ever seen last week's beer which I don't remember the name of even because there was so much alcohol that was 16.7% I remember that call boy what was it called again the rump kid from kid pumpkin is here sent in by a fan we're gonna be doing mail time on cows half of the show as well as discussing all the important things pretty much every important thing that needs to be discussed yeah we're gonna talk about a I'm both halves sure will and let's dive right in we're almost ready alright very ready I think we're ready okay here we go cheers Cheers give this give this black Tuesday Ivan I have proper drinking glasses but you think we sold those in a store or something yeah Wow out of that very flavourful we are going to die hmm you know what's scary though is that it doesn't even taste like 19 percent it doesn't taste like easily 10 percent and I believe it if someone holds me so dangerous which is very scary it's tasty it's really good whew it's dark and mysterious Oh delicious all right let's proceed like we're like blackout - yeah first thing that's gonna be hot heavy heart rate let's talk about some new hardware stuff at I'm heavy most of the hardware news from this year who's already do you know the big stuff the big launches has gotten past but there are some products launching just in time for the holiday season starting off from be quiet be quiet the dark bass 700 I like this case why do you have one I think right here I did a building one no it's actually completely built on the table there oh is that built earlier this morning okay so that's a video coming tomorrow on floatplane and then and then we'll come on the main channel I gotta get I gotta get used to the plane thing I'm out yeah we do have a video to show in just a second here but um this seems like a pretty cool case it is very nice as a follow up to some of the other stuff that they've done in this series like the dark bass pro 9 900 and I have worked in and it's got some nice features there it's my favorite be quiet case by a lot like honestly the dark bass pro it's kind of like all the good stuff about dark Bass Pro 900 but in a mid-tower form factor let's I'm gonna talk about 6 bps customer Bryan right well Bryan Bryan totally scooped you with his video I know by the way he always does Bryan where's the sexy there's a sexy be no one's more likely to scoop me than Bryan alright so Bryan would steal new video this has tempered glass side panel RGB lighting one of the things I really like and I'm sorry I got ahead of myself pause brands it front panel IO right here look at that USB 3.1 uh-huh ah type-c port right there that's a 10 gigabit per second and it's got the internal header right there it was it was the first time I've ever plugged one of those into a motherboard for so satisfying it was so nice it's such a nice upgrade something there USB 3 it was great so that's that's very nice to know all sauce tears is poor position faint controller hmm Auto one two three yeah beyond that though you got its reasonably sized supports up to e-atx but not not like full everything he ate CX is that there's a size limitation twelve point zero eight by ten point eight two inches not all the ATX motherboards are made into the same so you just got to make sure it's fits within that steel abs plastic and one point two millimeter aluminium a four millimeter thick tempered glass side panel Wow that's perfectly that timed up was nice Brian Bureau good job Brian he's on it there's these stripes along the front as you can see right now brian's brand new cables a little rickety tables that's like me for the first four years of my chance that's true crappy costco fold-out table for four years but what i was trying to point out here finally it's this wood this LED going along the edge here this is really nice to go six different colors now can you also tie it in I mean you love how it wraps around the foot the feet yeah that looks pretty cool can you also tie that in to your motherboard yes okay so it has a six color controller that you can just do default or you can connect it to your motherboard right and have it sync all up 240 millimeter silent wings PWM 6-pole motor fluid dynamic fans FDB fan bearing fans which is they're super quiet oh yeah and a three year warranty launched today removable mother tray and removable motherboard trash and say yeah and what's it a it was like the dark bass a modular design modular design so as you can see lots of pieces come apart here with the motherboard tray and you can flip it and rotate it and stuff so a lot of the features of like dark Bass Pro 900 for sure one hundred and seventy nine US dollars yep for the MSRP so it is a little on the expensive side but it does seem to have you know the feature set that you'd want for a case you're spending that much money for my god sorry 189 euros I guess but she was different isn't isn't it usually more US dollars than euros uh maybe because be quite sad German company they get a bit of a break there so the changes the currency exchange rate I honestly don't know I just maybe then I don't I don't look at the money market either maybe the euro has tanked recently I saw somewhere that it was 175 euro which would be around well this is but it's still pretty that's too close well that from one of the other articles yeah I'm not sure text by articles no cell said YouTube's dropping frames like they're hot really he didn't say like they're hot part I added that for dramatic effect but he did say that they're dropping for I don't know tell ya I don't tell you cell fix it oh it's your job because it's at 60fps I can switch the 30 on the fly right maybe no I can't I gotta stop all right be right back well you're back don't go anywhere make sure not to uh and the actual Street continuing continuing on like nothing ever happening is the same the same now except if there was a frame rate issue hopefully it should be better now mmm-hmm theoretically yeah we are at 30fps where Kyle's and he hasn't updated to the gh five yet no actually not the gh4 can do 1080 60 you needed upgrade you're sure your capture camera from yes you should get the new that what I've got this got coming out in the 4k 60 yeah I just got I just tell another older ones and I feel dumb I need to return it or something and is it out yet yeah 4k 61 so I think it's coming out really soon I've only seen a few a few things about it cool all right thank you guys for the heads up thank yourself with a heads up on that one hopefully it sounds like from chat things are looking better now moving on for hot and heavy hardware X 299 motherboards any sky like X fans out there it's powerful hardware so there you go Asus is releasing a trio of workstation X $2.99 motherboards which are useful for Rick station any type people who do work station any type things sounds racist that's set racist against workstation epa sees a specific goal is to bridge the gap between standard desktop motherboards and higher-end xeon offerings so this is work with sky like xep is the the article doesn't seem to indicate that they're gonna work with Zeon's asus has done crossover stuff like that in the past but it's not currently listed although you know if intel will somehow let them I'm sure they'll they'll give it a shot there here's a look at the specs though there's three of them the X 299 sage the X 299 Pro /s E and the X 299 Pro all with WS in front to mean the workstation the stage is the biggest then it is a SSI CEB sized motherboard so it's a server it's a server specification but this should fit and most EA TX at most cases that support EA TX it should fit in it's got full seven full size PCIe slots and a PL x bridge which is the first this is the first X 299 by the board I've seen what's at PL x bridge might might give it enough PCI Express Lanes to compete with Red River oh snap but yeah it doesn't mean you can run a quad by 16 setups or you can do a by 8 connection to all seven slots at the same time so that's cool and yeah it looks pretty cool too that's another thing I like about the workstation motherboards AC status they look pretty sweet at least you know the ones they've done in the past 3 4 5 years and a very viable option for someone who's building a high ends you know workstation gaming system or something like that who doesn't want the RGB thing yes because you got a really clean nice-looking motherboard granite they're gonna be more expensive because their workstation but you know if you're building an X 299 then maybe maybe money it doesn't matter to you maybe you have lots of it yep plus I think the workstation boards also have slightly higher grade componentry than like gaming gaming oriented Watson used like higher capacitors and other the surface mounted Hardware on there that's rated for the longer longer lifespan mm-hmm there's like some workstation systems have to be running 24/7 right so I think they're accounting for that that's why a bit more commands to be used in situations where like you know your business is relying on yeah right kind of thing not your game save or whatever yeah all right one more one more bit of heavy hardware here from cooler master this time RGB liquid coolers cooler master is finally jumping on this bandwagon but actually I don't think we one of the first be honest yeah well they do lots of RGB stuff but not a IO liquid coolers now they do have them but I think the title I think the title here highlighting the RGB look at the chorus is that I mean that is yes something that these do but I think that price is actually something that stood out to me a bit more the 240 $60 $70 $70 and the 120 is $60 what that's what that's what it says here that's what the that's what PC game that's what Paul Lilly says I don't Paolo II wouldn't lie to you I don't know we Paul's our honest people but yeah there's the new Luther course how is it super cheap I don't understand then sort of devalue all of their other coolers I mean potentially like it's got RGB I just don't understand it now that's their actual product page how do they do that it's got RGB so it's it's got the RGB Coolermaster logo in the middle and yeah that's very helpful pictures so comes it comes with this little this controller RGB controller which is the same one in the the 610 air cooler than any recently which is nice little easy to use a very nice solution solution and you can connect up you can daisy-chain several strips to it or several items to it if you want to so that's pretty nice to have but yeah there's there's a kid it comes with its low-profile dual chamber RGB pumps with six lighting effects and the controller lighting is compatible with RGB motherboards from aster our case use gigabyte an MSI so it's got the basic four pin RGB comes with master fan MF 120 our RGB fans supports all modern Intel because consumer sockets including LJ 2066 AMD support goes up to and includes Rison so you get a socket that am sorry am for support but does not support thread Ripper um your switch is fine I mean der Tauber get one of the inner Mac starter for coolers those are actually really nice the link text yeah yeah they're good solid yeah the newer designs and those that look pretty cool too the pump design on this is man is manufactured in-house I want a designed in-house by Cooler Master too so I wanted to point that out to it is not a nice tech pump kits that they slap their name on or anything like that so that's that's that's weak alright let's move on cool segment number two for today is gonna be the classic sword fight sword fight is where Kyle and I argue about a very like a hot subject something very controversial it's hot we also provide you guys with strawpoll you guys can vote on you know you're free to vote at the beginning or you can wait and hear our arguments we're gonna take each side because we can do that we have the flexibility and our frontal lobes to take one side or the other and hopefully come to a conclusion then we'll see what you guys think about it so we're gonna start first off about Game of the Year Game of the Year and none of them current the current option it all sucked for games gonna here I hardly played any games this year this is sad this is and in their bus right so currently up for game of the year we have legends of Zelda breath as well yeah Super Mario Odyssey yeah player unknowns battlegrounds yet persona 5 what horizon zero dawn yeah now argument here is for player unknown style grounds which insanely popular game we've played it we've talked about it we've benchmarked it however still a steam technically a steam early access game technically still in beta not like that they they won't tell you that it's a full fully launched game yet they're still developing it so should it be eligible for game of the year that is the question right now we're gonna we're gonna argue about this what do you think should player unknowns battlegrounds be eligible for game of the year of 2017 or should it's should have wait should maybe it should wait for its full fruition and maturity in 2018 what do you think I feel like the obvious choice is yes that it should be eligible obvious choice so I'm gonna argue no oh no it should not be eligible I'm playing devil's advocate here okay I'm gonna take the underdog side because a game that's an early access there should be a separate contest or awards ceremony you posted the chat by the way to be a separate award for beta games or games that are still in development ongoing games that have not been fully released yet I don't think it's fair to compare or best unbeli released games yeah well yeah I mean or just no you're right that sounds you call it the blue ball level there should be no award it should not you should have to finish your game before it can be ranked in or given an award or eligible for that sort of work I feel like it's not quite fair I feel like it's it's probably it's the best beta one of the best betas ever because it's been in beta for so long they've been able to patch it regularly and keep iterating it and fixing all the bugs and making it better adding new things but I don't know I feel like they're just sort of riding the beta wave they're like it's working for us right now like we don't like they don't feel the pressure they they feel zero pressure they're on top of the gaming world right now they feel zero pressure to actually turn it into a full game or label it is that you can get away with a lot when you're when you're still in beta and I feel like there's just something not right about it again playing devil's advocate this isn't fair to say that I honestly feel that way but I could see how other developers who actually completed their games might feel a little salty and rightfully so I think that Blue Hole needs to just man the eff up already it sounds like an insult but that's really the name of the studio the developer no I'm not 12 go away people with Chad blue hole boo-boo yeah I think it's I think it's dumb finish this by the way now I really want to play pub G yeah hurry up go on with your stupid argument good tell me why you're so on I will say yes of course it should be eligible for game of the year because it has broken a bunch of records on Steam as far as like most concurrent players and that kind of thing tons of people are playing it right now it's it's doing good for the computers in general for PCs and PC gaming it's drawing more people in who have heard about this phenomenon and who are like I got to get in on that people are enjoying it so what more can you say when you're trying to rank games of the year it's a game it came out this year it's one of the most popular things that people are playing and enjoying and people are like building computers to play this stuff like that so I think if you think that that's wrong then you are against your anti computers and I feel like that's kind of that's kind of insulting to all of us but maybe Battlefront you should be eligible oh and it's in it because it's technically welcome in beta will come - that was in beard yeah I think the argument is about front to has had the amount of successes alright so guys you can feel free to continue continue voting or whatever gonna check out the results no should not be eligible oh wow wins I was I'm surprised actually no I I knew you're gonna win the whole really yeah because people because I read the comments on their head okay so this has already been yeah in discussion okay yeah I mean the argument people are making right now resting wih their does Bethel guns be even on this list when it's not even a fully launched game and yeah like like you said yeah there's something to be said for that right just because it's successful doesn't it you give it that status all right thank you all for your wonderful participation here yay next up we have a topic that is is really super super hot on the internet right now everyone's talking about it EA has gone and given people yet another reason to hate them we're gonna be going to into this in depth on Kyle's half of the show Walker for right now though and for the purposes of sword fight we are going to specifically take a look at some memes that have been birthed as part of this boo this current every other word was normal and then you got to bird point being though we're gonna take a look at some of these memes I've come about as a result of this and we're gonna figure out which is the best okay because I like that if anything that we that can be gleaned from you know the fodder of the Internet's and people hating on something it is epic memes yep so the source of this of course is Star Wars Battlefront - mmm-hmm which he is developing and they the news came out recently as to some of the practices going on about this EA went on reddit in order to respond to some community complaints about this and said the intent is to provide players of the sense of trying to accomplishment for unlocking different heroes as for costs we selected in the initial values based upon data from the open beta and other adjustments based on milestone rewards for launch I'm not gonna read this whole thing basically they blow a bunch of smoke up people's asses about why they're trying to charge a bunch of people for things to unlock in the game unlockable heroes it is the most down ranked reddit comments ever well are they charging people for items in the game I thought it was they were they were requiring an insane and certain amount of credits to purchase certain things in game that credits you can but then you can buy the credits with real money right so it's it's basically pants unlock heroes paints unlock things that other people it's like that would take you just way too long but it's not just the paid unlock stuff that's better but it's also the wait I lost my train of thought there it's not just painting a box of stuff that's better but it's also the egregious amount of work that it takes in order to unlock stuff manually cuz they're all well you can just play the game and unlock this like just grind or whatever right there's a bunch of stuff that's come out as far as like stuff that's locked like certain quests you can only do a certain number of times a day and then it's locked for 14 hours so three times so it's basically they're pushing people as much as they possibly can towards spending more money on the game via unlocks and stuff quick question before sorry I have to ask do you know if these things that people can potentially unlock actually improve their gameplay let's improve Oh does absolutely okay then that is a problem yeah I was gonna say this is just cosmetic then who cares but yes legitimate use for that's pay to win yes the legitimate use for like in-game upgrades and upsells and stuff like that make them cosmetic like that's fine yeah buy a pretty hat you know buy a World of Warcraft cute little pet that takes a hundred hours to mark they give money to charity for something like that yeah that is an appropriate use of in-game purchases this is not and the all of the bad feedback that's a he gay yeah alright so first name is the opening crawl from Star Wars Battlefront to the intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes as for cost we selected initial so the blue is based upon take the initial comment basically yeah this and this will be the opening credits they want players to read the opening credits opening credits hilarious here's number two is new plans for an x10 controller as a front I am shocked that's not already a thing it's good this that's a way an existing meme I didn't see anything with added in the commenter but it doesn't make a lot of sense I like that it's got the chip reader in there too though that's honestly that's not a terrible idea at all yeah I mean if you didn't want the game or you know your data your credit card information to be stored in their database and you just swiped it every time you want to make a transaction I'd be a real easy way to do it instead of having to input all the data the digits by controller or whatever I don't know all right Kyle like I don't know why I'm defending this me Mouse I'll totally buy that I'm being way too hard about this I thought this counts as a meme but this is this is an interaction with EA customer service today everyone's like and then they ask may I know the reason for cancellations I'm sure you've heard same reason as all the other customer supports who's who's must be going through hell right now be nice to them if you do have in common they're just doing their jobs people they're not possible this is this is a very appropriately reused me sinking the depths previously only theorized please black hole theory with the EAS karma and that is before and then finally we have the the pragmatists for the pragmatist meme here which is I would say yeah we got en a no they're not gonna make any any money cuz everyone's hating on them right now but there's no point yet oh yeah compare they're like the reddit their mentality people who are complaining about it versus all the other gamers who are just by gonna play the game yeah it's a very loud minority things that they complaining about so that's funny there's are memes we're gonna we're gonna argue this of course right now which one do you think how what was your favorite this is obviously very controversial um there was some more - I have to apologize just for any honorable mentions that I missed I did see a couple more today after I had made this list I gotta say that I mean I talked a lot about the controller I think that that's a hilarious meme I think that's pretty good the customer service knows thing is equally funny because that's just incredibly meta like even even their own customer service like yeah we got cheese probably a script thing that they can just push now they're calling for that we understand that's is the reason we understood yeah that's my quick argument yeah I mean they turned off the refund button did you catch that he ate it yeah really they turned off the responsibility for that game or just specifically for bail French for Battlefront - I didn't about that so people had to call in in order to get a refund that's a dick move which apparently I haven't verified this but a thing I read said 60 or 70 thousand people got refunds or something like that but I was that might not be verified I want to I want to clarify that but um yeah lots of people getting refunds due to due to some of this nonsense but again all right Sophie so you're gonna go we don't need to argue this I think cuz we've already spent enough time of it but you're going for the cut for the controller the next gen controller yeah I'm gonna go with the opening crawl just because I thought that was a pretty classic when was that again this is the stuff at the Star Wars oh yeah yeah just a giant excuse yeah list of now provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for locking the first people to grind while playing about getting frustrated against people who have just worked out money heroes and yeah and now have a leg up in in the battlefield so to speak because they have cash and you don't know that's shitty pay to win should be shunned all right so let's take a quick look at responses thank you to all who voted I'm a bumper service response all right that is Lani I want both sword fights hey Plus customer service right there and yet Akai wins with the next-gen way control e opening crawl coming in third sad truth in last noise noise noise it's just it was too real mystery no yeah it's anger expressing is for nothing and we will be talking a little bit more about that whole debacle in my half as well indeed a tune all right what is next next news is good old standard basically what standard Ted just news there's nothing more really that technical well it's it's alright I'm solving is turning the Lord of the Rings into a TV show have you heard have you heard about this no hear this I'm not surprised though everything gets its own TV sure there's the Ring of Power with the power the looks like my wedding ring the language is that of Mordor which I will not utter here no do not but anyway amazon has won the rights to the Lord of the Rings television series to produce television series of this good they have also done a multi season commitment to creating a TV series and the Lord of the Rings universe the way the article reads makes it sound like they're going to do something in the Game of Thrones style as immediately thought that but the comparison there seems to like people simply being oh it's gonna be a clue to rings but like with people having sex while they discuss important plot points and stuff like that and a lot more rape and incest I guess but I don't know I don't necessarily think that's exactly what they're going for but just the way that the game of Thrones is kind of this epic medieval style rape story being told over what's fantasy and all that kind of stuff yeah that's what they're going for I wonder though since wow I don't know can can Amazon get away with the same kind of crap that HBO pulls as far as like yeah I mean they could make it as our graphic and visceral as Game of Thrones if they wanted to what what do you what is your take on that because the movies are nothing like Game of Thrones in that sense um but I would be kind of an interesting spin I I guess I mean the comparison obviously is Peter Jackson's work with the Lord of the Rings material which that's not which I really liked at least I mean at least not The Hobbit but the rest of it right and yeah obviously you can go grittier and dirtier and and that kind of thing as evidenced by Game of Thrones I I don't know if I would want it to go that direction but I could see it be a little bit more adult themes to some degree yeah but you also got a look at the source material material and chair or token and like you didn't he didn't write about a lot of read but tortured stuff like that yeah there's obviously evil and bad things that happen and then that kind of thing but right not that much graphic description so I feel like if you want to stay a little bit more true to the series who the source material then then you wouldn't go super hardcore with it yeah but yeah I mean I can do with some more violence yeah violence I'd be cool with that violence is fine he was right this is not ray swords just like yeah man on man violence I guess that's good study rape but you know what I mean yeah yeah I don't think that's what I meant okay no Jeff Jeff Bezos the you know the owner of Amazon our CEO of Amazon has reportedly asked Amazon Studios division to focus more on the big prestige worthy shows with global appeal similar to Game of Thrones this new show will explore new storylines proceeding in jr. are Tolkien's Fellowship of the Ring with the potential spin-off series also included as part of the deal so it's going to be prequels it's gonna happen before The Hobbit I don't know if they're gonna go back because it really is a second age I mean that's the thing there's so much history in the universe so like everything in the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings is Third Age and there's still stuff that happened before the earlier in the Third Age before that stuff and then second agent first date so I don't know but there's a lot of cool history there's a lot of cool stories it's really cool universes Peter Jackson have any involvement no I don't believe so okay and there's lots of long-lived characters as well who do exist in the current and in the Lord of the Rings series that you guys may have seen usually like the elves and stuff yeah you got Galadriel and Tom Bombadil and and and Elrond and quite a few other characters such as that so cool that revealed how much was paid for the rights to the show but reports claim that Amazon Netflix and HBO were all originally approached with the offers and it was priced in the 200 to 250 million dollar range which is pretty crazy but it's some pretty drool-worthy intellectual property to purchase of course but that does is to make it as expenses as expensive as Jeff Bezos his entire acquisition of The Washington Post which is kind of crazy to think about as comparison anyway those insane next up Firefox has a new version out of Firefox Quantum and it's been getting some pretty positive feedback from what I've been reading they've made it much faster which is obviously always a good thing when it comes to internet browsing but Firefox version 50 seven there's no there's nothing there's no other this is a ARS technica article but there's nothing besides that picture of Firefox so they have a sleek to interface it's got major performance enhancements under the hood faster to load and render render pages user interface should remain quick and responsive even under heavy load with hundreds of tabs whoa hundreds it specifically says fact checking that one yeah so since Firefox was originally developed was initially developed web pages have become more dynamic and structure and applications are richer and more graphically intensive javascript is also a lot more complex complex and difficult to debug secondly computers now have many cores in simultaneous threads giving them much greater scope to work in parallel so it's been updated to take advantage of that and security also remains a pressing concern prompting the use of new techniques to protect against exploitation some of the rebuilt portions are even using Mozilla's new best programming language which is designed to offer improve security over C++ by the way who opens a hundred tabs I'm it's because I know if I get to the point where the tabs are so small that all you can see is the icon and no letters I start to get worried that's and then they can get even smaller than that to where it's just the X it gives me all you have is the X to close that gives me way too much anxiety to get close to that I can't handle that I'm like I don't really need I can go back to this I'll reopen this one I open like penguins behind us hang with oh yeah stupid ass lockscreen right this was a really cool PC master-race right as we started the show or as we started the show the background computer just said to do windows update perfect timing so yeah Firefox Quantum check it out they have Firefox version 57 not this current edition of it but that actually kicked off back in September with the developers edition I guess there's been a big uptick in developers working with it to stop oh and apparently they're puffins not oh heavens puffins my apologies can't say anything on the internet about being correct is an egregious what does assumption this yeah shame on you call shame on you well cool all Johanson new you the new Firefox quantum yes fun alright let's talk a little bit about the internet and using its and connecting to its you have an internet service provider in Colorado there was a there was a it's it's November so there was a votes back in people voted on things last week here in the United States in a lot of places it's only 2017 so this is kind of a mid mid election so there wasn't a lot of stuff but there was some stuff but among them were some votes going on in Colorado about exempting specific counties from a state law that prevents municipal broadband deployment I know the word I want to say by the time I get to it I'm sure I will remember what the word is but yeah back in when was it 2005 Senate bill 152 was lobbied for hugely by big telecommunications companies Comcast and whatnot and it got passed and basically what it says it's like hey hey you people in Colorado you better not get with your city and start to like create a city owned municipal broadband service that provides other broadband connectivity options for their citizens you're not allowed to do that that's what come cash head that's the law that they passed okay it's lobbied for by Comcast I've got as well as well as other internet competition or but in 2005 they basically outlawed in Colorado the municipal broadband unless the county specifically goes and has a voters have to go and specifically approve to not go with that state law so on Tuesday there was a coordinated election in Colorado two counties voted on the ballot and exempted themselves from that state law yet again which increases the number since 2005 of many many counties and it's getting close to half of the counties in Colorado have exempted themselves from this Eagle County in Boulder County are the newest ones but yes this is just sort of further proof that people want to have options when it comes to connecting the Internet's options are good and if your state or if your county or your city wants to go and start a broad bands you know service for its citizens they should be it should be fine for them to do that and a big internet service provider company shouldn't go in and create laws against it so yeah it's good good job to the folks of those counties for going forward with that and yeah cool okay that's pretty much it beyond that's we talked a bit about net neutrality on the show here and there and we talked in the past few weeks or that month yeah at least a couple weeks ago about a vote that might be coming up on the restoring Internet freedom rule what is called the restoring Internet freedom rule by the FCC that's actually not gonna happen as was initially anticipated it was hinted at that it might be on November 22nd that they would have that vote which would be a typical day for them to have the vote because it's the day before Thanksgiving and Thanksgiving weekend and it's a very popular time to vote on stuff like that because people go away for Thanksgiving weekend and they forget about it so a popular time for unpopular legislation to me why not why not just on Thanksgiving because then the people who actually vote on it are like wait that I don't want to work on Thanksgiving it's a lack of dedication it is it is I mean you come on you would think that um how badly do you like the show and best friends would be willing to do that but even their soul their black soullessness but the good news at least temporarily is that that's not going to happen on November 22nd there will be a three week warning prior to the scheduled votes and if you are if you're in favor of net neutrality which according to most of the evidence I've seen most people are if you're not you work for an Internet service provider or you've been grossly misled then that's a good time to call your congressperson and let them know what you think about what the FCC is doing in the meantime the FCC has other stuff to worry about but we're not going to go into that let's talk about Roger Cordrey you heard first last week one week ago here on the on our show we broke the news that Roger Cordrey had left AMD and potentially was gonna join Intel we didn't actually break the news we pulled it up on wucf tech but Roger Cordrey it has been confirmed has left AMD or is in the process of leaving Andy and his joining Intel and that he's going there to build discrete graphics cards apparently which is gonna build some sweet graphics pretty I mean not physically build himself but he'll help design so in intelligence great graphics card yes yes that's that's right Kyle what and and I'm sure you're thinking the same thing that Ryan shrout thought when he wrote this article which was that Intel hasn't made a discrete GPUs since they introduced the i7 40 Starfighter graphics card in the late 90s great that was the first thing that popped in my mind what came to my head - yep now Ryan shares before I got into PC bill I'm sorry Josh this is a Josh Woolworths article apologies jot that Josh I don't know if you're watching our show tonight but good good throwback though there Josh I'm sorry Paul hurt you baby but yeah after Roger was made the lead of Rihanna technologies group back in 2015 their headcount was decreased and their R&D funds were decreased as AMD was putting a lot of focus and effort on the development and launched a Verizon and also the products derived there therefrom so the speculation is that perhaps Roger wasn't feeling like he had quite the support when it comes up to the launch of Vega and everything Vega had a lot of hopes pinned on it and launch itself was just not quite up to the standards that people had been expecting especially given the hype leading up to that so Vegas disappointing launch probably had multiple contributing factors its but besides that as pointed out in the article burnout had to be a big factor in Rogers decision to leave the company insulin onset on Wednesday that Raja is now the Intel chief architect and senior VP of the newly formed core and visual computing group so we might be seeing in a few years time because these do things do take time to develop discreet GPUs form Intel another quote from the article while Intel is still using AMD GPU technology and upcoming products which we're gonna talk a little bit about on Cal staff again by the way this particular higher and rearrangement of the group points to Intel being much more aggressive with not only their integrated graphics but also addressing the mid-range and high-end standalone graphics market so it would be a pretty freakin interesting situation to see a three-way day a three-way between AMD Intel and NVIDIA it kind of messy make it kind of messy more to the point though but it would be good for consumers three-way competition between all of them for graphics cards heck I don't see anything wrong with that no but yeah probably what this is though more so than Intel pushing into the gaming market although the gaming market is significant is keeping up with advances in AI machine learning and self-driving and automation technologies which are probably going to be pretty huge deals they're already pretty huge deals and their pair gonna keep being more and bigger huge deals as time goes on and we have more self-driving cars and more computers ruling our our lives and algorithms that tell us what to do Oh Joey just makes it feel safe anyway though one last story here before we close out with some johnson's silicon is getting more expensive silicon wafers more specifically the price has been going up on which is which is according to this article the prices are expected to inflate which you might which you might assume base done this the original article click here's from et news about the price of Korea IT News silicon wafer price continuing to soar so this could mean that Nvidia AMD and Intel products will increase in price as well because silicon wafer price according to this article is supposed to go up by around 20 percent in 2018 and this is one of the base fundamental materials that that chips are produced from I don't know if a 20% increase in silicon wafers will directly equate to a 20% increase in Nvidia AMD and Intel products but I don't think it could it could lead to a price increase yeah to some degree these reports come from Japanese silicon manufacturers some co s um Co this is due to a silicon shortage Simcoe provides up to two thirds of the entire world's silicon wafers and they say that due to an increase of price of silicon wafers that started from early this year Simcoe is expecting to make its biggest performance in recent ten years since the global financial crisis of 2008 so to sum up again the producer of two-thirds of the world's silicon wafers was like hey the price is going to go up by 20% by the way we're gonna make more money this year than we have since a long time strange coincidence but does it explain why there's a shortage like there is a shortage though like Simcoe is having experiencing any shortage or their job well I mean there's a it's there's a lot of demand I mean there's lots of okay products being me technically so there it seems like they're just sort of adjusting their prices based on demand yeah potentially they also say there's a shortage there's a silicon shortage okay so maybe a little bit of both yeah alright sure so yeah sure it it it is nice to be a commodity supplier we kind of had this similar discussion when it came to the DRAM DRAM crisis and that kind of thing like Samsung like oh do you grant price is a super high cuz it's been well let's crank up our production now that prices are high and we're gonna have our best our best quarter yet but the flip side to that is that silicon wafer industries are limiting themselves from making extensions of their facilities so increasing production building another Factory you might say like why don't you build another factory to make more of it because if you increase that and increase your capacity for output and then next year suddenly the demand goes down then some surplus thing yes some have a surplus the prices fall back down and you get flip X flips back the other way so bright obviously there's two sides to that but ok you know we'll see how much of an impact this actually has I guess it depends like how much GPUs will like video cards will increase in price for us depends on I feel like if silicon is worth more than 20% of what goes into a video card because I feel like if it's worth more than that then I don't know I don't know I'm saying we need a bomb cost breakdown of all the components of a basic graphics card you know I haven't looked at one of those in Wow all right we're going to it quickly yeah that's all I got for news we're gonna quickly run down some of the donation comments that have 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discussed earlier today we are faced about our catalyst really impressed with it's very some 100 although if you get like the full-size ATX board for that case it will cover up the rubber garments you'll have to probably route the cables through the openings for the modular mer drive trace see a few more bucks on the dark bass pro 900 that's a really good case yes tons of room and we're going to 99 build that would that would kind of make sense if you're cool the full tower and that's a great option yeah I mean it's it's large but it's badass yeah it's not the largest I mean it's not like a cosmos 2 or a 900 d or anything like that or they would lead or an thule ceiling back there yeah geez but yes Thank You Chuck those are good suggestions for you yeah good luck shadow plays 5 bucks hey guys can't stay for the whole stream but I wanted to thank you for inspiring me to build my first PC just waiting for Black Friday to buy you're welcome yeah that's it that's a good time you don't like the week leading up to Black Friday like oh yeah tons of deals during the we have this Black Friday gets earlier earlier every year yep all right we're doing black October black everyone's just every company's just trying to get a leg up and try to like desire it as early as black winter oh yeah January and I add our GB to everything on my PC well I get a 69% performance increase like when adding racing stripes to your car I need to know please thanks no you won't you'll actually get an 86% performance increase so I have tested this thoroughly and RGB does in fact affect performance in a very real and significant way so make sure everything you buys RGB make sure to spend extra money on all the RGB things and you don't get more frames far be it for me to call you a like way more frames dead all right panda commander $5 6700 ka just bought Izzy 270 board what exactly do I need to do for everything to run smoothly getting a graphics card that matches it yeah get an SSD get a case with 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know Dave & Buster's is like a Chucky Cheese for adults it's pretty it's family friendly Buster's its family friendly but they have like no exes okay most well I mean I don't know how many if you're in the u.s. right answer here okay you're sharing it all up in my Dave & Buster's trivia hey well have you tried their chicken wings with honey mustard I will next time because it sounds delicious sounds like a really fun job Thomas cost the third hey you're a third of something Thomas Constitution ten bucks own a 7600 K with a gigabyte Zee 270 HD three the motherboard is irritating for overclocking with Z 270 dead is it bad to buy old hardware now should I do an r5 build value wise since Zen looks to be upgradeable or coffee-like LK time MLK means so for first question you should be able to sell your Z 270 motherboard and 7600 K for a reasonable price right now they're still very viable CPU and motherboard our five build would be kind of a side grade from that so it's hard to say I mean yes you have a bit more of an upgrade path from there but I mean if you're gaming I'd say just stick with your 7600 K yeah I mean if your main concern is gaming just stick with you seventy six nine okay maybe upgrade your motherboard I wonder what he means by motherboards irritating for overclocking Z two seventy hd3 some of those Loran gigabyte motherboards they just don't have very good power delivery so you can't quite you can't really get that much out of it ability I don't I don't know I'm not positive about that specific board but yeah I mean some lower end boards they're just not as good or maybe the BIOS hasn't been updated to provide you access to a bigger BIOS locking features update your bias first I mean maybe gigabyte hasn't been updated it because it's a it's not a motherboard right but I mean if he has like the same BIOS that it shipped with or something oh yeah that could maybe some shirt yeah do a BIOS update and see if that improves your your overclocking options but yeah I mean yeah there's not a whole lot to upgrade from from a 7600 King unless you really need a lot more cores and threads or something like that so I'd say maybe consider a motherboard upgrade or just hang out for another six months or a year and see what the landscape looks like thing because the 7600 case totally fine yeah been said and five dollars hey guys bought an r5 Verizon 5 1600 X in the GTX 1070 based on your reviews and couldn't be happier with the priced performance any opinions on v1 tech the exact they make the the custom modification products those guys are awesome yeah super nice and I have always thought their work was pretty impressive I've seen their stuff I've never used and that can yeah build with this stuff I like I always talked I always like seemed at CES and he's like hey send me some stuff doing a build and I feel bad cuz I don't follow up yeah I've always seen that positive experience yeah even though I've never worked there stuff I can still I generally tend to rate or judge a company based on the people who work there and has songs like super chill yeah he's incredibly true he's a super cool guy doesn't mean he's a great business owner by default but he seems honestly seems passionate about what do you do they're just nice people yeah no definitely I'm the same way so I would give them a chance I can't hurt to try take a child even child hmm got an aggressive American tourists at what you will ever consider arrive stream of ging with their donator just with a donator I think it would be a cool getting stomped on with you guys in the pub G or another game whatever the do you know what I mean you know TV it's funny you should mention that because did we we didn't do the announcement at the beginning of they have to be no I totally blanked on that all right well we're doing it the announcements yeah did we did yeah are you black out Tuesday's I react end like that okay say about that TV though we are planning a livestream charity give that announcement yes yes that we're planning last year charity to give Jubilee Wow can we say that yeah we considered a great yeah the 9th December 9th night is a Saturday mark your calendars mark your sweat in your phone specific time it's still TBD we're gonna do we're gonna do a charity event December 9 similar to last year but a bit simpler we are going to both have come if you build your system yet your system mmm from the dirty yeah they give away I can do that there 20 minutes okay so I'm gonna do it three weeks ago Kyle and I are each building computers we're gonna have everyone will probably start it off like a few days or a week before the actual events but anyone who wants to will be able to donate we're probably about five bucks that sounds reasonable right yeah okay so five dollar donation for an entry into a drawing to win the computers that we build and the one I built is a nice one it's a it's about it that's close to $2,000 system nice I'm sure Kyle's will be not quite as good they're probably kind of see now that you've said that I am definitely gonna build a better system what I wanted to do I wanted to I wanted to go to you into making something better oh my shell yeah people will make donations read over to the drawing page and yeah you guys get to win that a pretty sweet system the one I already built as a starter for 1900 X it's got 60 gram kit it's got a GTX 970 Ti it's really solid it's it's it's my entry-level thread Ripper system but it's a really really saw I mean for entry-level with thread Ripper ease pretty high-end as it is oh yeah and heck it's got a pretty nice upgrade pass with it sexy yeah sexy cool so guys before she just said that you're into elite build you know $10,000 PC giveaway for that could you imagine that would require an auction that would have if I gave that away I could probably hit a million subs by but this week probably good I don't know how much money that many how much yeah how many does it actually hundred hundred issues oh right yeah yeah how much does that cost yeah what if you were in a situation where so I was like there was someone like kidnapped your wife it was like she's gonna die what could I possibly do B that is a movie that is a movie okay youtubers and your help moderately successful YouTube you're in a life-and-death situation okay we got sidetracked there anyway thanks BB party is easier hearty thank you for animation Australian thank you sir and that Heather Hansen my wife five dollars hi Paul I missed your side of the show I'm sorry please take my money okay give me love wifey sauce okay thank you Heather thank you for the donation never forgive her she's pure evil just kidding honey I love you can't wait to eat our leftover pizza for dinner tonight use any hungry yonis sleeps with her in the same room so this description I'm digging my own in my own bed Christopher Bristol for the five bucks loved the show guys I'd watch thank you in when I'm not restrained oh well I 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subscription I don't care I'd rather pay for it actually yeah no it's I really would like even if I was offered I would probably be like no I'm just gonna pay for it because wait pay for what floatplane yeah isn't it a subscription-based train oh I think they mean if you were to actually be one of the signs and I signed on creators yes no I'm yes that I'm saying apart from that I haven't actually gone in plane and used it and looked at the site as a video from it because I understand you know video quality and yeah yeah I'll show you for the show yes that's really nice be like what I was saying is even if like Laius or Luke was like hey Paul let's sign you up with a free thing or whatever like I'd be like no let me just you for it because oh you know situation right I think there's something being developed that I feel like is is worth people paying money for I'd rather just picture anyway or you could just ask me kindly and I'll give it to you for free or that too yeah maybe we'll go 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