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summer will and we're not even of course drinking this winter that's right we must fight the winter I can enjoy beer at all seasons alright our first segment today's show is net watch and Baywatch but let's doing this at the beginning of the show when we've only just started drinking I'm excited about that because I can hopefully discuss this subject with some degree of fluency first stop if you aren't familiar with net neutrality it's the basic concept that all of the data transferred over the Internet should be treated equally and your internet service provider whoever you pay for your connection to the Internet be it Comcast or Verizon or whatever else shouldn't be able to treat traffic from one website differently from then traffic from another website it's a pretty basic concept right now the FCC is pretty much poised to strike down with a current framework that upholds the FCC's ability to enforce net neutrality and December 14th they're actually probably going to vote to get rid of it now there's a big hubbub of course going on on the internet about that because people like net neutrality they want to keep it there is of course discussion as to how it should be enforced but our stance and the stance of most of the people who I discussed this with just after looking at the facts is that they'd rather the FCC not do what they're about to do so all that said some more details on this ongoing saga as we approach the dreaded date when they will actually do that other things that they're doing on top of these net neutrality rules is scrapping plans ordering States to scrap plans for their own net neutrality laws and this is one of those issues that's going along with net neutrality is the fact that like a lot of people would be ok with the markets like a standard market approach to this like oh you have a bunch of choices and if they do crappy things like throttling one website or the other just choose a different internet service provider the problem with over 50% of Americans is you only have one choice yeah you can't switch so if they start screwing around you really have nothing there's nothing that you're able to do which is why the customer service is so shit it's why the customer service sucks it's why internet service provider providers as larger than most hated companies in the United States and when you see the FCC going along with what Internet service providers have been doing when it comes to actually going against other the introduced introduction of competitions that's what this is so if states decide that you know once the FCC scraps the current title two rules for Internet Service Providers states might go ahead and go their own way and be like right we as a state you're going to write up some laws in the state that say you can't do this or this when it comes to treating network traffic in our state's but the FCC is saying no no no you can't do that because that's our role our role is the FCC because the Internet is nationwide is to enforce this type of thing therefore you can't do that so so you're in the position it's like well then can you enforce that neutrality like no we're gonna roll it we're gonna roll that back yeah so it's a little it's a little frustrating when you look at it this way because you're like all right like introduce a bunch introduce a bunch of rules of like force there to be competition like you Alma you always must have four choices for your internet service provider and then sure you're gonna have one that says hey we're gonna not gonna block any everything everyone's going to sign up for them and yeah that's how the market works but when you're in a situation that is due to other other reasons limited when it comes to competition then you're in the situation you have right now this is according to the article from ARS technica a victory for broadband providers that asks for widespread preemption of state laws Ajit PI's proposal or proposed to order finds that state and local laws must be preempted preempted if they conflict with the US government's policy of deregulating broadband internet service the extent to which this would take effect isn't clear it would prevent States from imposing net neutrality laws similar to the ones being repealed by the FCC so they're like okay we're repealing this nationwide and that guy can we put that back on a state level no you can't do that either but it also potentially prevents state laws related to the privacy of Internet users or other consumer protections so there's some other wide part of reaching implications of this there's further updates to sort of net neutrality and in general because Ars Technica isn't a bunch of reporting on this further down in the article for instance some other details about the rules as people looked into them a bit more clear a bit more detailed it says that they requiring I'm sorry the previous rules that required Internet service providers to disclose hidden fees and data caps getting rid of those like oh yeah Jesus the rules were like hey you know you got to tell consumers when you're gonna do like anti-consumer practices and you got to tell them how much you're going to charge them and you're going to tell them about data caps no that's not going to be enforced anymore so more more wonderful news there the FCC will relinquish its role in evaluating whether ISPs can charge competitors for data cap exemptions and will no longer oversee interconnection disputes that harm Internet service quality so these are basically things that the FCC does so that if somebody a customer says hey FCC this my internet service provider is doing things that are in conflict with the rules that breaking the rules the FCC is like oh that's not our job anymore so they're basically pushing this move to sort of create a hands-off environment at a Content EC or some different the FCC's completely hands-off and the ISPs can just run around and do whatever the fuck they want yes now this proposal does add one new requirements and this is what they're leaning on as far as their explanation of why this is okay and the new requirement is that internet service providers will have to make public disclosures if they engage in blocking or throttling of Internet contents and they will have to disclose deals to prioritize content from affiliates or content from companies that pay ISPs for priority access and make no mistake if net neutrality is overturned this is exactly what is going to happen you're gonna see throttling of Internet content you already started to see that back in anywhere from 2007-2008 to all the way up to 2015 when title 2 was made a thing or when is piece were classified its title 2 so when this happens all they gotta do is tell you disclose to you and you know how good large corporations especially Internet service providers are being perfectly clear with people about extra fees and that kind of thing so I'm sure it won't be like in fine print or something like that or you know otherwise obfuscated so it's difficult to actually determine how much money we'll be paying for your internet package which gives you access to the small slice of the internet service of the internet that your ISP wants to give you access to I mean let's just fucking move at this point no Kyle that's not the answer yeah that's not the answer it's my thank you have to stand up and fight here's another glorious thing AT&T and Comcast lawsuits which has nullified a city's broadband competition law this is in Nashville Tennessee and they had a utility pole ordinance which was invalidated by a judge this is just yesterday or today I believe and that judge was convinced by AT&T and Comcast to do so the Nashville Metro Council last year passed a one-touch make ready rule that gives Google Fiber or other new Internet service providers access to utility poles because in the past they would actually have to work with the existing incumbent providers like 18 Comcast they'd have to wait for them to send a tech out at the same time and I bet they're super excited to do that and they are probably very timely with scheduling that type of thing considering that it's assisting the competitor and getting up and running but let's face it developing competition when it comes to something like becoming an Internet service provider this is why a lot of the this goes back to the foundation of the problem which is that it doesn't make sense to go into a neighborhood and wire it up 20 different times for 22 different internet service providers they have to share some of the same utilities from time to time and how that's done can be regulated in different sorts of ways this regulation before it being overturned would let a single company make all the necessary wire adjustments on those utility poles AT&T and Comcast of course sued the judge agreed with them and now you can't do that anymore Google Fiber is rolling out service in Nashville they're offering service despite saying last year that it was waiting for access to thousands of these utility poles and this is yet another example of large incumbent Internet service providers doing everything they can to prevent competition so give us one option or another allow competition and allow it flourish or succumb to the basic rules of net neutrality and follow those rules so you're not screwing with traffic one way or another like you know there are arguments to be made it's like you know if you have a utility like compared to other utilities that are titled to look at water and power your water power company and your power company you do not tell you what to do with your water and your power they just give it to you that's basically how it should work and you know a lot of the time you only have one option for water and power but that's why it's regulated by the government is because when you only have one option the sort of capitalist system doesn't really work there hey I'm getting an amusing too many buzzwords and people going to start arguing in the comments let's move on I see Pi in the FCC you want it to be legal for Comcast to block BitTorrent this is what got him in trouble in the first place blocking BitTorrent but it's sort of been up in the air like what do they really think what's really the fundamental idea like like if you fundamentally believe net neutrality should be a thing or not like it's kind of the question I ask people when I when it when it when discussing this if they really have a full understanding of what it is if you look at the actual text of the rule that's being proposed first off the G PI makes it clear that he thinks it's a mistake for the FCC it thinks it was a mistake I mean that's pretty obvious already for the FCC to try and stop Comcast from blocking BitTorrent it back in 2008 which the FCC did that was under what's known as light touch rig the light touch regulation period and they tried to say hey you can't do that and the you know supposed to be like touch they say hey you can't do that but instead Comcast was like actually no we're gonna sue you we're gonna sue you because we don't think you're allowed to enforce this this is what kicked off the entire debates and which ended up in 2015 with net neutrality being enforced so literally part of the proposal and it's highlighted in this article from the verge the various statements that are just very clear about the 2008 Comcast BitTorrent order and that the Commission sought to enforce federal internet policy and that in 2010 the US Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit rejected the Commission's action holding that the Commission had not justified its action as valid exercise of ancillary authority that's what caused them to push for title 2 classification so the Internet freedom NPRM proposed to eliminate the internet context on standard and the non exhaustive list of factors intended a guide application that rule also saw comments on whether to keep modifier eliminates bright-line conduct and transparency rules anyway so this is just a little bit more evidence of exactly exactly the intents a veggie pie and what they're doing right now and let's round out a net watch with a little bit of actual good news you got to go global for this but India has net neutrality well they're working on they're pushing towards it according to this article they're miles ahead of the US with it's ironclad net neutrality rules that's a little bit of an overstatement if you read the article itself but the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India tra I published its recommendations for upholding that neutrality guidelines today they are pro-consumer rules that actually enforce net neutrality it's recommended that isp should adhere to the principle of non discriminatory non-discriminatory treatments of contents no blocking or throttling of content no fast lanes for content services that offer to pay for the privilege with an exclusion for content delivery networks also the agency has suggested the creation of a committee consisting of representative ISPs content providers and its consumer groups to police net neutrality violations across the country which sounds reasonable representation from the industry who's providing the service representation from the customers who are being provided that service representation from the regulators talked about things but you have a basic established set of rules that say net neutrality is part of the rulebook and that's how the internet works we should thank you so yeah the u.s. is on the verge of destroying that reality India is on the verge of making it law if you want a little bit more history from India and sort of what the what's going on as far as them and the Internet in general a couple years back 2015-2016 Facebook was trying to go into India and provide them with free internet suck when in there is like hey India I am I'm suck Facebook suck let's give you let's give you Internet India we're gonna invest a bunch of money and infrastructure and give India Internet but it wasn't gonna be the internet it was gonna be Facebook and Facebook it's basically the Facebook Internet is what was gonna be accessed yeah Facebook provided so there was a lot of argument about that and people saying like oh it's a good thing they're gonna provide internet to more people but ultimately you can't have internet that's just solely controlled by a single a single company right like that it's just too much control over it and when that is the the pipe that's providing the information to people there's just too many ways that it can be corrupted and abused so yeah there you go you suck suck yeah you suck Zak what do you suck off if you guys are interested in doing something if you are voting age granted if you're below voting age speak out spread information be positive tweet it be understanding talk to people explain things don't yell at them don't get good don't get angry don't don't go after as you PI's kids apparently there's like some people go after his kid don't do that that's gonna really know what's oh oh shit you're talking to my kids all right fine net neutrality here you go that's garbage that's never gonna work just be reason don't be a baby wannabes let me civilize this stuff but anyway can kill observe will go to bow for the Netcom and there's a pretty good collection of information you can enter your name and email address and stuff and it will put you in contact with your representative so you can get in touch with let them know how you feel about the issue there's also a link to a whitehouse.gov petition that's being signed right now called do not repeal net neutrality currently that's about two hundred thirty thousand signatures it only needed a hundred K but go sign this anyways because we want to get as many cigs on there as possible so big empowers would be hopefully know that this is something that people feel strongly about all right let's move on geez thank you thank you now that we're all depressed for X Paula this is real for City go through my first segments which I was trying to get the kind of more serious stuff out of the way so we can move on let's talk about I need infinite beer this is supposed to be cryptocurrency but I don't have a lot of thirds for it so we're just calling us win that's just good but we're talking about good to all winners is this because this was the existing it's lower there was a what existing lower thirds that was there that I was like that that kind of applies sure play here's our winners okay say if you got a bunch of bitcoins you're rolling rolling the dough breaking it in Bitcoin is just just teasing teasing $10,000 hey hitting actually wait no right guys guys 10,000 right now I dollars thank you very much you've heard it here first as of like an hour or hour and a half ago was at ninety nine fifteen we have cracked ten thousand dollars everyone everyone go by like 30 we have do we have a thing we can do we're balloons fall down I'm working on the confession there up with the balloons an asylum that comes in there will be a whole system yes ten that reason thousands Wow Wow what was it was it's like a year ago let's let's take let's take a quick look here like a thousand ah jumping around but see as from my understanding the more people who are mining the to actually gain market share of Bitcoin so please sorry no no what what are you saying I was saying like the isn't the way that the system works is the more people who are mining the more difficult it is to actually mine more coin is that correct yeah well they difficulty increases increase yeah it becomes more more complex right as as coins remind so does that mean as the value goes up the and people are mining more you can't actually mine as much per per period of time it means that the amount of mining power that you need to actually do something grows more and more so so you'll be mining less but if you'd never upgrade your hardware or something like that never increase the power efficiency you'll be mining less and less and less as the popularity of mining in zoos is due to the due to the fact that for Bitcoin first off it's the most popular cryptocurrency and the most of all but also there's tons of Asics that have been developed so there's tons of coin mining machines that are very power efficient that have been produced that and that's what's used to my Bitcoin like right mining Bitcoin on anything besides something like that really isn't practical at all you know you're not gonna make money because you won't be you won't be paying for your electricity cost or the cost of your hard work that's why they have likes a giant like global groups right like Bitcoin mining groups yes yes so typically what people do now is they mine altcoins other types of coins and then they usually trade that for Bitcoin and then they can cash out the Bitcoin or do something like that or they'll use Ceph software that has a bunch of different coin mining mining algorithms and the software will look at currents pressure market prices and I believe like the the mining power of your system and then we'll we'll mine whatever is most most profitable yeah so that's another there Yap support you but yeah you guys right over here first I'm sure this is no nowhere else has this been discussed yet it looks like as of universal standard time what is that 1:30 UTC on Wednesday November 29th Universal Time that's yeah add spinach its Greenwich Mean Time hold low roll gets its time from Greenwich Greenwich gets its time from Admiral boom all right yeah ten thousand forty three it looks like who's gonna peep that it's currently sitting at ten thousand forty one see you all your bitcoins there I believe I saw something somewhere about some guy who at the beginning of this year said if Bitcoin hit 10k he was gonna like chop his balls off and eat him or something like this there was some insane thing like that but that guy's gonna have to do that now I wish I knew I wish I knew more specifically what that was but I just said where's the gold mask that should have been right here in cryptocurrency I did see that Elon Musk talking about crypt about Bitcoin and somebody asked him about it and he said oh there was speculation that he was the actual greeter of Bitcoin which is just you know kind of crazy conspiracy theory but yeah he said he said he had like part of a Bitcoin at one point but he doesn't know where it is anymore like he lost it yeah so that kind of made me think like how many people lose bitcoins well interestingly enough one fortune nearly 4 million bitcoins have been lost forever 4 million bitcoins times $10,000 holy crap that's a lot of market cap day so yeah this little chart kind of shows bitcoins that are out of circulation as far as doing due to being out of circulation original coins that apparently are all gone now coins lost you to buy buying and selling then of the coins mining in 9 - 2017 how many are gone so an interesting little church three point seven nine million bitcoins are already gone based on a highest estimate three two point seven eight million based on at low one so 17 to 23 percent of existing bitcoins are lost I thought it was kind of interesting how the research which comes from a company called chain alysus actually goes down because you know if you're trying to figure out about lost bitcoins how do you how do you actually figure that out yeah so a spokesperson shared some certain details about how they assist with how bitcoins are lost and important clue comes when there is a fork in the blockchain such as one the summer which led to the creation of a Bitcoin clone known as Bitcoin cash such events can lead to the owners of wallets who have been inactive for years to conduct a transaction as that transfer potentially happens providing an opportunity for statistical analysis so even though you might have a Bitcoin wallet from like years back that hasn't been touched or anything done with and you don't know is that lost did whoever owned that Bitcoin wallet lose the information and they don't have the the code for it anymore and they they just can't access it so that's gone or do they have it and they know about it and they're watching this is like man I'm gonna sit on this and eventually I'm gonna do something with it so that's part of how they get some this data to determine how many bitcoins are actually lost interesting getting a ping from those wallets helps figure out the biggest source of a certain uncertainty as to whether they're lost or just being hoarded now if you are into coin mining your crypto currency which I'm not really to be clear here good some discussing it here why is there we so come out of your house I have a reasonable understanding of this is Allah which I wouldn't necessarily call myself an expert oh yeah there is a theory that I actually am a hardcore miner about that Paul's a closet miner if that was true I would be more excited about Bitcoin hating 10k but what's gonna happen next is your good actor who knows this is why I don't play the stock market really first off a negative story bubble fears stoked by a spike in buy bitcoin with credit card searches which is never a good thing um you should never have people who are like man I gotta get me into this Bitcoin how do i buy some bitcoins on my credit card that's that's not good that's a signal that it's it's it's a little bit people were a little overzealous about how valuable these things are and potentially a sign that it's a bubble people over valuing it which could potentially lead to a crash yeah or or Bitcoin could easily hit forty thousand dollars by the end of 2018 whole forty thousand dollars that is almost that is a lot more than what its of worth right now that's four times worth I was made a stupid joke uh yeah but yeah this hedge fund manager manager Michael Novogratz who's a apparently super hotshot hedge fund manager but he's got lots of money he actually suppose yeah he's he's fairly well known for my understanding but uh he said Bitcoin could be at forty thousand dollars by the end of 2018 it easily could I don't know what he's backing this up on I'm sure his incredible knowledge of the market and whatever here's a video on fortune I mean the websites called fortune go there make money aetherium incidentally also hit these which is the second largest publicly traded cryptocurrency by market cap hit a record-high four hundred ninety three dollars and forty cents on Monday which is down a little bit now to 476 also Bitcoin has dropped six dollars from one a little over a thousand forty dollars down to one thousand thirty four dollars everyone sell your bitcoins let's move on that's next the heck is next in security security oh boy alright let's talk about some security subjects thanks this is gonna be exciting first off Intel has found what they're calling severe bugs in the secretive management engine which is affecting millions z net has has a video here I'm gonna play on that it's something to look at yeah this is a based on an investigation by third-party researchers and to their hidden firmware known as management engine which is often used in corporate environments for your your IT to remote into your system and that kind of thing but it has very low-level access to the system there's actually a separate coprocessor on systems that have Intel management enabled that handles it that operates separately completely from like your main processor and your operating system they discovered these bugs after maxim gorky and marc amiel of from the security firm positive technologies found a critical vulnerability in the management and management engine firmware the Intel NASA says would allow an attacker with local access to execute arbitrary code and since again it runs on that separate code processor that runs a completely separate from your processor or your operating system it means it's invisible to your CPU and any anti-malware software that you might have so this is a pretty serious and probably especially in the corporate space is going to lead to some some information security issues in 2018 it's a good thing they caught that before anybody did victims reported attacks right I think it's a it's like I feel like when when this type of thing comes out it's like it probably already happened like then you know yeah they could just be being quiet as to not encourage people but they don't want to let everyone know how it actually is yeah all right do any of you guys have a Mercedes that has you don't oh really that has keyless start like you don't have like all you have to do is get in the car with the key fob and they push a button I didn't know they could do that really I mean I did okay I'm emphasizing how sometimes I'm not sure but yeah here's a story from the UK across the pond our Mercedes relay box or a relay box was used to steal this Mercedes in Solihull it's a relay buck so these two dudes come operate there's a Mercedes a balloon post one guy takes this box and he goes up by the front door and he starts waving it around basically he's getting closer to the door where the key fob is yeah picking up a signal the the relatively weak signal transmits up so I'm not transmitting it over to this dude in one minute walks up does that gets into the car starts up the car they take off car still hasn't been found what so yeah so he's using a relay yeah what does a relay box usually used for besides stealing cars I mean if you look at it from a basic stamp like look at it like a like a Wi-Fi extender or something like that it's like something that can take a signal pick it up and then repeat it okay you know two different reaction so yeah it's so using its repeater amplify the signal from the key fob and that's genius I'm gonna steal like a hundred cars get in the car yeah now what I'm not sure about it's like it must it must also duplicate that signal somehow because like if you get out of a car that you started with that it'll you should be like hey the keys not in yeah the car's gonna turn off or something like that so they that's pretty fancy though it reminds me of like the gun in 60 seconds or something like that but yeah yeah what you already do after they after they stop the car and then they don't have the father anymore I don't know I mean you're talking about I don't know what kind of Mercedes these is but usually just ladies is gonna be sixty to a hundred plus thousand dollars so yeah they probably have some sort of thing that they go through to like yeah I don't know I don't like I feel like something like this is the cars like tainted right it's reported as stolen right VIN or whatever that's flagged so I don't know is there some black market where you can get really cheap Mercedes's as long as you never get pulled over and listen is much more viable than Bitcoin mining yeah that's probably I am out why I brought it up I'm gonna try that encourage people good good alternative in smaller variable alright so I'll give it a shot face ID is a new way to unlock your phone with the iPhone X and there's been various we talked we've talked here about some various efforts to crack it because there's it does I don't know I I feel like it's gone back and forth but um there's a there's a a ten-year-old who's a spitting image of his mom wait really yeah oh and ten-year-old is therefore being pretty similar yeah I mean apparently similar enough for the iPhone excitation teacher he the phone is locked algorithm isn't she like specific enough she looks at it and it unlocks she's gonna lock it again she's gonna hand it to the kid are they a part of a company organization it's just like mom and sawdust I figure it's like just a random YouTube video by a lifter mom and son have found this out I was a kid takes the phone he looks at it and it unlocks what any damage that he dabs right after what a perfect way to end the video there was an year-old Debs after unlocking mom's iPhone with face ID he got a lot of he got several extra internet points for the bed but there you go so a face ID not completely foolproof who knows how practical this is when it comes to like you know if you have a target and you need to get their iPhone X in a market like if you're an evil person or a thief or something which I assume there's not many of watching our show I don't know why I'm describe it this way but Siri it seems less practical for something like that but definitely something you should keep in mind if you're say a mom or a dad and you think your phone is safe with your kid cuz yeah they look like you a lot of family resemblance you made the only you created your own vulnerability how's that feel feels good lock them up and throw them in a closet so good for a minute all right that's for plowing through it today we're a little bit late so I'm trying and I'm trying to just you and great just one happens only nine fifteen ten you guys with the information firehose this is nine fifteen Wow look into my bed late wrong o'clock all right so we got just some standard tech news here yes moving out to the regular neutrality all right let's talk about some pcs they're still exciting stuff to discuss here we starting with some leaks about Intel's eighth generation and ninth the generation CPU lists so like this is basically this came from a night at sixty four update itis 64 had a late of latest beta that went out and had a bunch of information about or just that you know the the specs for these CPUs that were compatible with and included a big old list so it was kind of leaked by them yeah in the notes actually in the reference notes okay of all these Intel CPUs so yeah a number of them were announced they are expected to launch in early 2018 there's a core i3 Core i5 and core i7 CPU listed as well as a core high nine eight 8950 HK 8950 HK where it where is that HK let's see that here that's two letters mmm the end of the skew silly anyway it's that's not a Mosel I don't know what tech spots talking about here but yeah it's a mobile processor so it is their first coffee like I nine CPU but it is for laptops um but who knows the actual core count on that one so yeah the list has quite a few excuse they're pointing out here for example the copy lake right now that we're on which is eight to jen is 14 nanometer plus plus they had a tick than a talk than a talk than a talk from broad well this guy like to Cabul a copy like the canon leak and yeah I guess this process was process architecture fine I forgive us sorry anyway point is cannon Lake is supposed to be 10 nanometre it's supposed to be the actual dye shrink so there talk to the process shrink we've been with so so yeah the question right now is when they're talking eighths gen do they mean cannon Lake and when they're talking ninth gen do they mean ice Lake are they gonna call are they gonna keep calling coffee like 8th gen and they're gonna call cannon Lake ninth gen not really sure also some confusion regarding the actual dates that they talked about because they said they will officially launch cannon lake before the end of 2018 but they also said that volume production is slated for the second half of 2018 but there's discussion about some of these CPUs coming out at the beginning of 2018 so what's going on we're not really sure interest I'll hopefully we'll find out soon I'm sure there's gonna be some stuff at CES that's that's likely but there's no mention of based on turbo clocks the current 8th gen core desktop lineup so the stuffs not right now it goes up to 4.7 gigahertz so a reasonable expectation that it will be in that ballpark but I noticed like we got an 86 50k here which is perhaps some sort of in between like a 8600 k+ or maybe without the graphics integrated it has same timers that's what they do with the 50s sometimes a 50 skews done I've graphics I noticed the T here so you got some low-power ones there's a B and 8500 B what is what's with the B have you seen Abby before I don't think so I bet I bet there is a be out there and I just haven't seen it 8400 B yeah I noticed if you just look at the ones on the end like TT thb HDTV it looks like it's like in Calvin and Hobbes or whatever one goes just the raspberry so your raspberry yeah exactly nice very nice generation list has a I 3 9000 i 390 109 390 300 I 594 hundred ninety five hundred and eighty six hundred and if you're thinking like where's the seven hundreds a good question our next story from hot hardware talks about the i7 9700 k ninth gen mainstream flagship cpu with eight cores and 16 threads this was sort of derivative from that massive leak at i-264 thing but then there is a Chinese language website I don't know which one apparently apparently that counts for all of them a Chinese language website was able to dig up some additional information after speaking with motherboard manufacturers in Taiwan in addition to the abundance of chips already untapped Intel it's also prepping a new flagship ninth generation Core 9sq so the quinine 9700 K is a mainstream SKU with 8 cores and 16 threads on the mainstream platform so it was like I wonder where they got the ideas like it's an industry 8 Corp 16 thread ship it took until how many years to go from quad-core like when did they well even from like dual core 2 quad core and how long do they have car was like 2007 or 2008 and I feel like that went eight a decade in fact they went eight years where they're like no quad core quad core is all you can do and then now now AMD's like hey we're back oh man oh six core Oh 8 quart like oh like within anyway yeah it's basically overnight in the grand scheme of things yeah for competition look at that dude so I mean it's got a question is is everyone gonna suddenly switch over to delivering those paper to court like in 8 corinne everyone everyone has to no I don't think so I don't think so I mean it's still it's probably gonna have better single core performance single-threaded performance then rising well question going back to that shirt it's still not clear if it's gonna be 10 min 10 nanometre right and if it does shrink 10 that nanometer like there's I don't know there's all those questions area like heat dissipation can can be an issue when it when it comes to the process shrink like that and so yes difficult to speculate too far but um that that is it is a jump that they've been leading up to for a while going from 14 to 10 so I think that could potentially that plus the kick in the pants from AMD I don't know it could be fun to see what they're able to do if it is 10 nanometer eight cores because 10 nanometer would would definitely make it a bit more power efficient yeah she would also make the chips run cooler and I feel like even though right now like a six core you know coffee like CPU it is technically faster and a better gaming chip than a Verizon equivalent at the same time it's gonna run hotter and you have to buy a better cooler to cool it because it's not as power efficient yeah they clock higher but you know that's just you know that's gonna cause more heat issues and then you've got you're basically locked into buying a Z motherboard for X amount of money that's gonna be X amount more expensive than an equivalent be 350 board where you know the offers cheaper boards that also support overclocking and you know they have lower skis that support SMT and stuff so it's it's interesting to see them going kind of different directions you know what I mean it's gonna be interesting to see what the market prioritizes or what they really want do they want the faster chip but are willing to spend more for the motherboard and overclocking ability and and cooling or are they gonna go for a little bit maybe less performance but you know overall a cheaper experience and you know better better performance per watt I would say and then we've got rising to on the horizon there's a lot of unanswered questions but I don't feel like you know pure power is is enough anymore like just having the pure speed is no longer enough to to sway the consumers one way or another there's so many other factors that AMD is hitting so hard and they're crushing Intel over even though Intel has the better chip or the faster chip I should say there's also someone doing things above us right now it's very distracting but and then yields is another thing like is is Intel gonna try to rush the ninth gen launch just like they did with coffee lake and then all of a sudden you're not gonna have any supply to meet your demand and then that's gonna increase the MS or the MSRP is gonna go way up through the roof and no one's gonna be able to buy them anyway or won't be willing to pay out the ass for a ninth gentian so true truly there are many variables to consider and it comes but I think all things considered I'm happy that 2018 it looks like after like the craziness that was in 2017 it looks like both AMD and Intel are sort of regrouping and winding up it's like launch more products in 2018 and like sort of ramp ups the competitiveness like you said Zen too we're expecting a follow-up there and yeah but I think if Intel can take a 10 nanometer eight core 16 thread you know little LGA 1151 CPU and make it reasonably power efficient and have frequencies they're in the same range targeting was coffee like right now I think they'll sell a lot of those because I think I you know especially for gaming for gaming and mixed use systems I think that'll be a popular option but yeah we'll see what the next year has in store should be funk alright so the next story I don't have any notes on but I wanted to mention briefly briefly it's a strange it's a strange situation going on right now with YouTube because on the one hand you have the ad pocalypse thing going on or ad pocalypse 2.0 with people getting their videos perfectly legitimate completely family-friendly and not offensive videos that it get flagged for limited ads they their flag does not family-friendly there's a ton of tech people who we talked to who have been having that have happen all the time hardware unboxed among others Al's our studio does our studio or science to do no science to the science to you Joker productions I believe has had several of those happen to him as well so a really crappy thing especially for anyone who's kind of trying to make a living on the YouTube or anyone who's anyone who's just investing a lot of time yeah it sucks to have even when you're getting started it sucks to have even that little bit of feedback and a little bit of cash back yeah for your your efforts to suddenly just be gone and then you have the option of like alright do I just shut my video off you know or just leave it and get whatever trickle comes through there yeah so anyway point being right now there's all of these weird videos going on that are aimed at children and YouTube is apparently trying to crack down on them and brands have actually been pulling been pulling their ads can fix your confectionary maker Mondelez little Mars and other consumer goods producers have pulled advertising from YouTube after Britain's Times newspaper found the video sharing site showing clips of scantily clad children long side ads of major brands wait what's the name of the site YouTube oh wait so youtubers show okay okay yes so it's really weird but there was another segment I've only just barely like glanced at some stories talking about this but they're really creepy some of them are like like poorly done animations but they like they're it's kids content but like it's all just super messed up and like some of it's like borderline pedophile type like garbage and it's just it's but apparently there's some of them that just managed to slip through the cracks and if you can get onto the the suggested feed for like little kids who are just watching video after video and can't distinguish one video here with Peppa Pig in it from the follow up one that's just some crazy bad thing like that's pretty messed up so I wanted to briefly mention it when I first put this article in I was planning on doing a little bit more recent research into it but all the other stuffs I talked about today took up a little bit more of my time but it is also a weird contrast just to see that there are just like effed up channels doing this kind of thing that somehow do have monetize videos that are getting that kinds of views when at the same time you have the nonsense going on with the limited limited add videos happening to people who have consistent consistently been making concept that has that is in no way offensive to advertisers or anything like that so right that's pretty messed up but we'll see we'll see how YouTube goes forward as far as dealing with this and maybe bring you guys an update further down the line alright last story here for any guys who use cell phones and hate the battery life Samsung potentially has a fancy new upgrade a new thing they've been working on here using graphene and batteries to charge five times faster so it's described as a graphene ball and the article kind of describes it and I wasn't really sure by then talking about penny little graphene balls that make it coating or whether it's like one ball of graphene the batteries inside I don't know so here I'm related to graphite no I mean there may other both made of atoms report the report was published by Nature it says enos it says that Samsung's advanced Institute of Technology has been working with graphene to both increased battery capacity and drastically reduced returned recharge times they used the material to create a graphene ball a special coating that's used inside typical lithium ion battery so it's like what's the ball have to do with it why is it specifically ball shaped this is where I'm confused this is all diffusion hmm they're natural natural shape yes I'm involved Samsung has got a lot of balls doing what they're doing I think a lot of graphene azoles that's that's the main point here but reportedly this increases battery capacity by as much as 45% and increases the speed of charging by five times Wow yeah so you could possibly charge your phone from zero to 100% in like less than twenty minutes that's great and once it's charged with last 45 percent longer you might actually be able to go like two days without charging your phone or something like that that'd be pretty cool also the batteries with this new technology still hold a charge retention of 78% even after 500 total charge cycles also quite nice knowing that your battery's life isn't going to deteriorate over time at least not significantly but yeah I don't know why it's a graphene ball that's no the articles I Darren Lee I was expecting there to be some sort of do we do we get a picture of the graphing ball do we know what the graphing Baldwin imagine like intelligent do you know it's hopes and little ball bearings that that like roll like there's a phone and sitting there and all the ball bearings roll up onto the table and kind of creepily roll up to the phone and then jump invade it like somehow they just get sucked into it on the phone and it has a phone like at first like doesn't want it to happen but then after it and it resists it and then it becomes more powerful though it's like oh and yet some but somehow it be also it's evil after that that's and that's where you get the Galaxy Note for some reason that's what's blowing up in people's faces galaxy s 9 yeah 20 days of battery life graphene ball per charge per every five minute chart Hey I mean thanks balls it improves the battery life and totally cool and all that I'll dip my balls in it I will - all investing what why did my bullshit game right now you probably I don't know you remember that no it's probably best that the state the state no there was a guy and that was this capsule and that's what he would say I want to dip money had these balls and say well what the hell you've been watching it suck what kind of programming do not share your playlist with me not interested I bet this yeah the state Thank You Humboldt DF humble DF remembers okay homogeneous as asking how the truck the trucks great I drew over here today it's not so great driving in traffic but it's it's do loves my trucks nice oh yeah are we doing donations so let's answer these questions Alice cheers first I'm catching the show live I want to upgrade my GTX 970 and I was wondering if I could get a 1070 CI or a 1080 depends on the price there Chris if you can find a very discounted and low-priced 1080 I would say go for that it is but faster yeah then again the 1070 API which cheaper which can be had for $450 is typically a good fifty dollars less and when overclocked is around the same ballpark at the 1080 so uh yeah I would go with honestly I would go to ten seventy TI because neither of them can really in my opinion take on 4k with 100% confidence you need a 1080i for that so you're pretty much limited to 2560 by 1440 or 3440 by 1440 ultra wide in that case the 1070 the gtx 1070 that I was using for awhile is phenomenal for those resolutions the 1070 Ti is gonna be even better and you're gonna be able to push you know 100 frames per second on most games with a 1070 TI so just save yourself a little bit of money and pocket the rest or put it towards something else in your build I think that n7 you guys be my choice if you're really so much older and don't worry when you're talking to your friends and you're like like what you get in there I got since 70 today and they're like that's cool you're like doesn't you be like yeah you wasted money the better you have less money than I do now dang thank you Chris he's got scandal expense we you guys have good things giving should I get pub G Battlefront 2 or Call of Duty World War 2 did you have a good Thanksgiving I did I did good food delicious I like two things I made a pie and that was good - I ate a pie I was made it was delicious yeah Scott Pope gee I think G I mean it's a lot of fuckin battlefront - it's like fun don't get bail if you call of duty yeah these are just my opinions of those so just keep I mean bow for us - definitely not just a statement - EA cuz his station they effed it all up and that's where we're mad at them like it should be a fun exciting Star Wars game to play and EA was just like no we want to shit out so yeah don't get that pub G's the least amount of money most a lot of fun it's very very it's very playable yeah you can replay it I mean it better be because way more team based than any of those games I don't care Call of Duty Battlefront - yeah you're on a team but are you really are you really you're really just a bunch of faceless dudes running out there on your own hoping to get the most kills you're competing against each other whereas in a game like pub G you're actually talking to friends you're you're you're competing against other groups of fuckers and it's it's a blast I'll fucking find a group of like three or four dudes get pub G it's totally worth it jujubee's $10 hello been a while building my dad a slim mini rising build while watching your show right now total price four hundred and twenty dollars blaze it from Black Friday shopping woop that is a great price for your face I'm sure you snag some pretty hot deals on Black Friday so congratulations for that sounds like you're on three I'm sure your dad is gonna be super happy yeah it's definitely gonna be rising three I did a $500 rise in three build for Black Friday myself you can go ahead and check that out shameless plug but I hope one of our cakes are using a slim mini raisin build hmm there's a few options yeah definitely a few options there but doesn't there's any question attached to here so I'll just say congrats congrats Panda command a $5 say I rebuilt my custom loop in a case with better air flow same hardware no overclocked running ten to fifteen degrees hotter any clue as to why that might be happening my guess would be if it's a custom loop that you me probably have something going on when it comes to the pressure between your blocks I'm guessing you're talking about CPU here but maybe GPU as well maybe maybe the pressure the block is mounted with you might have contact there but not enough contact to actually push down and spread the thermal place properly so you're getting functional but not low temperatures beyond that I mean I assume you know stuff like the pump not functioning properly or something like that might be an issue but yeah if you have better air flow you should definitely not be that much have that much of a difference in temperature and all things else considered that's the main thing I could see that would suddenly cause that to happen yeah because other than that like it would have to be like you overclocked more cranked a bunch of voltage or something like that yeah we we need more information be really sure did you put water did you add water yeah that's nearly Fred rained 50 bucks oh my god Alice can more than one corsair fan RGB LED controller and six port RGB LED hub be used on a single computer if so is there a max number you should know this yeah you can definitely put six port RGB LED hub for a single computer why not and then one Corsair fan RGB let's see if can use more than one you can use more than one controller yeah you can use is there max so it's six if you're talking about the l series RGB fans you can connect up to six of those fans to a single commander Pro to my knowledge you can have multiple commander pros connected to one motherboard which is exactly what I'm planning to do for the elite build so better work so it better fucking work and look at it the elite build right now but there's no I don't see a reason why it wouldn't I don't think Corsair would limit themselves to like this is a huge launch this huge product for them the rakin and serious dough from these fans like 50 bucks our fan they're not gonna limit you to six freaking fans in one system they understand that people have radiators too cool bro with like push-pull configurations so you definitely fit in more than one controller in there but to that work well my guess my guess would be that there is some sort of maximum to that based on what the software is capable of that kind or that kind of thing we don't know that though yeah but Corsair would I would I would hit them up on Twitter perhaps or something like that see if they can give you an answer if you're really looking to like to do some crazy maxed out thing or yeah you're like plug those in and have other stuff connected to it externally or something like that people people like to be to do that kind of thing you cannot wait to see what what pops up in my part 3 video of the we build see what happens there uh see me ciao baby for the final I'd give it to you every week every week I'll give you the five powers because I have our important thing to say ever very very very important thing thank you I have a grandfather's no heart eyes and grandfather unlimited praying or he's grandfathered into the premise with the Verizon okay okay not so not sure if they actually throttle me or not but I abuse the hair out of it with my seed box with the box of seed box uh I don't know I mean I've seen that term before a lot of use man it probably means he's got something set into the phone I don't call them stuff off of it with this unlimited plan but yeah I'm pretty sure they do throttle you at a certain point some of the ISPs have it listed they'll say like hey you have unlimited but if you use more than 30 gigs at a month then you know we'll start to cut you off yes price they do that and they set it at a point where very very specifically only the people who are like abusing it are gonna be affected like if you have something connected to it that's just constantly downloading in a fashion that most people wouldn't typically use their phone for around so yeah they're probably throttling you somehow but yeah you got to take advantage of that your father plan till then don't let him talk you out of that they're trying to talk everyone out of those stay strong Pete Jacobi Park I'm sorry Jacob uh six cents no beer for me enjoying a goldmine sarsaparilla instead is that root beer it looks like it sounds like root beer sarsaparilla I don't know is this sarsaparilla root beer what I don't like keep associating root beer with sarsaparilla I think I've heard like sarsaparilla root beer before but that could be something completely different sarsaparilla we're not from whatever part of town you drink sarsaparilla in but can you guys check out my 1950s it's a soft drink made from the smile X or not a plant I smile at sometimes he'll smile with artificial flavors not even sure no I can be mildly alcoholic but I'm not sure all right well enjoy your sarsaparilla I better that your your oh it I've had view remaining sarsaparilla it's the goldmine sarsaparilla okay but it doesn't look like it's alcoholic for him oh no no maybe it is alcoholic it's just not beer it's not considered beer I don't know the helis def is in recent times is sometimes considered to be a type of root beer ha ha ha ha see I wasn't crazy not really available in most countries many pubs and most major supermarket chains in the Philippines Taiwan Malaysia and Australia stock sarsaparilla flavored soft drink I mostly remember from the Big Lebowski sarsaparilla yeah it's like what do you say no no I'm what am I talking about Big Lebowski I'm time to back to the future Back to the Future 3 Oh doc when doc goes in a career really yeah i-i've watched 1,000 times in 3 like twice after after uh doc breaks up with his girlfriend and he goes into the end of the pub and the bartender is like you know do you like whatever he usually drinks this is you know some non-alcoholic thing is like nah man need something stronger than I used a sarsaparilla it's like whiskey in a sec are you sure have it I don't know why I remember the scenes wait you've got a sarsaparilla whiskey no no the bartender was suggesting sarsaparilla is a little stronger ah I see and then he and anyone's whiskey yeah and then he sits there but he doesn't drink it the whole Welsh Amy shit I got the fucking didn't both his sarsaparilla and Big Lebowski two maybe maybe you accidentally Sioux City sarsaparilla I was right Siouxsie Sioux City sarsaparilla oh thank you thank you all right get back to me yeah yeah yeah he does drink that doesn't he right all right okay okay sorry about the why we really brief Segway engine uh Jacob no that was Jacob we just talked about hop Shepherd $10 love the show was always playing Mass Effect but I wanted to have a comment read for some reason my subs are exploding since two weeks I was at 460 now at 474 damn anyway have fun and in he'll exploit Judy's intentions on the new sub you freeze congratulations for your success yes yep hold on here we go fall up up Shepard on Twitter yep Brian Webb five dollars and 55 cents have some money because I love your content thank you Brian and now you don't have any money we love your money ah and holy and you $5 I'm upgrading from phenom 1090 T for gaming with a gtx 1070 at 114 40 60 Hertz is the price difference of an 80 700 K over a 1700 ex worth it no yes I mean you've got you've got different applications here I would say if you if you if you're considering people talking you know something if you're good sitting if you're considering doing a lot of work station stuff or anything that's going to use a lot all those cores and threads on the 1700 action of then I would say that makes more sense if gaming is strictly your focus then the 8700 came might make sense you're looking at let's say you're hitting into arisin 7 1700 that's 270 bucks versus well over $400 so that's about a hundred and one hundred and forty ish dollar difference right now so not to mention what a hundred and fifty four Z or Z it's a pretty significant booth but if you want the best gaming option right now and you got to buy it next to as these 370 board - so bear that in mind yeah I'm just saying I'm just saying like I don't want to I don't tell someone who gets an 87 under K like oh you shouldn't have done that or like whatever like yes there are more cost-effective out I'll tell Matt but yeah I'll tell them the truth they don't want to hear I will say I like the 8700 K a lot more at 370 or 380 dollars that I've only for 15 then it makes a lot more sense yeah Zarda is easier an Australian Australian that no comment Australian people thanks Mike thank you sir price right here for your terrible Australian accent I decided to offend you for your worse Zachary memory I only got one $25 haven't forgot about y'all's shiner Woori november/december are a bit of a time crunch in the car 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detuned 30 yes if your question seems to be should you update the boughs the answer is yes yeah with rising systems because there have been updates to the microcode and the seat not just the bios not just the UEFI that you're learning to the motherboard but also the microcode and the CPU itself and that that can help things that can have compatibility so the answer is yes update your bios always update your BIOS um modern motherboards they almost always have some sort of failover or backup for that kind of thing and that's a lot easier to do now than it was you know ten years ago so yeah update your boss Richard you five dollars Paul was it intentional that you answered a Twitter question from Eric shun on your probing Paul no what what what did I do what is damn it is it cuz it's Eric Shen like erection erection no did you not catch that the oldest trick in the book Paul you see that yes well erection that is awesome man you know you know what's even funnier though is the way I found out about the one that one specifically is that there was a kid at my high school his name was legitimately Eric shin well there you go Eric shit that's that's action I'm glad because I've grown up in Southern California and there's lots of there's lots of pockets of Asian communities and that kind of thing around here so it's very common it didn't strike me as something that it's not like a normal name so yeah Richard no I really that's holy son but thank you now I realize that I said another one to look out for Paul is a Mike as someone mentioned in chat Mike Mike Mike Mike hunt Mike hunt my God knows every cunt there's also Mike ox long my cocks long yeah actually there was a kid in my Spanish class in high school he was like a total d gen he like wrote on his Spanish test the his name was Mike GOG swing so as that as a teacher was passing out the test he's like all right Kyle Kyle Hanson I'd be like here Jenni Jenni here Mike my cocks long my cocks long there's like straight up from Simpsons right where the guy answers as the bar my cocks long and then like you just see this one kid in class just like penny I need him I need a man to hug a man to hug I see if you can find me a man good all right guys play with my girlfriend Oh interesting name by BIOS I use msi sli plus x99 motherboard running a 1080 in sli in the first and fifth slot is this correct have that motherboard but seems not you're probably okay I mean probably compete but if we're facing is available depending on the actual PCI Express slot so what you're gonna want to look at is is the the motherboard manual for your ms is li+ and just see what actual how many channel how many PC Express connections you have going to each slot if you're a by 8 slot then you're fine if your top slot your top slot is almost going to be by 16 if that other slot and the fifth slot you're connecting to is a by 8 or by 16 then you're golden if it's by 4 then yeah I would want to move I would want to move that to a by a by 8 thanks for the question bath medic craftman 5 dollars how many RGB strips can you daisy chained to a fan Tex p400 RGB controller it depends on the controllers the amount of voltage of the color the controller is providing in my experience I've plugged up to like 6 LED strips and daisy chain them together you might start to have the the brightness drop off a little bit yeah but specifically that fantex controller I'm not positive I would say 2 to 3 and honestly in the p400 2 to 3 should be all you need because it's not a huge case you can wrap fully around with with two strips probably to 30 or 60 centimeter strips Christopher wolf $5 I have an i7 4770k just picked up a GTX 1080 GeForce GTX super clock so yeah do I need an upgrade is the new RAM or processor worth it playing pub G a lot now you're fine yeah very like very nice completely something over Clarke your 4770k a little a little bit if you if you if you have the desire you should be able to hit you know like before you should be able to hit for 64.6 well it depends on your cooler I guess yeah you should be able to well for for is what it just runs that I think great so but whatever you should be able hit for six maybe for seven or eight depending on your CPU but yeah that's actually very nice combo they knives for $5 to tight mix Maxwell's for 4k 60 Hertz keep them or sell them for 1080i or suit entities and some extra cash also thoughts on EVGA for the win air-cooled versus hybrid all right to tight mix Maxwell's for 4k 60 Hertz I would say keep those because those are those really nice cards um yeah and two of them two of them right now for 4k 60 B okay right I mean the 1080i cuz you're not gonna get to 1080 T eyes if you're upgrading to to 1080 eyes then I'd say that would be a decent boost and a little bit more GPU performance but I'd say for now you're probably okay ed wait til the next generation don't agree to that or something like that unless you plan to swap out those monitors when 4k 120 Hertz becomes available I need more on that on Kyle's after the show salmon goes to ten bucks hey guys I have an FX 8320 and looking to upgrade but I'm in college and have a really small budget what would be the best upgrade path for me budget of sub $400 rising 3 yeah I mean Rison is the best platform to invest in it ten fifty if you need a budget option with an upgrade path yeah you can get yourself be 350 motherboard for seventy to eighty dollars you can get yourself a rising three quad core for a hundred bucks you can get a six core for closer to two hundred but yeah it's nice because you can get that that quad that quad core for like pretty cheap and make sure you get a reasonably decent be 350 board if you go that route and like we can't promise this but everything we've been told in our expectations right now and what AMD has promised about am for as a platform is they're gonna keep it until 2020 so if Zen to stuff launches this year it's everything we've been told indicates that it should slot into that so it does seem to be the most viable path for a viable platform for a future upgrade viability as well as budget yeah I I also did post a $400 PC builds a couple maybe of in September back in September you can go ahead and check that out it might help you out yep have you moving on J Everett with the $15 wait no sorry David cat away wait five Australian farmers really love your content lads I have an x 34 predator plus a 6600 K and a gtx 980ti is my cpu bottlenecking my GP only in probably rare situations problem advantage but honestly even the a 700 K could potentially bottle like that card it's just too fast but you have to put it in situations that lead to a bottleneck and with the editor X 30 for you at 34 40 by 1440 you're not gonna run into that situation very often so I'd say your 6600 K is is good market if you want David just just because you're on that platform and you've got a pretty nice setup as is just keep an eye out maybe set up some deal alerts or whatever for 6700 K and 7700 KS and if you find one for like a really good deal then maybe maybe invest in that but only if it's a really good deal but yeah as those as they say clear on inventory of those CPUs you might be able to find some J right 15 bucks just joining stream love you guys Vega 56 partner cards one nods for before Christmas two nods for q1 2018 three nods for just give up and buy a 1080 TIA or a 1070 yeah like yeah wait are you talking about partner cards on your half at all no I saw one like it was a power color power cards got one XFX has issues has yeah whenever they launch expensive in their heart they're available at MSRP it's for like a day and the price jacks up it's not like it's crazy high like it was like a hundred two hundred dollars more but it's still 40 50 bucks higher than MSRP yeah and that just leaves a bad taste in your mouth you like what yeah I'm giving these people 50 extra bucks because of you know supply issues stupid economic basic economics yes but yeah yeah I mean right now it's still hard to to recommend to Vega 56 in particular if it's more than four hundred to four hundred and twenty H dollars yeah GTX 10 series check that out the chill out Baghdad $7.50 Canadian yeah 50 Canadian ha it's not hey guys just wondering if you could give my friend Brian a happy shut up for this weekend happy barrel a happy birthday rain happy birthday Cheers cheese to your birthday I'm gonna drink more beer now because of your birthday mm-hmm love birthday drinking Russell I sell $20 new GPU thoughts for present to myself I got an r r7 1800 X a Norris a X 370 k 7 RM 850 X G scale flare X 2400 16 gigabyte other parts of Pororo Britt is a gtx 1080i overkill or am i ready to rock alright wrestle um first stuff yet I would say yes a 1080i wood would be perfectly appropriate for your system yeah second thing I would say man I didn't know they made flare X kits that were 2400 but yeah maybe consider your faster man yeah definitely um because these kids you three I like I like my rise in systems to be running at 29 33 if not 3200 you did get some nice boost in performance at that and particularly in gaming remember remember that the frequency of your memory affects how the the Infinity fabric works even if any fabric clicks at the same speed as your memory so increasing your memory speed is important there so pretty tasty i yes i would consider swapping that flex kit for a 3000 or at 3200 kit if you can find something reasonably priced because man the memory prices suck right now yeah I do Sasa lipstick Peter Peter Peter Walker Peter why five dollars new to both channels enjoy watching your builds two favorite youtubers now thank yours obviously moving to mesh if I case while watching stream keep it up guys beautiful yeah mesh if I see is awesome yeah it's a nice portable case I mean very happy tons of tons of mesh obviously at the front very good airflow send us d kqk 50/50 deep Dixie Dixie with the DK 56 it's the most valuable currency dicks worth upgrading to an 8700 Danish Krone Danish Kroners same thing eighty-seven worth is it worth upgrading to an 80 700 K from a 3770k I did take the chance on an asus strix z 370 F motherboard quite cheaply on Black Friday already was like 35 percent of and then comment gets cut off but I yes pretty good that's a pretty good bump I say yes because very gentle course bumped from Ivybridge it's you've already got your z 370 board so that's not a question like sometimes it's like what anything so when someone's like should I invest in coffee like you always have to say all right well you're gonna get an Uzi 370 board and there's a reasonable set of them available but um yeah you've already got the board so I'd say yeah do it 700 hundred can you do it you can probably sell that 3770k for a pretty penny too does it not in production anymore sometimes they go get some cash back for that yeah all right are Clardy within a ten dollar donation rise and I'm gonna read this one do it fire it off thousand five fifteen hundreds as Rock x-37b I wonder which one 16 gigs of g.skill to buy eight thirty two hundred speed and the GTX 1070 TI decent build for workstation running multiple VMs as well as like gaming ESO hmm yeah I mean yeah that's pretty nice I don't think I mean next to me 70 Ford yeah I would say your ex 370 might have been a little overkill but but I will say they actually so many boards if you're gonna overclock tend to be better at that they tend to have a little bit higher and power delivery configurations on them and your 1500 X if you're running multiple VRMs err I'm sorry volt multiple VMs I would definitely keep the upgrade to like a 1700 in mind cuz that would be a very nice boost there yeah all in all though I think you have a very nice configuration 3200 speed memory ya think you're looking good and yeah keep the keep an eye on our seven seventeen hundreds that'd be a nice upgrade for you need or hold out for Zen to total rage 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