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Awesome Hardware #0133-A: Titan V for Volta, Radeon Software Adrenalin, Patreon Sucks Now

2017-12-12
if it doesn't then that's your fault you should not I don't know cool all right and a few brief moments we should also be live to YouTube and glorious glorious day yes all right there we go cool we're live hi everyone and welcome this is awesome hard work every Tuesday evening it's a live show what happens to extreme it's a twitch TV slash awesome hardware we also stream it to YouTube right now we're streaming to my half the first half of episode number 133 I hear on December December the 12th of 2017 so the first task would be on my channel Paul Sarver second half is going to be on Kyle's channel which is known as bit wit and the link to that should be in the description if I ever get around to updating it beyond that I put your link in my description just saying thank you I yours was their little late today but still let's go didn't ever go we were I was I was late to anyway point being we're gonna be streaming for about an hour on this half we're gonna talk about technology we're 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wasn't any requirement to enter the giveaways we also decided to make Kyle's be a one-day giveaway so we actually gave his system away that day we picked the winner at the end of the livestream yep my giveaway that was still ongoing so if you guys want to check out the link in the description and you can see the entry page here I'm giving away the entry level thread Ripper PC it's a 1900 X and inner max liquitex CPU cooler Nasdaq x2 99 Taichi motherboard 16 gig Corsair memory kit ice and it's actually not a sandesh it's a 250 gig SSD basically and then it's a ZOTAC 1070 TI graphics card a Franklin metruff icy case coarser on a 50 I parts play another nice system and you can enter three ways one is just clicking the link to go over to the entry page to where we're accepting donations these are still open so if you guys want to submit a donation still it's going to Children's Hospital of Los Angeles we broke ten thousand dollars in in funds raised your Children's Hospital of Los Angeles in session we were super stoked on and we thanks to all any of you guys who are there don't participate we got the badge the un-freakin'-believable badge right there oh cool yeah yeah super sweet achievement unlocked so yeah it was a lot of fun though we hope to do again and thanks to the guys who were part of it and if you didn't get a chance to enter in the giveaway that's still open you can enter by going to that page and by subscribing each of our channels and that giveaways still open I think until Sunday this week so I feel free to go ahead that beautiful that's all for our our announcements we are going to move into the first segment net watch and we're gonna talk briefly about net neutrality I've talked a lot about net neutrality because it's very important I'm gonna try to go through these really quickly though because I know some people just heard about a lot they've already heard they know what it is and everything to move on but there's a few ongoing developments for it so I wanted to hit on them real quick and of course the big thing actually the biggest thing is that net neutrality FCC is probably probably going to be repealing the net neutrality rules in two days on December 14th that's what everyone's expecting because that's what they keep saying they're gonna do despite most people or at least the vast majority of people from what we can tell not wanting it to happen including a bunch of tech luminaries including of course the wasps right there Wow it's just much of people who have who either operate currently or were very instrumental in the developments of the internet or other areas of technology and I'm gonna apologize if I pronounced mispronounced any of these names but Steve Belvin is the former FTC chief technologist to help develop Usenet Tim berners-lee is the inventor of the world wide web Vinton Cerf who co-created the Internet's tcpip protocol Steve Crocker helped develop the protocols for internet prepare for the ARPANET Stephen wolf who helped transform the military ARPANET into a civilian research and communications network Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak of course Mozilla founder an executive chair woman Mitchell Baker Internet Archive founder Brewster Kahle and beta works CEO John Borthwick all have sort of put in their their feelings about this and they all feel that's this net neutrality vote that's about to happen is an imminent threat to the Internet as we know it so that's why a lot of people are in up in arms a G PI is the currents chairperson of the FCC he's kind of been spearheading this whole thing that they're doing right now that a lot of people are kind of upset about and he keeps seeing he keeps bringing up stuff that isn't necessarily true and that's often demonstrably false hmm it seems out of character for him yeah and most recently was his supposed phone calls that he had and we're not saying that the phone calls are false but I need you to press release about five small ISPs that he says we're harmed by the rules and that's the the stance that trying to take is that the net neutrality protections that were introduced in 2015 are harming people are harming a small is Pisa but there's no data offered to support it so the advocacy group Free Press looked the FCC's broadband deployment data for these companies found that four of them had expanded into new territory and then the fifth didn't expand into new areas but it didn't start offering gigabit internet service and all this happened in the past two years during title 2 tech net neutrality rules so just seems very disingenuous and false which is just continuing I guess par for the course for G pi because he seems to be encouraged doing a lot of misleading of people there is a congressman who's doing a last-ditch effort to save net neutrality his name is Sean Patrick Maloney he's a Democrat House of Representatives rep from New York he's introduced the save net neutrality Act HR four five eight five and the house to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce he did this just in the past week unfortunately this is largely a symbolic gesture and because although this would be congressional action to prevent the FCC from doing what it's about to do it would have to somehow get on the floor for a vote tomorrow which it bites according to the article there might be a vote in the house tomorrow evening then we have to also pass the Senate and have Trump sign it all before the vote on Thursday which is not very likely at all each but anyway some people are trying to do what they can to prevent this from happening if you'd like to do what you can you can go to battle for the Netcom I can enter your information there and you call can contact your representatives and let just let them know how you feel about the open Internet and mayorality we feel it should be protected you can also go and sign the petition at whitehouse.gov/champions about two hundred fifty thousand signatures already reached the goal but feel free to add your seat to that as well okay I hope that was a quick rundown of nationality stuff oh one last thing if you want even more on that I did a in depth net neutrality video with Windle just this past week and it's just a few videos back on my channel so thanks to you guys who have been speaking out about that because we like the Internet we think it's best that the internet be open for everyone to use and we would prefer that the Internet service providers who were forced to sign up with especially those of us who don't have more than one choice for one would prefer that they're not able to to kind of choose what we have easier access to and not yeah all right early on and we're just gonna jump straight into news I have a bunch of sort of random news so it's all just been grouped together in one in one big blob sweet cool with me I'm abandoning abandoning our segments all structure is falling falling out the window well cool then what do we got up first something about hacking I guess I could call it mini segments mini Singh each article is a segment so nice nice hash last week it turns out apparently has been hacked this was actually on Wednesday which is a Bitcoin mine last week we've talked about about nice nice hash before it's it's it's a sort of a marketplace it's it puts people who have mining power together with people who want to pay money for that mining power so gotcha you put your system on nice hash and then the software chooses what cryptocurrency your system mines based on the marketplace that they developed nice late Wednesday night last week appears well it depends on what time zone you're in I guess but attackers access the company systems at 118 CET that's a little past midnight GMT by a few hours later they the hackers who the company believes were based outside the European Union had begun stealing Bitcoin and in fact stole all the Bitcoin what from nice and all nice hash from Bitcoin gone 4,700 bitcoins to be specific which is quite a lot that special if you consider the current what's that like it's over 10,000 now right you haven't been Cuban an addict why it's like a 20,000 huh I don't know what piqued a bit was I know I remember hearing 18 I don't keep up with it much because I don't mind it and I don't want to be tempted to mine grating it continue going up right now according to google it is 17 749 so yeah almost about a Tina which would mean holy crap it's definitely over 9000 that's for sure so what does that matter it's that now supporting seven forty seven hundred eighty seven hundred Bitcoin is at least right now is eighty three million dollars oh my god for two million dollars I mean we had to have seen this coming with a digital currency right and just how this is not this is not I mean there's there there have been cryptocurrency related websites and services that have been hacked before this is definitely not the first time what happened oh yeah in fact this has to be one of the is this the biggest heist it's like crypto money like eighty five million I can't say that for sure just off the top of my head but it's also one of those things that is it's relative to the price right now the price has gone so up so fast yeah that um you know it can make things sound more impressive because you can see that goes 83 million dollars or whatever like that yeah I mean at the time of the writing of this article they said eighty million dollars worth so but yeah that sucks for anyone who was using nice hash and who had a balance there there are reports that nice hash users will be reimbursed and mr. COBOL Marco COBOL who is the chief executive at NIOSH has after a bit of sort of freaked out silence when things started appears to have gone wrong has spoken out about it there is an article on tweak town which I didn't want to load up on your computer because I don't want tweak town's website using your system to do cryptocurrency mining please because I'm sorry but that's what they're doing I know every time I go to tweet town oh yeah yeah the fans spin up and everything like that and you know that's really you know they're all about cryptid it's actually really shitty so anyway but tweak town has an article that says nice hash is supposed to be is it there it says they're gonna reimburse everyone who knows if that's actually going to happen or not but the article I linked us from BBC and at the end of the article there are other recent controversies involving digital currency including the firm behind digital currency tether who said it close to 31 millions worth worth of its tokens was stolen the code bug in aetherium digital wallets blamed last month for freezing more than 150 million dollars worth of cerium you're either South Korean exchange bit hum says that one of its employees pcs had been hacked in June several customers reported follow-up scam calls and stuff anyway Association download anti minor extension to stop mining on your rig okay sure that was bound to happen and I'm glad someone's working on a solution for that for web sites that are choosing to do that it's a called anti minor anti minor I bet it's just a program that actually mines your computer it'd be nice it'd be nice if like this also seems like something like pro like the Chrome and Firefox should implement it's just block like a nice accident doesn't does that seem like a legitimate use of adblock mind block right next to adblock you'll have 9 block everyone go download that fictional extension you're just good all up site and you get all the popups a sec hey we have cookies and you know we're gonna spy on you let us know your location give us access to mine on your system and no how about no sign up and sign up for our newsletter that's just ridiculous yeah alright so I do that I get involved I know since these are kind of mini segments and I really mini segments and I'm making this up as I go along I didn't make a straw poll so we can do a brief ask the audience here Kyle even though it's not technically a segment yep but we're gonna do a quick ask the audience and if you guys want to vote in our quick straw poll I'm kind of curious how many of you guys are actually involved in this little Bitcoin thing so how many guys have the bitcoins the question is do you have Bitcoin just waiting to be stolen no not at all less than 1 1 to 10 10 to 100 100 plus or maybe you don't have a Bitcoin but you've got some other cryptocurrency going on so I think that should cover just about everybody but we'll come back to this in just a minute and Kyle and I will guess what you guys what your answers are it's gonna be epic 1 million let's move on NVIDIA just this past week announced and immediately launched was like the announcements launch mints immediately both things and I believe even Titan Bolton Titan B we're gonna be the views for Volta Moo and a few people have gotten their hands on it so far it doesn't seem as far as I can tell like Nvidia really did any sampling of this because I believe gave yours Nexus either bought this no or isn't anybody got that they get on Twitter with some bits be trippin yes too low still all right well Paul does that I just copy it from here yeah I just copied it from there so that's got to be just steal our beer gifted to us by our friend John John was like you guys have this beer but it's only for you not for headache I specifically remember we can't really say that because Heather was also further there's a strawpoll again it definitely works I just loaded up good so uh makes my wife you sauce everyone why the delay is weird okay so what was I talking about Titan the Titan V boot yes Titan V it's pretty crazy it's $3,000 boobs is how much they are charging for it and I believe gamers Nexus has the most like actual hands-on coverage with this so far I think they're trolling yeah there's actual white vsauce guys do not troll the wife anyway they test the 3d mark times 30 mark times but on its they also did a little bit of overclocking you can see some of the charts here the only thing that was kind of hanging anywhere close to it in some situations was vegas vegas 64 in crossfire situations and then they were looking a little bit more specifically at some of the underlying graphics tests not just overall score and stuff like that and if you guys want a bit more depth so if you haven't already watched it check out Steve's video where he does a much better job of explaining all this stuff now the Titan okay I'm really hoping that was just an isolated incident and is that one sorry no I mean I've never seen I've never seen you actually come down with that it happens very rarely comedy does happen patting your beer I don't know I took like a small sip of Heather's beer and I suddenly got a hiccup and hopefully it goes away okay yeah the link doesn't work I don't know what to tell you guys go to strop doesn't I took a quick I just looked at the results in the results are there so they're getting in people yeah one four six zero nine five four six justjust go type that in the shuffle yeah anyway specs are pretty crazy it's got 12 gigs of HP m2 memory 21 point 1 billion transistors on the GV 100 GPU and it's got 5,000 120 CUDA cores 640 tensor cores the tensor cores are for deep learning and AI specifically so that's what this card is all about it is it is a workstation card it can do some gaming and Steve's benchmarking was there trying to start to tease out what Volta is capable of because of also of course the darker texture will be implemented in other GPUs mainstream GPS it will all be able to get our hands on hopefully for less than $3,000 so there's definitely some interesting stuff to look at even though this card isn't necessarily practical for most people what was it what was it like 20 to 25 percent faster than a 1080i is what I was saying if you're looking strictly at the gaming performance gaming if you look if you look at it like scaling the like teraflops how many I forget what the teraflop number was it has like 11 pair of lobster yeah 10 11 something like that if you look at that and you look at the price of like a Titan XP it kind of scales like it's almost like you can be like well I guess that's why they charged $3,000 for it right so you know there's some if if if you want to take the stance of an Nvidia marketing or sales rep and as far as why they think it's worth $3,000 there is some argument to be made there sure I guess is what is what we're saying they also did some doom did you overclock megahertz offset and the first page of the article they they did the chart where they do their overclock stepping so they start with the GPU and they crank the clop speed up a little bit at a time and eventually they start to hit artifacts or driver crash or whatever so and that they were able to get up to upper 1700s a little 1800s and then they moved over to the memory crank that up from it starts at 850 megahertz they were able to get it up to about thousand 26 I believe before they started doing some artifacts but the doesn't seem like they were able to top off the GPU overclock so they're heading around 1927 Peak 1830 he looks like 1875 1830s so mid 1800s as far as actual average court clock so you know a decent amount of overclocking capability and even a nice little little bump on the hpm to memory there as well nice and it did also show some performance gains as well 1.7 gigabits per second HP on to memory 3072 bit bus the bandwidth on the HBM memory is just insane 653 gigabytes per second and then card overall has a Turner 50 watt TDP 180 pin in one six pin power PCI Express graphics power connector and again $3,000 I don't know that everyone got by Ted Bolton it's the that's the just just take that $3,000 you have lying around in your house that's spare 3 grand put it to something useful invest in Volta yeah I'm I'm expecting at least three of them to arrive extra I get a shipping thing because I think I think of video sending me like a you know Christmas you know I send that little Christmas Ange thing yeah but it's like I got the notification Isaac that's what's in what are these enemy oh is it is it one of the Star Wars edition 1080 th now it's a Christmas ornament Christmas or you know would be it maybe it's like a mini what if it's a mini Titan V like as an ornament but it like the shipping it says like the tracking says like tell like it actually and you get it exactly just the ornament of I would be kind of disappoint gonna be a dick move in video thanks for the ornament that hey it's very thoughtful of them to send a nice know it is Christmas that much more thought alright timing-wise the volta launch may or may not have been specifically intended to squash am DS news for this weekend who knows but AMD has just launched Radeon software adrenaline drill n so if you haven't been following the way AMD does their their driver updates over the past three years since ran technologies group became a thing they do yearly big updates so we they were using Radian software crimson for the past year so we've been using Radeon software adrenalin is the follow-up to that it is named after the adrenaline rose random in case you were wondering didn't even know there was a rose named adrenaline Ted bit yeah there is a full interview with Scott Watson and mr. branch out over here on PC percent perspective in the article actually Scott Watson also came out and talked to me about this a little bit although I didn't think I did I did make a video this video I'm making on it right now here you go there's two things that you may may be most interested as far as new features that are introduced the Radeon overlay is one of them so that this is kind of kind of cool I don't know why can't I see this image there's the overlay sort of so it's an on screen display thing that you can pull up while you're in game you can use a hotkey pulls it up allows you to access graphics card monitoring tools as well as driver settings without having to leave the game or do alt tab and you can see here it's got access to Radian relive performance monitoring Radeon chill Radeon frame rate target control free sync and color which is which is pretty useful so color adjustments that you do with this for example can change the way the game appears to you but if you're doing screen cap or streaming or something like that it won't change the way the game appears to other people so you can set for instance Dimitri Herbert connects to the video on this on this to and to meet you said like if you want to make it really warm so you get less eye fatigue for example you can do that but it's not necessarily gonna affect the the capture that kind of thing right also gives you access to just stuff a little bit easier like reading on chill which is something that seems like a cool feature but maybe not something that lots of people have actually Chili's been around before but they've enhanced it and they've added compatibility with a bunch of new games which is useful but it's a power saving feature so if you're playing a game and the software can tell that there's not a lot of movement and not a lot of change and the screen going on during the game it'll down clock the graphics card we're able to you know it'll maintain the framerate and everything but it down clocks a card actually doesn't maintain the framerate but you you see no difference right uses less power yeah that's the upshot I'm not doing a good job of describing that no yeah I got you but a cool feature if you are concerned about your power usage or even in a situation like maybe you you know most graphics cards will now throw the limb selves a little bit once they start to get too warm so something like that can keep your card from getting too warm and then maybe even get yourself a little bit of more performance out of it as well check that out I should check out some Radeon chill yeseo it does I have not had any hands-on experience with it yet yeah you can also do a performance overlay with it so you can turn on performance monitoring and show some in-game metrics and stuff like that so you can show framerate and GPU usage and that kind of thing it is limited in the layout configuration Dimitri said you couldn't actually move stuff around so again I kind of gotta go with the layout that they put but still you know a nice feature to have something that lots of people like to use if you want to play the game but also keep an eye on your system performance at the same time there is also an app so that's the second sort of probably thing that people might be most interested may or may not who knows it's called AMD link it's compatible with iOS as well as Android I believe and basically gives you a connection between your smartphone the app and your computer and access to the same tools that you would have access via to via the software yeah it allows you to monitor control Radeon software use a QR code to activate it via a Wi-Fi connection and Ryan said that the interface is clean and that they thought it was pretty decent there isn't much in the way of performance increases with this launch this is more of a feature set update yeah and sort of also you know than them just continuing to update the overall capabilities of the Radeon software can do so Radeon software adrenalin is what you'll be hearing about updates to this year I heard there was a big push with like social media integration with it to know there's some social media integration with it but then in Dimitri's video he said it wasn't actually functioning properly so wasn't a whole lot to speak to there but yeah you can use it for instance to stream to YouTube or to stream to twitch for example but that is something that might need a little bit more perhaps a little bit more polish I'll say framing target control is kind of a cool function you can use it's in a situation again this is kind of a power saving type feature if you're playing a game that doesn't necessarily need to run it a hundred and forty-four frames per second if you're playing like you know I don't know civilization or just a game that you don't need that really fast update of every single frame turn our frame rate target control you can tell it where you want to cap your frame rate at and it's actually a better solution than vsync so it's a little bit more flexible and again good for saving so they go cool Radeon software adrenalin anyone who has AMD graphics cards should get it a couple more things talked about I'm feeling my half is going to be a little on the short side today but it's okay some updates from some at synaptics they have announced the world's first in display fingerprint sensor they say it's going to launch with a top-five quote-unquote smartphone om so there's that like Apple and LG who else everyone will know top 5 smartphone oh yet oh oh yeah Samsung LG oh yeah Samsung Apple Google now I would say yeah I guess that's they're supposed to be manufacturing I don't know if they still qualify as a manufacturer but one plus it's one plus a manufacturer yeah you have to look at market share and stuff like that but yeah point is it's you touch the you have to fingerprint sensor and it's part of the screen that's that's the point okay watch this there we go look see that's how it works so instead of having to put a fingerprint sensor somewhere on the actual phone somewhere separate or whatever it would be cool if you could if it was just an area if instead of just like a single spot on your screen like it looks like it is there if it was just like the lower the lower third of your entire phone screen is a giant fingerprint sensor so it doesn't really matter if you if you pull your phone out with your left or right hand you just you know place it in a general area to unlock it I'd be cool yeah it says it integrates say otherwise what's the point complete security stack with AES encryption a variety of authentication features but it does seem to be it is localized it's something that's situated underneath the display glass so it would it wouldn't put the button underneath wouldn't it wouldn't be like I can just put my finger anywhere on screen to unlock like cuz that would be useful that'd be pretty that'd be pretty easy to like wherever you're at just enroll your thumb and you just put your thumb on your screen right yeah that would be that would be cool be pretty nice but yeah it doesn't seem like it works like that so so it's axe lame what's the benefit I guess just just saving space I imagine saving space yeah cuz you gonna need the electronics for the button on the back or whatever makes sense but yet it could end up in all sorts of phones in 2018 given the hints here they wouldn't be surprised at the Samsung Galaxy S 9 was one of the first they said the galaxy s 8 mounted fingerprint sensor debacle might be leading to that and possibly something that Samsung might want to put out there to show that they've taken things to the next level there we go synaptics all right we we have quite a few friends who make youtube videos and a lot of them we have friends are suffering right yeah we have to reinforce that yeah a lot of them are suffering right now under the the authoritarian authoritarian heel of YouTube D monetization rampant YouTube D monetization so this story is maybe potentially possibly about an answer to that again potentially possibly and also this story is one that's appeared a few different places phrased a few different ways the TechCrunch I guess had to update their article or at least did update their title because they're not hiring ten thousands content moderators they're increasing their content moderation and enforcement staff head counts to ten thousand what are they at now I don't know 9950 I mean if they've already got nine thousand and they're upping it to ten then it's it's not that big yeah they said you to reach out to clarify its hiring numbers this team includes a mix of different specialists working on these issues majority who are content reviewers but the number also includes other policy specialists who review and take action on content engineers build building and refining the machine learning technologies and policy specialists training our machine learning algorithms so this mean that there are actually real people watching our YouTube videos and either flagging them or like unflagging them after room after like personally reviewing well the though it doesn't seem like there's any real person at YouTube the way of the way it works it works for channels that are above a certain number of subscribers is that they have to like if it gets flagged then they can they can apply for manual review yeah and then someone looks at it and then they say it's okay usually like from what I've heard if there's nothing wrong with it right that's when someone actually looks at it I see yeah I was unaware that it was actually a real person looking at it but yeah I guess that would make sense yeah I mean from my understanding but that makes sense yeah yeah there's there's no there's no real way to be sure right now what's causing the automatic D monetization in the first place whether it's something that's just like oh all of these channels all of their videos they just automatically demonetised right or whether it's something to do with the channel history or keywords or something in the description or add it like who knows yeah it's just just googled AI and it does what it wants now but it sucks you have to hope that if they are actually increasing headcount an enforcement staff it seems like they have no other choice but to do that because they have to hit some kind of balance between supporting the content creators who are making content to go on the website because if they don't have that content then they don't draw viewers the viewers of what they need because the viewers your eyeballs are what they sell to the advertisers right and that's how they make the money but the advertisers don't want your eyeballs watching their ads if it's right before a video that's offensive in some way sure which isn't unreasonable it's why we had the whole ad pocalypse earlier this year yes and this is sort of the ongoing fallout from that so it does seem like you know you you need that human intelligence at some level to like look at things and be like oh this is these are Hardware unboxed texts these are the benchmark videos steve has never uttered unda monetized you know a bad word in his life as far as we can tell it's and and yeah like that I don't know stuff like that so hopefully this helps I guess that's that's all we can always say about this and I guess somewhat good news that it seems like they are have you ever watched a hardware inboxed video to the very end though I'd imagine like after that's where he puts in all that takes yeah after like five minutes of like just black silence it's probably just probably cuts to Steve like yeah all the outtakes she was like ma just like beating his kids you know just like shoving his wife out the window and stuff that's I never I never I never stay for that it's what it's like when you read it already Channel in Australia hey you know Aussies he's got to pay the bills somehow he's pretty hardcore if it makes sense make sense should be a safe a shame to yourself Steve speaking of content creators on YouTube what's your what's your I haven't wanted to get your opinion on this whole patreon thing Kyle ah yes I mean well honestly hit it abandoning give it up it seems kind of sketchy to me it it definitely seems like a cash grab on patreon side I don't know it's like they're solving one problem and creating another because I guess the whole deal was we're trying to give like patreon as a company they're trying to give more money back to the Creator but in doing that they're actually charging a 35 a 35 percent service fee for all the patrons so now the patrons are getting screwed so even if you're a dollar patron I'm only paying a buck because that's all I can afford because I'm a you know a student in college or high school or whatever this is their chart by the way they're just their chart look how much more money the creators make well it's kind of chart though but that's gonna suck if because like your dollar your dollar donations does it's like many small donations are kind of the bread and butter for patreon right like that that's what you want to get cuz you're not gonna get a ton of people who are all gonna be willing to donate 50 or 100 hundred bucks a month it's just it's not gonna happen right so the dollar donations is where it's at in this new situation it's 35 cents per per fee yeah and it's also dinging people who who have multiple patrons there who patronize patronize who are patrons creators who are patrons of multiple creators so whereas before if you had ten creators and you gave them each a dollar yeah now you would get charged ten bucks and it'd be a single transaction fee now you're getting charged a transaction fee for every single one of those it's an additional three bucks fifty right yeah so now your ten dollar donation now is thirteen fifty now something yeah which is a lot you put the or is it there's 30 or you're ten dollar donation now only like seven dollars of that is going towards the patrons and then three dollars of that is going towards towards patreon oh yeah maybe that's it yeah so but either way either way yeah and it's um I kind of see the sort of way that patreon is doing it is like they're they're charging a flat percentage rate the service fee is just a flat 35% for what I know so that means like if you're like $100 and I get way they're doing it it's to cover the transaction fees because transaction fees are royal pain in the ass they're literally like robbery and that's why you see like when you go to restaurants or like liquor stores they have a minimum if you're gonna use a credit card it's a $5 minimum because we're getting charged out the ass just for you swiping that thing and patreon is like holy we have so like this community is built off of one dollar donors or one dollar patrons and we're losing a ton of that money from just from transaction fees so let's charge them a flat 35% rate but the thing is is like there are a lot of other patrons who are paying who are donate donating more than that dough they're donating $100 $50 $20 but yet they're still being charged to my knowledge the same 35% rate which is gonna be covering more way more than their transaction fee right if you're donating $100 to your favorite creator the transaction fee is not going to be 35% it's not gonna be $35 so basically patreon that's that's extra money that's just floating there that now patreon gets to pocket so I feel like this is sort of a way for them to you increase their their revenue very sneakily by sort of marketing it as well we really care about the creators and that's why we're doing this so I mean III can't say for sure but it seems that's the way it's going and it you know obviously it's not the best plan because people are dropping left and right from the platform first the patrons are dropping because they're like no I'm not gonna pay a dollar 35 when I was paying you know on multiple accounts on to multiple creators and then the patrons then the creators right according to this under the current system if you pledge $1 you pay a dollar what's the change takes place if you pledge $1 you pay a buck 38 okay buck 38 okay yeah so that's right I mean great granite and granted that's looking at the worst case scenario of a dollar of $1 pledge right but dollar pledges are often like like those are those are key like the a dollar pledge is something that is is is tenable is something that like an individual who is not you know independently wealthy or something like that could afford yeah to like give a little something to a creator that they admire and they appreciate the work their work of right but you know yeah so so people are saying it's actually 35 cents not 35 percent 35 cents so that that actually makes a difference I was saying percentage I was thickest fee I said if I said if that's correct not saying that I admitted the truth it is a two point nine percent service fee plus 35 cent charge per transaction okay but this I mean this is the same the same thing that I said still applies just not maybe as great of a scale but still if you're if you're paying 20 bucks 50 bucks to a creator you're still getting that 2.9 percent is going to more than cover whatever transaction fee is attached to that donation and it's still the remainder is still being populated by patreon so it's like yeah creators are winning now if you don't include all the patrons that just dropped from the platform completely but the company's kind of winning too and I think that's also what this is about so it just seems a little a little sketchy like it doesn't seem wholly transparent and what what patreon is plan in all of this and what their motive is in all of this so this half true there being half honest the new the new service fee changes go into effect on 18th so week from yesterday and you know we'll we'll keep an eye on it we'll see we'll see if the patreon is able to maintain its popularity despite these changes or if this is the type of thing people see as just a little too much of an overreach given that they are ok I mean they're definitely the most popular patreon like what is like what is the patreon like what they is is that like there are there are patreon patreon alternatives and they're still playing and there's definitely patience and and there's definitely patreon alternatives who should be seriously considering you know making a push right now that the patreon is suffering from some some some bad press but that's what I'm saying is it sucks for patreon to have gotten so popular for so many people to have joined it and been like wow look at this site and you know what it's doing for creators and their ability to make a living off of what they do and stuff like that and then for them to go and change stuff in a way that looks like they're just trying to kind of get more money out of out of the process Brandon and I think a lot of it has to do or some of it at least has to do with the fact that they were just like a bunch of venture capitalists came in with patreon recently right and they evaluated the company at like four hundred plus million dollars which I guess would put a lot of pressure on patreon to to up their up their revenue and stuff so I feel like they they're feeling a lot of pressure right now from all these venture capitalists that are dumping loads of money into the into their company but I mean well we could matter no we could talk about capitalism but instead capitalism capitalism is depressing but instead let's move on let's move on to selling our products by the way did you ever do we ever circle back to the Bitcoin mining survey no I didn't okay I feel bad about that everyone said that the link didn't work so no it definitely work saying - do I need any new beer though yes that's it what would you like I guess I guess I guess to break into my popcorn see the dirty mayor which is a citizen cider that sounds good a cider cider this guy which is the alchemist tea of the alchemists in Vermont which is heady and topper it's 8% I don't know it's an American double IPA they see ginger cider mosaic which looks like it's five point five so it's probably a lighter beer okay so I'm kind of interested in this cider actually honestly it take the cider I'm sure it's good ingredients 100% locally sourced apple cider ginger lemon peel that's all you know I like ciders care who knows it's I'm a cider fan naturally gluten free not to be confused with spider fan so again going back to our little straw poll our ask the audience raffle do you have the bitcoins you have all the Bitcoin that we what do you think here wait where do you think our audience will land what will be the number one answer are any of these answers like cop-out answers that I can't choose or can I choose any of them no you can go with any of them they're all perfectly legitimate just either I have none at all I have less than 1 1 to 10 10 to 100 100 plus or no big claim but I do have other you know maybe you've got a theory m'early like claim like going off anyone and when jumping on that like like coin coin um honestly though I think I would I would I would say the majority of our viewers are crypto broke like me and you because I mainly because I see most more complaints about crypto mining in the comments than I do comment supporting my name do you any mean like I see everyone's like any time someone or any other youtuber does a video on crypto mining in any way that supports it it's like we're gonna build the crypto mind you like all the comments are super negative and there's a huge backlash I haven't seen anyone in my comments personally saying like hey you should do a crypto mining build or something like that so I would imagine most people are just trying to use GPUs for gaming sorry several people in chat are having aneurysms because the Hettie topper which know that they say it what did you say heavy topper I did I didn't click with me I have heard of Hettie topper I'm familiar with Headey topper the hell's heavy hover it's a very very popular and well-known IPA like a type of IPA or brand of like a like it brand like it's um yeah it's like a heady topper from where Vermont it's from Vermont all of these are from Vermont I like we're on the west coast I mean we're super west coast I have never heard of I've never seen that beer for anyone in anime for anyone in chat who's getting upset we're gonna have you'll drink the hoodie topper next well that yeah with you sure yeah I will drink the heady topper now it's my next choice I'm sure you'll immediately just jizz everywhere so I don't know what I said wait so wait is it heavy topper a heady an top-heavy topper okay okay I thought that was an answer ampersand now first glance I mean I was like just looking in the fridge there's a little weird symbol in between Hedy and topper and it looks like an ampersand at first glance so I said heavy and Tony toppers is up there with like the damnit the blimey yeah the planning it's it's one of those really kind of legendary known well-known and you got to drink it straight from the can I've heard of Hedy and topper like that it's not the first time I've heard that word or name but I just did not I have no recollection of what a tasty well is it good it's cuz it's ginger ginger later he's living there too Oh lemon ginger oh that was it that was a flavor that was a right is I just talking about a wild ride a flavor flavor journey cuz it first I was like my first does like cider and I was like oh it's got that ginger in there and like I've been and I'm little developing a taste for ginger my like my wife loves ginger love ginger so I've I like the ginger then as I was sort of enjoying the pleasant balance between the two suddenly lemon was like hey we're here I'm here too with 11 and and then I was like the snozzberries taste like snozzberries there's another one in there so I'll probably drink that one okay mmm this is almost out though yeah hey what did you say I'm saying that everyone's crypto broke all right crypto broke most of arms what Carlos things are not mining I'm gonna say less - I mean I your I probably would have picked that - if I if I had to choose but I'll say less than one Bitcoin the second most popular answer perhaps I feel like if you've got some I think if you have other cryptocurrency usually other cryptocurrencies you you buy and sell via bit like you trade it the other cryptocurrency for Bitcoin and then you cash out the big blue yeah usually how that works right all right I'm gonna say I'm gonna say less someone okay people say no and yeah 69% almost the magic number almost 7 out of 10 high name and I did choose correctly okay then one Bitcoin and the best you could so that is 69 79 that's 85 percent yeah only 15% who have nothing or less than one Bitcoin and even even even 96% who have I mean I guess other crip different maybe you might have a lot of other cryptocurrency baby so you had the dogecoin in the world obvious obviously still slightly Anish and seven people who have 100 plus bitcoins are liars oh yeah I have 100 plus bitcoins bitches I'd be surprised if one of those was true maybe - maybe - I'll give me two but I think I think also you throwing in the word bitches kind of it drew people to people my codes it's funny yeah so I mean you had a hundred bitcoins I mean we're be a millionaire millionaire no sorry you'd be rich you'd be pretty well he would be a millionaire you would render bitcoins v110 1.75 million hundred times ten thousand yeah all you needed to be as valued at ten thousand so yeah he'll a millionaire that's crazy all right um guys that is all for my prepared remarks for this half of Awesome hardware we're going to quickly run down the donations that people have made in check I thought I saw a hundred dollar donation in there which is why you guys probably whoa hilarious for a second but here we go and also will sell thank you for for being here and Excel so and moderating as always be love you Joseph key with the final donation what a you shot this is I don't know what this is what does she do Sheena B - oh no mo is that she not G ha is that can you pronounce that Kyle you're kind of Asian what is that one for represent 13 days till I finish my PC upgrade it means that you are going to die tomorrow yep he wrote us in the book well clearly his real name is like here you got me I'm curious what language is is that Japanese hey baby guess it's a Japanese but I'm not sure not for my maid of my native tribe well thank you Joe and I wish you the best of luck your fancy upgrade upcoming pup Shepard five dollars and sixty nine cents sent Kyle a mug Moe just keep an eye out for the mail time I will I haven't checked my Peele box in a long time but I haven't either I feel like there might be too much stuff there because but I'll check it will do will do mail time next week yep I promise there's nothing that we get your video demonetised feel free to sub to buy YouTube nice pop I don't know maybe maybe recommending that people sub to pups pups YouTube might get video 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my Linux box to Horizon three instead of upgrading my second gen I five twenty three twenty so I can put my set my seven seventeen hundred in it when I upgrade my gaming PC I did it Rison three thirteen hundred x hashtag rising all the things beautiful excellent heli dragon I'm not sure if you're already familiar with the level one techs channel but they've been doing a lot of stuff with Ryan and Linux specifically and they do a lot of like the Linux stuff like you're probably already familiar and you're like yeah I know but if you're not definitely check that out because I'm for sure yeah a lot of the Linux things with Rison their Linux box Scott Dilbeck 666 livestream was great fellas they stuck around for eight ish hours of it damn yes hell hell yeah Paul have the dogs been in your new truck yet and finished HTPC Cal State ended actually I actually do have some good ideas for the HTTP see it's been evolving in my mind although I haven't been doing any actual work on it but I think you guys will be happy when I actually do get to the next most of the work is done in here but I know it's been a while but I I do have a plan and I'm moving forward with it I'll be it slowly and the dogs nor he hasn't been in a truck but when we were at the when we did the fan meetup at the beginning of November my wife brought the dogs in here got to jump up and go in the truck and he he like he was like I just want to hang out here all the time so doggy corner Thom Brenneman since 15 Norwegian kroner watched whole 12 hour livestream yeah oh yeah Cheers it was awesome by the way I'm arguing with wife where Dimitri lips Canada or Russia hashtag anti-hitler hashtag was my when I shaved my beard I did um where Dmitri Dmitri actually presents in Europe right now is he still in Brussels yeah amazing Belgium or maybe it's Belgium Adam he's a world traveler he's like a little nomad he just travels all over the place but I believe he's in Europe today we bring you unboxing from Russia today tomorrow could be but he is Russian yes you know he's super Russian man original nationality whatever so I was originally from but he's not in Canada Ebers in Canada yeah Ebert Hebrews all a it's a very be very international crew see the harbour connects yeah well Tom's thank you for hanging out for the whole livestream that was a was crazy was lots of fun oh yeah Brussels is in Belgium uh-huh I need that I told you that this is sorted that was another one of those times where you said something and then I said something I was like I'm pretty sure never trust my words job quite enough to immediately immediately immediately shut it down yeah we can always rely on you for being sober and stuff to stick with the very generic it's in Europe Yeah right it was like somewhere in this part of the world Fred Brandt $100 $100 my god Fred Paul you still need to punish Kyle what for taking off his wedding ring oh come on I'm wearing it right now Fred look come on have some mercy please set up a straw poll and let all decide his punishment this is cruel this is actually like brutal torture check number one cherry pie in the face I like I don't like cherry pies oh that is a real punishment for me you know - you know I hate cherry pie - how does he know to eat entire stick of Carolina Reaper jerky we all know that I can't handle that not many people can to be honest three picture of ice water overhead oh you should definitely go with that one we can definitely Photoshop that and for wifey sauces choice anything but for I will I will accept any option but whatever whatever any things anything that wife knows she knows my true weaknesses she knows my she knows my kryptonite all right she is my Lex Luthor people end me at any rate - Fred that strawpoll I hope never comes to light and Paul never takes initiative to actually make it happen no stop at the bars and chat like like how YouTube's just like slowly chugging along like I picked my nose today and twitch is like Oh flurry of fours number three picture of ice water overhead ah oh my god see okay yeah see anything before see I can handle all the rest number three consider that my punishment all token for the team just now I'm just glad that considering you know the donation gives him the power to just dictate things that we do he's dictating stuff for you to do and not me for everyone wants for and now and now YouTube chimed in beautiful Fred whatever whatever is decided there it doesn't seem like four is the popular choice so I imagine we'll have to implement that during Kyle's half of the show I don't know if I think I think Heather said if she decides I feel like as number four and as the last item on the list though she could easily choose all of the above well this is what that's usually why she just put in chat for she what did she want you to shave your head so go ahead honey she kept trying to get you to do them on Saturday I I don't understand cuz I feel like shaving the head that that's like a punishment to her to because now she's married to me with the shaved head and no one honestly no one wants to see that shoot yeah it seems very uh masochistic coming anyways thank you so much thank you Frank your generous donation yes these are her ten Australian salute salute Cheers automatic Matt once again five dollars gotta go guys I'll watch tomorrow and get back up to date on your vids thanks Matt thinking Matt have a good one we love you Matthew Strom six dollars and sixty six cents super metal we've got would it be too risky to invest a couple hundred in Bitcoin for a couple days rather than investing a couple thousand well a couple hundred is always less risky than a couple thousand but it's it's it's like playing the stock market kind of way you know you're gambling you're gambling in a sense you're hoping that the value of Bitcoin of whatever you invest is going to increase it could and you could make Bank or it could decrease and you might lose money at a certain point it really is that that's we're not going to tell you how to I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money that is a something that could be very lucrative or very anti lucrative for you I I don't know it's one of the reasons why I'm like I'm concerned like I I earned my own money I work hard to do it and I it it's why I don't gamble a whole lot it's because sometimes I get freaked out at the thought of losing a bunch of money so quickly and I'd rather just work really hard to earn the money instead of trying to get some super get-rich-quick thing that works for some people god bless them and you know that's awesome but you know now you're just - it just just just dump your whole life savings into Bitcoin this is honestly what you should do just sell your house or whatever other assets liquidate all your assets and just just just buy like 30,000 mining rigs and dump all your money into Bitcoin and this point in the show where I feel like I should point out that this show is satire it's meant for amusements obviously no one should be yeah i listen to cow lost my little love Matthew I can certainly appreciate the question you and I would never I would never give anyone advice on that because I know it would go exactly opposite I wouldn't I would tell you know never invest in that and the next day would rule or until you absolutely drop everything and then it like whatever like so but like I said it's volatile it's a gamble so yeah I could go down high-risk high-reward yeah wow what a coolness though this kind of camera baracy this kind of buzz camera bussiness 10-year Rose hey boys I'm from Greece that explains it keep it real I like how his only comment was explaining the one question I had about his donation names so perfect Thank You iris these are the coolest name about 10 years el jéfe reviews what up el jefe five dollars great job on the charity livestream guys thank you very much you super proud of you guys are putting that together and also proud of the community for chipping in hell yeah hell yeah Cheers very much so you guys are all awesome so he's it mm-hmm 10k bitches let's keep it going Dave Fredrickson $10 just stopping in to throw you money I don't even watch live since I'm getting ready for work third shift but as always all listen to it later tonight while working keep being awesome thanks Dave I mean that's your third shift of the day or it's the third shift in the day like the late shift if they're 8-hour shifts mmm third shift would be interesting yeah sure no no I'm not sure it's a good question now I'm wondering about Dave and how his works are set up how does he fill the time like if you have a lot of time working third shift watch awesome hardware episodes third shift like really busy or is it really like desolate or maybe he just drives a manual transmission vehicle he got there in third shift and he's just saying you're getting ready for work and then he's like third ship because he's actually texting us he's texting this message right as he's driving I just wanted to be very accurate with with things or maybe as he was typing he was you know capitalizing certain letters or certain words and that was the third time he had used shift more questions and answers' really being raised by Dave here Bob thank you for your donation Dave thanks Dave chunky Thailand hey what is 1700 x4 two hundred and eighty nine dollars Arctic Panther inspired bill coming upgraded from an i7 6700 9k doing a more production now with photo and video editing that's definitely yeah I mean it's it's not a massive upgrade cuz the 6700 9ks is there's no slugs really mighty stretch but a 72 1700 X if you're doing like lots of rendering and stuff like that yeah you'll definitely appreciate the yes extra cores and do it and yeah 289 for the 1700 super good deal yeah the the the Andy CPU deals over the past few weeks have been so good compared to the like the Intel stuff oh yeah Intel it's like oh they're kind of 10 bucks off like oh they 700 k's in stock yep for only five dollars over a sarpy anyway but but chunky thai congratulations and you sound delicious matt bond $5 donation paul HTPC bill yes Matt god damn how many how many donation are you just trying to milk in as many donations that many vaults figured out like as long as I don't finish my htpc bill people keep giving me money haha it's expanded its expanded to be more than just the htpc and to be like where I have the always-on Hardware connected to so that's that's as much as I want to say at this point also like my outdoor area that I want to work on which is where I want to do the woodwork and stuff and this is definitely gonna involve some woodworking it's also part of it but yes it's still coming Matt it's still coming just slowly so she said yeah MMB sixty seven thirteen dollars and 37 cents donation for a leak Channel Happy Holidays Paul thanks man appreciate it sir cheers thank you Elita Christmas ginger and excellent use of the lead speaking German I'm an e 99 $5 hey Paul would a VPN get around issues from no net neutrality hey Kyle I hope to get my PC features some time on pip my PC so I mean anything that's a good question it was actually brought up on my net neutrality in-depth video as well it depends yeah generally speaking if you look at how the internet works right now yes that probably would if there was a specific website or a specific service that your internet service provider decided we don't want you to have access to that or like it's a competing service from something that we provide so we don't want to give you access a VPN won't get around that if we eventually get to the point where Internet service providers are like hey when we give you an internet connection we're connecting you to our Internet's and our services and that's what you get access to and then you have another tier up here where you can access the Internet in general mm-hmm what they might do is actually block anything except the IP addresses that connect directly to their services in which case a VPN would do you no good because your VPN IP addresses would be blocked as well granted that's a hypothetical situation and may or may not actually happen but yes they could even keep you from doing what she wants even with a VPN in that situation she's basically they would only allow you to connect to whitelisted IP addresses and websites and services and nothing else shooting but good cell processing $5.00 hey guys Congrats on the charity you killed it I'm proud of you from the elusive cell AI thank you so thanks dolls stop giving us money like yes domina and so I like I like tell cells voice was just kind of like in like they're so like Jarvis right that's what somebody else had mentioned he was really cool ever-present throughout the stream thank you very much for that cell for the donation and for being an awesome mod dingo on my $45 which mini ITX case you guys like fractal design no - OH - or Silverstone ml0 eight Beach mm I've only worked with the no - OH - you've done I've owned Burton and I've only built in the you never know no to or to build I've never actually built in the note okay no so it's a good question the ml 0 8 B definitely suffers from a lack of airflow if you keep the the dust filters on the side and whereas I like dust filters I don't like the lack of airflow the problem is that you don't have anything active there's no that they're just sitting there like out in space and you just put the filter on there so there's nothing to pull air through it so all you have is like a fan sitting there inside the system and it just yeah so if you're willing to modify the ml 0e it's kind of an ode to of to it and and and maybe maybe add a slim fan on there something like that or work with the lack of air flow situation then yeah I think it's a perfect it's a nice little case and I like the little handle nice and that's what our friend Rachel we I built the system for her and she took it to China and she's using it over there right now so nice little portable case but just you got to really keep that air flow problem in mind and and node to a to also very solid very small case yeah for mini ITX can be modded to fit in a io source nice to me I did it I did it I did the thing all right thank you very much dingo for the donation clint Flippo 20 bucks nice thank you love the show my dudes we love you Clint you love you love you but I like the name Clint Clint I could snot used enough like Eastwood center- with a four dollars and forty four cent donation throwing down for Heather's choice obviously with the fours yep thanks Sam's no other choice that doesn't mean you're gonna get it except whatever Heather very cute alright finally a yes as I was guys giv five dollar donation overheard you say patreon fee is 35 percent flat fee we did Craig later on sorry for the oversight there as we were talking about thank you for the donation and correcting us yep hopefully anyone who 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it now behind the things ok is there's a lot so I'm gonna quickly rattle these off Matt withers yes six or seven bad widows bit with logo shirt or no that's okay that's a couple Johnson from Matt dojo lwt's and he got the Star Wars to Star Wars which is the new design the new house of mr. design is Star Wars shirt also done by Brian yes soaked and their hands and a really cool design BIOS flash her shirt thank you very much Aaron Williams picking up a BIOS flasher shirt Chuck ping babes Charles from Ohio Oh check the Aaron to double jump is Cheryl Johnson yeah he checks he's around all the time he falls us some Twitter everything thank you so much he got the thumbscrew desk mat and a bit wit two pint glass the the ninety cent is it the long one I believe yeah baby cool Timmy Prudhoe hey Jim thank you very much for peaking of a CPU cooler and we got the double mug the double mug pack thank you sir I also got the long desk match the gaming mouse shoe he likes it no automatic Matt awesome hardware Star Wars black t-shirt big weight logo trucker cap and a bit with gaming mouse but you are the first person to pick up a bit a bit with gaming mouse pad that's sexy you are you call first on that one ready from Texas a Johnson for you sir got the gaming desk mat again the the long one people people like the long one yeah they do people like them long way why not it feels better Tate thank you very much if we gonna be beware of bottlenecks Cardinal Heather t-shirt tape gets a double Johnson turn in the hoe and like your last name tape dater he got these Star Wars Heather Navy t-shirt nice mark stevens-johnson to you sir it could've been RGB everything piggle chatter - Kevin kameen Wisconsin you got the pub last to be too glass 20 house publicity inconvenient also super nice Jason is what I meant to say that horrible noise can't instead I forget of a CPU cooler shirt thank you Jason Cameron from Oregon got the key cap oh yeah Nikki kept in check I got I have some of these new cap a lapis little key cap there with the thumb screw on it thanks and one more for David from New Jersey the Meade also got the mouse pad and a desk that set you know that need so is both of them you get the long run and the short one yeah so if you can't decide or if you got multiple systems you just get in both or um multiples hell yeah all right sweet appreciate it guys we're done with the first half but we still have the second half still to come so if you're watching this on YouTube definitely the thumbs up button on your way out and if you don't leave a comment do so if any of you guys are watching and you don't see timestamps in the description or down in the comment section and you're willing to do that we greatly greatly appreciate it oh you know what Evan what I've been intending to do what why haven't been doing what have you not been doing I'm gonna do it right now is to give a shout out to whoever did the timestamps oh yeah the last week yeah and maybe it'll become a massive couple also there's some people who have been doing really regularly who are pretty awesome load talk bomber hock bomber dude the last week huh so shadow talk bomber thank you guys for watching and we're gonna switch over to Kyle's 1/2 so like the description I got update the link in the description does I'm gonna go to coast you know my channel
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