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today the first half is going up on Paul's channel and the most mature word of mine so keep keep giving us money we like it gets us hot gets us red-hot disagree cut right in the nipples disagree but you know I don't want to argue jorpe sure it's your show all right this is the news segment and because we were having technical difficulties not all my lower thirds are aligned so I have a good news segments later on as well good news is figure out that all the news is good but here is Samsung's latest announcements there is ESS D Z yes which features Z and this is the SZ 985 it's a high-performance Highlander it's enterprise nvme SSD it's one of the available in two models 800 gigs and 240 gigs what's so Z about it it's called zine and and if you want to make something sound like it's faster and better put them previously exotic lettering you usually put a letter in front of it as either is a common as you will add at least 15 to 20% of speed formats if you put an X in front o 30 to 40-percent but that's a generational leaf yeah but I mean with X you got it you know you get your risk offending certain people who you know it's like there's like X religious symbol that kind of thing ex-girlfriends as well yeah ex machina all this is to say it's a juicer save hello the road trace by Samsung to go with the zine and for the naming okay and then of course the matching name of the product the SC 985 I'm a sucker for you know lowball marketing so if they say it's faster because it's got a zine it I sure as hell believe I believe them - no need two independently tested or anything absolutely this is intended to compete with Intel's op teen memory and we've talked about obtain a decent amount on the show and done a video or two about it here and there op team members really fast it's also very expensive it's also only been released in products that are either made for the enterprise or not very exciting like the OP teen memory stuff that they initially launched they do have a consumer version now that's available it's been getting a little bit of a little bit of reviews here and there about it but this is Samsung's answer and actually they've been working on this for a while and in fact they were supposed to have launched this earlier they started showing this at trade shows in 2016 two years ago and they initially promised one terabyte drives in 2016 which was last year if you guys know two years ago yep two terabyte and four terabyte drives were already supposed to be out in 2017 now it is January 2018 and they are announcing they're actually announcing the law the upcoming launch of this product so it's definitely been delayed but this is a derivative Xena and is a derivative of their existing 3d and that they already have and it's supposed to be faster at least significantly faster when it comes to the read speeds yeah Dean and already sounds like 3d man to me just because when I first read that I thought immediately thought z-axis I was like there's probably some relation there X Y & Z yeah the read performance though of the Xena is supposed to be 10 times higher than their existing 3d TLC end which is you know that's a nice nice boost it's not quite what you expect with adding the Z but you know it's it's difficult to bring a lot of extra performance out of this type of product but it's got 1.5 gigs of lpddr4 DRAM so on cache on the drive typically you pair about one gig of cache with about one terabyte of NAND and with typical SSD configurations so the an antique article which is linked in the video's description along with their all the articles we're going to talk about today said that seems kind of weird either they're doing a ton of over-provisioning with the drive and actually giving you more but limiting it to a capacity of like 800 gigs or whatever for the 800 gig version or they say have some other way that it's actually managing the memory that requires more than the typical gig of DRAM per terabyte of NAND flash used by most SSDs right there's no full performance specifications from Samsung but they did list a few few specs among the all the specs you'd want to hear the spec they released just so happens to be the one that beats Intel 750 thousand random read input/output operations per second or I apps which is a very nice very high high number Intel's competing drive the octane SSD DCP 4800 X also an enterprise model gets about 550,000 high ops the right speed of Samsung's though is only 170 and that is 77% slower than its reads whereas with the Intel drive the reads or the the writes only drop off about 9% to about 500 K so Intel 550 500 for reads and writes Samsung 750 170 and all by up to 800 gigs but sometimes read performance is more impressive it depends on where you're implementing the drive and what kind of data center you're running and all that kind of thing endurance rating is 30 Drive it's already totaled writes per day for five years which is about the same endurance as the p40 entered X Samsung will be presenting the Z's SSDs z9 85 at the international solid-state circuits conference which is coming at February 11th to 15th which I'm sure all of you have any calendar right yes you got that Cal did definitely international solid-state circuits conference I'm not gonna be making sensationally so this is definitely a launch announcements and announcement that's announcing they're going to launch at some point but pretty soon there's something only offering this in PCIe its PCI you drive yeah okay yeah so there you go sure sure well I guess the reason I wanted the reason I live with this story is to point out that Intel has made a lot of advancements with op team and there's a lot of cool things about octane it's very fast when it comes to the actual design of the memory itself and it's cool that Samsung is coming out of something that's competitive with that because if we ever want to see obtain reasonable speeds or I'm sorry reason very surprised yeah it's gonna need something that competes with it from a competitor like Samsung so yeah all right speaking of introducing more competition TSMC the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation has started conduction or construction of a new fab I have 18 over there in Taiwan fabulous it does sound fabulous I had fab to that article article here from hexxus dotnet which is why all the numbers are in pounds and whatever but this is the southern Taiwan Science Park near China and city this is a groundbreaking ceremony for the next major 12-inch Giga fab from TSMC 12 inch yeah yeah it's very impressive it's very very long this is their chairman dr. Morris Chang they're in the center chain with the golden shovel mr. Chang yes happy to be there he does he looks pretty a you actually looks kind of sleepy he looks like he's racist let's look no no he looks tired like they said no like instant like this dude over here Paul smiley he even be next to you he's smiling he's like hey I'm kind of stoked to be here I'm probably gonna make a lot of money from this place this guy in the fur green sky like whoa this guy's taking a picture I wasn't told every pictures this guy's smiling yeah he's he's doing like a low-key like I know something you don't emili´s I'm just saying that mr. Chang doesn't see it but to be fair he is retiring be fair later this year he's retiring in June and he's he's 86 years old so oh he's an ass and he's he's the chairman of little one of the largest largest essentially the biggest semiconductor manufacturer in the world I may be divided they're developing into three phases and that's gonna be three-phase manufacturing plant phase one is gonna be there is what they're working first so manufacturing equipment for that should be installed by quarter 3 2019 so next year volume production in early 2020 phase 2 as good looking at volume production and later in 2020 and phase 3 construction will begin q3 of 2019 next year and that won't hit volume production until 2021 so we're looking at 2020 2021 until this actually starts spitting out silicon that will actually be used in products once it's up and running that triple phase fab 18s output will exceed will exceed a million twelve inch wafers per year and you know it's much wafer there's lots depending on what's being put on the wafer has lots of little chips yeah you can cut out of it so that's many many CPUs or GPUs or whatever thanks again hopefully GPUs because we could use those videos lots more GPUs it's gonna support 4,000 high quality jobs over there and Taiwan quality German they've already invested I'm sorry they're gonna be invest 500 billion NT that's new Taiwan dollars it's approximately 12 billion great British pounds which translates into a US dollar amounts that I was planning on looking at the convertible boys rating before the show but I didn't get around to it so 12 brilliant 12 billion great British pounds give up they've already spent 200 billion NT or 4.8 billion great British pounds on 5 nanometer technology in R&D since 2015 because 5 nanometer Feb did it have a yes I than a 5 nanometer so this is even shrink e'er than what AMD is working on with their 7-day of your stuff right that mean yep will be a power efficient for sure and they are to have rnd underway for a 3 nanometer fab in the same park and they have 300 people already working on R&D for that so any damn I do at TSMC make make more chips there's a nice aerial view of the southern Taiwan Science Park I miss Taiwan yeah I've never been done to Tainan yeah you ever I only been to mainly OpenType Taipei and down the east coast of all yen yeah alright next up is a little story on the FCC and a G PI and the government making their own 5g network sort of an interesting random this is just kind of funny when the start the story itself so here's the deal Axios originally reported over this past weekend that officials within the Trump administration have been provoked proposing the creation of a nationwide 5g network in order to protect against Chinese leadership and forthcoming network technology so they're worried they're like security concerns that cause these people to be like hey we need to make a nationalized 5g a nationwide network now I've become an equal though okay there are there is very valid arguments and discussion to be had in favor of and against a national 5g network and I'm not going to dive into that right now no no way am I prepared for that type of argument but let's just say that what actually hi and the FCC have been doing recently is the complete opposite of a national 5g Network they've been trying to take away a government get rid of the government get the government out of you know any type of control or regulation over the over the Internet's so the Trump administration to come suddenly coming out be like hey we're considering an and they you know and nationalized 5g network across the nation apparently they didn't check with Ajit pie first like nobody ran this by him that this the news kind of came out so he he published a response that he opposes any proposal for the federal government to build and operate a nationwide 5g Network and some other some other garbage I don't like reading this stuff he writes cuz it irritates me but it's triggering but as he opposes it and if you want to listen to everyone else in the FCC which includes three Republican and two Democratic members and including the two Democratic members who we feel have been speaking out very strongly and in ways we very sincerely agree with which is bendin Clyburn and Jessica rosenworcel they agree to they also say this is a bad idea so you have a rare unanimous consent in the FCC that hey guys probably building our own national 5g network is a bad idea so yeah like I said I'm not gonna try to are like you know damn a toothpick together it was just kind of funny after all the stuff that a GP and and has been doing right and the decisions to like get rid of net neutrality and all that kind of stuff that suddenly like that this is a maybe thing right whatever so if the acting commissioners of the FCC have anything to do with it it's not gonna go anywhere but hey if it does I'm sure we'll talk about it next up human uber what do you think human uber what does that mean well as pointed out in the article by Brian Feldman at New York mate Meg oh this was actually sort of sort of this is kind of idea was presented on Arrested Development's that in our article where there was a surrogate and this guy whose name was Larry middleman and the reason was a dad an Arrested Development was in jail he's like in jail the whole time but he's still trying to do all these business deals and everything like that so his Larry middleman going around with a hat on it says surrogate with a camera on the front of it and he's like I think he was that he had an earpiece going so he would say stuff in the right yeah so anyway he knows whether or not that's where the idea actually came from but this is coming from the MIT Technology reviews e/m tech conference which is going on in Asia this week and researchers have showed off a human Eber and which someone straps a tablet to their face and fills in for someone else and here's here's some tweets of the pictures of it which is that looks like [Laughter] it's like Daft Punk back there how does how does the person with the helmet see yeah that's that's what I'm not sure but it looks like there's they have a VR headset on or something as well with a camera connector with something so that they can actually see what's in them but that seems easy flippable mechanism but still yeah but they show this off I think the helmets part of the design I don't think that's like a motorcyclist or anything because that guy looks like he's gonna yeah well it seems like it would be easier if it was just a self-contained unit that you can you can put on and take off or whatever but but yeah so it's actually called chameleon mask is what the product is and of course it was modeled in Japan of all places yes and gin Rickey moto is the develop is the guy who showed this off he is a Japanese arv our researcher affiliated with Sony he says it's surprising surprisingly naturally that actually do this I wonder if I mean it might especially if you wear the same same jacket got a picture that if you want him to have the same wardrobe see this is weird it's like he's looking at himself because he's wearing the same hoodie and then is that a picture of himself on a screen that's weird but see what I don't get is what's the difference between this and just talking to someone on skype why do you think it's telepresence so you're actually there and if you are like if you're a doctor and you're remote and you're really good at what you do but it's you know you can't fly everywhere and go then you could have somebody with this on going from patient to patient and looking at them and when when you talk you you know they see your face talk and they hear your voice and everything and they can talk back to you and do you hear what they say and whoever your surrogate is standing here hi like I don't know how you I don't know how you control them that's what I'm not sure about how do you control right the person's vehicle like some things like this some electrical stimulation they get old zaps forward or whatever yeah you have some extra mics where you talk to them okay hey Nick it's the wrong room yeah I don't even know these people so many many questions are raised by this but still still seems like it great idea it's like what happens what happens what what happens to the poor the poor surrogate who like finds themselves in like either a terrible drug deal or like maybe it's like they're about to have sex like someone mentioned in the comments like all right baby unzip it and like the circuits like wait am I supposed to do I do it how far do I how far do I take this at what point do I draw the line of being somebody else's body that's why I'm so excited about the future because all these all these things you would have sex with two people at once yeah in one body yeah the future what if your surrogate welcome to the pinnacle of what if while you earn into your surrogate they're also dialed in to someone else who's a surrogate for them like I need to get son I need to get some shopping done while I do my job as a surrogate so it's just how many levels can you go I don't know and this time go slower when you're a surrogate within a surrogate I'm not sure wait for the kick back yeah so so an interesting concepts and it says the developers also tested cosplaying as enemy characters in real life which I don't know why the article seems relatively serious epsilen even though just at the end it kind of throws it oh yeah and they did anime characters - what's like on the the screen on the tablet I don't know like I did did the person wear a cosplay costume and then they act like Sailor Moon or something or you know I don't know but that introduces even more possibilities and so you know the whole sex thing with this obviously witch and futures futures looking bright this is gonna be a good tool for a long-distance relationship oh yeah like what if you got a super jealous of you of the person who is a surrogate because you like went and like yeah like man I like bang the shit out of my wife or whatever right it wasn't you know I feel about that like you're watching it alright Martian tell me how did it feel let's move on speaking of the future lookin bright flame throwers you guys may or may not be following the ongoing continuous sale from the boring company owned by Elon Musk of flamethrowers wait so explain to me cuz is the boring company is a real company or a real company where they just make stupid shit no no boring company this is I think this one onto a different video about Brazil so they actually make really cool stuff and also stupid stuff no no the bar the boring company is about boring as in boring holes in the earth ah right okay it was the company that Elon Musk could decided to create when he was stuck in traffic in LA I believe right and he's like you know it would be better than sitting in traffic in LA yes if we just had a bunch of holes dug under LA where people could go through tunnels and whatever and so I started this company gotcha now a few months ago he they made it they made a hat cuz it's called the boring company right so it's obviously you got to play on that boring sure so I made a hat maybe made hats called for the boring company and he said they and they sapere sold well and he he basically said at some point that if they if they sell 50,000 boring company hats at $20 each then he'll and I don't I don't know how the timeline with that I don't know if he said also a boring company flamethrower or if he just said we'll sell something else really cool or something like that point is they sold that many hats at 20 bucks each that's a lot of hats and now you can buy a boring company flamethrower nice and Elon Musk has been doing great marketing for it by saying stuff like a flamethrower is a super terrible idea and you shouldn't buy one unless you like fun of course no one must gets the Internet that's why he's so much you know they and they showed some pictures of it of them actually testing these out there short-throw flamethrowers so you know there's a pretty decent sized flame there but it's not going a crazy long distance that's but it's important for certain areas especially like California where that's illegal it's yeah and can't be legal restriction a full-blown flamethrower that she'd stay in third device the the it has to have arranged it it's regulated if it has a range of 10 feet or more so that's why the throw is on the flame is it's kind of less perfect a California sent assembly on Miguel Santiago has did some reactionary like legislation against it or something like that but that's not like a second the mode they designed these in such a way that you know it's not a full-on flamethrower that's gonna you know torch a bunch of people from 50 feet away or something like that yes practical uses include a farmer could use it to clear their fields at the end of the growing season firefighters could use them to do controlled burns although I have to imagine firefighters might have their own tools or any company issued flame throwers I feel like that's what that's what happens when you become a flame throws to you starting to turn into inanimate objects well I mean if they get the arm attachment for it right because the augment yeah you become a firefighter like here's your your hat and your big issue like your really heavy Flint jacket coat you know flame retardant coat and your flame server right your fireman's you gotta start some fires kids fight fire with fire and then you know some ritual with a pan or something else when your kid fight yeah anyway so there the point here really was that they were selling out of these in fact he was tweeting about it and the article says they sold 10,000 of them but as of earlier today he was at 15k let's see if there's been any update 17 all right as of eight minutes ago they've sold 17.5 Wow seventeen and a half thousand of these streams believe it live five hundred dollars each Wow so there's two there's a little over 2000 of these left see if you guys want you can still buy a boring a boring old flamethrower that's all honestly pretty cheap 20 bucks I mean I have to imagine they're making some amount of profit on it I mean that's not the intent probably right I don't think name on muskets five hundred times seventeen thousand five hundred I don't know the Google Calendar Google calculator pros doesn't work well as your Google calculator frozen I don't know and also because this what I don't know I don't know what's wrong the blade Pro let the blade decide it wants to be less professional it's pure struggle and not even have a calculator to touch you know that's like a Windows Update thing you need to really knows update it's and I think I've had issues with that myself right the flamethrowers aren't gonna ship until spring though they're gonna start shipping in spring just what they said he said also yesterday that they've sold about 3000 admittedly overpriced fire extinguishers maybe that was an upgrade option you get if you're checking out with your flame thrower to get a fire extinguisher if you want to be safe and yeah that's pretty much it all right you know let's move on to a new segments that I specifically made up for today it's called tech drama we've talked about some drama in the titled oh but wait before I do that after I almost forgot about this thanks I was trained yeah I was trying to think like you know everyone saying Elon Musk is so smart and everything like that you know for the flamethrower forgetting the flamethrower but if if you recall Spaceballs did it first yeah great Spaceballs the flamethrower there it is yeah I wonder if kids the kids love this the kids love this man yeah I wonder if that's where he got it from the beholder is boring he meant back going hey what if we made that a reality yeah all right that would be a LAN mosque ridiculous idea totally seems physics me that that's that that's where it originated I want one game but all right so let's talk about some tech drama that's been going on this week now first off we don't we don't approve of tech drama we're discussing I did it to try to dispel it's learn to deem it up to tamp down the flames of the tech drama possibly start some fights possibly some solutions you know that we might suggest or more fighting but just over this past weekend there's been a bit of a kerfuffle a bit of a hub of kerfuffle surrounding a video posted by adored TV who adored TV Jenna we've talked about some of his videos before he's he's got a pretty decent following on YouTube and everything he talks about tech stuff just the guy who really really really really likes AMD um he has been accused that before and what I don't want to get into here is like because there's lots of like people people gay people get opinions about you know certain youtubers whatever and they decide like oh they suck or whatever or they're really good or anything like that like there's there's people who have preformed opinions about maybe ad or TV or who knows even PC perspective but I just want I just want to present the facts here and then perhaps provide some I don't know some feedback or some subjects some suggestions that that maybe will help I don't know you're calm over in the forums has a pretty decent sort of collection on this so that's linked in the video's description if you guys want to check it out Ryan Stroud is owner of PC perspective also they recently launched a company last year I believe called trout Research and they do stuff like writing white papers for tech companies it's a white paper again white paper is a it's a technical document that goes over specifications and expected performance of a specific product it's not like a review so it's not necessarily critical it's just supposed to be a very detailed assessment of a product I think it's what it's supposed to be and be able to deliver yeah oh Ken's and the and if you're a manufacturer or something like that of something like you know video cards or whatever other technical product then it is helpful in some ways for you to go and get an independent technical company gotcha such a choice for example like all the specs like off of an SSD retail package when you see like 550 read 500 write that was taken off of that products white paper that was possibly I mean but the company could do could do the testing themselves and put it that way but yeah having that my paper to independently validate things and clarify that things work the way they should is yeah I guess that's what it boils down to today the initial video was called a flawed perspective as listed here in the article and it was basically it was very critical of PC perspective and it went in and covered I think I want to say four main points that Jim issues Jim had with PC perspective going back to article and video that where I believe a couple years old now two three years old about initial PC perspective coverage of freesync that was Critias been criticized and the criticism from Jim was that they should have done more updates to it or made it more evidence especially in the video that certain things weren't exactly as they were initially presented the main complaint was that the video was comparing two different monitors at the same SPECT was not exactly the same monitor there's more details on that in the article but the second thing is general bias against AMD which Jim presented a few things that he felt were evidence that there is a PC perspective Amazon affiliate link for Vega frontier edition that was actually on the AMD website which seems weird if you're saying that spy it's biased against AMD but then AMD somehow has a an Amazon affiliate link on their website that benefits PC perspective apparently that was just a mistake from from the explanation by Ryan and whatnot but if that just seemed like kind of a weird thing and then there was the shrout research the existence of that company and specifically the Intel 900p review that they did is along with al Amalfitano who does a lot of the storage reviews over at PC perspective is knows a lot of stuff and does a very in-depth coverage of storage and I referenced his articles a lot yeah now the accusation there was that they weren't as upfront as they could have been with the fact that due to the fact that shrout research had arranged with Intel to do a white paper on their 900 p-series SSDs that's where at least one of the reviews apples that was used in there an article that reviewed that SSD came from mm-hmm that it wasn't fully disclosed that there's this you know these two companies going on at the same time one being a review website one being the shark research website that works directly as manufacturers and that you know it doesn't seem like it's legit and on the up-and-up for and whatever now Ryan's Shrout rated wrotes and this is over on reddit so there's also a link to this a response to the ethical concerns and this is this is very long so it also includes the email conversation back and forth between Ryan and Jim that went on over the weekends it also has a lot of stuff such as just evidence to that sorta that that Ryan put out there saying sort of well let me let me respond to these accusations as as best I can there's obviously some it seems like there's some bad blood going back further and in the past maybe that we're not aware of because it does seem like pretty antagonistic from from the adora TV side to go and post this video in the way that they did and Ryan's initial concern with it was one apparently on Friday he had some fans of adored TV who were responding to the video who were sending like pictures of his house and that kind of thing yeah which is just kind of a personal attack now that the existence of that happening doesn't mean that there should never be any criticism or that that type of thing towards someone but it's definitely an issue when Ryan wasn't given the chance to answer any of these accusations prior to the posting of the video right that was Ryan's main response was that the right to reply was something that he felt yeah he should have had there yep and then Agron now in the u.s. right to reply is actually I believe there's actually a legal precedent surrounding it yes you might be on the hook for or for like slander or libel or something like that if you were to go and post something about someone without at least going to them first and a lot of articles use that are written about something they'll be like we reached out to this and they didn't respond exactly like that's going to comment that whole thing that's that's the one thing I think's points of journalism like if you're gonna like accuse someone of something negative then you should reach out to them for comment to some degree to see if they have anything to respond to instead of just publishing whatever hell you want to do for views or whatever it is without giving them a chance to defend their their side I think is yeah so that's the word failed to do that so maybe his response parently we included the the fact that I guess in Europe that's not that's not that the the like that law doesn't exist or whatever like he he didn't he wasn't legally obligated or responsible to offer PC perspective the right to reply based on his location geographically but like Kyle said even if that is the case that still doesn't mean that you should just go and post something about someone especially when you are sort of sort of in the same industry without at least giving them the opportunity or the chance to know something about it or at least be prepared or be able to present their side of the story right I felt reading over over Ryan stuff that he did a good job being very thorough and covering each point and everything like that and in quite a few of the areas he he did seem to admit the admit faults to some degree they've made some updates to for instance the freesync articles I don't know if they've done anything as far as the video goes but yeah he put lots of stuff up there about like you know their communications with AMD and NVIDIA back when they were initiated initially doing the frame rates FCAT testing stuff that they did and it was four or five years ago what were the accusations about freesync what were those about Precinct was so ghosting was like when freezing a g-sync were first coming out and freeze was the answer or the other response did you sink or whatever there were they were looking very close up at free sync and gsync and you know that that turbine young with the whatever thing with the windmill looking really closely at that and just comparing actual response time and seeing if the end ghosting ran pc perspective came to the conclusion that that free sink was more susceptible to ghosting than g-sync mm-hmm the critiques that I've heard about it sensed a sense that I'm just reading up to this article and I'm gonna leave this sort of vague because I don't feel like I've I know enough of the details to test state it clearly but I guess they were using two different monitors then had the same specifications but weren't the exact same monitor so there was some question there as to the validity of the testing so interesting yeah Brian's specifically said we've made the edits and updates the adora TV video called out specifically with regards the freesync thing we believe at the time that our new article on the topic was adequate due diligence because they didn't do an updated article on it while it's impossible for any outlet outlet to update all published articles or videos every time some something changes to recognize that that was this was an important issue we'll try to do better about updating published content when appropriate as for the free sync panel debate the text of our view stated that the panel's shared the same specifications not that they were the same panels oh I click tonight yeah however in comments related to the article we did state that the panels were the same that was our area and we apologized so yeah all this is to say when it comes down to something like this it doesn't seem like a bit of muckraking and a bit of like sort of creating scandal yeah from the adored TV side lens I don't tend to look favorably on that just as a general principle of like if you find something that's messed up and you to create a video about it to expose that than fine yeah if you're looking for something and you're like I'm gonna find something messed up and create a video out of it then you're projecting what you what you want onto that subject and it'll short I don't think that's necessarily the way to go about it so yeah I would discourage from this type of video that simply creates drama or controversy for the sake of that right and I would definitely say that especially if you're doing something like that and if you decided that that that you should do that because let's be for this to be fair and honest reviewers should be scrutinized there should be some level of accountability there and if someone's just posted up you know nonsense numbers or if someone's exhibiting clear bias or something like that they should definitely be held accountable right but right to reply I think is definitely something that whether or not it's legally enforceable should be provided to someone simply as a courtesy yeah especially if you're about to to post a video or an article that's yeah calls their legitimacy in the question yeah it's it's hard to and people don't fact-check and they like they like someone that's fine if you like someone you know you follow them and you like things they say and what they stand for but if they make allegations especially against another creator or journalist or anything anyone people should fact check that stuff instead of just sort of rallying behind it as like and take it for truth because the more you turn a blind eye to content like that the more the creator who's making it is it is gonna is gonna make more of it and they're gonna be like well cool I can just continue accusing people of X Y & Z like I could accuse you of like touching my grundle or something like that like you Paul got a little close to my dick the other day and it can be completely false but then like people will not fact check whether or not you touched my dick and all of a sudden overnight you are a target of sexual harassment which I may or may not have enjoyed and it's just you know people need to do some more research I think for hopping on the bandwagon and you know saying that you touch my dick alright let's move on let's move on sure next up is more drama or text Rama article yeah chapters one getting into it quickly alright so this is this one is between and maybe this is gonna get me in trouble or not we got a gamer's Nexus over here of course there's Steve and here their specific video talking about micro Center and and them being rip up rip off this is actually their one of their this is one of their videos I didn't get around to watching what did how what what was it about so gamers Nexus is really pissed off that micro Center is selling graphics cards for well above MSRP and a lot of us are mad that graphics cards are selling for so expensively here's joke productions I've linked both these videos in the video's description his Wow his headline is Idol is very all caps II and everything like that micro centers stab PC gamers in the back so here's what this all boils down to both both are articles and here is wrong with this one here's the micro centers website where they actually have a message that they've posted about this because they're aware of what they're doing to some degree they say you may have noticed the price of our video cards has recently increased high demand from a cryptocurrency miners combined with constrained shipments from vendors has created industry-wide George's to best address your system bully needs we monitor market prices and set our prices to be competitive with Amazon and Newegg for the same products limit quantities to ensure that many as many of you as possible can purchase the component you need and they offer more discounts a final price well below the market friends store by local poets and then they thank you that's all others also said thank you it's all basically a big excuse for them to raise prices of their graphics cards now the reason I brought this up is because I disagree not necessarily district micro Center I don't know with gamers Nexus interconnection now not necessarily that I wholeheartedly disagree more so that I feel like there's an aspect of this that at least isn't being addressed here's my point these graphics cards are selling for way above MSRP you know you got gtx 1070 s gone for more than a thousand dollars and 1050 t is in ten 60s and lord knows even the AMD cards were expensive already and now they're even more expensive people on some level and i don't know whether it's speculating cryptocurrency miners or people who are just like graphics cards worth a lot of money i better buy one people are buying them they don't price then you don't have an industry-wide price scheme going on unless people are actually paying those dollar amounts for those prices so if you want to address the root of the problem well i don't know how to do that because you have to suddenly figure out how to suddenly make more currency not affect GPU prices but if people are willing to pay this money getting mad at micro Center for charging the amount of money that people are willing to pay I don't think really does that much because people are gonna pay that money anyway Micro Center when they get a shipment in if they're like you know what we're gonna do the right thing and we're gonna sell all these for MSRP we're gonna sell all these 10 70s for 400 bucks when they come in that would immediately be snapped up and they'd be really realistic on eBay or whatever you know you might have one or two people who will go in there and are able to buy a product and get it an MSRP but they're gonna be resold people are going to get the value out of that so why should randoms who buy and realist things on eBay or Craigslist or whatever wherever people are relisting things why should they get all that extra money when micro Center or any other retail you might talk about is doing the actual effort of dealing with distribution centers or manufacturers and bringing the products in and listing them for sale and having the return policies and doing the logistics and like that's a lot of work thing and why should Micro Center not not be able to charge the amount of money that the public is willing to pay you know if more money is falls into micro senators pocket for selling these GPUs at a competitive rate like everyone else is then maybe down the line they can use that extra profit to funnel back into the back into like doing more deals more sales having better inventory more product in their stores I mean eventually if like if micro Center got bigger and got more money then there's a potential that it could be better for the consumers as well and I think part of me is wondering like why why are people angry at micro Center specifically when like sites like Amazon and Newegg and literally everyone else are selling GPUs at the same price why are they targeting micro Center why haven't there been any like Amazon you and I have a bone to pick like why micro like okay cuz they're primarily geared towards PCs and stuff I get it but there's still a company there's Micro Center has managed to put themselves in the spot that Newegg used to be in like I feel like noon I used to be kind of the darling of the PC builder industry like everyone would be like I'll buy it at Newegg whatever and maybe they still are to some degree but I feel like not as much as they used to be whereas Micro Center it's like wow you live near a micro Center oh my gosh you're so lucky you can go in there and buy their really discounted CPUs and just to be able to walk into a retail store that just sells all computer parts but it's like that mentality like Micro Center sort of that underdog it's that sold out and it's a sale yet small-time brail right right that they have decided to go ahead and do this and whatever so but I mean they have a right to stay competitive as a business regardless of how they've behaved in the past like there's nothing wrong with I don't see really anything wrong with what they're doing and then the other thing is like even if they were to sell their GPUs at MSRP like the word on that would get out super quick and all it would take is a handful of miners literally a handful of miners to buy up all their inventory at those prices like if if microsomes the one-stop shop where they can get GPUs at MSRP they're probably gonna clear one guy is gonna go in and buy like 50 of them right so at the end of the day and then they want to make it to sell to the gamers anyway so so maybe one or two gamers will get lucky and get one before the onslaught of miners comes around but like realistically there's more to this and there's an another article from PC gamer talking about micro centers prices and the fact that you can actually if you're willing to do a combo and of course need all the rest of the components for a computer you can get a GPU at something around the the retail price but it's by buying a combo that takes that overpriced graphics card and pairs it with a motherboard and a processor and everything else so you're walking out of the store paying $1200 but you didn't just get a graphics card you got the other components too now if you don't need the other components and that's not a very very big help to you of course if you just need if you're like man I'm just waiting to upgrade just my graphics card then then that's you know what are you gonna do there but I do want to respond to at least a couple of people in chat I've been warned by the way that Steve's probably to come back at me last time I challenged him was with H 500 P and yeah turns out I was wrong but but here's a new egg let's look at 1070 in cents yeah a lot of people in chat are saying like Steve was upset because apparently Michael ascender had the thing where if you buy the stuff in like as a bundle that you would get the GPU for a discounted price so that's their way of you know trying to make it at least somewhat worth your money I guess for paying that much for a GPU if that's how much should you use cost right now but alright let's go to new egg because here's another thing I was saying the Steve was complaining that on other websites like new egg and Amazon they have marketplace sellers right they have third-party sellers to go on the website and you might see a GTX 1084 $1500 or whatever but it's a third party it's not new it actually not Amazon so if you go on new again you're searching for stuff all sellers will include marketplace sellers let's just include new egg here and oh my gosh new egg is selling gtx 1060 for $400 that seems to be significantly above the MSRP for a GTX 1060 right new eggs doing it - yeah so don't try to come at me and tell me that all the new egg prices are actually MSRP and it's just the marketplace sellers no that's not true these are selling for they're not as crazy overpriced as like eBay prices and marketplace sellers and whatever but they're doing it - yeah everyone's playing the game and every body and it all right so check out those videos if you guys wanna watch them and of course we we love we love Steve and gamers Nexus and Joker and all they're good people but I had to make I had to cut some drama I had to call people out make make a scandal fuck you last bit is gonna be good news and I'm gonna go through this really quick because yeah actually our in my hours yeah I was calm and none of these are really tech related and I just wanted to talk about good news so nice here we go Tom Hanks is gonna play mr. Rogers you are my friend a fact that's just that's gonna create a singularity of goodness it's gonna suck us all in into a good old black hole of warm fuzzy feelings warm standing wonderfulness I don't know I like the Jimmer do you ever watch mr. I mean probably not I didn't like watch it but I like I'd watch like Sesame Street before and then as soon as mr. Rogers would come on I'd watch the intro listen to the intro song and then I'd turn it off cuz then he got creepy yes but um but no it was always very nice man alright so this is this is a district based on the distribution rights from the mr. Rogers bat that called you up you are my friend which is about him and his producer that I worked with on the show and it's supposed to be really good story and mr. Rogers is a it's like it's a really good person like yeah around his like deep down hit the core of his soul is just inherently good yep shoe they has created five national parks over ten million acres historic act of conservation 10 million poison rap unprecedented elite measure that's been cited a lot this is a picture right here of all 10 million acres it will preserve vast tracts of Patagonia signed into law by the President Michelle Bachelet a nice really and they're basically so like in Chile there they're gonna go all along kind of the inner spine here la Club vulcan luga do that what is this word it's not a word Lula there's more ELLs in that word and anyway point is everyone go visit Chile and all of their Wow look at all that do it Bernardo O'Higgins since a lot of on his face thing good lord all right so hey national parks I'm always happy about those finally Qantas has done the first-ever flights from Los Angeles to Melbourne fueled by a mustard seed biofuel what a waste of mustard seed how resourceful and it's much losing twenty four thousand kilograms of mustard seed based blended fuel fly qf 96 from Los Angeles to Melbourne is using biofuel extracted from mustard seed a Brassica card anata yes developed by Canadian agricultural and technology company Agra soma bias Agra soma Biosciences I know I have tried everything with a Spanish accent selectively alright so there it is Qantas sweet cuts like one is very good for the mustard day for good news okay let's quickly go over some of the donation comments that we've gotten while you read off some of those I'm gonna go to the bathroom really quick okay because I don't think I'll make it that's a probably it's probably for the best thing that's got Dilbeck six dollars and sixty six cents s cheers Thank You Scots and she cheers to you mm-hmm bazinga X $25 donation says beer Jack Daniels here loll don't forget the key yeah we usually stick with beer it's it's harder - harder to ration your intake when it comes Jack but you know never then we're gonna turn one down Nabil Suleiman with the 500 at Filipino pesos hey Paul visiting the Philippines anytime soon san me on me whenever I'm more of a red horse guy I mean sand me guy I'm five to Sammy but the red horse that's usually my go-to when I'm over there in the pie I do not have any immediate plans to go back and visit but perhaps next year I guess that's this year now because it's it's 2018 for Lala's birthday she's she's in her 90s now wishbone for the $5 donation says do you think battlefield 5 would be Vietnam and also PS 5 specs to be shown at e3 again like they did with the ps4 code name neo III is very popular venue for console announcements so wouldn't be unexpected I don't know if PS 5 is expected soon soon I feel like ps4 is still still got some some time on it and whatever or especially the PlayStation Pro battlefield 5 would be Vietnam I don't know doesn't seem unreasonable said there's been lots of battle battle war games he's 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to you Helly dragon 510 was at $10 at one cent to donation paula member the linux box upgrade question a couple months ago you suggested that upgrade to rise in 3 1300 x over and i7 LGA 1155 upgraded to 1300 X I love it rez and all the things thank you both awesome why is everyone saying thicken chat I'm very particular super thankfully I don't know extra thick super thick thick thickest you guys are weird yep yep pretty much oh the maximun thick cuz I was talking about reading yeah I sure appreciate it that's prob about the worst thing that could have been done okay thank you how the dragon 510 Tyler beer no $5 says I have moved all my hardware to no chassis to fit my card when I try to boot I get six beeps forums don't seem to be helping any thoughts six beeps you actually have a post speaker connected so that's that's unique sometimes there's a chassis intrusion issue that can occur so if you switched from one chassis to another you might need to go in there and switch that off but it's hard to get too much farther than that without many more details as far as your platform and what motherboard you have and everything but yeah it's definitely gonna need to go into the motherboard manufacturers website and see if they have posts beep a charge sometimes love a chart that tells you what is being told to you by those post beeps used to be the post beeps was the only way you could diagnose like a motherboard or something for the delay you got debug LEDs and whatnot so they're not as common but it should be telling you something six beeps in a row is definitely it being like hey my memory is not installed or something like that you forgot the CPU yeah Jake Westall with $10 I can't think of anything to say so shut up and take my money we agree we shall thank you Jake Sebastian you bet Sebastian Casella 100 Argentinians nice to see you guys again which one of these two things gets you going gets you go full triggering on the web ajit pi statements or the applying thermal paste on am dam1 from ms i love the show o applying thermal paste on an AMD am one have isolating that one I mean MSI's and installation videos are they're terrible everything the Apple yeah probably a she's PI right now cuz yes that's got the most that's yeah the most impactful it actually impacts yep Omar Tyndall $10 love you just what's the best mid tower for a balance of airflow and quiet with a glass side panel a balance of airflow and quiet the define r6 is a is a good choice there yeah it's got decent airflow but still has a solid front panel so you won't get a lot of that I was gonna say measure if I see Russia Pisces a good option it's gonna be a little bit louder though cuz there's not quite as much to block the noise but very good air flow of air flow yeah so mmm I guess we're recommending practically this is a paid sponsorship this is that's just what comes to mind because they're recent and yeah yeah there's probably a good Corsair recommendation to but it's not it's not 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wifey sauce kappapride oh yeah that was a little yeah she's next door right now is just probably not very happy with me right now that's okay she never is Mb sixty seven thirteen dollars and 37 cents Paul just watch you know I don't believe for a minute that you cut that you touched Kyle's weenie Thank You ash tag fake news thank you sir thank God for that I'm glad you're standing by me I've made I've stayed I've stated my opposition to the here yes you're right and B he didn't touch my dick my dick touched him right which is a completely different thing right from where I'm sitting yeah I didn't even have to like move that's just how okay Vince feature $11 in 11one11 son's evening boys let us know if you want a GPU for a build to give away to the gamers that view your channel just saying we will supply the GPU for the giveaway Wow it's very generous offer I'm sure you you could just sell that GPU you know and luckily being and like two months of rent depends but thank you thank you Thank You JD ten dollars will resonate peace be the band-aid needed to help new PC builders get a system started also Steve was mad because employees didn't know about the bundle policy and Amazon they would use third-party yes they do use third-party but they also sell stuff themselves as well I think resume P use will be potentially good for people who are looking to get you know get their get their game on on PC but don't really have the money to spend $900 on a miss range or even a high-end graphics card so what we talking about that more on my half though Guido Sarducci $5 Capaldi prefer Thermaltake ring plus RGB or Corsair ll series RGB fan I've only actually worked directly with and used of course I'll series RGB so I can but for them and say they're very good fans I'll be it expensive but you they're really good fans and quiet and cool RGB lights and everything Thermaltake ring plus I I really not worked with directly so they might be just just good to ya thick ring ones are good I feel like the handle does I've worked with them briefly like I've done like a build where I've installed like one of them but I haven't really messed around like their software isn't the greatest granted you know of course their link has its own issues too but at least it integrates with other devices that you might have in your system that are Corsair so it's a bit more integrative in that sense I think the look thing obviously aesthetics is subjective but I do know that the course al series fans do work really well on radiators so excellent let's say let's save this last one for your half okay cuz it's directed at you anyway short and I'm already gonna monk so real quick let's check on people who have ordered stuff from us yeah loading yeah right now or I have to I have to Johnson shoutouts to provide James from Wisconsin I got the thumbscrew heavy metal grey shirt thank you very much in Johnson to you James pal has nothing oh wait no no I have I'm sorry I have James Jones do 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