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my audio is muted there too so we should just stop you live now says we're live okay hi everyone and welcome this is awesome hardware it's a live show we talk about technology computers and that kind of thing we also have a good time with your few beers so quick warning to those of you guys who are just joining us might use some foul language on the show from time to time usually nothing too terrible it's usually warranted in fact most people would be mad if we didn't occasionally use bad words but just wanted to point that out but this show is split into two halves and this is the first half of episode number 139 it is February 13th and we're streaming this half to my channel Paul's hardware in about an hour or so we will finish my half and then we'll switch over and stream the second half - Kyle's channel which is called bit wit and the link to that is in the video's description excuse me along with links to all the stories were going to talk about today so thanks to all you guys for being here whether you're watching on twitch TV / awesome hardware or whether you're watching on youtube we definitely appreciate you guys being here weird huh how's everything going what what it's choppy coffee okay chop-chop someone's saying stutter alright hold on we gotta we have some stutter had to deal with quick lots of dropped frames it says dropped it says zero dropped frames on our end yeah it says zero drop frames - good at all you guys are all liars it'll drop two frames we are his pro we are using a wired Ethernet connection bit rates decent maybe turn the bitrate down a little no you would want the bitrate to be up turn into bitrate up because we're at 60 frames per second I guess that uh oh I know I bet I know what it is I didn't check 60 frames-per-second down here oh and um do you have to do that anymore you don't have to do that anymore yeah when YouTube now that they did it that's the options not even there so it's got to be something with the 60fps cuz we never really stutter and the only difference is that we're using the Riverside now at 60 yeah we usually stream at 30 here when we're at my place and we've never had any stuttering issue since the and it also says twitch is fine but youtube is hot laggy well that sounds like a YouTube thing it's very strange which is good YouTube's dropping well well shit alright you can't do any other and encoding settings right let's uh I'll be right back YouTube yep it's not even using the backup server I don't know we should have we left both once again sorry sorry for that sorry for that delay guys we have switched back to 30 frames per second that's YouTube right yeah yeah that's fine yeah what's good looks it's perfect everything's perfect good from RN everything's fine and everything has been fine and nothing has gone wrong at all so thank you guys for being here knock on wood for sure we are now coming to you live at 1080 1080 30 30 frames per second it doesn't matter anymore yeah I'm gonna talk about should we talk first about why Kyle is in pain uh okay yes we can address that briefly sure I posted something on Twitter on Sunday after my snowboarding accident where I basically caught an edge and sort of face-planted or I guess kind of chest planted cuz I landed on my rib cage but I sort of landed my rib cage landed on my left arm oh that makes sense you're cushioning the blow to your rib cage with your arm I wouldn't say cushioning cuz they both got sort of messed up that when I sat back up there was it looked like my bone was kind of just sticking an inch out of my elbow but it didn't pierce the skin it was just like boom like it was protruding like almost like a pinky had like God was trying to burst out of my skin about hunch even like the guy like the medic guy who is like standing of a staffer who was right there who like saw it happen he like you like take your jacket off let me see it and he's like oh okay um everything's fine like you could tell like I was almost like not their spot yeah he was yeah exactly he was just like wow he's totally on his league right now so I was like well that doesn't look good and then my ribs started feeling really bad and I I got an x-ray done and the x-ray didn't pick up any sort of fractures or or breaks in my ribcage but you can still have like a hairline fracture that an x-ray wouldn't pick up necessarily until you unless you go to a specialist so that may be what what happened at any rate it hurts to to breathe to inhale deeply moving any sudden movements or even like small movements like getting up out of my chair is kind of tough right now walking I have to walk really slow so if I say I'll just randomly throughout the stream now you guys know what's going on we have an explanation I have Tourette's I didn't develop Tourette's over the weekend or so the bone that just just probably somehow just it's slowly like just like it just slowly went back into place it was this really obvious deformity that kind of just corrected itself in a few hours and by the time we like they took me on a toboggan down the mountain toboggan which was not humiliating at all and then once I was in the patrol room like a couple hours later I took my jacket off again it had gone down like halfway and the guy was like whoa like that's that's I mean that's weird but that's good and then eventually just kind of went back into place there's still a massive bruise in it it's really painful to touch but imagine all things considered I'm like Wolverine when he heals himself but not quite as fast yes that's right see what you can do yeah I'm like I'm like Wolverines you know reject brother who didn't get into the Academy that's awesome Charles Xavier girl just so everything's good everyone be careful if you if you participate in the winter sports yeah yeah I saw Chloe Kim do it on TV oh yeah she's easy-peasy she's 17 here's my back-to-back 1080s on the way she's from Torrance she yeah our whole making of a reckon you'd do movements that might be uncomfortable Oh beer could you could you grab a couple more beers I could okay in the meantime I'm going to quickly plug our stories help support Kyle and his his pain and deformation right now by buying stuff at our stores my store is pulsar Burnett and I have shirts mugs pint glasses bottle openers key caps it's all real nice stuff so check it out and buy things if you buy stuff during the show we will shout out your name at the end of the show along with the word Johnson it's glorious CalSTRS bit with that text live store he's got new CPU cooler dark gray Heather t-shirts this is that's right that's right here yep that it was a really nice plastic smile Engler i've had i've owned one of those for so long and I've been wearing it in videos and stuff people like why can't I find the gray one on your store like that it's not inside we don't sell it until now so it's finally there let the people have go wild what they want yeah and these ones are coming soo this is actually a sample sent to us by or sent to me by our t-shirt guy John who's an awesome dude and I don't let me know what you guys think of this cuz it's Intel but it's it's logos artist Lee it's kind of sparkly it's a sort of a metallic metallic print it's got a sheen to it a shimmer up close you will see ya a little shimmery up close but from afar it doesn't look too bad doesn't look too glitzy call it the bit whit glitter bit shirt glitter glitter bit a little bit little bit this is a glitter bitch I'll know something I wouldn't say like the bit with glitter good shirt I'm gonna tell John to put that as the product I have I have one with my logo oh thank you I've one with my logo in that same finish so definitely interested in your feedback you guys do in the meantime let's go into our first segment which is I don't have any of these broken well then our first our first segment though it's gonna be news juice which I don't it's not set up so we'll just say good news all right Oh Nicky Kyle starting out just so smoothly hardware is where our first article comes from and this is a bit of leaked info it's actually derived from sighs soft sand rebenchmarking sweets on the intel core i7 coffee lake each CPU benchmarks so coffee lake you guys are probably familiar with these are going to be new CPUs that are based on the coffee lake architecture 14 nanometer plus plus or so the the nomenclature goes they're gonna have a basically this is the specific CPU is called AI 788 58 and it's gonna have a base clock 2.6 gigahertz boost clock is not known yet but there's speculation on that later on 9 megabyte l3 cache according to the actual information while the actual screenshots that they have here from South Sandra 4 results here that came in for a couple of their different tests so the arithmetic benchmark test on the 6 quarts well that's a big thing about this 8850 it's a 6 quart 12 thread so it's similar to 8700 cake yep but it scored one hundred and fifty nine point two one compare it to the four core eight thread previous generation mobile part 7820 HQ which is can be like that squared 117 so 117 up to 159 but here we're looking we're looking at kind of a similar thing when you looked at like a 7700 K to an 8700 K in that a lot of the gains come from the fact that you got two more cores and four more threads to work with but there's also a bit that's a slight improvement when it comes to actual per thread performance with coffee lake so that's good to have and this chips only gonna have a 45 watt TDP so that's cool so probably gonna see it integrated into notebooks laptops perhaps also like all-in-one monitors or like like the all-in-one units that uses like a slim monitor frame but also puts the the PC in it and that kind of thing like an iMac like a PC iMac yeah one of those because yeah apparently people like those I mean there been some cool ones like the the 34:40 by 1440 you know widescreen 34 inch widescreen they take one of those and then like build a computer under there I like the upgradable ones yes so you can sort of access the parts and stuff and you could potentially see something like this being integrated onto a custom motherboard that still has an upgradable graphics card for example mm-hmm this is a mobile part so it's probably gonna be BGA yeah I don't see yeah I mean it's definitely unbe BGA the other benchmark is the processor multimedia benchmark and the 88 58 scored 373 on that compared to the 78 20 HQ which scored 347 347 373 it's also rumored that the 1850 H is gonna have an integrated u HD graphics 630 which is the you know an upgrade from the last generation but still you're not gonna expect a huge amount of performance out of that its Intel integrated graphics but potentially could have turbo up to 4 gigahertz on all six cores as well as a 4.3 gigahertz single core turbo so it's pretty nice yeah I mean really impressive specs especially considering its a 45 watt TDP mobile chip and for higher-end laptops especially if you need to do video editing on the go or something like that I probably some it's pretty cool computers pair pair pretty nicely with the discrete GPU in there yeah and Intel if they're being more competitive when it comes to the mobile space it probably has a little bit to do with the fact that AMD is actually starting to be more competitive there too because they're starting to integrate Rison CPUs and Vega GPUs onto various chips in various configurations including the Intel chip with the Vega graphics on it yeah moving on wah wah whee-wah whee-wah wave is fun I was one of those cell phone brands that I'm never quite positive how to pronounce Huawei though did a little promotional thing to try to get some feedback on their presale for their upcoming flagship phone the mate 10 Pro it is currently available for pre-order in the United States this article's from the verge the original report came from nine to five Google and they spotted fake reviews for the mate ten Pro on Best Buy's website fake reviews from huawei themselves no no no no they but they're actually from people it's and it's probably it's pretty much for sure because of this promotion that they ran on their Facebook page January 31st they did a Facebook contest acts asking people to leave comments on the best buy pre sale page the pre sale page for the for the mate 10 Pro and in exchange they got a chance to beta test one of them but people went a little bit overboard and there's some actual screenshots and the 9 to 5 Google article on this and started posting actual like some of them were honest some of them were like hey I don't actually have this but 5 stars right you know based on Yahweh's reputation or I had an honor 8fo and then it was cool so looking forward to this one or some people were just like hey I'm posting this because I want to get a you know part of the beta test program right every this guy says he's had one but he got it for a fat up for free for a photographer views so Huawei wasn't even telling them to write reviews they were telling them specifically to go to this landing page and comment in this other unrelated field yeah people just took it upon themselves like maybe maybe some people think well if I give them a five-star review maybe it'll increase my odds of yeah getting slow there's definitely been plenty of accusations and a lot of it accurate and and warranted against like fake reviews and stuff this doesn't seem to be necessarily you know there's not a Lynne tent here right I don't think because they were just asking for comments on the pre-sale page yeah which is a good way of getting like buzz and whatever you might you know sure may get better index by Google or something if people are traveling there a lot but point being people wouldn't post it the reviews on actual phone and now you have a phone that's not available for sale and it has really good fuses that's a little sketchy do you know if Best Buy trying to like take those down they have interview so the reviews have been removed by best by the Facebook group that they posted that continental things who had 60,000 members so some of them were overzealous and when posted yeah all right by the way windows keeps bugging me so you guys get to watch Windows Update in the background wow that's exciting okay alright let's let's preface this next article very interesting things to talk about what we are about to talk about but very much in the category of rumor rumor speculation probably not true could be true but we have no real reason to believe it's true grain of salt it's on wucf tech and whenever we talk about a WCC of tech article we always say a grain of salt and everything like that but I want to give credit where credit is due they're very upfront about that too he says very clearly let me begin this is nothing but a rumor at this point it's not even a leak it's not coming from one of their trusted sources or anything like that this is from a website called 3d Center and it's a post on the 3d Center forums and 3d Center is a German website where they talk about technology and that kind of thing so yeah 3d center.org I should say basically the rumor states that the next gen NVIDIA GPU lineup will not be based on volta as has been expected for some time if you look at any of the Nvidia roadmaps and everything there's there's Pascal and then there's Volta up above it they will instead be based on a new name that they've inserted ampere so the ampere architecture also again if the rumor is to be believed the GP 102 which is the code name for the GPU that the 1080 Ti and the Titan X and the techn XP is based on the big Pascal basically has already been transitioned to end-of-life and will soon be replaced with the GA series so GP GeForce Pascal series 102 is the biggest one and then they have 104 which is like what the 1080 is based on and then but 106 and 107 and anyways so GA would be g-force and peer when they come out with Volta stuff to code and it will be GV and there's already some GV based stuff and the and the in the enterprise space and supposedly a ga 104 a ga 104 based GPU launched April 12th possibly the GTX 2080 or gtx 2070 you would expect the next version of the 104 so right now like you said GP 104 is with the 1080 is based on so if they make AG a 104 it would probably probably be based v what they would use for the 1080 equivalents and we could assume that they would make it 1070 equivalents as well we don't we have no idea if they're going to continue this again this naming scheme that they've been using so 20 80 20 70 I felt like when they did 1080 everyone's like are they really going to do a 1080 because it sounds like like 1920 by 1080 right it's really for 4k and stuff this is more like 20 80 20 70 like this just difficult to say yeah it's it's challenging that how many syllables in your mouth yeah but anyway they would be unveiling in March and launching it in April on April 12 the I'm know it's kind of confusing here is to talking about end-of-life of the GP 102 which is what the 1080 CI is based on and it seems a little weird that they would end of life that well at the same time potentially bringing out products that are a step below but we could maybe assume that that means that whatever the GTX 2080 might be might be on the equivalent performance level as a 1080 Ti yeah that's a possibility yeah wonder how pricing will be yeah of course pricing is a huge question and pricing as in what they tell us the MSRP is versus what they actually sell for I mean there was plenty of that even when the even when the 1080 first launched and the 1070 and what I mean 1070 MSRP was originally supposed to be 3 370 yeah and they were never really available for that I mean they were kind of Canada but the blower style yeah you know adding board partner versions so if this is if this happened rumour Rumour maybe whatever it would be a second quarter 2018 launch so that'll be exactly two years since they launched GP 104 based ten eighty and ten seventy two years ago in twenty sixteen two years ago also adding to the potential viability of this rumor is the fact that GDC and GTC are both held in March so that's the Game Developers Conference as well as GeForce Technology Conference game developers conference is more of an industry-wide thing GPS technologies conference is more of a Nvidia based thing but both potentially venues where they might what are you doing yeah so potential venues for an announcement for something like this and that's pretty much all there is to it article if you guys do want to read it as a little bit more if you guys want some of the other details and speculation everything but again we were murdered speculation and all that good stuff it would appear if again if this is true that ampere if it is actually a thing is like it's another 16 nanometer refinements so like Pascal refines my scale architecture refine I doubt this is something that's actually ten nanometer which is what Volta is supposed to be based on and also not sure what this means for Volta in the mainstream consumer space and how that might affect that but all things said you know companies like Nvidia need to continue releasing products we didn't see much in 2017 because there wasn't much to compete with that they needed to launch to compete with we saw that 210 70 TI towards the end of the year which is really kind of a like really weird product for them to come out with yeah but they can't do that forever they can't just keep being like well we're still not seeing a lot of competition so we'll just still stick with 1080i and everything they need to do something so this is a possible then you know way they could go hopefully that I mean yields would be really good since there's still be using the same manufacturing process and that kind of thing yeah but if there is any actual viability or truth to this hopefully we can bring you more on its soon or at some points in the future we get some juicy details or rumors even on AMD cards in the near future too yeah all right let's talk about Equifax we've talked about it several times here on the show because it's a it's a hack that happened last year Equifax lost the personal information of about a hundred and twelve one hundred forty five point five million Americans as well as other people around around the world that's but if you participated in the American credit system then chances are your data was stolen and we bring it back up because we talked about it last week because they they decided that they're not going to pursue investigation of this at least the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau isn't going to do that and we just brought that up because it was kind of crappy I don't know why this video isn't playing but whatever this article is over on TechRepublic if you guys want to check it out more to the point though it's now been revealed that it's worse than originally thought yes that is true Oh JA Equifax for their part as this new information is coming to light said hey we never when we told you hey we lost all this data and everything we never said by the way that's everything we never clarified then this is the beginning and end of it so we were under no obligation to tell you about all this extra stuff that happened to they've known about this not telling us the full truth is the same as lying this is not the fact this is not stuff that was like we only just discovered it they knew it was missing they knew the data was stolen they just didn't tell everyone all those details about it so that's super sweet of them never has been revealed that tax identification numbers email addresses and driver's license information has also been stolen making it yet that much more simple for someone to impersonate you and you know buy stuff with your creditors or that kind of thing this is on top of all the original stuff that was stolen in the hack names Social Security numbers dates of birth current and former address is the new information seems to have been revealed just after the that see that Consumer Financial Protection Bureau stuff was just announced which was like a week week and a half ago but I do want to point out there's a follow-up article here that I found um Wall Street Journal which is to say that the chief of the CFPB who is Mike McMullen II says that it's not actually true he says there has been no change in the position from the previous leadership of the CFPB regarding Equifax so according to him and this articles from today they are still looking into it who knows but do want to point out that the FTC is it has had and continues to have an ongoing independent investigation of the breach so I'm sure they will be brought to justice and the people responsible will be forced to apologize to each and every one of us always happens yeah anyway its crappy but everyone keep an eye on your credits and if you're able to then freeze your credit that's the best way to keep because in my opinion like at this point like the credit system in the u.s. it's like it's really a failing on their part and I'm like why do I even want to participate in this anymore can I just opt out of the system you can't yeah cuz they've already got you I don't remember opting in where that matter that's true they just kind of start collecting your information and creating a profile on you and that kind of thing which is which is you don't really need to opt in for anything these days to actually be in it yeah so they kind of just do whatever they want with your information the world we live in it's frustrating but information age has turned against us it's the type of thing I feel like shouldn't we shouldn't stop talking about so I'll getting it up from time to time hopefully absolutely some things I concur stories are published upon lines all right twitch is gonna ban users for heat but not just on twitch that's right if you're a twitch streamer and you're like you know what on twitch I'm really nice to people and you know that's really cool and twitches like my home base and everything but then on other platforms like on on Twitter or on YouTube or other social media platforms you're like a dick and you like cuss people out and you're racist and and tell women that they're inferior and stuff like that then you could still be banned from twitch that's good yeah oh they're expanding their policy basically to include other venues other than twitch so abuse taking place on other platforms can contribute to a suspension this includes hate or harassment conduct that twitch deems hateful on any platform will result in an immediate indefinite suspension sexual conduct rules have also been changed to consider the context of a stream and this is because there's sort of a really fine line that twitch has to has to ride between the popularity of some streamers due to their let's say looks versus people who are exploiting viewership with their looks because obviously twitch doesnt want to be a platform where you know people are distributed but your hand girls pieces cam dude I'm the boobie streamer category obviously that I mean that's it that's the thing with the term it's referenced in the story and I really yes because there's a streamer can occur because there's there's Sabha the better phrasing look I don't know if there's a male version of the boobie streamer as well why not or something like that bad boobs this accusation is that they're there and they wear you know low you know low-cut tops with lots of cleavage and everything yeah and their image is really big on the screen versus whatever game they're playing and now that there's IRL category as well there's like reverse there's like their boobs are fullscreen and then they're yeah then the game the bottom right so since which has to say alright on the one hands you know views are views and the more people viewing our contents the better because that's how they grow they're their platform and everything like that on the other on the other hand they have advertising partnerships that they that they set up and advertisers want to make sure and this is of course been affected been something we've talked about with YouTube as well advertisers want to make sure that if they're putting their ad in front of something that that thing that ads going in front of is wholesome or at least enough that the people are going to get offended and be like why are you supporting this right with your ad money's or whatever so twitch was careful here to indicate that one the sexual conduct rules have been changed to consider the context which provides them a bit of leeway in how they assess streams so some streams might be more okay than others so clutch it's gonna be like oh that girls like some girls are just feel attractive you know right and if you're just a really strictly Bo and you get lots of viewers I mean you're not doing anything wrong welcome to advertising but ever and ever in the world that's it but you're not necessarily exploiting it or whatever you just happen to be attractive and have lots of users you know there's nothing inherently wrong with that someone who's actively trying to push the limits of you know sexuality and you know going towards erotic or something like that is something that they want to be able to cut down on at the same time they're watching for abuse of this rule they say we will not tolerate using this policy as a basis to harass streamers on or off twitch so they're saying you can't go and report someone for this if they are not actually abusing the rule right so but it's sort of a gray area too because it's sort of subjective it is whether or not someone exploiting you know that's why they say can disappear and considering context exactly yeah if so that's the tricky part if someone is an IRL or something like that and and you're doing work you know but if people do stay stream workouts or whatever right yeah from very suspicious angles or you know like or or maybe it's just to work out and people work out in spandex you know that's very common yeah all right it's a girl streaming at home and she's just wearing yoga pants but she's somehow for some reason needs to every three minutes to like turn her back to the camera yeah like get another glass of water for the eighth time and that is issue that is where that word context becomes so important of course because and and that's where you need an actual person to go and watch that and see what's being streamed and seeing if it's over the line or if it's just somebody who's you know doing their thing and then and they happen to have a nice but there's probably just a new board a new board of members at twitch called like the but police or like I mean there has patrols if they're hiring I would not a bad deal then again I'd take the pickup you'd have to deal with all variety of no anyway more on that or a minute yep any windows finally updated excellent let me go back to the desktop these guidelines will come into effect February 19th alrighty so you're wondering so that's six a week week from yesterday all right so let's move on to the next segment which is certified so everything's broken and I can fix this at least for when we get to your half hey I'm in a certain fight and I don't have that setup so I put my effing cat my PC there whatever we're doing doing later oh wow okay typical Windows we go again about here ready to go all right so we both did videos on the launch that just happens of the new AMD APU so 2200 G 24 to G nice little products yeah I like them I dig them I like them I think they're very well positioned right now because graphics cards are so expensive and we need them badly but even that's the thing that sucks like even with not needing to buy a graphics card because memory is so expensive you part out something with one of these ap use it's still like a $600 system yeah I need to look at it look get it again it depends on what memory you're going with but you know you want to get some decently fast memory so right and capacity matters too yeah so and since you're using some of the system memory as part of as the GPU memory because the APU is got the built-in graphics built in Vega GPU but that doesn't have memory on it so it uses your system memory for the graphics memory and that cuts into your available sit overall system memory so whereas before a budget system with an eight gigs of memory would probably get you by just fine you know with it if you had a discrete graphics card now you're looking at all right eight gigs minus one one gig for the GPU plus if you want to increase the available amount for the GPU can do that as well so yeah there's still some dilemmas to get past but good products but anyway yeah were you did you look at all over the weekend and see any of the stuff that son of a tech posted no okay so a set of the tech is a tech tech channel okay he has 26,000 subscribers okay and I can't figure out his name because he says his name really fast at the beginning of the videos but anyway his channel is called son of a Tech this video is linked down in the description he basically went and ordered from Amazon one of the 24 hundred G's on Friday ok and they shipped it to him and it arrives Saturday morning so he spent all day Saturday did a 10 hour livestream of just testing the 2400 g playing games and doing some overclocking and stuff like that ok I kind of caught a little bit about it because I saw a couple people tweeting about it here and there and then on Sunday he actually posted his review which he called the world's first risin for 2400 G Raven review now since his heart fight and in sword fight we have to argue about something I'll bring up the argument point here okay I caught a little bit of a little bit back and forth between him and Joker we know Joker from poker reviews yep and Joker was a little bit he wasn't happy but son of a tech because Joker like us working directly with AMD received samples of these two CPUs from AMD right and when you do that you have to agree to an a review embargo right which means you say until this specific date and time I will not post any content about this sure any reviews or anything like that and he was basically saying that son of a Tech should not have done this that he was he was it was underhanded underhanded and sneaky and that he should have abided by the review embargo right so that's what we're gonna argue here and you guys please go ahead and let us know by voting on this drop whole what you think was it okay for set of a text to post this pre embargo content about the rise in 520 400 G no I can't speak for certain as to how familiar he is with like I mean I'm sure he knew there was an embargo he knew this is an upcoming product right they went up for pre-sale so that's how he was able to order it right I don't know he if he was aware of the specific date and time of the embargo I don't know if he worked with anyone in order to get like any drivers for like the Vega for the Vega graphics or anything like that sure so you know I don't wanna make any assumptions about that but basically we have two options you got no you should have waited or yes he can cuz he bought it and he can do do what he wants with it so okay I'll let you I'll give you the honors here and if you guys have never seen us do do do a swordfight before our our mission is to argue for our side regardless of what we actually actually thinks um I just want to point that out and thank you for linking that in chat cell and Kyle indeed um okay so do I go first yeah you can go first okay um I'm gonna say I think yes I'll say yes it was okay for him to do it okay for it I think the issue is really between AMD and and because I feel like if Amazon sent him a sample early or a product early and Amazon was aware that AMD had this NDA or embargo that they were trying to adhere to that Amazon as a retailer I would think would seek approval or permission from AMD and ask this is okay to send this sample or to sell the sample early to this tech channel because I don't know this guy might not even have a connection to AMD he might be struck I mean if he's going through Amazon for his sample I mean that tells you right there he probably didn't doesn't have a close enough relationship to the vendor to to acquire the sample directly so maybe that means he probably didn't get the press deck or the reviewers guide or anything from anyone at AMD that said you can't post any content about this until this time on this date so whether or not and yeah it's debatable because maybe he did know that the embargo was gonna lift 6 a.m. Pacific time on Monday but without any sort of contractual contract contract or agreement I don't think he's legally at fault here I think you know the person who gave it to him is which would be Amazon now of course you could argue that you know from an ethical standpoint maybe he should have not not done that 10 hour stream you know a day or two before launch anyway if he knew himself deep down that he wasn't supposed to but again you're talking death achill versus lawful and that's that sort of that's my argument that's all I got tell me why I'm wrong Paul so tell me about your prevaricate infertility salesman oh I seems like you just tried to sell me a load of bullshit Wow that's what that was a clever it was very good I think you didn't have to argue your point now I know that was a knife way too long to just come up that alright so just just argue the opposite side here sun protection should have waited here it was disrespectful I think when it comes down to is his respect for the community of reviewers who get free stuff sent to them all the time by manufacturers because obviously you know when people when the reviewers get those products they're all held to an embargo agreements and there's a there's a level of respect for the other people that you work with in the Revere community because the embargo agreements if someone breaks it they are taking advantage of everyone else in that circle they're breaking the circle of trust and you never want to break the circle of trust now a set of attack obviously you know he's a youtuber he's got a channel he's building the channel and when you build a channel with technology on YouTube you know you you you want to make sure that you ingratiate yourself so the others who are already part of that community because they're obviously all very respectable honorable good people very intelligence handsome and extremely well endowed and I would want to make sure that those people had a good opinion of me all the time and pulling something like this is just it's it's just it's the height of disrespect this grace can't I can't disgraceful I mean I I am I am ashamed to even repeat the name of his channel son of a tech and I would never at all encourage people to go to a channel like that especially by putting a link to his video in my video description that would be a bad idea that'd be a terrible idea I would never do it and son of a Tech shame on you you are a son of a tech okay as your name suggests let's move on no let's let's not move on alright let's never move on let's never let's stay here forever all right let's see what do you guys think about this results everyone agrees with Kyle yay 82% so you were definitely taking the underdog approach yeah underdogs standpoint so I figured that would be the the majority as a lot of you guys mentioned in chat and NDA it is something that you have to agree to between the reviewer and said you know corporation or company and since the guy never really agreed to anything he's not contractually obligated yes and um and I will say having you know I was laying my sarcasm on there pretty pretty thick this I would mainly agree with everything with everything cattle said in his argument I think there is some gray area depending on how much you do work directly with with the manufacturers and that kind of thing but in this specific situation I think he did what I would have done in his situation which is when that package arrives Saturday morning realize wow this is an opportunity to get some eyeballs on this and be the first and being first yeah is version price why people like to be first I can't say if I was in his exact position I wouldn't do the same yeah that's you I said I probably was at 26 K subs I mean you're trying to like how do you stand out you know against and he and I believe I believe I don't have the the threat pulled up or anything like that but I believe he said that he actually did communicate with AMD as well an AMD in that situation they might have asked him say like hey can you take this down or whatever but he was under no obligation to write and I don't think that from what I heard oh he's in here hey sign of attack oh hey how's it going what up thanks for being here yeah it's a good thing to talk about and maybe a perspective that not everyone everyone gets if you're a viewer of the tech youtubes versus someone who's creating content or that kind of thing yeah all right it's uh I would I did not break thread repair embargo rules I had an email that told me it was okay to do that I just didn't see the follow up email that said they changed their mind wow that was that what Wow Kent I can't trust you anytime hey if someone tells you it's okay to do something and you go ahead and do that thing what's what's the problem oh yeah I see no problem right alright let's say let's continue discussion we talked about twitch a little bit and some of their updated rules YouTube also has been dealing with ongoing issues a lot of this is fallout from the whole Logan Paul thing there's an article on this over on TechCrunch they are now saying and have stated very clearly and forcefully that they will potentially take action they announced a more formal and wider set of sanctions they're prepared to level at any creator that starts to post that posts videos that are harmful to viewers or others in the YouTube community or advertisers because I think they probably in their heart of hearts advertisers would have been first on that list but yeah but you got it you know you got to include everyone sure so yeah they've actually already done this to look and Paul twice and I want to try never to say his name again it will remove monetization options on the videos so access to the advertising programs at YouTube has and they also may remove a channels eligibility to be to be recommended on YouTube such as appearing on the home page trending tab or watch next and monetization may or may not be a big deal to a youtuber has a huge following and already has lots of money because there's a certain point when you get to a certain level of viewership there's there's so many views coming in then so much ad revenue that money probably becomes less of an issue right but if people can't find your videos to watch them and suddenly your popularity tanks and suddenly your videos aren't getting views anymore that might be a bigger deal so this might be a consequence that that actually has effects who knows we'll have to have to wait and see how people actually respond to this or a few tube actually goes ahead and enforces it anywhere so obviously our days are numbered that's really what it comes down to here Kyle and I we don't we don't really have high standards and better jump on that float plane soon Paul yeah I know I'm still waiting for my my gilded invitation low well we're still waiting for the site to be delivered by Luke in it what Saul just let's all just like go to Luke and be like you're not working hard enough Luke wait wait were you slacking so much what are you suck breath I just I feel like Luke Lucas needs to roll up and go in a limo with like you know like the really like nice three-piece suit like opens it up slice wimps come on over here and then like I get in there's like you know surprise some models were there and we all have champagne or something like that just like Linus and Etzel and in like a bikini oh yeah yeah and it's all very tasteful of course and the models are paid well mr. respectful but then then he's like let me show you what float what float plane is all about what flood plane really is and I can't I can't continue beyond there because because you don't know I'll tell you tell you Paul once you get inside that limo yeah you're never the same so all this being said the next question that we'd like to argue and have you guys answer and let us know what you think this is really I'm doing some research here we totally find what profession should Kyle and I start looking into a little bit you know we have we have some overlap time here where we can get some kind of on-the-job training so to speak we could maybe we could maybe get ourselves set up I suppose so that Thank You self for posting Lincoln chat I was on it we have a wide variety of options here assassin of course we got professional arm flailing competitive chef all our reality TV I got a construction worker sexy the pool boy sexier assistant to the regional manager sexiest and accounting exotic dancing commercial airline pilot and then of course hardcore porn actor or behind the scenes yeah which I mean I just I know people I can also notice our lower core and I feel like there was there's too much too many obvious potential jobs that would just fit you know they'd just be the right fit it would just be the right fit yeah so actor obviously in front of the camera behind the scenes behind so you got your fluffer you got your director DP yeah you know there's a see what you did there as well so uh what do you think here actually no you went first last time I'm gonna yeah you go all right uh I'm gonna go with what do I want to do though I want to do the most hmm you know I know I don't feel like I could go back into the hardcore porn world I just it's been it's been too long that's where that soul patch was first forged it's the flavor savor it still still got some flavor so sounds so wrong in that context all right I'm gonna go I'm gonna go for accounting I feel like at this point I just want something stable something reasonable something where you know things just add up and I can make counting yeah out of all the things you picked literally you picked the most boring option I know who boy would have been more exciting cuz pool boy that ties it right back into hardcore porn actor you know I mean how many times does a pool boy get lucky compared to the accountant look accountants Oh accountants they make decent money you know usually you've got benefits oh that's very exciting with it and it's like that you all that you left all behind we look at we've resigned from new hey I really feel I want to go back I really feel like I'd like to spend more time working with Excel I think is what it comes down to and and you know I think that's really why it's really where my passion is I only want to take up golf to or something well I don't know the kazoo I mean maybe I'm maybe crook maybe I'm free maybe you should just start crocheting maybe I'm playing the long game here maybe maybe never mind never mind for that I don't want an instability I don't want to say too much so what about you what do you think I am I will be an assassin and I will I will hold you at gunpoint I will hold you at gunpoint until you agree to leave your accounting days behind because I will not stand around and watch you waste your life and potential and talent as a lowly accountant swine so all right I mean that's that's what I will use my assassin it's very reasonable my assassin abilities you know you know make it challenging to be an assassin also being a porn actor would be a video where you announce to people that you're gonna be an assassin I don't think if you really wanted to be an assassin that you'd probably be interested in a cover for that maybe something that was unassuming that people wouldn't possibly think hey maybe that accountants actually an assassin but I'll leave it to you that makes your own choice that's how good of an assassin I would be is I could be in the public eye in front of millions of people and they'd still never see me coming just like a hardcore porn actor sorry that was terrible feeling you like another beer sure sure why not all right let's see what you guys think with it I'm really we have to go with whatever people say all right court Wow hardcore porn taking the lion's share of the vote but it looks like most more people want us to stay on camera I think that's really what we should what we should derive from this I think that's people want to see our faces definitely not our possibly other parts of us now - yeah well I keep that in mind okay but you know behind the scenes - is also possible professional arm 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