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and that's not necessarily the case this time but what the hell we do segments so I had to break things up somehow the AMD risin 526 hundred at least an engineering sample of the horizons 520 600 excuse me has apparently appeared on the Geekbench database so as is often the case with early unreleased Hardware people get their hands on it and they test it they test it on systems that are connected to the internet with software that reports the results of tests to the Internet and what do you know you end up with early results like this so the actual processor name is listed here is AMD risin ZD 2600 BB m6 8 AF underscore blah blah the 2600 is there in the name though it is a 6 quart 12 threat processor so pretty safe bet that this was a rise in to 2600 CPU that was tested here it's listed with a base frequency of 3.6 gigahertz boost clock 3.8 gig arts so 1,600 credit successor 1600 successor and the 1600 is one of the most popular and I've recommended it many many times to really awesome 6 for 12 Terra processor and has often been really really well priced as well so this is pretty exciting for anyone who's looking forward to the launch of risin 2 which has been promised already by AMD in April I feel like it's April 12th but is that great let ya I don't remember anyway I'm sure will confirm that soon but Verizon too is gonna be based on Zen plus so Zen is the microarchitecture that AMD first was was their first big microarchitecture launch in five six seven years back in 20 last year and it's it's pretty good they've improved upon it and also done a bit of a - a bit of a process shrink I should say from 14 nanometer which was a manufacturing process for original Zen into twelve ninety beer now there's also going to be Zen - that has been talked about by AMD and that's a seven nanometer process that's further out in the future so we're not talking about that quite yet but there is some potential confusion between Rison - versus n - risin - uses n plus twelve nanometer and it's launching in April so the exciting thing here is that this processor 2600 3.4 gigahertz base clock 3.8 gigahertz boosts clock please bear in mind this is all early information and this is all based just on this Geekbench score so you know this is we're not verifying this AMD hasn't come out and said this is all true but it seems to be pretty reasonable for what's being said here now the actual score is what we're talking about here because it's pretty impressive 4269 is the score here now there's also I have here for comparison just a baseline score for horizon 5 1600 this is just the non overclocked out of the box score which has a base clock of 3.2 gigahertz and a boost clock of 3.6 gigahertz so the 2600 has a 200 megahertz frequency benefit right out of the box over the 1600 out of the box however we're not necessarily looking at just that same linear performance increase we're looking at perhaps in instructions per clock improvement as well which iswhich is which is cool so this score 4269 versus the 1,600 score of three thousand eight hundred ninety six is a nine point five percent increase the multi-core score here of twenty thousand one hundred and two versus the sixteen hundred score of seventeen thousand four hundred thirty three is a fifteen point three percent increase and pair minds the book the the actual frequency difference if you're just looking at a percentage difference is about five point five percent so if you were looking at a linear increase in clock speed of a five percent boost then you would expect a five percent performance increase if you're looking at the same architecture in the same instructions per clock so the deduction here is that those rise into seems to have better instructions per clock then then rise in one right so that's cool and you would hope so note hope so because it's a it's because they have had more time to refine the architecture and also that they're doing again a little bit of a node shrink from 40 nanometer down to twelve nanometer which can improve died area as well as efficiency a lot of the time so is a second trend rising also the one whether like improving the memory channels and and higher speed memory support for for the platform so technically like I I mean you would again that's once something you would hope and probably also something that you would expect AMD to put some focus on because memory some amount on it does have such an impact on risings performance you would think that because you know the memory manufacturers like you look at G skills press releases there every couple weeks or every month they come out with the new press release that says G skill has now launched the fastest memory ever we now have a forty seven hundred speed kit or whatever they're putting out yeah and that means a G skill is putting out memory that's when paired with a processor that supports that speed will hit that it reliably hit that every time yeah but the processor needs to be able to hit that it's definitely it seems to be worth AMD's while to invest more and more stability for higher speed memory because if that's really gonna scale up the performance then that makes them look better against the Intel yeah and also it provides a wider range of compatibility for anyone who's looking for memory to pair with their new horizon to processor mm-hmm so they also mentioned in the article is just the comparison here that if we're looking at a 200 megahertz frequency increase with the 1600 from the from the 1600 to the 2600 that you might reasonably assume that the same frequency increase would apply to other CPUs in the lineup so if the 1800 X is going to be replaced and rise in to with the 2800 X right then maybe we'll see a 4.2 gigahertz clock speed with that as opposed to the 4 gigahertz the 1800 X has and then of course also to be mentioned here is that precision boost 2 is a refinement of original precision boost that AMD has worked on with rise into and that also could be affecting this performance so we might might not be looking at a straight instructions per clock improvements or this might not all be attributable directly to that it might also be to efficiency improvements of precision boost as far as how its ramping up and ramping down and and yeah that kind of think so of course more to be talked about with that as we get closer to launch but still cool little story there and hopefully some hopefully that plays out because we're really looking it's a a decent amount of IPC performance improvement then that means AMD is going to be even further pushing Intel when it comes to competition I feel like I feel like the the 2600 at 3.8 gigahertz have a boost overclocking that we should be able to see over 4 gigahertz which if you guys remember risin 1 only the 1800 X was like one of the few chips that was like a surefire way to hit 4 gigahertz 4.0 gigahertz on Rison on before platform and now potentially we're gonna see rising five chips topping the clock speeds that we were seeing with an 1800 X which is cool and that's one of the things that they emphasize at the AMD CES tech day and stuff that rising to was gonna emphasize higher clock speeds throughout and at better overclocking performance to sort of catch up with ya the types of frequencies that we're seeing with Intel platforms so said and you would expect that also to narrow the gap when it comes to GPU performance which it is niche when it comes to comparisons as it is when it comes to like coffee like versus Rison but it's still one of the areas where Andy likes behind but you expect it to catch up a bit excuse me if this is actually the case yeah let's move on though to next story samsung has managed to cram 30 terabytes of SSD storage onto a single 2.5 inch I want I want not oh there it is I don't want the price though yeah so this is undeniably and and unquestionably an enterprise drive so the samsung PM 1 6 4 3 is what we're looking at right here enterprise drives always have catchy names for the their SKUs thirty point seven two terabytes of SSD and a single 2.5 inch drive as well as 40 gigs of DDR for what yeah this SSD has more ddr4 than like the majority of the people watching this video right now the hood like 32 gigs is what I have in most of my systems that are that I use for video editing and stuff like that so this 40 oh my god 40 gigs of DDR fours that are integrated there as well it's for cash yeah what's up it's powered by nine of flash controllers driving 32 one terabyte packages of NAND flash each package contains 16 layer NAND mean 3 bit per cell v-nand 512 gigabits per package 40 gigs of DDR 4 memory also is in there and that's kind of weird too according to the article those are eight gigabit chips built using through-silicon vias or via I've never heard of this before I'm just repeating what the article says you know TSVs but basically it's so that then the ddr4 ram chips can be stacked vertically they're assembled into ten packages each of four gigabytes the interface is twelve gigabits per second SAS or serial Attached Guzzi actual performance four hundred thousand IAP reed which is pretty nice fifty thousand IAP s'right and did hero just move the thank yous no it's okay he's good thanks oh he's trying to swipe it yeah what are you doing dead name I'm just I'm just worried if he if he bumps the camera I thought he did but he went back down hey he's doing a better here's fine yes him yeah society fifty thousand random right i ops 21,000 random read I ops so you know read and write performance so twenty-one hundred megabytes megabytes per second sequential read seventeen hundred megabytes per second so clincial rate so that's right up there with a pretty decent not the highest end I'm not too and MDMA drive like a 960 pro but right up there with the middle-of-the-road ones so that's that's pretty good especially considering the the overall capacity of the drive durability is one full drive rate per day basically 30 terabyte drive rights per day over the five-year lifetime of the drive and apparently they just started manufacturing these back in January so they're not available yet but they've announced to confirm the 30 terabyte version a 15 point three six terabyte version seven point six eight terabyte version 3 point 8 4 terabyte for effect I should just round these right terabyte one for Tara buy two terabyte one terabyte and eight hundred gigabytes essentially it's really one point nine to three anyway no person available the availability yet which is what I was most sad about but what I did be said when it comes yes and I find out how much one of its Enterprise its enterprise it's beyond the reach of most of us but it's it's fun to look at these drives of you look what they were able to do with that and it's 2.5 inch drive that what will we see 2.5 n trickle down to the main terabyte SSDs can be more readily available to us for that we need an and prices overall to come down indeed and who knows when that's actually gonna happen but they've been more reasonable compared to memory prices which is good I did price speculation on this and this is totally just just like like some some napkin you know math or whatever but the Samsung for a terabyte SSDs like the mainstream consumer ones right now on new nvme or and we're talking SATA 2.5 inch SSDs are 1400 to 1800 dollars for a 4 terabyte one and that's they have one on sale anyway so I averaged that to about $1600 right which is about four hundred four hundred dollars per terabyte average so times 30 terabytes would be twelve thousand dollars through this trip and that's on the really low end that's comparing it to the prices of mainstream consumer dress so it's gonna be way more enterprise drives typically cost double that yeah like inside Enterprise Drive was like twenty four hundred dollars for the four terabyte version so anyway this is really expensive stuff but it's cool to know they're able to do it and hopefully at some point in the future will have access to something like that so the technology and you don't have to work in a data set data and dater data in danger centered now your data centers to actually dagger is gonna date brick with that custom alright let's talk about Intel and they're discrete GPU yes for anyone who is concerned about graphics card prey and cryptocurrency mining and all that kind of stuff maybe the introduction of another player in the discrete GPU market might help that so Intel unveiling some of this information just recently which they did at the I Triple E international solid state circuits convention I'm sorry solid-state circuits conference the is SSC held by the I Triple E in San Francisco at San Francisco broke from all the second SF CA USA Earth okay anyway bTW that's that's where Intel Intel revealed a little bit more info about this and I'm not gonna go into a whole lot of detail again this this particle is linked in the videos we explaining all of this in the next what all this stuff means a vague idea you guys have time but it's a base of 14 nanometer lithography I can at least say that is it based on the bago graphics no it is not because you know is robbery mastermind behind our live Radeon technologies group does now work for Intel and and that's a good question because that's the the thought that you might have and initially looking at this article was like oh is this all the stuff that Raja has been working on and answer is probably not because the way that development of a product like this works you don't get to the point that they're at with this in months within the amount of time that Raja has worked with Intel they have probably been getting him up to speed with what they've been doing with this development exactly and then he's probably been coming in and back no no do you understand you have to do it this way but his things probably here zone and then there then their pride like dude Vegas just fucking lame so that's it okay very political here point B point B there is a little bit more information on what Intel's working on so that's pretty cool what they displayed and they actually did have a prototype that they demoed at the events was a two chip solution the first chip contains the key components of the GPU itself and a system agent keeps on one yeah yeah the two chips that were that were paired with each other to tie to both do separate tasks okay basically rather than something like an SOC the integrated everything altogether so yeah the GPU and a system agent on one chip second chip was an FPGA or field programmable gate array the interfaces with the system bus and that probably goes along with Intel's desire to make this flexible solution that they can sell to as many people as possible with the ability to flexibly integrate the GPU and and and in the way that they want to not to put too fine a point on the GPU component itself is based on intel's current gen9 architecture so it features three execution unit clusters but we should mention if you're looking at through this article and be like execution units like my GPU has this many extreme processors or whatever like that there's really no viable like comparison right now between this and like current generation discrete graphics cards from Intel I'm sorry from Nvidia or AMD it's really just sort of comparing this to what they've been working on with their IGP use up done that there is a double clock mechanism mechanism that they talk about that doubles the boost clock speeds beyond what the current gen 9 EU can handle with Intel I GPUs so that's cool to know that cool to know that they're working on stuff to vastly increase the turbo frequency beyond that there's not a whole lot to say we're probably probably looking at two to three years before Intel actually releases that discrete GPU that you can go out and buy yourself but it is in the works and I imagine as they move along with developed developments at certain times they'll let us know how they're doing and hopefully in the long run this can contribute to more variety more options when it comes to graphics cards in the marketplace and usually that's good for everyone yeah usually not high percent here but we go to the the next you know I want to predict the future I I have a strong feeling though that until eventually tap into gaming GPUs oh yeah I have a feeling that like that is really good for all of us that are just the crossover with cryptocurrency now is like the development of graphics cards up til now has had a variety of implementations like it's it for a while now it's not just been making make a 3d accelerated chip for gaming there have been other things you can do with it when it comes to general-purpose GPU compute stuff but they introduced an introduction of cryptocurrency as well plus I have to imagine the you know skyrocket skyrocketing prices of graphics cards has made it an even more tantalizing market for a company like Intel who has the means when it comes to developments to get into yeah okay let's move on last story here on hot and heavy hardware is from iki a sincere and heartfelt apology for their ex 399 thread repair water blocks okay are you aware of this no I missed it I did a video on the xc-99 tender for water blocking it was actually Minoans sided with several like catastrophic failures of various things that happened around here and I ended up actually making a video about how everything went wrong rather than an actual block like like review like it like an actual testing of the product or whatever that's more interesting but fortunately others did put the ek supremacy Evo thread repair edition CP water block through its paces and what they actually discovered was that was not really all that great of a performer no in some cases as much as 10 to 20 percent less performance than what you would get was something like just a standard UK water uh no like a standard like you know all the Allen ones for water cooling descending of a thread Ripper yeah it depended though and there were different reviews that we've got different results but basically ek has acknowledged that the performance of this unit was not up to par and certainly when compared with some other purpose-built thread Ripper blocks was really below the level of performance that would then that would be expected that's not to say it's done function not functional or anything like that and if you do happen to have one it's not not gonna work for you but won't be level of performance is nuts as was expected so I mean what they have done is they are relaunching a new version of the block that will be available very soon and here's here's the actual side by set so first off there's you rise in thread ripper and you know thread ripper has four Rison cores for rise and dies that are here here here and here right sort of spread out yeah so this was their original design which is actually basically just the sort of a copy over there there's ek supremacy Evo design which is used in intel blocks and that kind of thing and the way that works is you've got a unit that goes on top of this and sort of a narrow gap that shoots the water down right here at the center of this fin array and it pushes out across the fins on either side and it's pretty effective design but not necessarily as effective for thread Ripper right due to the position of the device and where the most effective cooling was happening with this so this is the new design that they've done so you can see for example you know they've actually changed the direction of the flow from being 90 degrees basically from this direction to this direction you can also see a gap in the center and I'm guessing what they're gonna have is that they're gonna have the jet plate or whatever shoot the water down across this way and that'll go out this way and then of course accumulates in the sides and goes out the out hole and that's how that works so yeah they've redesigned its they've made it better and they put out this this actual apology page which is on their news website which is linked in the video description where they said hey basically we're saying we acknowledge that the first product we launched is not that great engine the first product that they launched existing blocks are on a fair discount as they said I looked at the website fifty-three dollars if he wants the older crappy earth Evo thread Ripper water block if you're looking to build a water-cooled system but you're don't want the best performance so it's like what's your feeling I guess yeah but I mean I I'm sure they'll probably sell them at that price because you typically bought blocks like this cost upwards of $100 yeah 74 dollars for the all nickel version so a little bit more but still discounted they have a new set of blocks coming out pictures of that or kind of at the top here is there and that's sort of like anyone who bought the old shitty one gets a free upgrade or you know even further discounting because they you know what I mean yeah so there's um you might be you might be one of two people so the old crappy design they used for the the block itself and then they've also been developing mono blocks and a mono block covers the CPU and is usually larger um also also do a liquid cooling over the vrm to the power delivery which is very useful especially for the high end boards for like X 399 the next two ninety nine because if you overclock the v-rooms can can generate a lot of heat and keeping them cool can be effective for maintaining high overclocks so the only mono block that they launched with the old crappy design was the Asus one so the asus rog Zenith they launched a mono block for that had the old design if you purchased that you can apply for a free upgrade to the new version of that nice if you bought the just water block then you can get a twenty five euro or twenty five dollar coupon code and that is if you bought it before the 24th of November 2017 now I'm not sure why there's that date cut off of the 24th of November which is also pre Black Friday which is kind of interesting I'm not sure if they cut off sales at that point because they knew that it wasn't it wasn't working properly or what but it seems like their extension of helpfulness to people who bought just the block is not quite as as generous as what they're doing to people bought the monoblock right but maybe this ties in with how many of them actually sold or when they sold them or that kind of thing so you know anyway point is there's a new version and it's better and I guess they said they were sorry okay let's move on to tech news which is roughly the same as what we've just been talking about but it's different it's a bit more the same good stuff alright so here we go we've been talking a decent amount about the AMD APU that just recently launched in the past couple weeks the 2200 G and 2400 G and there's play questions from people who either already bought a motherboard but we're waiting to buy a CPU or who are buying a motherboard that's maybe been sitting on a shelf for a while or maybe isn't updated because motherboards that were sold say over the past year since Rison first launched have a BIOS that is compatible with all the first generation rise and chips your rise in threes rice and thousand rise in sevens and that's a decent number of processors but there are our new ap use that include Vega graphics which also uses the video outs on a lot of motherboards that haven't been used up till now now there have actually been some ap use that have launched on this platform that use not Zen architecture they are under the is at Bristol Ridge I'm blanking on this right now yes Bristol reach so I feel like I'm not explaining this well if you have a motherboard with a BIOS that's older and not compatible with these new rise in AP use then you're kind of in a situation where you have a motherboard you have an APU but you can't get them to work together because if you take the new APU and put it in the motherboard the motherboards like I don't recognize this is is old and Maya BIOS to Seoul now that motherboard might be perfectly compatible with that new APU right but until you can update its BIOS software thing then it won't recognize it and you can't update the BIOS in most situations unless you have a processor to install to get the motherboard functional to update it so that's kind of the catch-22 that some people is this very similar to the fact that like when I first popped my review sample APU into my be 350 motherboard I got a black screen and it didn't really like boot until I popped like my 1800 X and booted fine updated the BIOS and then once I swap that out for the APU it worked perfectly fine yes same sort of that has absolutely the the exact situation yeah now you were in a situation and we're like let me take my 1800 X over here exactly and install it real quick Tori in order to update the BIOS and get it get everything set up the windows people don't have the luxury of doing yeah most people don't happen to have any other and for CTU lying around so what this article is talking about is that AMD has has started a program that will basically loan you a temporary CPU and actually it is an APU which means it's a CPU with graphics in order to update your motherboard so you can use your new Rison 2200 G or 2400 G or maybe another CPU that they come out in the future beyond that right I'm imagining this will also apply to rising to stuff because we're going to have the same situation over in rising 2 processors come out because rising 2 processors will be compatible with existing X 370 and be 350 motherboards and also a a320 whatever that stupid one is but you'll need that BIOS update so Wow prior to now your options were what I would usually recommend to people is find a local PC repair shop because that's usually the best bet you can go in there bring your motherboard be like hey can you update my BIOS right and by the way if you're a PC repair shop owner or you run that I would highly recommend that you offer this as a free service to people yeah because it's a simple thing for you to do it takes 10 minutes maybe right and that will get people to come back to your store I would just say consider it or at most charge 5 or 10 bucks for it yeah I've heard Pete I've heard of PC repair shops charging you know 5 10 20 maybe 40 bucks for it nothing that's a bear but depending on the situation but yeah you bring it in there they pop the CPU and they update the BIOS in them and then you're good to go right other than that your option was to happen to have a motherboard that was fancy and newer and has a BIOS updating mechanism that you can do without a CPU and memory install which includes some ASUS motherboards and I know some gigabyte motherboards can do it I'm not sure beyond that if any of the other manufacturers have integrated that but that's more rare so it's harder to to say here's what you should do yeah anyway the CPU that they lend out is the Bristol Ridge APU the Asics 9,500 which is a dual-core 3.5 gigahertz processor they will send it to you once you've provided a qualifying apu serial number and other information I'm not sure what the other information is the street price of that apu that they will send you a 72 dollars in case you're wondering they will also send you RMA paperwork so you can return the cpu after you've updated your bios so what cpu is it sorry on the model it is the a 690 $572 ASA a 690 500 it's Bristol Ridge so 80 so it uses piledriver whatever that whatever the last name excavators then they had bulldozer piledriver excavator I forget which version but whatever the final revision is the last generation has been converted to a name for it yeah they made they made a name for compatible APU that this'll make those chips specifically just for this no that's it's been out for a while that's this has been out since since rise and lunched oh yeah there have been ap use that you can get on the import platform using the adjuster you would just never recommend them because they're using using seven six seven year old architecture and they're not that great so okay yeah thank you okay s+ bulldoze our pallet piledriver excavator and ass blaster that's why I kept it they'll send you army paperwork so you can return the station share them after you've updating your biases station they do not require a deposit or credit card at least according to the article for right now so it's a little bit on the honor system but if you guys happen to take it to take advantage of this from AMD please return the processor because you know I'd be a jerk yeah okay moving on don't abuse don't abused their kindness basically let's talk about AMD epic Romo rumors and this is a PC perspective article which is derived from a WCC F tech article so so it's evil part you just really usually WCC F Tech we'd be like hey you know we're not so sure about this PC perspective is usually pretty solid it's not their credit but the fact that Ryan I'm sorry actually this is a Scott as articles from Scott the fact that Scott decided this was viable enough to bring over from WCC f Tech though I think indicates that it's fairly reliable and also fairly interesting so Andy's epic is their code name for their enterprise level server processors basically the enterprise version of AMD thread Ripper and those are based on the same rise in cores as thread Ripper it's a different platform but a lot of the hardware a lot of the core technology is functionally the same so as we are expecting Rison to as we're expecting them to to come out we're also expecting you know probably a parallel improvements or updates or upgrades on the epic platform as well so Rome is the codename of the next generation platform and according to these rumors Rome will be based on the seven nanometer manufacturing process and what does that do Emel include 64 core processor designs so 64 cores and are having 28 threads on a single package processor which is which is pretty huge pretty amazing right now epic goes up to 32 cores and 64 threads and thread Ripper of course the high end desktop but still made for consumers sixteen core thirty-two thread processors which are super awesome in and of themselves and we've kind of wondered like will they bring the 32 course read option or something like that to the thread Ripper platform and based on this my guess at this point would be probably not going beyond 16 cores with the current generation but if they launch an updated series of CPUs for thread or pair like a thread refer to or something like that that's still compatible with the existing tr4 socket and everything then you might see a 32 core high-end desktop mainstream CPU from them that's it that's a that's a viable possibility but anyway the huge thing here is that they're shrinking from 40 nanometers down to 7 nanometers so that's that's half that's cutting the the size of the manufacturing process in half from 14 down to seven again please bear in mind this is not the same as rising 2 which is based on Zen Plus which is 12 nanometer but there are two different dyes for this Rome a product line one is a 12 core per die part so you have 4 by 4 with 48 cores per package let me says yeah ok cool so yeah each each of the fourth like you remember thread repair with 4 dies yeah 1 2 3 4 each of those dies there's 12 on each we'd have 12 cores and all four of the dice would make 48 course total right and then there'd be a 16 core which would be 64 64 cores per package with 16 cores per day now my my sort of trickle-down deduction from this here is like alright right now thread Ripper is based on 4 or if your 8 core Rison dies so if this is true then Rome is being based on 16 core dies so that would make me assume that not rising to because we're again rising to is n plus which is top 14 12 nanometer but whatever this accessorize into it the next-gen after that yeah would potentially have a single 16 corridor by the sands which which is like taking your 8 core little die that so many of the rise in derivatives the current gen rise and derivatives are based on and doubling the amount of cores on it well well while having the the manufacturing process sighs so that's that's yeah that's pretty cool the cool thing about there and as Scott also points out in the article having those two SKUs a 16 core and a 12 core would would greatly enhance their yields per wafer because you have a wafer with a bunch of dies and they cut them all out of it and they test them all and some are work better than others that means the one that worked ones work the best would be the 16 core ones those those would go in the 64 core processors or the 16 core rise in three 3,800 plus or whatever you hundred X or whatever you want to call it but then you'd also have the ability to harvest harvest dies that didn't perform as well or they had some quarters that weren't fully functional to get 12 core dies out of that matter that that's better for your yields that means you have more viable dice on each wafer that come out of it and that's always good for making money as a CPU manufacturer okay Rome is due in 2019 so we're looking at next year nice cool all right finally last story here isn't about Nvidia touring and we talked a little bit last week in the rumor and speculation and really sketchy kind of way about what might have been Nvidia amp here which we're talking about is maybe the in-between follow-up for the next generation of GPUs that Nvidia might be coming out with this article would seem to indicate that maybe some of those rumors were based on touring rather than ampere we can't say at this point one percent that ampere isn't actually a thing but because Reuters actually has reported on this it does seem like Turing is a thing and it definitely seems like this is possibly what the rumors from last week we're talking about as opposed to the rumored and pure series of made for gaming GPUs these ways we might skip and purer and purer might not be a thing at all and peer might just be a made up a made up rumor that turns out to be nonsense I see or these could be both going on at the same time we're not sure now I watched again a cameras next video earlier today about this and gamers Nexus apparently got tipped off to this a while ago I have been dropping touring peeps hints and some of their videos and stuff like this which is very fancy still does not completely rule out the possibility of an ampere gaming based GPU but Turing does appear to be focused more on cryptocurrency mining which hate might be just just as good a news as a new game series of gaming GPUs to gamers as it is because if there's gonna be anything that seriously provides competition to gaming graphics cards being used for mining it's gonna be purpose-built GPUs that are made for mining that are better at it and more efficient and that's the only thing that'll that'll work for them like the talk that's been done of like oh we're gonna make mining graphics cards that are made for mining and we're gonna take the video outs off of them and that kind of thing like that's a means of the graphics card manufacturer minimizing the amount of money that they invest into the and into producing the graphics card but that's less appealing to miners because miners look are looking at the whole lifecycle of the cart they're looking at buying it now mining with it for X amount of time to get this many as many hashes as they can right and then selling it when they're done with it sure and they're probably to sell to a gamer and if they have a mining specific card that has no video outs that reduces the viability of reselling it obviously this is a universal or anything like that but point being touring is named after the British scientist Alan Turing you may be familiar he's credited the team of mathematicians the Nazi enigma cryptography also the Turing test which is often used to determine whether you're a robot or a human sorry my dogs are freaking out I wish anymore you sound like robots hello mrs. York Turing task brief brief interruption by dogs bork bork bork bork all right so um couple quotes from the article here NVIDIA Turing could be manufactured a low enough cost against geforce branded products and in high enough scales to help bring down their prices and save the PC gaming ecosystem it could have an ASIC like disruptive impact on the graphics card market and that's referring to the original the the original popularity of mining Bitcoin on GPUs which was thwarted by the introduction of a six which were much more efficient at mining Bitcoin which killed the viability of mining it with GPUs 20 came back months altcoins and aetherium and other coins that could be mined with GB was again started to get more popular right combined with also the increased acceptance and profitability of crypto mining okay there's no word on which GPU architecture Turing would be based on whether it's Pascal current generation or Volta next generation Nvidia is expected to launch its entire family of next generation GeForce GTX 2000 series Volta graphics cards in 2018 okay that's that's a very broad statement but hey techpowerup they probably know what it I feel like they were do I mean it's been like two years since the gtx titan launched yeah it's been way too long so they're gonna come out with something they have something in the works we'll keep talking about the possibilities until we can say yes this is exactly what they will do and it's it's gotta be hard though to be in video right now right or any GPU manufacturer no it doesn't it's really easy no okay where the art products is selling off the shelves for way more than they're intended to be sold okay i mean i need to market it towards a gaming audience which they've traditionally done in the years past I mean GeForce has always been sort of a gaming forward brand or a family of product and for them to be like you know alright and like Jensen come up on stage and his leather jacket we got the to the 2020 or the the 2080 here retailing for the low low price of $1,300 like like zero collapsing body it's like the one guy definitely how do you market it a mean eccentric GPU right now they certainly had are they gonna do they should have a vested interest in maintaining their audience of gamers because that's what they've built their business up on yeah yeah and you know I I I would expect and I don't mean this and to be insulting in any way it's anyone who mines cryptocurrency the people who Mayan cryptocurrency are going to go where they can get the most efficient mining and the best bang for their buck and if it turns out that the hardware market veers in a direction where suddenly cryptocurrency miners are going to be investing in these products that are made for mining versus these products that are made for gaming that's when we will see gaming graphics cards become more reasonable in price I hope so and I think that would be the ideal situation because then cryptocurrency miners who want to mind cryptocurrency and make money and more power to them for everyone wins making money can rely products and do what they want and not affect the price of gaming graphics cards for people who just want to buy and play some games right so hopefully that's what we came out with speaking of gaming graphics cards though my final segments up to is a little it's kind of a cop-out but I I just wanted to go shopping with you guys what do you think let's do it let's go shop we talked about the prices of stuff so what does stuff cost particularly use or Jeff we've jumped over here to new egg so let's type in gtx 1070 let's go I want to see what it says right now oh I forget how no egg works where is where's video cards got a desk two peripherals yeah no good components you have to go to the car I was an assistance we used to work here we used to work here now we don't even know how to use the website that's top graphics cards we're drilling down our let's cut power our search is good gotta use the power search of course who wants to have some that's what I always do I used to make our search you can be like look at all of these different video cards that I can choose from oh my god I don't know heroes like I was touching my leg oh you just he wanted butt scratches touch oh we're looking at 1080 sure than you yeah see what tiny bees cost on new egg right now 800 now if you ever go shopping on new egg there's these radio buttons at the top there's new egg and there's all sellers the all sellers radio button that's basically like Hitler you want to avoid that Oh like screw that go with new iPad marketplace so as you guys are all assholes that's actually oh those are all out of stock okay so we've selected new egg here so we're only getting legit new egg offerings and we've sorted by Luis lowest price and they're all out of stock I am so sad so new egg nights so maybe maybe maybe you should keep the radial option open for all sellers why are they cannot keep anything in stock and you click on all sellers if there aren't even any SKUs here like you like you should be seeing every brand Asus GT Strix GTX 10 anyway but at a stock here but why candy and why EVGA there's nothing all right they're just completely drained dry removing so that means all of these are from different sellers than Newegg right yeah yeah not New Age and these are all eight $900 so if you view details we have an $800 skirt all right 800 bucks right now you can get a 10 84 Wow looks like it's in stock and Add to Cart from platinum micro comm sounds like it sound like they sell robot hookers that's what it sounds like to me anyway that's the low low price for the $800 1080 good how about a tea I got for it at ti right now 11 handle 11 Hyundai is no egg doesn't have any can I get any legit sales from nuoc so this is the crazy thing new egg has overpriced the 1080 TI to 828 20 which isn't that much of a markup honestly there should be 700 to 800 I mean usually the really highest end ones all the other ones yes so these aren't crazy marked up right now they're definitely more expensive than they should be but go back to all sellers and then suddenly you have thousands eleven hundred bucks so can actually I can actually buy this so Tech one from any world for $1100 no nope nope nope I wouldn't do it let's see what I you see the art picker has to say let's check that out you can go over here to individual parts on PC part picker let's check memory prices first of all if I want to go and get me some ddr4 3000 some solid decently fast not entry level but decently fast perfectly adequate for a Rison build or or an intel build I'd say $200 you're gonna want a 16 gig kit I feel like that's your you know eight gigs this more entry level at this point right and then that's about it right that's that's all you really need all right 170 dollars for that right now that's for a team dark kit which doesn't look terrible yeah it's just this picture is table all right hundred and seventy dollars still still crazy expensive still double what it was a year ago but anyway let's let's go back to graphics cards take a look take a look see here and I want to check out the let's look at let's look at an rx 580 I mean have you even bothered to look in a 580 in so long because I just assume it's all terrible and it is $400 for these were $2 $50 is what you should be spending they were 250 350 to 300 and that's some super Bay's which is out of stock but may as Newegg actually has this for $400 no it's nothing what oh I can't why are you putting us through this right now Paul this is like I want to experience whatever what else is experiencing gonna try and shop for graphics capability now it's in Clockwork Orange like you're just forced to be like nightmare is a living breathing I even bother going to Eva's odd I was gonna go to Amazon take checked recently it's all the same shit I feel like Amazon is is even more of like it it's because they have even they haven't raised your sellers market at least some new ID does definitely so that's no better that's horrible like my stomach's in knots that's like oh we're gonna explore it here maybe we'll find a reasonable deal and we'll be right with all of our live viewers no there's no hope all right we're taking we're taking one more look at that gtx 1066 gig no no cert by lois pryce all right so the EVGA and 60s see presentation 670 blue like honestly the same price as a 1070 should be alright alright alright 20 bucks less than what the MSR okay if a 1070 should be even then and that's such there's and there's such a huge gap from the dance performance 170 oh like that's a yeah Wow okay okay I feel bad now dude poor travel-time wuj did you have to pour the salt in the wound PO we already knew was bad and now we won't get sleep at night cuz sometimes like your reality check you like man everything's so horrible right now maybe it's not haven't actually looked at stuff for me only you look oh fuck that could forget everything prices dropped a bit and there's been kind of dabble again okay I'm sorry everyone I I really wish we were in a better situation when it comes to these prices and I hope but how it gets fixed soon because it's not selling because yeah okay there's not much else to say I don't this to have anything more to add to that alright let's let's let's run down some donation comments cuz thank you guys for donating those of you who have and have been able to starting off with Camden and row with the five dollar donation it says pick bit wits knows there's an interesting solution pick a suggestion ticket as your favorite nose of the evening so you can just point and be like I pick you hey I see heroes nose yeah I see your nose yep I'm gonna choose between them heroes whimpering and about to leave so I'll go with your nose thank you hey I picked ball picked my nose nose you pick my nose wow what a horrible cuppa all right mv7 you're okay mister mister lenticular Paul 50 USD might not be 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your crazy high donation Turner bucks says it's epic that's amazing it's awesome you're the best next up is Benedict T with the $5 donation hey Paul Cal I am looking to buy a second 250 gig SSD WD has an inexpensive one have you guys worked with a WD SSD before if so thoughts I've seen the reviews on their nvme ones the WD black PCIe versions and then in pretty positive yeah they're pretty good and they're good like for a 206 gig and get it for like 99 bucks well I know WD had a like sort of a first attempt at SSDs that came out I feel like and I want to say in 2013 or something like that and those were not horrible but they were really overpriced at the time I remember right for what you got so yeah maybe you double-check make sure that whatever you're getting a good deal on right now isn't one of those the the stuff they've done more more recently in the past a couple of to three years has been perfectly adequate just make sure you're not getting one of those older outdated models sometimes those can go on sale and for people who still have stock left over that kind of thing yeah but yeah WD is a good company overall and they have a really good army system which I always appreciate I don't feel like you have to mention they're cool trainer Gavin with $5 donation I'm gonna rise into a 1300 X with a gigabyte a be 350 gaming three board and two by eight gigs Ripjaws 2666 ram button bios that says 2133 program and crashes when every started 2666 cool trainer Gavin you're probably experiencing the classic Rison ddr4 memory can ability issues yeah depending on the memory kit that you have you might have you might have single rank you might have dual rank Rison has a riser that's a more difficult time with the dual rank memory so I would definitely double check your motherboards your ass rack motherboards vendor list all the dogs sorry but duck here here I'll stop barking okay everything's fine everything's right there just double-check the vendor lists and they just make sure if your Amazon they're not if it's not on there you might just have a rom kit that is functional 2066 probably if you plugged it into an Intel system you'd be just fine but you might have a harder time with Rison so it might be something where you want to consider selling the kit you have and buying a new kit or something like that you can also tray like inputting the timings manually that's some of the PAS seems like the BIOS as well as the voltage and you know just making sure that X and peas you know selected or not XMP but making sure that the rated frequency profile within the BIOS is selected for the speed that your kit is rated at that inputting the voltage and the timings manually it has generally helped me and make sure that your BIOS is updated like manufactures or specifically are updating their BIOS all the time primarily to improve memory compatibility so I would definitely look at all those different you could also potentially loosen your timings so if your memory is 2060 2666 with timings of like 16 16 whatever you could potentially lose some 720 6666 but then loosen the timings up to 18 18 whatever sure just try doing that and for a functional setup okay J Bell Bell right yeah oh this is a similar question also five dollar donation as rock a be 350 M pro four to four gig sticks of course their vengeance lpx at 3,000 rising 2200 G 256 gig at WD black m2 nvme EVGA bqa plus bronze 500 watt thoughts that's nice matter your yeah I mean your and you're priming for if you want to upgrade later down the line and pop indiscreet in there you'd be solid like you have decent RAM you have a good power supply to house a discreet card and a very good foundation with that you know be 350 mm and many more in particular if memory if you're running that memory solidly at 29 33 which is what the divider you should be able to hit with 3000 speedram you're good to go the thing you'll probably want to upgrade the sooner rather well depending on prices of course because memory prices suck but you'll probably hit a wall with your 8 gigs of memory earlier than maybe otherwise then maybe your limitations with a graphics card so at some point you might want to want to jump from 8 gigs up to a 16 gig kit and at that point I would say sell your to four gigs sticks and by 288 big sticks and it's an upgrade that way right but nice nice setup there Jake and Josh we're with the five Canadian dollar donation hey guys what would be a good CPU for a HTPC or nest via virtualization but they want to have a 1070 or 1080 and a limit of a 650 watt SFX power supply you don't need much yeah you don't need too much for an HTTP C&S I would say go with a quad core because quad cores are just a lot more accessible right now and especially if you're considering virtualization having more cores it's often very helpful for that so yeah I would consider some of the rise and quad core options that are out there there's some rising threes and I remove one of the low and rising fives be a possibility for you if you have a 1070 or 1080 in there it seems like maybe gaming on your HP PC as a possibility in the living room if that's the case I would definitely suggest a rise in 5 CPU I would stray away from the rising then you go with like a risin 5 1600 or something like that VA 3 MHP with the $10 Canadian have you ever tried any Canadian beers if not I recommend Molson Canadian lager Molson moldable so nice is I'm sure I've trade Molson this Moosehead Molson Canadian is it took Canadians yeah oh my Canadian someone said I used to drink a lot of moose head back in the dead moose who said the right eyed neck right next to me oh I sold a loose head for very cheap I feel like Molson Molson to Canada wouldn't Wilson to Canada be like what Budweiser is to the United States is yes extended like is the biggest it's a big mainstream American serum which often is like I'll say this about Budweiser a lot like Budweiser should get credit freebie being able to 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had the same my thought process there it's that whenever you're in marketing person for a company like Nvidia the bigger number is always what you want to go with so if you pardon me if you're counting up like looking at videos GTX series for the past ten years you know they had a 400 series 500 series a 600 series the 700 series they didn't really do much with the 800 series but the 900 series and then they had the 10 hundred series so yeah 1100 series would probably make more sense 1180 1170 1160 1180 TI that's not possible but I don't know something tells me that mm sounds like a lot more than 1100 so maybe they'll go with 2,000 but honestly yeah you're right it's all speculation at this point Nvidia could completely scrap it they're naming scheme and start over with like a 100 series or something like that which honestly I'd be totally fine with because I don't know naming conventions for graphics cards and product lines tend to keep repetitive over time so change is sometimes good 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