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every time all of our lower thirds aren't like I need to I need to find my news it's okay didn't I didn't even think about it it wasn't like I'll just make Paul do all this shit on the spot and make him suffer and laugh well he well he struggles and unliving this a live broadcast at first half of the show so we get to know I get to go through all that on my hat that's right okay so it's back for tech news today we're starting off with a bit of a bit of the old skull but from an end tech it's got a but is it why isn't ctrl+ working on this doesn't today we'll be recapping in an antique article in three short hours this one from Ian Curtis and specifically it's not like you information derived from power stamp Alliance I'm not familiar with power stamp Alliance but now I know what they are thanks to this article power stamp Alliance has been formed to define a standard product footprints and functions that provide a multiple sourced standard modular board mounted solution for power conversion from full 48 volt in to low-voltage high-current applications primarily targeting devices being used in large data centers so it's it's alliance of large companies in order to create a standard so that they can create they can all create hardware that can be universal used in platforms in the platform that they were have specifically released some information on is intel's not next-gen xeon platform but the gen after that right now Xeon the highest-end Xeon stuff you can buy from Intel is based on skylake but cascade Lake is what's supposed to be next and the these the the code names are typically applied to the architecture and the architecture is often used not just on like the architecture will be used across multiple platforms so right now there's Zeon's based on skylake architecture you can also buy mainstream CPUs as well as enthusiast great CPUs based on skylake architecture cascade lake is the next codename for architecture that products will be based on in 2018 after that is ice Lake and that's listed at least in the documentation referenced here is coming out in 2018 slash 2019 so possibly later this year or early next year but there's also some some more information in this and this is all from a non tech so it's all pretty we can be pretty confident this is all this is all pretty accurate information here one of the biggest things here I think is the new socket its LGA 4189 yeah that's 4189 pins am typically LJ's references is is referenced by the number of actually actual pin contact points in each socket that's 542 more pins than the current xeon socket which is LGA 36:47 and that currently supports skylake Zeon's as well as the up came upcoming cascade Lake Xeon family in this document though because they're talking about early signs for motherboards that will support this platform for example they actually say that's the the isolate stuff will have the new socket LGA 4189 and also that there will be some amount of backwards compatibility between them the the power pin so different different pin outs on a socket some will have it be for data connectivity some will be for power delivery the power design is supposed to be the same so there will be a an adapter that you can get in order to have some sort of backwards compatibility a CPU adapter yeah this is still far first this is still pretty early information so like my guess here would be something like the current socket design is large enough to have the extra pins edit in there and that maybe there's a different adapter for that will allow it to slot in there I don't think this is something like like a physical adapter like the old slot mount CPUs or something like that I doubt it's going that direction but it does seem like there's some sort of backwards compatibility that they're talking about there at least when it comes to the power delivery and that's of course what this article is derived from the the power stamp Alliance because they do a lot of 48 volts power components so there you go these are sure the power is crazy the other information that was also revealed from the documents is power ranges for cascade Lake at least when it comes to the TDP for the CPUs cascade Lake will have 165 to 205 Watts range 40 DPS which is pretty similar to skylake which had 140 to 200 5 watt range ice Lake will up that tour in 30 watts for the TDP so you know you know you'll need some clan accordingly you'll need some cooling there and then when it comes to code names that they're referencing in the document there's one codename VR 13 which is for skylake in cascade Lake parts and then there's VR 13 8c for ice Lake and the HD and this case stands for high current so the typical VR 13 HD implementation for an isolate C on is going to be a 2 CPU configuration with 16 ddr4 memory slots for each CPU wants to move like a thread Ripper yeah 16 per CPU so that means that like I don't know what kind of motherboard like I don't know if this is gonna fit within current motherboard standards like meses IC eb 16 per cpu and we're talking about a a two CPU configuration possibly and on separate motherboards I'm not and I'm not really sure this is all stuff that's probably out of the range of most people cuz cuz it's server grade stuff and really high-end server grade stuff at that when they say that VR 13h the implementation is two CPUs do they mean two dies on one actual scene up to separates twosome easy because unlike a motherboard so here is server board yeah so again because the documents they're referencing are largely large we're talking about power delivery to the CPUs because that is what the power stamp Alliance is designing and establishing standards for even so they have for example the 48 volt bus going across here two CPUs and then all the ddr4 memory slots for both it's eight channel ddr4 so that's pretty quick crazy doubling doubling the quad channel so I imagine there's an insane amount of bandwidth available there but again just that number of like if yes it's so I have a feeling this is going to be split on on a couple boards in a system but who knows for sure again this is this is that enterprise-grade stuff that we don't dabble in that much but the reason I bring it up here in general is because a lot of times there's trickle down especially on the Intel side Xeon the enthusiast grade parts like X 99 next to 99 they've all been derived from Xeon stuff the enthusiasts platform tends to more aligned with with Zeon launches and it does with them with mainstream launches yeah so for that reason I'm just speculating like Intel was was was kind of blindsided by the thread Ripper launch from AMD last year and suddenly having competition in the high-end desktop space right now Intel has X 299 and and the the skylake parts that are that fit in there but what are they gonna like are they gonna have some kind of answer for for AMD and thread rupert beyond the current platform that they have or like what are they planning that's next and this is just complete speculation for me but given the response from thread Ripper I feel like it would be kind of cool if Intel was like hey let's take some derivative of this platform whether it's lg8 3647 or than the LGA 4189 stuff they're talking about and create some sort of enthusiast Klatt platform enthusiast class platform based on that right that'd be fun yeah it'd be kind of cool last stat here was that the maximum memory capacity of the base xeon processors on the isolate platform is up from 768 gigabytes to one terabyte one terabyte of system memory which is it's usually the minimum that I I tried to roll with anyway guys again the article from an antic is leaked in the description and there's a lot more detail there so feel free to read it we're info next up from PC world and Brad sharkus is Nvidia finally saying goodbye not just to Fermi graphics cards and that I'm saying say goodbye that's very dramatic they're ending support for Fermi graphics cards as well as 32-bit operating systems support this is announced on Friday April 6th and probably not many people like will be desktop users using 32-bit operating system 64-bit has Murat been around for a while and excuse me I mean I haven't used 32-bit operating systems since 2005 2006 2007 I don't know right in that range somewhere yeah that's like when I graduated high school good lord yeah most most often you hear about people who are required to use a 32-bit operating system in order to support some old legacy software or something like that but it has something to to keep in mind I suppose if in particular if you're using a 32-bit OS or if you have an older graphics card specifically a Fermi based graphics card the affected systems that have either a 32-bit OS or a Fermi based graphics card won't just stop working all of a sudden they're still going to function they're just not going to get new performance enhancements features or bug fixes there is some continued support for critical security updates until January 2019 so you had another 8 months or so for that also of note is that the GeForce experience software which is optional but a lot of people do use it will also be dropping 32-bit operating system supports the software that currently exists will still work with 32-bit OS game setting functions and that kind of thing again it's just not going to get updated beyond that so typically when that happens people will still use it for a little bit but at some point there might be a security vulnerability or something like that so it's it's it's moving end-of-life so what which update your operating system yeah but and if you have if you still have a 500 series you know Fermi graphics card or something like that it's probably time to upgrade anyway I would think possibly I mean even like hopefully hopefully graphics cards prices will continue to drop if if not if not just for the sake of like not burning down your house with the GTX 580 just just just get that just retire it already and get something that doesn't pose a threat to you and your family good advice Kyle and they're all weak so yeah as Kyle mentioned Fermi based graphics cards in case you're not sure what exactly that entails oh oh I used the one on my am like he's thanks very best graphics cards from Nvidia or GTX 400 series of GTX 500 series graphics Kurt's they were kind of notorious especially in the 400 series for being very power hungry and running pretty hot GTX 480 in particular had a notorious reputation for that good good excuse to water cool of course the 500 series helps had a lot of benefits our upgrades from the 400 series with power consumption and you know still not non-functional cards or anything by any stretch just again not going to get future updates so you know the triple a title that launches four months from now won't have a game you know a launch day ready tribe it will have a lunch ready the launch day driver for 600 series and above but not for your older 500 series graphics card in case you're what I want to compare this to what AMD has done the the counterparts at the time for the 400 and 500 series firming graphics cards from Nvidia was AMD's Radeon HD 5000 at 6000 series graphics cards and those have been legacy status since 2015 so Nvidia for their part supported those cards for one to three years beyond what Nvidia I'm sorry what AMD supported their GPUs for the time okay moving on moving on the new horizon processors rise in two as they are called they're coming out soon we have confirmation from AMD that they are launching on April 19th but some global retailers have just been shipping them out apparently supposedly rumor has it according to these pictures and everything and far be it for me to call anyone a liar so our guys can view these other retailers shipping them out like in like are they are they breaking any rules with or tricks with AMD maybe I don't know possibly hmm like its its regional right like oh my my experience is with is working with new egg and no egg was a pretty sizable company when it comes to being an end-user sales retail sales outlet so you know there's back and forth with companies you know obviously AM DS probably not happy if this if this actually is the case that these CPUs were shipped to these people early you know AMD has embargoes we can assume going on with various outlets and that kind of thing and they probably wouldn't want this this happening because that would detract from that but at the same time you're trying to do a product launch globally with many different countries and many different outlets and that kind of thing and it's not the first time we've seen something like this happened before so for better or for worse it does seem again according to these rumor articles that some of these CPUs have gone out so there are people who have been testing them and this articles from hot or hardware which is also derived a bit from I believe a bit from a WCC F Tech article from a risin 720 700 X benchmark leak and the 2700 X is supposed to be the highest end CPU that's coming out with this upcoming launch the basis of the article is information posted by El Chapo's s infirm and formatic oh I don't I'm sorry if I'm pronouncing if I'm not pronouncing that correctly sounds like a reliable source yes they were able to obtain a rise in 720 700 X according to the article which is the 8 core 16 thread processor essentially the successor to the 1800 X as as far as what we have right now base stats are a 3.7 gigahertz base clock and a 4.3 5 gigahertz boost clock they ran it through a series of benchmarks they were testing it with an asrock mother motherboard the x3 seventy killer SLI and several motherboard manufacturers have already posted BIOS updates for their boards for compatibility with the resin to stuff which allows you to actually slot these CPS in and use them again assuming this article is accurate so yeah some tests they don't have the 1800 X in here but they have a 1700 X in these comparison numbers for some W Prime stuff does still seem to be falling behind some of the in cell comparison numbers here for like the 8700 K it did seem to do better on the second test W Prime but it should be noted that anything that they're using right now when it comes to the software side driver support that kind of thing is probably pre-launch yeah and that can often cause some changes in performance after launch so there's 3dmark fire strikes score with 2700 X and 32 hundred megahertz memory coming in just behind the 8700 K and there's a few other outlets referenced an article for overclocking the original article by L chap who's us in Fairmount ago and we're only able to overclock to 4.2 gigahertz across all cores on there 2700 X at one point 4 volts but there's another website called Hardware numbers and they actually have a video linked in the article as well they also apparently got a rise in 720 700 X and they got 4.3 gigahertz across all cores and they were also at one point 4 volts and they were using an asus rog crosshair 6 hero also an independence person in chile contacted WCC eff tech with some overclocking numbers that they had for an r5 2600 which is a 6 core 12 thread processor which is probably going to be the relevant successor to the 1600 and 1600 X that has a 3.4 gigahertz base 10 3.9 gigahertz boost and they overclocked it to 4.0 5 gigahertz across all cores within asrock Tachi so again all these numbers are early none of this stuff is launched they're probably they're all these tests have been done with current generation hardware according to the article so it's preliminary stuff maybe something to get excited about if you're looking at some of those higher frequencies because you know getting beyond 4 gigahertz was pretty difficult with the right with the first gen rise and stuff but yeah we should all know more in about 9 days because again April 19th as when this launch is supposed to happen I'd be curious to see if there's much of a performance difference between X 370 and X 470 when you're talking about overclocking anyway because I mean I know X 470 the the one feature that it does have over X 370 is exif r2 but if you're overclocking and you're supplying an all core frequency then that kind of goes up the window so then I'm wondering you know on top apart from that if if you would still have a better overclocking advantage on on the newer chipset I don't know I think I'm most curious about that because that's the whole thing right it's like this is exciting because a lot of people jumped on to rise in first gen because it was a great platform and then we all have the promise of backwards compatibility where we can you know you can buy a new second generation chip and slot it into an X 370 board but at what cost we shall see I'm very curious I think most people will be overclocking they're they're rising to chips so just gonna assume you're joking about everything ha ha that's funny yeah obviously we don't know any of the details about any of this stuff oh I'm not under move again oh sure Facebook has told us recently the data on most of its 2 billion users is vulnerable 2 billion users that's global worldwide ok Facebook of course has been under a fair amount of heat recently for for various things according to this article they removed a feature recently that lets a user enter a phone number or an email address into Facebook's search tool in order to find other people specifically because it was being used by malicious actors to scrape public profile information as many as 87 million people in the most of them in the US have had info information improperly shared with research firm Cambridge analytic and then there's also talk of another research firm called Palantir Mark Zuckerberg was interviewed today more like interrogated did you watch any of that I want caught some of that I didn't really watch it so it was interesting it was really interesting I felt bad for the guy yeah just like he was like in front of like 30 people like 30 rich white old dudes just up there just a lot of them hardcore conservatives and stuffing questions and just like just just getting hammered with question after question like some hard-hitting sophisticated questions and he I thought he handled himself pretty well to be honest and he was on under a lot of pressure obviously but he was very you know smart and concise with his answers it didn't seem like he was bullshitting all that much and you could tell that every dude up there was just trying to like be the one that gave him the be the one to stump him you know with like some like really controversial question but he kind of plowed right through it so except for the ones that receives substantial campaign donations justice was not as per second Berg you know he's only capable of acting within the parameters of his of his software programming it was interesting when win-win questions regarding some of these firms that have potentially been misusing Facebook information came up such as Cambridge analytic implants here was when questions stopped being answered as thoroughly according to what I read but of course this all happens just briefly earlier today the article is actually from last week so there's more there's more stuff just from today and yesterday now all this all this said there's there's there's two sides to the coin here one of them is like people who are upset with Facebook and cancelling you know deleting their Facebook accounts and logging out and stuff like that because they feel like their privacy has been infringed upon or that kind of thing and then there's and then there's another response which is people who I've heard saying like you know a lot of this in from a lot of the stuff about what information you share was in was it's there granted it's in the fine print and maybe that's something that's misleading to people as far as knowing what you're signing up for and this is also something that's largely new you know in the past five to ten years this is this is all fairly recent so the ability for they just for this to exist this global social network that people can go and post on and say whatever they want and that kind of thing is all right now yeah I feel like it's technology that that we are sorta it's sort of in the infancy so of course there's going to be people who figure out ways to use it maliciously right it's like a living breathing black black mayor episode yeah yeah we're cutting edge technology is now being abused in yeah so obviously there's there's there's a lot this is this is the ongoing thing so we're gonna briefly touch on it here obviously there's an entire political side to this that we're not going to delve into very much just because we typically try to avoid that's that type of thing on the show but upshot for me right now is that if this increases your awareness of what you share online and good then good everyone should be more understanding that your connection to the Internet and what you decide to post there and what you talk about is going to be used for marketing purposes and whether that's a fairly innocuous marketing purpose of like hey here's a product you might want to buy or whether it's a marketing purpose of like here's some shadow government or foreign country that's trying to influence your decisions in some way that you wouldn't naturally go for like you know there's there's there's very much yeah I think there's a lot more to go into there that obviously we're not gonna get into right now but yeah I think it would be aware that what you're sharing is important do you know like yeah it's kinda like people don't realize like going on to a website and like creating a login and stuff and being a user and being active in their account it's kind of like going into like a store that you know you're on someone that you're on someone else's property you're in someone else's territory and they've got security cameras they can film you walking into their store they have full control over that but the Internet's scary because it's there's this level of the Tatra where it's like well I'm still at home I don't understand that I'm like actually in somebody else's jurisdiction and you don't know like if that website it has security cameras just on you walking in and walking out or or how deep that goes like if you were using this brick-and-mortar analogy like what if they had cameras in the bathroom or in the changing rooms you know like how much data are they actually collecting from you and people don't really have a grasp of that because it's so intangible to some degree there's a that is very real there's a very significant conversation going on right now about facial recognition mmm with Facebook and and it's there there's the online like Facebook facial recognition of like I uploaded a picture like oh it recognizes that it's me and this other person who's on my friends list so it can say like oh here's the people in that picture tag you know and then there's the official recognition of like facial recognized in Tina and other areas where it's like wherever you walk there's cameras that recognize your face and track wherever you going all the time because technology enables it now and obviously there's some degree of security to be gained from that but there's also a lot of privacy to be personal privacy to be given up and it's a we know we don't really know what's gonna happen in the future so we'll try to keep an eye on it I guess I'm getting scared so let's move on and talk about something that's a little bit more friendly the Windows 10 spring creators update oh that's right that sounds a lot more lighthearted ringing in Windows 10 Windows 10 is it's only kind of watching you right so the Windows 10 spring creators update this article over on PC world by Mark hashman was written up just sort of a collection of of things that it has done and maybe you're aware of this maybe you're not so I wanted to quickly run down it and make you aware of it for instance you now have one click data deletion including the diagnostic data that Microsoft has collected on your device you can actually just go and manually delete that now app by app GPU management's and so give you gives you a little bit more control over your GPU as far as being connected to the software and for example if you're in a laptop or something like that and maybe you have a couple GPUs a little prior one and discrete one to choose from you can it can help help yourself out with some power management a better game bar and this is something that I have no idea if anyone who watches this shows interested in do you use the game bar I ignore all the mic all the Windows 10 game stuff but didn't even know it existed to be honest I'm sure some people do it the game bar sort of encourages you to stream PC games via Windows mixer they revamp the game bar to add a clock some toggles to turn my camera off that kind of thing I've never bothered to use this I don't know if anyone does maybe it maybe it's functional I don't know no one's gonna use that change the fonts in the Microsoft Store been waiting for that one this one's actually kind of useful on demand bluetooth pairing via a pop-up versus an awkward jiff image there or whatever but um rather than having to go into settings devices Bluetooth and click the plus icon sip to pair stuff there's a little pop-up that triggers a pairing request so that's useful with Windows 10 s you can now switch to password list mode I haven't bothered to test that myself so audio I can't this is actually probably meant of all these things is probably my favorite so you have at volume and device preferences you have a bit of an expanded UI here with volume per app which is useful and also input and output options here for audio devices for anyone who does streaming or runs multiple pieces of software at the same time that you might want one to play soft play audio and that kind of thing hopefully this will help you out as long as Windows updates doesn't reset all of these yeah parameters remember that I can update after updates then we gave you more things to reconfigure after every update you're welcome but there you go some better audio options autocorrect and auto suggest for hardware keyboard okay or what Auto keyboard the hardware keyboard so just like a regular they just mean a regular keyboard like autocorrect when you're typing stuff like in Word yeah weird the hard work autosuggest functions for the hardware keyboard that it does for the software keyboard that pops up from tablets huh so neither really unfortunately really delivers so talk about their improved eye tracking controls with eye control because we all use that so for was the MSI Toby - Toby anyone has an MSI toby laptop super excited about that better support for HDR displays Dimitri's gonna have to redo his video that's another 15 20 hours all right you're my people I hate the people I hate the people button go away people button I don't care and even though that is so and Cortana changes I don't care about those either all right that's that's all that's all I'm done I'm done with that one so most of those are crap in this tent spring update complete junk I like the audio one yeah that one's I don't know but who was like you know what let's let's change the font in Windows Store just when you thought just when you thought Windows Store couldn't get any worse comics and they're giving you the ability to change the font you I understand that that you but but I know but what who what fight which five users were like you know Windows Store be much better if I could change it to like Times New Roman let's get some Calibri in this bitch like why is that even a thing why do we even need that option why did it why are they spending time on shit like that it's gonna revolutionize Windows 10 there's so many other things in Windows 10 that need fixing fucking Windows Store font I like that new audio interface the audio is fine Western Digital maker of of many hard drives diems WD has had several dabbling in the SSD space and I've like so-so WD has always been one of my favorite hard drive manufacturers me too this goes back to actually they're they're RMA procedure because the drives that I've used from WD they've by and large been very reliable solid but of course you're always gonna have hard drives to die from time to time WD RMA back in the day this is like mid 2000s like it was so good ever so you take the the serial number you put it in on their website it tells you exactly how much time you have left for the RMA you can set up the RMA you have like three different options if you want to put a credit card on file they can immediately send your replacement so you have no downtime or if you're willing to wait you can you can send it and they send it back and they did the thing for shipping anyway that among those several of things I like WD so as the global storage standard transitions from spinning mechanical hard drives to flash based I've been keeping an eye on WD and Seagate as the largest hard drive manufacturers to see what they do when it comes to this transition WD today by SanDisk about their W about Sanders's using all their controllers and so they're they're so sheeted now but also means that they have access to NAND flash manufacture this is the latest product from Western Digital it's a WD black 3d and SSD the review over here on Anandtech is by Ganesh and Billy and did a great job and there's there's all these different pages you can go and look at their different things that they tested and stuff like that we're gonna keep this kind of high level since this is just a live show but first off it's important to note that the same drive is going to be released under two different brands so the picture you can see right here there's a SAM disc version and a WD version underneath that sticker they're both the exact same drive with the exact same controller weird what might be kind of confusing is they are reusing the name at least on the WD side the WD black SSD already exists and this is a new WD black SSD the original one I do that had a Marvel controller and 50 nanometer planar TLC NAND flash memory this new WD black slash SanDisk Extreme Pro SSD is based on the same platform as their business om SSD with an SN 7 20s in 720 is a model and that that was actually launched earlier this year they features 64 layer BICS 3d NAND and Western Digital z' own new SSD controller so that's cool I like the WD is developing there drive controllers especially if it's capable of this type of performance so you can see it's available in three different capacities 250 500 and turn in 50 gigs 500 gigs and 1 terabytes three different models here the SanDisk version is only gonna be available in five hundred and one terabyte it's an m2 SSD nvme PCI Express gen3 by fork connection to your motherboard and of course that SanDisk 64 layer and then flash it's got a bit of SK Hynix DRAM therefore cache and sequential read and write performance if you're looking at the highest end one terabyte 30 400 megabytes per second read 20 800 megabytes per second right it's really good sticks with 3400 megabytes per second reads for the 500 gig version drops at 3,000 for the 250 and you get a bit of drop-off and they're sequential rate performance there as well I apps 500k for the one terabyte version 4 10 and 220 respectively for the 500 and 250 gig and a few other relevant stats there as well including total bytes written as far as endurance goes well you might be most interested in is the actual price down here so look at this 250 gig high ends nvme SSD it's dirty for two for 120 dollars 48 cents per gig Wow the 500 gig one is $230 the 1 terabyte is 450 dollars so solid it's pretty solid pricing there considering that's in the review and again I encourage you guys to read the whole review if you want to get into more the details about these drives looking at the price per gig especially comparing it to like the 960 pro from Samsung which has been the fastest nvme SSD for quite some time now you got to pay about 64 cents per gig maybe 59 cents per gig if you're willing to spend for the the one terabyte version of that so that's like a third of the price and pretty comparable performance yeah very few disappointing results from the WD black according to an an tech even when it isn't tied for first or second place as far as the benchmarks go it well above the low-end nvme drives so this has been sort of a dilemma that I've had when it comes to recommending people storage drives obviously a SATA SSD will get you most of the responsiveness and performance that anyone would need kind of a base level but it's like oh you've got that M that 2 slot on your board should you invest in an nvme SSD and for the most part it's like no it's really not worth spending what you'd need to spend to get like a 964 or something like that unless you're doing a lot of heavy read writes work or that kind of thing with the drive yeah but having something that's like a comparable you know hundred ish dollar range for a solid operating system drive that's pretty nice so that's part of the reason I brought this up puts it into like the same abased end two categories yes in terms of pricing yeah well I mean really sweet I haven't looked just like today yesterday but you can probably get a 250 gig SSD for 70 s and $90 like a reasonable one yeah so a bit more frame done to you you're paying a bit more for the MDOT to but you're getting the convenience of you don't have to have an external drives that's connects with a power cable and a SATA cable to the board and it's just it's a very solid like operating system drive to just put in there like it's there it's connected to the board just don't worry about it add on other drives and add on other SSDs for storage for steam drive or that kind of one screw installation instead of four yes so so super convenient that way so there is the WD black 3n + SSD also available as the SanDisk Extreme Pro I didn't I didn't look if you can like immediately buy that right now but maybe I think you can yeah you can just buy it yeah okay all right let's move on so Lou certified is next I'm gonna hold on hold on that's word fate there you go certainly there it is okay cardfight is next swordfight is a segment on awesome part where where Kyle and I take opposing sides of a controversial issue we argue it we do attempt to sway your opinion so there is a straw poll link in this video's description you guys can check that out feel free to render your opinion by voting on that straw poll or you can wait and listen to what Kyle and I have to say sure and perhaps what we say will affect what you think since we are influencers I learned this weekend at PAX East that I am an influencer now and not a tech reviewer oh yeah you know that's my fates been sealed guys I'm sorry I'm sorry I let you down you can now refer it refer to me as influencer bit wit okay single-tier now that that's been cleared up this argument we're about to have his base on this article from Gizmodo G's moto about teen monitoring apps now Kyle we're slightly older right we're not we're not young men anymore speak for yourself well I know I'm although I'm older than you but I'm trying to pretend like I am slightly younger by making you feel slightly older no I am pretty old too right so we're old ends you know we're just as like to be to be dads now as we are to be like young dudes in our 20s or whatever right dad jokes already so eventually you know potentially might have children and obviously anyone who has kids in this day and age is gonna face some difficult decisions when it comes to their kids and giving them access to the Internet now this article from Gizmodo is about teen monitoring apps and the article concludes that they don't work and they just make teens hate their parents and I think everyone saw that coming yeah there's a there's a study referenced in here somewhere this some references to research and that kind of thing obviously what we don't care anything about any of that we just care about our feelings how do we feel about this so we're gonna argue here about the straw poll question this has been linked in chat if you guys wanna answer should just should this be a thing or not because like I try to view it from the perspective of the of you know if if if my parents were using a monitoring app on me or if I was to use a monitoring app on on my kids it's very confusing it's attitude basically I mean those two perspectives are literally at extreme opposites of the spectrum I know and yet and yet we must straddle that we must straddle right on top of it and and view it from both sides so should parents monitor apps on the kids smartphones and computers should this be a thing I mean maybe maybe there's budding parents out there who are gonna listen to this and get some some real good advice the rearing of their children as they attempt to come to mould their young breed like I like the third option that's my favorite part of strawpoll yeah making that a certified actually they kept coming up with the third the anti answer yeah exactly all right and so thank you for posting the lincoln and chat as well cell processing our trusty moderator he does a great job all right what do you what do you think cal which side side of this argument you're gonna I'm gonna hit your horse to well after I just saw Steve from gamers Nexus post in our YouTube chat that he actually planted monitoring apps on me during the PAX East panel that we were both on this weekend I'm gonna have to argue no do not monitor the children or your fellow YouTube influencers because at the end of the day at the other day the more you encroach on their freedom and try to tell them how to live their lives the more they're going to push away and so parents wonder why they have this terrible relationship with their kids it's because they're forcefully trying to control them and parents think they parents are addicted to control especially with their kids because it's the only thing they have they literally gave up their entire lives for these children and they feel like they kind of have the right to control them to control every aspect of their life but really that's poor parenting at the end of the day because when you get to be the age of 18 at least in America you become an adult and you have the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want within reason within the law and you don't have someone monitoring you so if it's your so it's technically your your due diligence and responsibility of as a parent to prep your child for freedom to prep your child to know how to behave and how to live without someone surveilling them 24/7 and it's it creates a a toxic environment between parent and child and I do not stand for it because you know it's it doesn't work it doesn't work for anyone even if you successfully control your child when they turn 18 they're not gonna know they're either I'm not gonna know how to behave without some sort of guidance right like like little be terrible at Skyrim because it's just too it's just too lacy fair and to open world or they're they're gonna just conform exactly to every single rule that they can find and adhere to those rules and they'll feel trapped and stressed and anxious for the rest of their lives so at the end of the day don't be like Steve from gamers Nexus and Steve if you're still watching don't just just did you stop monitoring me because otherwise I'm gonna like I'm just gonna like pull out my dick later tonight when you least expect it and you're gonna just see my dick and that's what you get you spying asshole so go to hell quick aside that's the best way to prevent the FBI from spying on you and the cameras like in your laptop and your your cell phone just constantly show doubt just constantly do video of your taint on those devices Paul gets it why can't you Steve so I gotta do why can't you okay obviously Kyle's wrong he almost always is unless he's agreeing with me so what were you arguing for there you said yes you don't even know what side you're on get a grip Paul no you said no you said no we shouldn't monitor our kids let me explain why you're wrong cow now first off just just to be clear I understand I know where people come from when they have this fear of monitoring and surveillance and all that kind of thing but you know what that's all part of this past right that's a that's a 20th century dilemma that people really need to get over because we're in the Information Age we're in the future and this type of thing is inevitable but really if we embrace it if we embrace the ability of technology to track our comings and goings are our wants and our desires and ends you know our fingerprints our retina scans and everything we will be happier this is the the a I write AI is going to usher in a future of peace and contentment for everyone and it's going to start with the constant monitoring if everyone in the world in order to you know establish the big data analytics for behavioral patterns and that kind of thing that way they can establish where it's properly administer the propaganda in order to subdue you know our subconscious need to rise up and over throw the people who are trying to suppress us it's also gonna help them to establish where they should distribute the soma right that's what they usually you know that usually it's distributed in a gaseous form you inhale that you feel just fine don't worry about so all this comes back of course to monitoring our kids because once we agree to that once we sign into that application we agree to that but check the checkbox find print there it's probably going to be monitoring us as well it's gonna be monitoring everyone and we just need to submit given relax let the AI make the decisions and just go for it and we're it's gonna be a just a bright and pleasant future I think well I was gonna vote for you for president Paul but after that speech I don't know how I feel I'm sure you were I'm sure you were rooting for the the cops to arrest Tom Cruise in Minority Report if if my soma vapor emitters were installed you would you would agree with me very quickly I think okay well you are building a tesla powerwall so if you're already building you're already on your way if I was fancy I would build it myself there's videos on there about people who build them themselves see what why the hell why oh the hell at your building you're right it's you should be monitoring Ted Christie okay it's a DIY builder all right let's see what everyone thinks about this I'm curious all right to know your response I win let's check results I don't know do that no I don't know people agree with you Kyle kids should be kids should be able to explore their own the world and find out it make decisions they should be able to make this make mistakes because that's how you learn that's how you learn for the future of your life only 13% of people watching our show have their parents currently monitoring them so I lose but that you know what I meant to I meant to lose steve says you're trekking my brain thoughts is that true I'm track I'm tracking Steve's mind brain brain Kyle clearly not it's confused I'm confused if I feel safe again Thank You Nina I feel like reinstalling confidence in I feel like right now though right now if I can if I can just work we're moving towards the latter half of my half of the show but some recommended reading right now in 1984 I was thinking about that book well we were discussing this brave new world Animal Farm Animal Farm gonna be a good one too ooh but my god read books read I need to read more books I've really dropped off with that okay we're we're we're rounding out my half of the show and we're actually gonna do some mail time right now add a couple mail things to open why not female time you misogynistic bastard shut up I knew that did changing mail time there we go all right in the meantime whilst I open these packages Kyle maybe can start answering questions sir yes sir let's do it Scott Dilbeck 6.66 cents Cheers I think Scott Dilbeck is the first one to donate in every show he is so congrats top of that you are it's got a proactive fam thank you very much automatic Omak automatic Matt may be the second person to donate to every show automatic dollars past CCNA - now I've got a security plus test to pass tomorrow wish me luck PS I'll be back to watch next week congratulations Matt I'm glad your testing went well and that you passed I'm glad we both believe in you and you knew you would and cool good to see you back next week um we toast I'll do cheap $5 hey guys tried to stock you with packs this year but I couldn't find you fortunately I only live two men it's away from there love you guys sorry I missed you at pax man maybe I'll see you next year I had a lot of fun this year and it was the first time I went to a pax in five years so perhaps I'll be back next year because I just had such a great time wishbone ten dollars do you think I'm gonna be chased by Jason on Friday the 13th it's my birthday I'm turning 26 happy early birthday also the PS 5 could be revealed September 7th 2019 on and launched November 10th Oh Friday the PS worn yoke P is for pro 2018 too early I'm not sure what you mean by that I'd be excited for the PS 5 just to see you know each console you know new consoles are always interesting even to me I used to be a console console person okay Polly we have first package hears from deke Cooley this is from Texas he said hello Paul football as well your YouTube channel has been an inspiration to me and built my first PC about a year ago also love you and Kyle an awesome hardware Thank You mr. Cooley sweet we love you too I'm sending you an old I 566 hundred K was my backup to my i7 7700 case so he had an a 6600 K I have no upgraded to a Z 370 and an 80 600 K the processor works fine hope you can get some use out of it thanks David Cooley hey that's actually you know a pretty really decent this is easy 600 K which is a solid oh yeah solid processor oh yeah you want to upgrade so that for four years let me say two things first off David thank you I'm honored and touched he's I could just give you like 300 old a second for anyone who's inspired by David Cooley I really I don't need more process more hard work just just to be clear David any hardware of any kind I'm incredibly grateful to you for sending this over to me I'm gonna try to find some good use for it or perhaps a donation or something like that but honestly never do that again I have I have lots of processors so guys if you have processors maybe find a pay it forward or something like that find some find you know find a teenager who's just getting into PC building or something like that and held no system for it but yeah maybe I'll find something like that to do with this but thank you very much yeah mr. Cooney all right next up we've got Nikolai Larsen ho5 Australia's after Kyle almost fit Oh after Kyle almost split his baby makers last week talking up the node - OH - I decided to use it from htpc never look back thanks for the advice I almost split my baby makers last week talking about the new - - how do i how do I do that what did you do with my keys oh sorry I stole them I tried to I tried to steal them and okay okay I figure you figure it out before you had to go in here sorry okay well I'm glad to know too is I hope it's working out for you a little case yep great thank you very much for the donation mr. Nikolai Chris soul is $10 hey guys can you recommend any organ ama computer chairs now I was wondering how the verdict your trigger 350 was holding up we have three vertigo trigger 350s in our office we use them every day and they still look brand-new they're very solid they're built to last years and years and years they're expensive granted but quality is top-notch and they're extremely comfortable I need some of those I never have once like thought like oh like had to read just my back like as chair this is frickin chair they're really comfy all right what the hell is that next step on balloon dog mail time all right so this is all this stuff is sent to my P o box by the way my Pia box is linked in the video description as well as the description for all the videos that I do it's peel box for three to five Diamond Bar California nine one seven six five in case you're wondering and this came from USPS so I think this is actually an Amazon order and there is a note in here - dog with the this is from Douglas Bowen he says Paul enjoy your gift thought you would appreciate it as a balloon animal aficionado this is a balloon dog Anatomy toy so oh wow so it actually looks like that it's got organs it's cute you have to put it together I guess so it's not a real balloon it's like a model so I don't know I feel like you should open it up cuz we don't really know it looks like it has the assembling so you do have to assemble the bones together so maybe it's like a little you know just little model that you put together I'm wondering how the balloon part works very curious very interested he's going pup Shepherd for the five bucks what up pup I made my 10,000th tweet today wags wags pup you are my dog you know what I mean thank you very much for the donation and congratulations on 10,000 tweets buddy Dexter 2 4 3 3 $10 well made the leap risin 5 1500 X as rock to be twenty board and two eight gig ddr4 sticks of RAM 335 dollars to upgrade daughters old FX 6300 gaming rig but we'll be using her old r7 370 4 gig card for now sounds like a very sweet setup Rison 5 1500 X is a fantastic chip for the money and I'm sure that you're getting a lot of good use out of it FX 6300 is great for the for the for the kiddo as well so thank you very much for sharing that Dexter and for your donation oh cool yes that is like a balloon animal thingy just yeah you get to put together the bones and stuff that's pretty cool and you know what that's cool I want one what is this like it's got some space there in between what an interesting gift yeah what didn't understand just it's so different it's a very unique balloon dog with like a COO thought that's who thought this up is similar get into a product right it's so disease ha internal organs and skeleton it's crazy and like yeah it's like it's like a weird mix of like cute and demented yeah or expected and to put its own it was a little model these are these are the in between pieces ah yes yes okay every one of these days we'll have you do some real believe put me on the show next we've got sleepy 21 $20 thank you very much sir sup pollen cow I'm looking to set up my audio system currently have a logitech 2.1 system my budget is $1,500 what would you guys recommend I love music with lots of bass if that helps I like music with lots of bass too sleepy honestly there are so many good monitors out there different desktop speakers that you could that you could snatch up I don't work with a lot of those I haven't reviewed many speaker systems to be honest but like for me you're either looking at some really high-end monitors like desk monitors that you'd use his budget is 1,500 so so like some yes monitors because they're somewhat or you could get like a receiver with an amplifier and a full 5.1 or 7.1 surround system for that much - which would be more for like listening in the in the living rooms that you could also connect it up to home theater or something like that right beyond that I don't have any any specific recommendations if anyone in Chad has recommendation for a great audio system for around $1500 blow up chat and so that sleep you can see it and because you guys probably have more good recommendations that we do thank you very much sleepy hope it works out for you insert meme here donated $5 hi I'm thinking about grating my PC I have a Strix is e - 7 th and a 1070 TI in mind any recommendations if you have a 1070 TI man I can't really see why you would need to upgrade that too far to go from there unless unless you're trying to do 4k and maybe triple 4k or something like that then you would need a 1080i maybe three of the two of them or two uh-huh or two of them but yeah ten seven yeah if everything's working fine this is what I tell everyone if everything's working fine and you're not getting taken out of the game every 10 minutes because of some weird glitch or drop the framerate then just stick with what you have that sounds like pretty solid setup okay what you got I think there's beer pop possibly this one felt like there was liquid and this is from common ground distribution ooh in North Carolina so I don't know what that means nor care or do they call it nor care like we call it SoCal nor care nor care North Carolina you nor care North care in nor care this is a six-pack do they call it North care where you're from Steve if you're still thankin tell us tell us via are they like yo what up in nor care we're down in South care this so care appears to be the best packaging for a six-pack this isn't better all right I think this is a six-pack six-pack of what it's a mate mix and match no letter I don't I didn't see anything see anything all right well Jana and Roush wire tenkan a deer's hey guys any recommendations for a small PC case that fits in the backpack small duffle bag that will become an htpc until that silverstone Nast cases out been looking at liam lean pc o v sx check out the no 202 is pretty compact but you need a fairly large backpack to fit that in if you want something smaller so check out some of the Dan cases the a for SFX that is a really tiny case that also fits into screen GPU I would look there first the the entrance one is a fantastic choice for something super portable that would fit in a backpack sg0 5 from silverstone is also really compact I would check out those three yep everyone in chat is validating that the damn case is is a good option what do we got here alright so this is a mix and match from the Ingalls and advantage SIG's import micro brew beer food so it looks like we have three different beers two of each green man green man dry hopped Pale Ale the Rambler alright cool this is from Asheville North Carolina this is from Highland Brewing Company in Asheville North Carolina this is the st. Teresa's Pale Ale golden Pale Ale grease the twice with Cascade hops a nice really nice job on wrapping and packaging this yeah my god with a six-pack I mean you actually bubble wrapped each bottle individually it's probably the best packaging that I've ever seen from anyone sending us beer so kudos to you on that you know you're doing years before his Gaelic tale Gaelic Gaelic ale you look first brewed in 1994 delicious alright so well thank you it was five one that I'm still not positive who sent this because I don't know if there's any and he letter couldn't find any note or anything like no no but thank you to whoever sent this beer yeah old Rob will drink it soon its next weaker than its entirety right next accelerating rate Richmond thanks accelerant max acceleration got it $10 finally cut you live you inspired and taught me to do my first builds to rise in three pcs if you didn't know what would you think about cooler included with the 2700 X will be on Pitt my PC soon what would you think about the cooler included with the 2700 X I don't know what you mean by that um it might be the Wraith max or the Wraith spire I don't know it might not be any cooler because it's a hot it's the flagship CPU so just like they did just like AMD did with rise in first gen there were no coolers included with the higher-end CPUs because AMD just assumed that users buying those chips would be installing their own CPU coolers aftermarket coolers that had better TDP handling that could cool those chips more effectively but I'm a huge fan of the of the Wraith series of coolers the stock coolers from AMD are light years ahead of anything Intel's put out in that class so so um what he's probably talking about is is this here that's a wreath max right there the right max is great it's quiet has RGB fuck yeah and although it does have the clear heal conundrum that Paul and I constantly disapprove of on the show um but you know as long as it's cool and quiet those are the two most important things and it's free so the clear he'll issue is is really a non-issue if they're gonna give it to you on the house so i recused myself you reduce your accuser thank you very much max acceleration bazinga X $10 Paul should monitor Kyle he really needs monitoring yes I do but fortunately for Paul I already have someone monitoring me and that is my wife she definitely needs to the northern lad 10 GBP I want it I'm wanting to upgrade my processor I do it a lot of a lot of 3d modeling animation and rendering shall I wait to see what comes out when I can afford it August time um if you need to do it now then just do it now check out the thread Ripper go the thread Ripper out do the fiber better press pretty pretty nice hell yeah get a 1900 X Kailyn Rochelle says double donation Kyle do more Disney vlogs there's only so many times per year I can go to Disneyland but no more vlogs are coming soon I guarantee it the Jefe reviews $5 thank you just here to support my site a support supporting side a thank you Lou said a gives you a shout-out right back gamers Nexus we call it North cackalacky for real North Cal aqui hello if that means Oh north oh yes it breaks their abbreviation for North Carolina yeah is it North cackalacky ok rolls off the tongue no donation there but hey you know we still ready you always like five bucks Steve Dom pzx nothing for 99 cents have any thoughts on oven baking a 780ti from EVGA the Easy Bake Oven GPU Edition if it's a dead card already then sure go for it if it's not then I why I wouldn't even think I would I wouldn't bother I didn't bake a pizza in Aaron Boggs Temkin eight years just left inpatient rehab for a below knee amputation Oh while recovering at home I built my first PC with the help from your video so thank you fun fact April is limb loss Awareness Month holy man holy crap dude that's that's intense well Aaron I use speedy recovery from that and I hope that your life carries on as as normal and as good as it can and honestly whatever man like you lost to him I hope you're still you hope every one of the springy bottom legs I've seen this it's a little like the curve right oh yeah the ones that looked super legs yeah and even when spring I was in Boston this weekend I was walking by MIT and someone told me that and there's an MIT research lab there that they've actually some guys actually manufactured or created like these Ironman legs that are like like an almost like make you levitate first short periods of time and can kick down steel doors and shit so you're you're technically the future I mean you're like fucking Adam Jensen you know from from goddamn what the hell's Deus Ex and shit you freaking arm and if you're happy if you were to have to suffer through the loss of a limb I have to imagine that that right now is probably one of the better times for it to happen all things considered maybe yeah so that's true but Aaron thank you for your donation and yeah man I wish you the best of lot of 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