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gonna discuss here is memory memory price prices have been just ridiculous for the past like year plus yep right and maybe that's because of specific reasons within the industry you know the popularity of cell phones that are ddr4 memory for example honestly the bulk of the actual sales of like DRAM goes to goes to servers and enterprise market but there's of course other destinations for DRAM chips but the accusation that is referenced in this article from hardware is pointed at Samsung hynek's and micron and those three DRAM manufacturers control about 96 percent of the global DRAM market the lawsuit has been put forth by the law firm Hagens Berman and it's a class action lawsuit against these three companies it was filed yesterday the suit claims that after a global decline in the price of ram chips back in june 2016 these three companies began to deliberately limit their output of drm because DRAM is a relatively inelastic market like people even like people use computers for lots of things people need memory for those computers it doesn't really go away so much anything especially if the bulk of the market is controlled by several small companies there is a historic precedent for this happening in the past I'll get back to that in just a second but June 2016 it alleges that these three companies deliberately limited their output by limiting the output it constricts supply if demand stays the same and supply goes down then price goes up that is how that's kind of one of the basic things and how economics work so the suit alleges that you can specifically track these bumps in DRAM prices that you can track going back sentence to 2016 to the aftermath of industry events where these three companies would have had like executives that could have gotten together at like face-to-face meetings and had discussions that would be off the record and that kind of thing this is all alleged by the way we should point that out but obviously demand prices being what they are it seems like based on historic precedent that's you know there might be some validity to this lawsuit their actions the limitation of the production of DRAM resulted in the price of a four gig stick of DRAM jumping a hundred and thirty percent during the class lawsuit period which is from July 1st 2016 to February 1st 2018 just a couple months ago coincidentally in the same time period as we already discussed a bit on Kyle's half of the show Samsung hynek's and micron also experienced more than a doubling in their revenue that is fishy so they've been doing quite well but this is specifically between q1 2016 and q3 2017 now we should point out that these are the manufacturers of the DRAM chips the the the like these will black chips right there so if you're thinking about memory that you buy from specific memory manufacturers you're probably thinking of like crazy skill or something like that granted you can buy Samsung memory and micron memory but those manufacturers buy the DRAM chips from from these manufacturers and then they actually put it on a PCB and everything like that and right handle the sales and potentially warranty and that kind of thing so you know don't go hating on those sort of in-between companies use this commodity to create a product that you can use in your computer but moving on this all happened before this the I mentioned the historic precedents here's the story a few 914 the register this story was from 2014 but the actual time period in question is 1998 to 2002 so back in 2007 a lawsuit was filed against Samsung micron hynix those same three also included at that time was Infineon NEC and Toshiba they were accused much like they have been just recently of price gouging tactics between 1998 and 2002 hmm this is gone way back that suit resulted in a 310 million dollar settlement package worked out between the chip men chipmakers and of course they denied any wrongdoing as part of this settlement package and the US attorneys general there were also other settlements as a result of this law suits including a 300 million dollar deal with Samsung hynek's in 2005 to 2006 now there's a III I don't know this specifically but there's a decent chance that these settlement packages the amounts that they were charged probably less than what they made by increasing the price of their product during that time that's it's relatively safe to say that yeah so it doesn't pay crime doesn't pay yeah here's the moral of the story and so if they're doing it early if they're doing that worth if they're doing that again then you know maybe they're like alright this this could be a calculated move we're gonna do this over the course of a couple years after while people will get wise to it and we'll probably get sued and we'll pay that money but we'll have made this much and we'll have paid this much yeah so it's shady yeah so you know who knows if this is just gonna be a cycle that continues and happens again in the future but yeah this is relatively new this particular lawsuit there's actually there's also action performed by from China their National Development and Reform Commission pricing supervision Department back in December of 2017 and after that happens the the chip manufacturer is committed to increasing production again so right now we're seeing sort of a the prices start to drop back down hopefully they will go back to being competitors with one another and trying to steal each other's market share which would drive price down even more because I recently discovered I have a video coming out in the next day or two talking about some of this and how it's affected like what you would pay for a reasonably good gaming PC right now yeah and I went back to my old monthly builds videos that I did and like I hadn't realized how far I had dropped up like right now you're gonna pay well maybe not right now but like a few weeks or a month ago you were gonna pay about 200 bucks for a 16 gig ram kit yeah and about a hundred bucks for in foreign aid kits right two years ago in 2016 we have fifty eight dollars you can get a 16 gig kit yeah there's a $15 16 gig 2400 speed kit that I included in one of my things there's a $70 3000 speed ddr4 kit for 70 bucks it's like yeah I mean the prices are absolutely ridiculous and how much they've increased compared to what we know they can sell them for and still make a profit how much of this loss to do you think is valid and how much of it is just here saying yeah I don't know like you have an opinion either way like my my gut would say yeah my suspicion would be that there is some level of collusion going on in order to limit price because you have to look at where the incentive is like and their options are like let's continue manufacturing as much as we can and sort of keep making this much money or let's limit what we output maybe even have to pay less for you know don't have to pay as many workers and stuff like that if they're producing less and make more money like obviously you go with option B all else aside I mean if there's legal constraints that prevent you know Mop monopolies or companies from working together like that then obviously that's a concern for you but if all you're thinking about is making money then you would go with the choice that makes you more money and the choice that makes you more money is limiting production and causing prices to go up so you know it's you know I'm wondering is how how would a plaintiff prove that a company like Samsung was not producing the volume of RAM or memory that they are capable of you know what I mean like how does that the burden of proof like how does that even and that's that's how could you fight that that's a question in this case and from what I've read about it so far the case isn't necessarily saying like here's the smoking gun or here is the you know chain of emails between the executives saying like yeah let's cut production or whatever like that I don't think there's anything to any direct evidence that's that's showing this it's more saying like look at the market and look look at what's happened and there's no practical explanation for this happening aside from there being some level of coordination between these companies to reduce their their their actual production and output their fact it's like we said after nets are is proof Graham being eaten up by cellphone sales and other products that that the RAM might be used for used in but if that can't be if you can't show exactly like here is the demand that ate them all up then there might be some way of you know going through discovery and finding evidence to support that claim and I'm not I am NOT a lawyer so I do not know I wish I was the details of how that would work all that is to say if you want to know what happens back in the Ram bubble of 1998 to 2002 so 1998 to 2002 was when the prices were high lawsuit was filed in 2005 the settlement came in 2014 so that's damn 16 that's 12 to 16 years after it actually happened crazy you could go onto this website this set up and and you could get 10 bucks 10 bucks was the minimum so if you bought like a single kit of memory that was overpriced then you could get ten bucks back but you know I if you had records of your sales and whatever and you spent a lot more than then you could you could get more more back I don't know the exact rule the actual payouts and stuff now this time around it seems like the this lawsuit is being filed much closer to the actual events happening so I don't know if that's going to have any effect on it if this is actually legit and it goes through and they make a settlement or otherwise found culpable for these actions it's hard to say what actual money back you might be able to get you know if you bought a $200 16 gear gram kit in the past year or something like that but they apply interest and inflation probably not rates probably not probably not but that should have been $100 well you get 15 thank you if the ultimate upshot is that you know they're gonna start increasing output now and RAM prices are gonna start dropping back down like I want to say I'm okay with that but that's like that's at least a good outcome like it sucks that this all happens but we need RAM prices to come down to to make what we do more viable and to be able to sell people like here build this awesome gaming PC so yeah it's been tough right hopefully that's what happens yeah all right let's continue with some hopefully more good news yeah although still somewhat speculative mmm this is an ARS technica article and this is why this year's insane graphics card price surge might be over hmm this is specifically tying in to the price of ether at least that's what this chart is looking at this is looking at the prices of rx 570s and RX 5 ATS the blue line compared to the price of ether yeah aetherium which is the little gray line here now of course RX 5 70s and 5 ATS have been very overpriced for quite some time largely due to their popularity and effectiveness at mining cryptocurrency aetherium in particular is well as other cryptocurrencies that are resistant to ASIC designs such as Bitcoin but the going rate for graphics cards like the 570 and 580 more than doubles going back from the beginning of this chart in May 2017 to their peak here and about February of 2018 so pretty insanely expensive the price of ether and other major crypto currencies has been trending downward since January so you can see this bit of drop-off here it has rebounded recently just in the past couple weeks back from 400 up to I think 600 ish dollar range but it peaked at about 1400 in January so it has dropped off now there's still the question of like is there going to be some ether replacements if their replacement that comes out there are other cryptocurrencies that are also asic resistance and the similar designs to aetherium so there's no telling for sure that this in particular is the single contributing factor to graphics card prices starting to come down but it could be part of it bit main has also manufacturer started manufacturing and shipping an aetherium ASIC mining machine we talked about that a little bit on the show as well so that could also not just provide other viable alternatives than graphics cards for miners to buy but it could also increase the difficulty because the more the more mining horsepower is going towards mining etherion the more difficult mining etherium becomes also there is the chance of aetherium moving from proof of work to proof of stake and that would greatly impact the effectiveness of mining with GP with graphics cards because that would completely be emphasized mining with graphics cards it would go to proof of stake which would mean I'm not even gonna try to explain what I mean you do this existing etherion to get more aetherium anyway but more to the points and the article shows here a comparison of a picture of the best by graphics cards aisle in January pretty empty right here pretty empty compared to just recently this is within the dam oh sorry sorry about that dogs are so excited yeah so yeah back at the beginning of January the rx5 80s at Best Buy were selling for how much five hundred and thirteen dollars no no no there's five hundred thirty dollars Bank Ebert Guinea January and they were sold out now they're being sold for four hundred and twenty dollars and they are in stock and in fact we'll check again here in just a second but you can get them even cheaper than that and in stock if you're looking online now continuing to talk about possible impacts on graphics card pricing and discussed in just a previous story is d RAM prices because the price of memory as well as gddr5 for example has caused the like Nvidia change the the MSRP s of like the gtx 1070 for example simply because of the increased cost of memory aside from the class-action lawsuit we just discussed I also mentioned China's National Development and Reform Commission's pricing supervision departments the NDRC began investigating price-fixing from those four major NAND production players Samsung Hanks micron and Toshiba back in December of 2017 just or shortly after that manufacturer is committed to increasing production and we could potentially see a continued drop in D Ram prices which could also impact GPU prices so those those are all factors that could be causing the price of graphics cards to come down and as we've done here on the show before I'm gonna do a live a live check right now this is this is a new egg okay alright five babies or such reasons for egg let's little try try the five eighty sure passed up that all right five eighty what's not 1084 okay this is that's just a default five eighty and when we went to the eight gig five eighty sold by new egg and let's go lowest price as everything so large sapphire 329 all right so these are open box but you can get an 8 gig 580 this is in stock for 330 340 340 345 the cheapest like noon not open box one is $345 I mean it's getting better but it's still far off from what the MSRP is still a hundred bucks over MSRP well MSRP is 250 this is gtx 1070 MSRP right here after this is get a gtx 1074 this amount which is significant bastard you can't no no when it first one okay when it first launched theoretically in a perfect world so that's what I wanted to check next was our gtx 1070 prices now they're gonna be of course way inflated when they first launched you could find like a like maybe not a Founders Edition but just something to some bear basic cooler on a 1074 around 350 to 375 dollars so we've got open box ten 70s for four hundred and fifty six dollars four hundred and eighty dollars the cheapest brand-new 1070 on Newegg that's in stock is five hundred dollars right now which is about a hundred bucks more than it should be similar to the five eighty s so still expensive they're not like as crazy as they were like a month or two ago but still pretty damn expensive and hey if you're considering spending five hundred bucks on a 1070 look at 1070 t eyes please because look ten dollars more that's a good deal ten dollars more over the tea island that seems like a good deal Kyle that seems like a good deal by comparison based on what we're given a 1070 t I should cost four hundred and fifty to four hundred and seventy dollars right so this is only maybe 40 50 bucks overpriced and again that seems like it could deal exactly kinda doesn't it maybe sort of maybe a good deal compared to the 1070 the thing that I was noticing here first off is that no egg for some reason seemed late 1080 GTX to anywhere than 1080 T eyes go there's just not it's not available oh it's because I still have a cake selected sorry sorry okay for some reason no egg groups the 1080 and 1080 TI in the same category that's kind of odd but 1080 you can get for 580 bucks these are open box open box alright cheapest 1080 is $600 right now on new egg brand new and then 1080 Ti so I thought was somewhat interesting 1080i are still like easy thousand dollars cheapest one nine hundred and forty dollars but they're almost double a 1080 yeah but if you go back if you go back to certainly you know three four months ago when graphics cards were overpriced but we're like well what can you still buy the things you could still buy were the cheapest and the most expensive and video cards so you could still get 10 80s and 1080 is for roughly the same price 1080i especially you know it's stuck it's at 700 bucks right for a reasonable amount of time it's only in the past few months I feel like it's suddenly even those highest end cards have also gone way is it cuz people observed optimizing these higher end cards for for mining is that why that they're able to sell at a higher price now because they're more desirable for miners whereas back when they weren't yes I think I think mining on NVIDIA GPUs has become more viable over time yeah because they're also pretty efficient but anyway let's move on sure talking next about Intel Intel has delayed they announced they're delaying their mass production of 10 nanometer CPUs to 2019 this article here from an antic by Anton and this is actually pretty pretty decently big news Intel's suffered a lot of bad news over the past year or so I'd say they're facing a lot more competition from AMD on the CPU side and 10 nanometer has been in the works for a while and they keep seeming to have have to delay it they were originally supposed to ship 10 nanometer products in volume in the second half of 2016 they then delete that 228 second half of 2017 and then Cannon Lake was supposed to ship in the first half of 2018 and then they were like second half 2018 and now they're talking 2019 so yeah that kind of sauce a cow sucks for Intel this announcement came on Thursday of last week April 26 and they are actually currently shipping some 1090 of your product products but they're shipping them in small volumes and they say due to costs they have not ramped high-volume manufacturing for 10 nanometre stuff executives from the company also stated that they are confident of their product roadmap and intend to launch whiskey Lake and cascade Lake products later this year which sounds like something you'd say as an executive by the way we're announcing this disappointing thing for investors but we're still confident since our confidence and being confident about confident things Why Why are they delaying it's they're having difficulty with high transistor I'm sorry there's difficulty with this actual product because they have very high transistor density and caught the consequent heavy use of multi patterning for low yields so in some cases after new quad Penta or hexa patterning for four times five times or six times which means they reexpose the wafer up to six times in order to draw the features of the cpu that lengthens the manufacturing cycle and it can also affect yields as well that of course by definition increased increases the cost the current 10 nanometer manufacturing technologies is deep ultraviolet lithography so the lasers are operating on a 193 nanometer wavelength wavelength they're working also on up come up coming seven nanometer manufacturing process technology that will use EUV technology or extreme ultraviolet as opposed to d UV they say it's not quite ready yet but UV lithography uses laser laser wavelength of 13.5 nanometers for select layers and it also would eliminate the use of extreme multi patterning for certain metal layers so there seems to be some hopeful to get past some of the difficulties with 10 nanometers simply based on the lithography that they're currently using but the article also says that they said the seven nanometer isn't quite ready for Showtime yet so they're still working on getting products out based on ten nanometer I already mentioned many delays with this but can like processors according to Intel have actually shipped this year in small volumes an antic learned that these were Canon like you parts but Intel has refused to state who the customer is or where anyone can buy them so that our Canon like 10 nanometer CPUs out there we just don't know what products they're they're integrated into what which seems weird kind of surfaced by now I don't know there must be specialty products because they can't make a lot of them yes article closes by saying there is outside discussions that means nothing that they've heard directly from Intel but scuttlebutt from amongst other people that they talk about this kind of thing with the Intel could decide to switch right to seven nanometer bypassing 10 nanometer altogether hmm since they push this to 2019 they have a good seven months to figure that out so easily something that they could decide to modify in the meantime but there you go Canon like hopes are dwindling but we'll see what Intel comes out with later this year because they do continue to refine their 40 nanometers and there is of course they continued rumors of like a core mainstream CPUs based on that and whatnot which could still be effective products just not going to benefit from some of the efficiencies that lithography shrink would generally get them alright next article is from video cards comm and this is about AMD Vega 20 so Vega 10 is what the current Vega GPU is Vega 56 and Vega 64 based on bigot 20 is a successor to that and not only is it well it's exciting because it's a it's supposed to be set based on seven nanometer so it's the current or the the the the the chip design that they used for big at ten but shrunk to seven ninety meter and according to this article they're testing it right now because apparently someone at AMD or at Radeon was testing it and did not disconnect from the internet from the internet and allowed 3d markers to be published great yeah good for us this is listed as an AMD Reagan radeon vega frontier edition because it is specifically part of radeon vega instinct so this is probably going to be something that's attached or that's part of their like super hans series of graphics cards so you remember like frontier edition was the first vega based product but you had to pay like 1500 1500 bucks for it when it first launched vega 20 is gonna have 32 gigs of HP m to memory good lord which is which is pretty insane but who knows what AMD is planning and charging for there their instinct products so we'll have to see if this is something that we might actually be able to purchase reasonably feasibly from alina or if it's just something that you know gamers nexus is gonna buy and like to other people and and test it and wanna keep them back here are these benchmarks for this card no one will buy maybe eventually it will trickle down to like real real products like a bigger what's twice 50 things hard one hundred and twelve hundred and twelve Vega hundred and twelve and vega 128 probably but the 3d mark score here is 21,000 126 graphics core you can see all the scores listed here it's it's relatively impressive numbers but of course these are early results and these are leaked and the main confirmation that they have that is vegas wanting to see a device ID which is six six a zero which is confirmed being the biggest when apart from linux display driver patch further demonstrating that this might actually possibly be legit information is this tweet by AMD which says 790 meter Radeon instinct product for machine learning is running in our labs with the internet-connected asterisk and we forgot to unplug it for the internet before running 3d mark shit so someone got fired yeah yeah yeah someone maybe or maybe it was intentional maybe maybe they wanted people to know sneaky organically score yeah all right let's move on to our next segment which is tales from space oh wait I change that tales from very spacious tales from space thanks a cool even though this one in a while what's what's up with space lately I have it's all tales from space I like to talk about space news because what's going on because it's it's exciting and it it's a final frontier inspirational to talk about it mankind reaching beyond the boundaries of itself yes anyway I talk a lot about and we've talked a decent amount abouts about space X you can in tales from space we're gonna talk a little bit about Blue Origin here Blue Origin they successfully launched and landed a new Shepard rockets it's a new gaming now I want to be clear here that the Shepard rocket is a reusable rocket that Blue Origin has been developing and this is not the first time that they have reused a Blue Origin rocket blue Origin's just like another space x-ray Blue Origin is Jethro's bezos's SpaceX Jeff Jeff Bezos moves us from Amazon he's like I have a hundred eighty 1 billion dollars I wanna do space stuff to do space stuff big boy yeah so the cool thing here is the continuation of this trend of like making reusable rockets in order to make space travel more affordable more cost-effective and they were able to successfully relaunch and conduct another test flights of the new Shepherd rocket and this rocket was launched for the second time so eighth test flight of new Shepherd the first test flight that they did back three years or so ago in 2015 failed it crashed boom the second test that they did in November 2015 was successful and then they were able to successfully relaunch that rocket four more times so they got five uses out of that one this rocket here they've already previously launched in December 2017 and this makes their eighth launch of the new Shepherd in total and their second launch of this specific one the new Shepherd is this is I look there there's there's a picture of the flight path where'd that go oh the flight dummy I wanted to show this flight dummy this flight it lifts on our separation there's a capsule so that's what's gonna happen they're trying to take people they want to do commercial space flight so it's a more fun yeah for people for space tourism Disneyland it's an 11 minute it's an 11 minute flight it lifts off it separates you're in the capsule and you go up into space for a little bit the capsule the capsule comes back down and has some parachutes that let it float back down whereas the actual booster has a powered descent so it can land base is trying to go to Mars in blue Blue Origin is trying to do it for you are rich people not for the walls to go into space someone said it looks like a flying penis yeah I think that's what this is right now is that like SpaceX and Blue Origin are just comparing penis size more on that with their rockets more on that in our next just a dick-measuring in that sense a story I'm Shirley with dick shaped rockets who has the biggest coolest baddest penis shaped rocket oh there's a t-minus in the top I should be paying attention to that big-ass penis in the air team is traveling it unguarded yes here's the countdown with 20 seconds left to go blue steel penis so because because they're testing this for future use with human spaceflight they're trying to they're trying to test this to make sure they can bring people up in there they're Manny with a crash dummy which is named mannequin Skywalker do you get just wanted to bring that up because it's funny I dig it oh it's ignition we have ignition and it's about to liftoff sis so exciting so powerful Hey yeah they apart from Anakin Skywalker they've also included a sensor sweets in the capsule to collect data on pressure noise and environments there's also a Schmidt space communicator which is designed to provide Wi-Fi to commercial space customers so when you when you get launched up in your Blue Origin you can tweet about a new Shepard you can make sure that you're tweeting about it the whole time paying attention to like your cell phone and taking pictures rather than enjoying your brief the limit 11 minutes it's basic flight into a capsule he probably paid like tens of thousands of dollars for but hey don't talk bad on those people that much because people like us who could never afford something like that gets a little vicariously through those idiots who are live streaming on periscope you're making the sacrifice so that you can yes share your experience on Twitter or whatever live feed or something like that there's that their stupidity is is our game well let them be stereo Cal let them be stupid so long story short this is a successful test they were able to detach the capsule and recover the racket very exciting Blue Origin has also recently shown some designs for a new Glenn rocket so successor to this one they're going to start testing that in 2020 and they're planning the first crewed flights for new Shepard later this year with the the hope of actually starting to to take people's money and send them into space in 2019 next year does it say how much space I don't think so I don't I don't they've said it's also is 11 minutes in space or 11 minutes for the total flight which means you'd only be in space for like a minute and then like the rest of the time of the 11 11 minutes is getting there and descending well if you look at this that's it's an 11 minute flight because see this is this is nine minutes and 30 seconds after literally just there for like a minute and it's coming it's that it's this is less than 11 minutes Wow right yeah yeah obviously that's gonna I mean I feel like the trips already over by now this is like they should come as soon as you start ascending back to earth then it's no more fun like oh we're going back home yeah party's over like cut the time off right when you're leaving space that's when the fun ends no one's me like and then and then you land in like the middle of some like desert you know how long if I can get backs probably hundred degrees probably thirsty I haven't you know jerk utilize this probably like 11 minutes like some desert like Raiders that come along and rob you and all that it's all part of the experience see that'd be awesome you land back at your thing will you land back on the earth in the middle in the middle of some simulation that like you know in the limits of your complex government collapses oh the chaos and now it's like some book of Eli's yeah exactly that would be worth it totally all right next up on tales from space boeing has said that the falcon heavy rocket is too small see it's a dick measuring contest your dick is too small Boeing says Boeing's like finally just put the headlines for what they are Boeing claims SpaceX is dick is not as big as they're basically a direct insult to Elon Musk's man dick measuring contest man space has just has become just with social media has just become a dick measuring contest and I love it exactly I'm the biggest dick so the falcon heavy them all discussed before takes three fucking nines and straps them together according to boeing is too small and can't meet nasa's deep space needs deep this is according to a new website that boeing put up called watch s fly now they created this to promote their aerospace industry and specifically what they're working on right now is the sls the Space Launch System this is a picture of the rocket that's in development once the Boeing builds SLS is operational says Boeing it will be the most powerful rocket ever built that's actually not true will tell you it will tell you why it well I guess it will be if you go like 10 or 15 years into the future to what their ultimate plans are with it but as their intentions the most powerful rocket ever built right now is the Saturn 5 from the 1960s and 1970s it was used in the Apollo program that could lift 118 metric tons into low-earth orbit now the initial configuration of the SLS booster that they're working on right now will be able to lift 70 tons to low Earth orbit which is about 50 tons less than 118 that the Saturn 5 can do it is however about six tons more than the Falcon Heavy the Falcon Heavy can do 64 so 64 tons for the fog and heavy 70 tons for the SLS booster which doesn't seem like that much of a difference but it should also point it be pointed out that the SLS will have a more powerful up upper stage which will enable it to send more mass into deep space so that part at the end after they get past low-earth orbit to where they need to break further beyond that and send something further out it might have better capabilities for that NASA also as mentioned has plans to upgrade the SLS it's a it's a multi multiple fees to this project beyond this the 70-ton lift version that they have going on there is a hundred and five tonne lift configuration but that won't happen until the mid-2020s at the earliest and it will probably cost several billion dollars and nasa is funded by the US government's it's weird taxes I won't continue down that line no but that's a whole that's a whole rabbit hole that we have yet to yes to adventure into now beyond that 105 ton configuration which sounds pretty badass but also pretty far off there is the final form of the SLS rocket which will be able to lift a hundred thirty metric tons final fom the most powerful rocket ever pseudo super slam but there's no real timetable or promise of when that was yeah presumably you know after they get billions of dollars to get to Boeing or whatever in the meantime beyond the plans for the SLS in the future and this is what the articles pointing out is that if if Boeing really wants to come out with this website that's like SpaceX doesn't have the power and the wreck it's not good enough and this is based on what we think we're going to do in the next five ten or fifteen years that you should also give space X and and and Blue Origin credit because they're also working on the big fuckin rocket which is just funny to say that big fucking rocket yeah the big Falcon rocket if you say it quickly enough and I don't know too much about the specs for that but it's presumably a large larger than the Falcon nine of the Falcon Heavy and Blue Origin has also proposed a new Armstrong booster which also just bigger and better but not much details beyond that so the space race continues says that's good to have competition in this market yes one last story here's four tails from space and that is a new galactic map which is should able to show you the position and brightness of 1.7 billion stars here's here's a picture of it but you can also go down here to this 3/6 to youtube video ooh it's a 360 video so you can click and drag is that of real space yes is an actual picture of looking at space right now maybe not right now this is what's Gaia Gaia so Gaia is a probe I believe that's what it would be classified as a probe it was launched by the ESA the European Space Agency so um this update was just last week on April 25th they unveiled this new highly detailed sky map of the Milky Way galaxy showcases the brightness and position of nearly 1.7 billion stars this is the most comprehensive catalog of stars to date it includes precise details about many stars distances movements and colors and it was built with data from the ESA is Gaia spacecraft which was launched back in 20 2013 and is currently 1 million miles from Earth it continuously scans the sky with two telescopes it rotates once every six hours kind of like me and it Maps one big circle of the sky it takes about two months to get to cover the entire sky and then it does it again in order to update position and and that kind of thing by mapping this star's color brightness and movement it can provide information on the Stars composition distance whether it's moving towards or away from us which is referred to as the radial velocity of the scart star they've been able to get that for about 700 thousand stars of the 1.7 billion that have done that but above all the new guy a map will help astronomers piece together the history of the Milky Way's formation it's thought that our galaxy grew into its current form after merging with much smaller galaxies billions of years ago the guy mission is planned to last for five years so which I'm not actually hundred percent sure about because it launched in 2013 and the missions supposed to last for five years so that would be like this year yeah it's over but it also says that it's been mapping for 22 months so 22 months ago wasn't five years ago no that was closer to two years ago yeah so yeah after 14 months of mapping it mapped 1.1 billion stars after 22 months of that being at math 1.7 billion stars so the longer it has time to map the stars the more stars that gathers information on and adds to its database but however long that five-year period lasts whether it's ending now or ending three years from now they are hoping to extend the mission for an additional five years afterwards so that's pretty cool hopefully we'll be getting more data from Gaia so that's that's pretty good all that lighting that in this photo is from stars correct yeah these are all stars so that means there's an absence of stars in this like sort of middle sector like where it becomes black well yeah because it's looking at the Milky Way right so oh that's one of the things so like down here you can see like this stuff down here these are the galaxies buzzer other guy yeah that's crazy apart apart from like a little neighborhood apart 1.7 billion stars it's also mapped half a million distant galaxies that are really far away as well as 14,000 asteroids that are much closer that are in our solar system so giving us more information about that so that we can do the what is the one where we have to send the crew of people up to to kill the asteroid that's about to run at earth deep impact or Armageddon either one pick cool all right so there we go tales from space has now concluded retweet now we are going to end my half of the show with playing video games use the the basic concept is that we used to do after parties after our live show and then we realized that that was tiring and it's and we didn't always do it but now we're gonna play video games and I'm not sure if it's actually gonna work cuz it's been a while should I read some donations yeah in the meantime while I see if I can get this up and running sure I do have a couple donations left over or just one donation leftover from my half this is from dust eh 99-81 $5 risin 5 1500 X coolermaster a oh that's in gigabytes of RAM GTX 1066 gigabytes should I go 2600 or 2700 I would go with the 2700 Oh our our stream just a video oh I'd go with a 2700 I don't think this 2600 would be a massive upgrade or as big of an upgrade as the 2700 I have been said in a recent in my X 470 versus X 370 video that if you had a risin 3 or Rison 5 fixed first gen parts the only worthy upgrade would be going to rise in 7 seconds so a second sticking to my guns there I would go for the 2700 dusty thank you very much for your donation and then pulse half bazinga X $100 from bazinga thank oh my god you fear here is your 100 if the I 979 80 X and I'm guessing human he means 79 80 XC and thread Ripper were the same price would you still go for the thread Ripper rampage 6 extreme if Intel which motherboard for thread River Kwai I like Asus if they were the same price 1950 X 79 AD XE no the same price because it has faster better performance it's got a better single single core performance better than three pairs so yeah if if money is no object then 79 80 ex and ex2 nature board will you go if you went forever um I'd go with Asus I'll go with an Asus board or maybe an as rock board those are my two favorites 399 Taichi from a track which is actually a micro ATX motherboard but has all the bells and whistles and has been pretty stable right now it's it's crazy gta5 just loves to lock up the the webcam for some reason really I can refresh the capture ah that's really weird pup Shepard $5 I am here wags wags have fun hey pup thanks Pat wags wags back teaser Chris Wesley $20 have an AMD 1632 gigs juice no memory nvme samsung SSD 960 Evo 250 gigs and 2 more miscues hopping private engage that the burps is this great for video editing sure to upgrade more you have been arisin 5 1600 your 3 2 gigs of G still memory is fantastic for everything the nvme storage is gonna serve you very well for editing I'd say your shortcoming here is the CPU with only having a risin 5 1600 I would want 8 core 16 threads in my primary editing system if I could muster it budget wise and a GTX 1063 gig version 3 gig card I would I'd like to see that up to a 1070 a gtx 1070 would be smooth sailin for video editing you can definitely get by on G on a GTX 1063 gig but I would say a 1070 would be a worthy upgrade if you were editing often and it was part of your daily workflow so thank you very much Chris for that donation fat guy fun time $5 big fan from fat guy funtime Paul I started streaming after watching your channel oh thanks bro keep up the good work man thank you thank you for getting inspired fat guy to stream I'm very I'm happy about that that makes me it makes me happy good thank you thank you very much red guy Jager G $5 I have a 6600 K with a be 150 motherboard bought the motherboard before I was aware of the ability to overclock 350 he won't should I buy a z170 or save an upgrade to Z 370 if you're gonna upgrade then upgrade to the latest platform is usually what I recommend if you're on an older platform existing then just stick with that because it's probably good enough but if you're gonna buy something new go with the latest and greatest so I would suggest the Aussie 370 if you wanted a sixty six sixty six hundred K but you also have to weigh in how much that's really gonna benefit you to overclock your sixty six hundred K if it's gonna require you to like redo your whole system it's gonna take you know a few hours to pop in that motherboard plus you know a couple hundred dollars to buy that motherboard you have to decide is the workload that you're doing very CPU bound we're having a three to four 500 megahertz overclock is really gonna benefit you to to to make the money worth it that's that's gonna have to be something that you figure out for yourself but yeah it goes Z 370 if you did it end up deciding to upgrade over Z 170 for sure Chris Wesley 10 bucks by the way Jagr though one last thing to mention is there's been rumors of a Z 390 because Z 370 had limitations for sure because you can look at like the HD 70 that just come out you get USB 3.1 you get well those you get a tattoo that 11ac that's built-in that doesn't that's not part of the chipset natively with C 370 so there's expected to be a successor to it and we're not sure if that's if if there's also an eight core CPU that launches what kind of compatibility requirements will be there that kind of thing so yeah maybe wait for Z 390 to see what is available it might be worth it because it's May 1st right now and beginning of June yeah beginning of June is when Computex happens so it's gonna be any big launches coming up it might be worth it to wait and see what happens they yeah never never buy hardware a month before Computex yeah it's pretty excellent Chris Wesley $10 by the way I love you guys to the moon and back we love you to Jupiter and back which is further meaning we love you more than you love us so get on our level and thank you very much for the donation it's very true mr. Chris Wesley oh gosh it froze again b67 30 nose and 37 cents sorry one sec I'll fix it do you stop or can you - I mean they can probably hear me they can probably hear a little keep talking MB 6739 37 cents palm glad to see you getting back into the swing of things content wise and they hope that 1 million subscribers happens for you soon Cheers thank you sir it will that you have not been slowing down momentum you're still gaining subscribers I look I look at your social blade statistics from time to time and you are still gaining subscribers like every other channel and it's it's just it's literally just a matter of time before you hit one mill before before we're all in the mint the mill in above Club and I like I don't know what that means I need to join that Club I don't know what that means I don't have to ask J he's been in it for a while I'd be like what kind of perks do you get in the one mill Club the ultimate benefits people just like you know your system is more than capable to handle streaming and gta5 yeah it's I know that you move okay no are you running at 4k no I ever feeling like that needs a system restart or something like wouldn't NZ good more value that might be there are frustrated if I want to keep going here with NZ Odin for the 5 GBP Congrats on hitting nearly went 760 thousand subs Paul hehe oh I'm very close spec list that he's very close dust eh 1991 $5 risin 1500 X overclocked to 3.9 gigahertz with the coolermaster AO 16 gigs of 3200 RAM GTX wait shit oh wait this is a repeat sorry that's a repeat Omar Motamedi $5 in 1605 point 69 euros had to use VPN to send a super shot because it doesn't work in Egypt oh well hello hello - I just bought the bit winzip or who you recently took forever to arrive but worth it yes it definitely is thank you for saying that mr. Omar so well we appreciate you and your comment from Egypt hope all is good they're just in w10 Canadians I think the dog wants treats go by the doctor treats the dog is the hero's treat number one treat is his balls so and he has those 24/7 so I think hero's doing just fine I'm sure treats otherwise look at the slideshow that I'm putting out holy shit Wow alright but lucky for you I have a few more donations to go over well you get that shit straightened out we have Joseph and Rica's $4.99 so what would be better for 2k gaming no streaming the Intel 8700 K or the AMD 2700 X I would go 2700 X you get two more course for more threads and gamers Nexus has already shown that you can have a better streaming experience with the 2700 x over in 8700 k both for the streamer and particularly the end user so you will potentially be able to up your bitrate settings and your streaming settings while still maintaining higher frame rates with an 87 I'm sorry with a 2700 X that is the takeaway that I've gotten so far Darryl may $5 Intel a smart timing is everything astute observation mr. Darryl and I would have to be inclined to agree with you on that I thank you very much for the donation Joshua Kraft $5 guys spread the love to both channels with the risin upgrade ok I can't tell you guys how smooth my actual gameplay experiences this from what you everyone's actually home because I can see what everyone is actually singing over there and it's not it's not pretty alright let's even on next I feel like even on exploit it doesn't preview exactly what your viewers gonna see but Joshua Kraft $5 got to spread the love to both channels but with the rising upgrade should I upgrade to the x4 70 chipset have the asus hero 6 if yes what motherboard I would stick to your same motherboard there's really no difference I've already tested x4 70 vs x3 70 in a recent video that I posted on launch day for second gen risin and there was no performance difference right now no performance difference stick with your Asus hero v r6 and if you are still so inclined to upgrade then I don't know go with any zeus board go with an as rock board I don't know TV check $10 oh wait it's David Jackson that's a quite a rocky my do record can you imagine that a rocket I can carry well over 20 metric ton of the baby oil into space what that's a rack of baby all you oh he's talking about their egg from 20 metric ton of baby oil in the spaceship in the space space environment that's a rapper rocket fear baby that's interesting concept to have that much baby oil put into space I'm sure you can do a lot with that there the possibilities seem endless and my brain my imagination just runs rampant with this with this concept but maybe you will have to you know put that into actual testing once Paul and I sign up for the the blue what is the blue blue blue horizon blue what's the Jeff basis is a Blue Origin the Blue Origin space experience maybe Paul and I will do that one day for a YouTube vlog and we'll bring some baby oil into space and test it for you firsthand I'm looking forward to that I'm sure that's gonna happen at some point it's just a matter of time zip lock $5 why is Kyle not wearing his ring this time because I am allergic to metal all kinds of metal I learned is like Magneto I'm like magneto but I have retarded superpowers instead of awesome ones so yeah I do like start shedding skin and I get I breakout and I'm if you ever want like metal is my kryptonite if you ever see me at a LAN or something or at some event and you you don't like me just throw a piece of metal at me you know I'll probably disintegrate into dust but yeah I'm starting I'm trying to like work on like maybe coating the inside of the ring with like I don't know nail polish remover or something with some kind of layer to create a separation between my skin and the metal because I don't respond well to it Trinity Sloan $5 what's your favorite beer to drink casually and favorite to get drunk you guys Rock I think you can get drunk on any beer I don't think anyone has a preference on what kind of beer they liked drunk on usually it's like shots or something today I'm we're drinking downtown Brad to drink casually I do enjoy a nice brown brown ale like what we're drinking today or sometimes a solid like German Pilsner is good casual beers yeah like lighter beers if you're just drinking to drink during the day de beers you know like lighter music I feel like the lighter the beer the the more early on in the day you can drink the darker the beer gets that I usually reserve that for later at night more heavy drinking you know more full filling filling drinks I reserved for the eat the evening or late evening stouts and porters I'll reserved for late at night but during the day and the summer or whatever just a refreshing beverage I'll go for a lighter drink like a lager or a pilsner you can't decide there's always bud ice there is always but ice or you know Mickey's you can do natty ice if you're feeling desperate you could do Old English if you're feeling homeless or the OE there's a lot of options out there we used to do a mixture called blood juice ooh that sounds terrible what happens if I google blood juice I don't want to know Trinity Sloan $5 what's your favorite beer to drink no way that's the same one okay something she five dollars here's another five Doris you guys are the absolute best live stream out there someday I'll get in on Pitt my PC good it submit bra much love 90 wags Thank You EDA blood juice is full-on like Mickey's just the recipe right here on the tryin packet of an urban dictionary it sounds terrible so the way blood juice works Mickey's malt liquor works you can also use Old English like like a ghetto for tea is what you're really liqueur yeah by the way this is only recommended for like dudes sewer whore livin single I want to say 22 or 23 and you just want to get hammered and you don't care about so you take you take you take the 40 and you're gonna drink about a fifth to a quarter of it with the OE we would drink it down to the top of the label then you take a packet I forget what do we do first I think we did the night train first so you get the bottle of night train if you're not familiar with night train if you've ever seen a wino with a with a paper bag they probably have night train in it it's it's like really horrible wine but it's like 20% or 30% night train that's what that is so you pour it before the night train in to refill the what you drink down so we're boodle that up and then you get your packet of cherry kool-aid you definitely want the red the cherry kool-aid dump that in and then when you we need to this isn't a 40 but when you dump the kool-aid and it's immediately in a physics so you're gonna need to cap it right that's why oh he works good because he can screw the cap back on so getting a type of beer that you get a cap back on you do that cap it and then put it in the freezer why do you know so much about this cuz my friends used to just have a just they were blood juice kind of like he was really like super into blue blood juice he wanted to do this because what are these things and you just you would just be a knight lately right you'd be pretty destroyed so anyway pop it in the freezer for like 15 minutes and then when you open it up again it shouldn't explode everywhere although you should still be kind of be careful of that and then you drink it and the weird thing is like you have this horrible beer and this horrible wine and like kool-aid and it makes it taste like slightly sweet but it's actually a pretty palatable blood juice all right well I'll have to try that sometime maybe I'll try it tonight yeah really like I said I like I said this is degenerating stuff so like oh yeah if only if you're it definitely sounds like rage juice you're young and you have itwe haven't really had that much of an impact your spirit yes and you actually I feel bad for telling people about that it's the modern day for local Robert Cavinder the third five dollars I'm doing the buildin a traveler P I know lol I'm a huge Mass Effect fan NZXT air fans or Corsair light loops for the system additional five hundred percent improvement on air I don't think so I don't know it's a matter of preference I feel like both of those fans are pretty good NZXT airs have the you know I think with the airs you're gonna get more custom ability customizability but especially if you like you Plus yeah I need to connect that to a hue plus and they're digital and everything so that's cool but there's a lot of extra cables that you need to run I realize that when setting up my air system that I did yeah it's there's a lot of cabling that goes on so getting it set up exactly how you want takes more work yeah so the light loops might be a little bit simpler for you but yeah just go go with them if you if you want fancier LEDs but a little bit more work with the installation go with the air yeah and keep a little bit simpler to then go with the Corsair Chris Wesley five dollars twenty six hundred X or 1600 X 2600 X cuz it's newer yeah yep Dave new at noon is five Canadians I thought thunderbolt was going royalty-free this year was hoping for Thunderbolt on X 474 risin I heard about that too I'm not looping that's all I know yeah yeah you're gonna have to find that on like a laptop or something or like an Apple computer unfortunately all right let's let's take a look at some Johnson's here really quick I only have two or three Ethan thank you for picking up the words in the circle tall boy pint glass isn't double Johnson DJ Ethan thank you for your purchase of the oxblood t-shirt as well candace johnson to you cpu cooler stainless steel bottle opener and a rip game pen short ray from Texas thank you for picking up the thumbscrew navy blue t-shirt Johnson to you sir Christoph I'm probably butchering that immensely but thank you very much for picking up a beware of bottlenecks dark gray Heather t-shirt Daniel from Texas thanks for grabbing the oxblood t-shirt as well 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