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Awesome Hardware #0150-A: GTX 1180 on TechPowerUp, DDR5-4400 RAM Demo, No More Kaby Lake-X

2018-05-08
okay sorry I forgot to click the actual go button I just did it from the drop-down all right should be live now just about yes I see myself cool hey everyone and welcome this is awesome hardware it's a live show about technology and we stream to twitch TV / awesome hardware every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time the show's split up into two halves this is episode number 150 it's our sesquicentennial episode and right now Kyle's getting a fan because it's hot we live in Southern California and it's decided like hey let's be warm now and so Kyle is just setting up the fan back there behind me as things get started for today a quick word of warning we do drink some beer on the show that's just kind of something that we do so feel free to drink along with us if you have a of age and drink responsibly but also be warned that we do occasionally use adult language so this this show is aimed at adults so if you are not cool with hearing an occasional curse word not like all the time 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yes no one can see your password alright today we're gonna talk about some hot and heavy hardware Intel's cancelled to keep you like X processors new case from in win its new fans from Noctua finally and the first kind of more legit rumor leaked thing for the GTX 1180 yeah invidious upcoming graphics card so very excited thank y'all for joining us today and I was about to like go right into a nice choose the cows got a poor beer I do pour that beer Kyle porn where that beer not on the laptop he was born not in my eye be careful into the cup and what was that why did that make a noise stop that cheers you mother-effer cheers and cheers to all of you thanks for joining us guys thanks it's for being here okay go a can no one likes you just giving you a damn sometimes cam is occasionally useful all right adios good cool cool we started off with some questionable audio but it appears to have fixed itself that fix itself we fixed a bit we were gonna have reggae playing in the background this time but I think since we changed the audio settings it's gone so that's fine what all right whatever yes all right first segment is not in my PC none of these are accurate hold on won't update this we prepared for today yeah we did what is my first thing time have you heard where each there it is that is okay sorry honeybee hurry hey hey committed to the lower thirds that we spent about 10 seconds each to set up all right KPIX first thing we're going to talk about we thought KB Lakes X was stupid and apparently all of you guys did too I can't be like X if you're not familiar was just a couple CPUs that were based on KB Lake architecture launched along with a guy like X and it was it was an i7 and an i-5 a fork or eight thread and a fork or four thread CPU built for the X 299 platform LGA 2066 which was which was very high it's the high end desktop platform from from Intel so it's everyone was like why why would you do this you have a mainstream platform if there was no mainstream platform than it might have made sense you know give people a way to get in on on X 299 and everything but Intel did it anyway in my opinion they they should have marketed marketed it as a niche item that was made specifically for overclockers if they had tried to sell it that way I think people would have been more okay with it but they didn't they were like hey here's a here's a viable product the people should buy and everyone was like no that's stupid if you first have off the motherboard they had to buy to go along with this was gonna cost you a minimum of like 300 bucks maybe 250 if you could get away with it so that's a premium right there and then the motherboard that you just paid a bunch of money for you slap one of these processors in two and you get yourself 16 PCIe lanes instead of 44 but you get what the high-end ones are 28 with the the six core and you also only get dual channel memory so of you're like eight DIMM slots you get to use half of them or if you had one of those motherboards that only had four dimm slots then you only get to use two of them so it's really stupid nobody liked it there were a few niche areas that they were useful like overclocking they were pretty good at overclocking they were good for memory overclocking but they're just completely impractical so good riddance not too surprising then Intel end-of-life to them early this is definitely pretty early since they only launched just last year with the x2 9 9 stuff mid to 17 not not that not the lengthiest lifespan for a an Intel processor but the Tom's Hardware article has their milestones for the end-of-life process product discontinuous discontinuance program last corporate assurance product critical date basically November is when most of the most of stuff happens orders are non cancelable for I guess for retailers or whatever yeah so no more cable ik X EA the PC landscape is slightly less confusing moving on an win has introduced a couple a one series Mini ITX enclosures this is a WCCO tech article all these things but it's actually this isn't rumor and speculation these are actually have been posted on and when landing page so they have these at CES and stuff and Computex yes yeah so this is a pretty cool-looking little mini ITX case and it's yeah it's got tempered glass anodized aluminum on the frame the bottom is transparent around here and will light up with RGB lights which everyone likes see here here you can see it in pink which is very very alluring color it is a small case but it holds 20 litres if you want to fill it with liquid which you probably shouldn't do since you're gonna have a computer in there or not does still support our coolers up to 160 millimeters also supports dual slot graphics card you can see an asus strix card that they fit in there up to 300 millimeters in length so still supports all your high-end hardware the only thing that this points me is the front panel IO just a bit you got a couple USB 3.0 ports but I'd like to see a Type C up there I'd like to see a 3.1 gen2 port up there and just I'm getting that's a new fan of the two-tone either it's a new case not you don't like the two-tone like thirds I think it looks ok on the black model the white model light with the red or the white with the blue oh no the to time the i/o have I just just like gray yeah yeah ok cleaner in white and I asked I'm also not a huge fan I like the case but the bottom trend transparent part I'm not a huge it's like it's like if you took a mini ITX case and put it inside of a clear high-heel is this kind of is this Marcus your heels we're clear here is a little bit of getting some clear heels vibes no no I feel like I maybe would have to see a video or something - is there a video there is a video thank thank god there's a video let's let's watch this on youtube let's see if we can actually see oh good they have the entire design process look would use a 5 hour video pictures on there's a nice elevator shot I do love them just I do like the honeycomb exhaust yeah and when has done a multiple it's a good job on that so there's a shot of your part that you hate you have to silver alright show us I don't hate it I'm just not a huge fan Kyle hates this case no I didn't say that I thought this was the RGB LEDs and it's not where are the RGB LEDs up here up here there wow that was quick this is oh this is clearly don't want you to see the highly produced video orchid aren't you look at all the movement ins and everything it's so fast you can't even see the goddamn products how you know it's really highly produced didn't meant to mention this but there's an optional qi wireless charging station that you can add to the top I don't believe that's included by default oh and give me buy that separately it's that it's not there they're not showing it what are you sorry what are you looking for I wanted a video of the RGB LEDs on the bottom just so I could see it in action if they're fading or whatever just there's literally this is the single shot of it you get right here just I mean it doesn't look all that like I feel like the the since it's so transparent the whole thing's transparent it almost like there's an inner needs to be more led for how much transparent plastic there is it may mean it had been a sliver of transparent stuff then it would really look full the lighting would look really like clean and it also needs to be this like they that that was the light with a bunch of other light around it if that was just the case on a desk with no other light and that was the only light then it might look cooler possibly but but maybe you're not the LED strip come included or do you have to add your own it's the the LEDs part of including not included in the case the RGB bottom part there so it's this a fan mount right there like the back and then the side and you can you mount fans at the bottom I get one fan there exhauster for a cooler a liquid cooler perhaps I don't know if you could put a liquid over there yeah about 120 you might you have to have a really short graphics card yeah your private well anyway there's some exhaustive so yeah I guess the airflow would be a kind of a question on this maybe is there maybe it's ventilated on the bottom I think it is yeah I think and you can kind of see right here I'm just I can't remember if there are fan mounts down there I want to say yes I want to say there are but I don't see any they should advertise that if if you can put fans down there yeah that would be good to know nice looking case yeah looks pretty cool I like small cases and the layouts the layouts pretty cool too so I didn't mention but it includes the power supply so it's 170 dollars which is expensive but like a piece you can includes a power supply so if you're gonna spend like I feel like 150 dollars is a reasonable price for a case in a power supply you can get a pretty good power supply in a pretty good case for about 350 bucks yeah so this is mini ITX so maybe that makes it a smaller but there's expensive mini ITX cases - this is ready for pre-order on their store their East or the in wind store if you wanna order it directly on May 15th so next week planned shipping date of May 30th but they said targeting a shipping date of May 30th so I guess they're they're not 100% confident in that you know you never know with case shipments they're always potential for delay true if it's a brand new case alright let's go with one more hot and heavy hardware item here which is Noctua finally finally has released the nf8 12 by 25 it's like when Disney releases a movie just a stupid stupid name it's a stupid name I'm not too a fit and F is not a fan I'm just making this out this is an amazing name he's got a stand for airflow twelve hundred and twenty millimeter yeah that makes perfect sense yes search engineering name it's not an F in twelve by twenty five PWM just actually comes in in several models so umm Noctua has a little video on it here they've teased this at Computex like every year that I've been going to Computex maybe not that long but you go by and like here's this fan we've been working on and I go for the past like three or four years but that means they spend a lot of time working on it the blades themselves is what they spend a lot of time on and they actually have a pants patented new material and they're made out of they've called it sterics s ter ro X due to the rigidity of sterics liquid crystal polymer of the Vegas of the love the sterics liquid crystal polymer it can be used to make fans with a very small tip clearance so it can match or even beat two of naktu as regular n ff12 fans in cooling performance tip clearance tip clearance so they're talking specifically about a cab frame the gap between the tip of the fan and the frame I see the fan frame right there so they can if they want to be as small as possible they want that to be as small as possible because reducing that to having that that that record tape tip clearance increase in air tight kind of yeah so it increases the efficiency it reduces vacuum leak flow out of there also the exceptionally low thermal expansion coefficient and excellent dimensional stability and health as well and this is actually something that I recall talking to Noctua about when I went and talked to them at Computex which is that look it's not that difficult to make fan blades that are really really close to the edge of the fan housing right what's difficult is when those fans are spinning and those fans are heated that they still have that very low clearance because with the material that you build the fans out of there's a certain amount of expansion that might come when the materials warmed up for the blades things might expand I see and also you know do the due to the rotation so they needed a material that they could produce that shit wasn't ridiculously expensive to produce that would maintain its shape that also had other factors like being relatively lightweight and all that kind of stuff beyond just the material that it's made out of the they've got these little ridges and stuff like here and like every time you see if a fan they always like point like oh yeah this cool fan blade design like we put these little notches in it or whatever and I'm always like that's bullshit yeah not to is the only company where I'm like I've this is probably legit a students they probably tested like test hundreds and thousands of different fan blade design types in order to make sure that you know whatever little grooves they're doing and there aren't just aesthetic or whatever they're actually helping it's the oil slight that it almost looks like it wouldn't do much right it's just so subtle but like they're calling this a a Oh or advanced acoustic optimization for the frame and flow except they coat they call them they called flow acceleration channels on the blades and they have several versions of this that they will be selling a 4-pin PDF PWM version that will have automatic speed control if you plug it into a PDF PWM controlled fan header they're also going to do a three pin FL X version that will have low noise adapters that ship in the box so you can do three different speed settings even if you're plugging them directly into just your standard 12 volt connector from molex or something like that near-silent 3 pin ultra ultra low noise version also will be available price actually is two million dollars not as bad as I thought it was gonna be twenty that's 30 30 US dollars twenty nine ninety is the suggested retail price in the US twenty nine ninety is also the suggested retail price in euros if you're gonna buy this in the EU or someplace that trades in Euros they also have prices for the NFP 12 redux that they have also released along with this announcements as well as this adaptor oh it's an adapter frame so you can use the 120 millimeter fan on 140 millimeter water cooling radiator that's a bull that's a bold statement like 120 millimeter fan will do better on your 280 millimeter radiator definitely a vote of confidence yeah and interesting but why here some test but why not make these fans black that's a good question and I like knocked Whois there so they're very particular about the color and they got complaints and completes took some years of people complaining like we love your fans they're so well made and you know they're expensive but you buy them and you realize because they're just really good fans performance wise and noise wise and everything and it took years of like harassment for them to release the industrial design ones that are the the gray and black or whatever rank so yeah my guess would be that they will also make this in that same color maybe make an industrial industrial version of the NFA 12 by 25 I just feel like they would dominate the market like if they if they played the game a little bit but you also have to remember that not to uh like we are not well I can't say this for sure but we are definitely not knocked to as only customer they make fans and cooling solutions that you know PC enthusiasts like to take and put into their computers but they also have industrial contracts that with like large companies they work with an enterprise level where they do specialized products for cooling of stuff that needs cooling I like right I don't know specifically so I don't want to speculate beyond that but I just know that and when I have gone to their booth at Computex and stuff like the last time I went there they had this massive block of copper and they're like you're hold this it okay like wow it's heavy and it's like they taking stuff like that that needs to be machines to like some insane level of precision so that they can use it and I don't even know I don't remember what they're using it it's cool it for but they get paid a lot for that type of thing I have to imagine so that's interesting there that they have so many clients outside of the PC like sort of PC enthusiasts space may be an enterprise realm or where else that their fans kind of like almost trickle down to us like you know any mean like they don't miss it like knock - it doesn't need our business in a sense which could explain why they don't go the RGB route to know it like littered all their fans with Natalie they're just LEDs are professional trolls and worry like haha maybe they like the haters you get tan and maroon or and you like invariance of that forever all right let's move on though to some stay no no let's move on to nothing oh no the Lords say nothing I love this segment there should be a segment where we literally just talk about nothing I would be a good segment right it'd be like Tech Talk because they don't they don't that's their mo they don't get on they don't typically put no yeah show planning because just very well they misinterpreted as a as a shots-fired right wasn't that no it's not intended to be a psycho you mean Jerry and Jay I've often those nothing say I have there's many times what I've been very jealous of their show format Blake we don't know and like the format of not having one is because that's that's convenient sometimes it's Joey all right uh so moving on to some some standard tech news my half might be slightly short my to absolutely but that's fine that's okay short so let's talk about the gtx 1180 stuff so this is an article on on TechRadar that's all of the stuff we're talking about is linked in the video's description by the way if you want the links this is the actual tech power up entry and tech power up runs gpu-z so tech power up does data harvesting in order to create publication there to to enhance and fill out their database of graphics cards and that kind of thing from my understanding didn't move the fan has moved it slowly rotated so it's not pointing at us any Mets a shit fan I was gonna point that it's not even my fan it's not I don't it in the hallway the other day and I just brought it just stole fan you stole a fan Wow but it's been in the hallway for like oh well okay you just lift it rotate the whole thing base and I know there's more than one way to rotate a fan the right way okay geez Chet says you should have fuse used to knock to a fan haha that's okay good job chat so yeah yeah the gtx 1180 I'd say the biggest like assuming this is legit because it seems like it probably is it seems like the biggest news here is that it's called gtx 1180 now there's a list a list of specifications on the technic from tech power up map that you can look at and you should also pay attention to this read a bit of text here that this graphics card is not released yet data on this page may change in the future they've included stuff like the codename of the GPU the GV one a GV 104 Volta architecture 12 animator process as well as some other stuff like clock speeds 14.5 megahertz base 1582 megahertz boost 16 gigs of DDR 6 memory 384 gigabytes per second bandwidth 3584 cuda cores which is which is a lot damn that's a lot more status that's about a thousand more than the 1080 1080 has which was had 2560 224 TM use vs. 160 on the original 1080 the 12 nanometer process as opposed to the 16 nanometer process of the 1080 and yeah where's where's the F people floating yeah floating-point performance fp6 for right no this is epi32 13 teraflops I'm sorry this is the render configuration this is gigaflops does the article different than what this text says that could be this is eleven thousand three hundred forty maybe this was updated the article here says here dude dude around thirteen teraflops yeah spec saying thirteen 911 this is eleven thousand three hundred forty so maybe that's part of the text down here this is a placeholder page and details will be added or updated as they become available I mean that's possibly even something that was changed or it might have been a typo from the article I the GTX eleven eighty is changing at a rapid rate yes it's constantly like nanotechnology it's modular it learns it grows it's like very impressive very impressive it's in the shimmer still still can't quite run crisis though okay anyway so peak FB thirty-two performance of either thirteen teraflops or what was listed there more like 11 ish teraflops still still impressive because the 1080 has 8.7 teraflops FB 32 performance and the Titan XP is twelve teraflops so this one has more it's added a little bit more or attempt potentially a little bit less floppy yeah other speculation the code name listed is GB 104 the V in that name would be GeForce Volta but the rumor about this series of grabbed the graphics card was that it was going to be using touring which is the Volta refinement we discussed a little bit about speculation on upcoming in video stuff at this point it's difficult to say so it might be that they're just sticking with the V because touring is a refinement of Volta or it might be that the entry is wrong or it might be just the videos trolling us trying to confuse us and or something like that reduce we're not really sure for sure but this does appear to be data derived from engineering sample GPU according to the article and speculation has been that this graphics card will be entering mass production soon it should be if they have a working example going on that's um feeding data to tech power up so Computex are you suspecting that they're gonna announce this at Computex that's possible we might see early versions or an announcement or something like that you never know but NVIDIA has also been known to avoid the big events like Computex in CES in order to make an announcements on their own or at a smaller event where they can have a little bit more of the spotlight but we'll see what they actually do previous chatter according to the article has held that a luncheon could come around games come in August but that still wouldn't necessarily mean that they won't wouldn't announce it or give more information around Computex so we'll have to see yeah coputex is a month away actually just under a month away now fucking babies very soon okay let's move on I don't have extensive notes for this story but I did want to bring it up because it came across my newsfeed earlier this week you do not have to bring it up I did I do oh did I say didn't I could Jude I want to bring it up okay he wastes yeah I spotted this earlier gamers Nexus also covered this this is just kind of a sad story of a dude who set up a company is based here in California and he made the decision to create 48,000 restore CDs and he purchased for less than five cents a piece basically he's an e-waste recyclers he has set up an e-waste recycling facility I believe it says something like a hundred employees and he was trying to figure out a good way to allow people to make use out of laptops and old computers that had a Windows license but due to whatever old myths or lack of accessories or whatever or maybe the operating system got corrupted or something like that aren't usable but all they really need is a restored disk mm-hmm now a lot of laptops will ship with the restore disk or where you can create what used to be right you can create it yourself sure but some end users don't know how to do that and so a lot of this stuff just ends up getting chucked into the e-waste bin and then it's it's not being made use of so in order to extend the lifespan of these devices this guy Eric decided to create a bunch of restore CDs it could generically be used with Windows laptops and Windows computers to restore windows onto that activate the license where he ran afoul of Microsoft was that he was selling these for I believe 25 cents apiece or something like that yes he was selling them for 25 cents a piece to to repair shops and that kind of thing but Microsoft caught wind of its originally Microsoft has said that so like what the the Microsoft standpoint and this is kind of frustrating because that what they're saying is that a repair shop person who got a hold of this secondhand merchandise and then refurbished or whatever refurbished it or whatever and then sold it to an end user they that person should have been responsible for somehow like paying Microsoft for a new license for that laptop or something like that when I or the seller sorry but the person who's reselling the used laptop right which is ridiculous because any like PC store owner or something like that knows how to do a restore on a laptop and you get it functional again and Microsoft is losing no money from like yeah repair facilities that are doing that because I've been because Eric was able to because Eric made so many of these restore CDs and was selling them albeit at a very low price to recoup his costume whatever they came down on him there was a lawsuit involved and he just recently lost his appeal on this and he's actually gonna have to go to prison for 15 months what which is which is just frustrating because it's stupid because when the guy's goal is to do a waste recycling which is which is a noble I feel like a noble enterprise there's tons and tons of e-waste it's often not disposed of properly and you know he's created a business out of this so yeah just wanted to is there anything in Microsoft's Terms of Service that explicitly says you cannot sell a restorer yeah I'm no I I don't want to I want to give the impression that Microsoft is somehow doing something that's outside the bounds of legality like they have the legal backing I'm sure that the in the Terms of Service and whatever like this is this is our this has gone through court already and he's and he's lost his appeal so it's not like Microsoft doesn't have the legal standing for this but Microsoft's saying originally they said that two hundred dollars per person per CD was what he that's had somehow robbed Microsoft of and was liable for eventually lowered that to twenty-five dollars but even that was still pretty low so twenty-five dollars times the number of CDs that he made equals the weight and that's well that's why he's looking at jail time is because of the total dollar amount that was involved there so Jesus seven hundred thousand dollars but they what they claimed he infringed upon Microsoft's products worth so that that sucks articles linked in the description if you guys want to read any more again I apologize I didn't have enough time prior to the show to get more detailed notes on this but um I Eric we we feel for you i i hope there's some further action that can be taken to prevent him from having to go to jail or something like that because it sounds like he's got a pretty good company going on beyond this whole thing with the restore cds you know go to jail for a while and have to have somebody else run your company then your company sucks after you get back that's four movies that's that but if what if this changes like the whole like prison ecosystem like after this guy goes to prison and like finally gets out like the whole like prison system is just flooded with restore cds like Windows Restore discs you know we just start seeing it like start seeing like in movies you know it changes pop culture we see like prisoners trading singer it's for Windows Restore disks as a danger snortin just Raylan lines of coke off of restore disks like this guy could could have easily changed the the jail world as we know it that's probably an influencer probably growing influence that's probably not gonna happen but you've put an idea into my mind of like a kind of a cheesy b-movie that's made with that premise right I'm doing it I think it could happen okay let's on that note let's round out the tech news article from a named tech about BD r5 hey yes are you talking to you're not familiar with ddr5 it is the fifth boiler alert successor to ddr4 Oh likes build up to that once ddr4 has run its course it will be replaced by ddr5 and it's cadence and micron have demoed a ddr4 ddr5 4400 imc and memory controller and memory we're expecting products based on this and 2019 possibly 2020 the hardware they're using is manufactured based on using TSM C's 7 nanometer process technology the idea here is that introducing the actual functional silicon and with the sorry creating the silicon based on the specification developed by Jack will allow SOC developers to begin their ddr5 memory subsystems subsystem development which should hopefully allow them to get to market in 2019 or 2020 so I don't think there was any like big speculation that like DDF are ddr5 wouldn't work or something like that but it's just a little bit more details available about it now this is ddr5 4400 speed and there's already ddr4 memory running at that speed they are expecting it to scale up to ddr5 6464 hundred mega transfers per second the demo again was running at 4400 mega transfers per second so 2200 megahertz actual speed and the cast latency 42 which might sound a little loose when it comes to timings does but remember the timings are a function of the of the frequency and the timing the number on the timing is just the number of cycles so if the frequency is higher then more cycles are happening per second yeah so it it it scales so right probably at the low ends like when we originally saw ddr4 introduced around 2133 speed and it was kind of like on par or even slower than some of the faster ddr3 it's gonna be about the same you're gonna have ddr5 that comes out that seems a little bit slower or just about as fast as the fastest ddr5 I'm sorry ddr4 but then ddr5 will will become faster after that now with ddr4 you know 3000 speed and above is much more common than your 21 33 or 2,400 but yeah other that's the voltage is going from one point two volts down to one point one volts although even with ddr4 it's supposed to be one point two volts but most if you're running fast reading it faster speed usually still run it at one point three five so maybe ddr5 you'll still be able to run at one point to probably man so 2019-20 that would be what on intel's platform maybe we'll see ddr5 be introduced with z5 70 or 470 ah I don't even want to speculate I mean the chipset names anything like that I really hope they figure out the chipset x67 naming stuff and just just choose something different or new x5 99 Z 4 9 yeah like so Intel Intel skips they go they go in 202 increments of 200 great they went X 99 2x - nah - 99 and before that they went like x58 to x79 whichever wasn't 200 but it was in doubles there they went 50 to 70 to 99 right to decade 79 to 99 and then they went to 99 they gotta be so now they would need to jump to 499 right so you have AMD with x3 99 and Intel with x4 99 and x2 99 and like a sandwich in between and that's just talking about one line of high-end desktops that's not even getting into the b3 50s and three sixties and x4 70s and z4 90s and z4 70s and I need to figure out something that said to just ignore can ignore all the chips tech names and go buy slike socket or color turquoise socket wouldn't that be nice just one word it's easy to remember each more completely different than the last indigo I just like why can't they go with it I get back to two digits like right or even have to be a number doesn't even have to be a number they can make it a word exactly the new Intel jur chipset rainbow I'll be cool go with the code names Jaguar they should have a contest where people submit ideas for the next chipset name that's not a freaking number that sounds exactly like their competitors sasquatch I want to salute yeah chipset Sasquatch I think and then they would like fuck us all over and be like and here introducing the new Sasquatch x69 tension number on to the end cuz any would do they that's what they would do any well came out with a sasquatch chipset that AMD would come out with a Bigfoot chipset they're just diving in the mythical creatures or something like that I try to do so much look forward to what the future building technology rounding out the ddr5 they are still going to keep using the ddr4 2288 pin so still the same number of pets but because next-gen ddr5 DIMMs will have two separate 32-bit io channels there will be a number of differences when it comes to overall module architecture the Atlantic article goes further into detail beyond that I'm not going to go into that detail right now do it because I want to give you guys some reason to click on the articles in the video's description cool also I only only had a chance to kind of briefly briefly look over it so ddr5 is expected to overtake ddr4 and become more prevalent by 2022 so availability to 2019 2020 so we're actually looking for platforms to launch that have ddr5 and but and and it'll become more mainstream in like four years cool yeah yeah yeah so that's pretty much all the prepared content that I have right now so let's check out if anyone has donated us money and asked us questions yes starting with Scott Dell bacardi six dollars and sixty six cents thank you Scott cheers Cheers very much teaching you can I empty glass unacceptable MB sixty seven thirteen dollars and thirty seven cents Paul I have to know did Jo the editor finally get his PI what time what PI to you Oh Jo Jo you ping him in PI no Jo came over and we did a bunch of work and I filmed it and it should I did a grouch work flog I posted earlier today ah and Jo wanted pie he did not get pie however he did get cookies so I do feel like chocolate chip cookies homemade I made them and he ate several of them yesterday so you make a damn good cookie I think doesn't doesn't your wife make cookies as well or it is just you yeah I mean they're almost as good as mine but yeah yeah you know your cookies are very good I was getting excited during Christmas cuz Paul owed his wife like to make cookies oh yeah I'm a year then we make spritz cookie and then yeah we just I just scarf them down even come and go over on delicious but yes so Jo has 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I'm sure there'll be a punishment involved there indeed bazinga X ten dollar donation to get safety glasses next time you do woodwork Kyle will get the same on his half for no safety glasses while cutting the grill shame on YouTube safety glass so I have glasses grill and these are these from what I've heard I mean obviously they're not the same as safety glasses certain things I would I would put safety glasses over as well but glasses do provide a base level of eye protection minor even better than yours because they're bigger yes guys even more even more protective full covered but yeah I'm visiting X I will I will I I do I do try to do do best practices when I'm doing stuff safety sir filming it and showing people and everything so I'll try to do my best anymore that I do have some everyone got really mad at me for not wearing goggles or protective gear when I was Dremel encase mod that's what he said hello will get the same on his half for no safety glasses without a moral that's what he said I read it I didn't realize that listening to word I didn't know what Grill he was talking about probably talking about thought you're talking about your teeth I was thinking a barbecue grill I was like I haven't cut any barbecues and I won't barbecue lose Oden with five pounds any downside using my laptop with a 1050 to run a 1440p monitor also Paul what happened to Hiro and being locked in the garage all right I can tell that real quick no ends the oven there's no downside to the 10:50 it should be able to run a 1440p monitor no problem if you're gaming on that at 1440 the 1050 will struggle so you know you can change the output from the monitor to the red to the from the laptop to the monitor and lower it to 1080 and just scale it up and still play just fine so I'm get 1050 is a 1080p card at best yeah if you want that if you're in India for the resolution and having more space to work with with like 2d stuff then then yes if you want a game at 1440 you're only gonna be able to play really lightweight games with a 1050 you'll you'll you'll need more horsepower than that sorry for here locked in the garage so my garage is on a hinge and usually when we leave it's closed my wife and I went out to see a movie and stuff and the garage door was not closed all the way and this is a lesson that we learned say garage like person door like the big ass door like the garage door from the house into the garage standard little door so oh right so after my wife and I left here went wandering around pushed his way out into the garage and the door closed behind him and then he got stuck out there and here we've known since we got him we got him from from from a shelter up here and we've known he has separation anxiety he's fine when we leave them at home with him and nori because they can kind of keep each other company but being separated from her out in the garage and the door closed behind him freaky freaked out so he scratched inside of the door and he tried to get out the back door too and we felt horrible when we got home and it's one of those lessons that you learn it's like all right it's when another thing we got to check that door every time make sure that door is all the way closed and he did he like wreck anything as far as like training um I mean he damaged the door back into the house and he tore a hole in the drywall going out going at the back oh wow beyond that there wasn't any oh he he chewed the the door knob handles as well oh wow dents in the door knob handles I mean that dog can seriously do some damage if he wants so when we when we got him from the shelter we he had already been returned twice by two other families that had tried to adopt him because of separation stuff like they left for the day and they you know had tried to leave him in the backyard or something and he Tora I don't know what happened but it's probably tore through a wall or something to try to get back he's a he's a big cuddly teddy teddy bear but he really likes his humans and being next to them all the time okay yeah teddy tiger five dollar donation what's a good low-profile HTTP case for rise into AP you know gaming but need to transcode from the network on a big-screen TV also and motherboard suggestion Kyle oh yeah in win show pen there we go is is a really good option the fractal design no 202 something that I've used in the past that works well yeah those would be my two other options does look too I like that little intimate in case it did that build in what is nice and with a low-profile cooler you wouldn't need to modern right correct so very low profile like 48 millimeters okay so you need a little profile cool cooler to go along with it or you can bust the Dremel out and do the do like Hal did but either way all right $0.50 33 $10 donation hey love your content I have a question for with you what music do you use for your b-roll and montages in your videos where can I find said music we are both I'm gonna use rest 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stuff yet again to 2019 so yeah it's it's really not looking that good I I'm pretty surprised at how long it's taken them to come around to releasing products based on that or at least to release products at scale on that so it's a good question if it really does hold them up that long then we could look we could be looking at a pretty significant sea change in the market because AMD's been having a lot of success recently and everything but Intel also has a long history a lot of money and they had theoretically they have the resources to get it done we're just gonna have to kind of wait and see if they're able to but yeah it would be interesting to see Intel suddenly in a position of trying to catch up to AMD and maybe even Apple but was a lot to see Stephen Hill $20 Thank You Stephen he said beer money and we will use that for beer or other other things I guess probably mostly beer laboum the whale $5 you can always buy the Noctua industrial or chrome exhibition if the poo isn't for you just a buck or two more late to the talk about Noctua so that is the case I know what like there in ff12 and everything so I'm not but I'm not sure if this newest fan their current their launching with an industrial or chrome axon I hope they do but maybe we can confirm that sometime soon Jabil $5 jagerbomb for you and two for me I don't have any Jager yeah it's been a while since I did a Jager Bomb maybe we'll do a Jager Bomb on the next episode sure with your $5 oh yeah there we go well if we do it when we're broadcasting from my house I'll be more okay with that wants to do it early on the show yeah since I'll be driving Jager Bomb is not for the faint of heart killer Jason Christoph $9.99 $9.99 Paul during a random moment today I wonder if you ever said there goes my hero and someone's response was watch MSE goes I don't think we've actually need our thoughts I don't think we've actually made the connection between the Foo Fighters song and and our dog but we should have by this point or what about see what about the Ricky Martin song what I can be your hero baby no you never really seem like heroes style for some reason so much he's more of a foo-foo fan but I mean a little possibly or Mariah Carey maybe he's more you know he's definitely Mariah Carey and a hero lies in you careful we're gonna get flagged for content and my singing is just that since that on point she's in chat holy shit that's good son hey wait um I will try to work that into everyday conversation my wife loves puns and so maybe I can pull that off somehow Andrew Watley five dollars do you guys got any used computers for sale one trash another ones treasure still dreaming a game on the PC Andrew we usually it's very challenging for us to sell PC parts yes put it that way so we try to find other useful uses for them and it's a constant challenge because you do giveaway people get mad at you because you're giving away stuff and if you do and even if you sell something like yeah you get money in return like but if you sell it to people that you kind of know or acquaintances then I feel like it kind of sets a precedent of like oh I that guy sells stuff for cheap oh yeah just tell him or like tell you know go to him all the time for anything I need electronic wise and tell all my friends like I've dealt with that in the past really yeah I'll be nice and sell this one thing because I don't really need it ensure it's a win-win but then like sometimes word gets out and like oh shit all these people are asking me for shit now and selling stuff even if it's like low key Oh to the table like that is it takes time and you know it's it's time time that we usually don't have so continue hoarding everything say if you're looking for bargains on computer parts I mean the used market is fun if slightly dangerous and that's what makes it fun that have any danger in there Micro Center live on the edge by a CPU at Micro Center don't get stabbed kids all right last donation Gerald with 20 bucks Thank You gerald I need help while fixing a buddy's PC and upgrading him to an SSD during Windows 10 reinstallation it went into a boot cycle won't allow me into the BIOS PSU is fine CPU or motherboard bricked your thoughts on what it could be that is an interesting question so two solutions for you because basically you need to you need to get back into the BIOS like great you need to go in there make sure everything's set up properly make sure it's trying to go to the right boot device you want to make sure that you're loading your Windows 10 installation USB and UEFI mode and then using that to install into the SSD one thing I would do is try unplug every drive that's not the drive that you're installing Windows 10 - that's a good failsafe and then to get into the BIOS you're gonna have two options if you're not booting into Windows alright if you are booting into Windows there's a window shutdown method you can do advanced shutdown and you can tell it to reboot into the end of the end of the BIOS and there's more specific terms for that that I don't remember what they are but event shutdown advanced its advanced shut down our event startup in Windows 10 and you can do that if you're not booting into Windows 10 at all then you basically you should do a clear CMOS so yeah either the button or the jumper on your motherboard and yeah I mean if it's if it's if it first comes the worst remove the battery remove the CPU and do clear CMOS but you should be able to just press a button or put the jump around on the board and clear CMOS and that should be get you back into the bus all those things that Paul just suggested do that when the systems off yeah don't do it when the systems are the system's off then you're really screwed that's important Steve do that once and the system was never the same all right we have one final donation that just came in from post-apocalyptic Peter five dollar donation thank you post-apocalyptic Peter loved the content Paul you too man looking forward to Paul's solar Hardware thank you Peter these hello wall it's always going in on Friday that's Powerball in there I'm gonna do one more video covering the installation and then it's probably not gonna be for another month and a half-ish after that that I can come back and like be like right now I'm using it because there's a anywhere from like one to six weeks I'm gonna need to wait for the approval process to happen for me to actually turn the whole system on right now I can't use any of that stuff but but I do have a new roof now which is that's kind of cool all right uh-oh we get shoutouts we got Johnson shoutouts Johnson's we're almost at the one hour point Johnson's on that at the one hour point so that's cool yeah I just have I have three Johnson's Alex B from Wisconsin got the zero insertion force mug which is a bit it's a very good mug 15 ounce mug holds lots of lots of liquid thank you and Johnson for you John E from Arizona gets a Johnson got the key cap and the sword fight gaming mouse pad set so Johnson from both of us because the gaming mouse pad is awesome hara mirch joshua h gets a Johnson for picking up a dark gray Heather t-shirt make beware of bottlenecks shirt nice Thank You Josh with my least favorites this is John John from Michigan thumbscrew men with oxblood and extra-large the oxblood shirt one of my newest shirts it's it's the color of ox blood and it has the thumbscrew logo on it Johnson for you John no LOC says were harmed in the making yes it's not actual not real ox blood Richard G from Texas Houston Texas picked up an evolution Heather dark grey t-shirt a BIOS flash or maroon t-shirt and a CPU cooler navy blue t-shirt nice why thank you very much nice assortment there yep you are well equipped with your wardrobe now any more um couple more here Carlos a from Phoenix Arizona got a bit wet gaming desk Matt ooh I believe that's one of the the more modest-sized ones and then they words in a circle pint glass you got you got some of these the 20 ounce ones the large ones that can fit a beer and a half or so and a fidget spinner congratulations you are a proud bit with Phil's what in the field still in stock still in stock to left you just a couple left any day they'll sell out now and then finally we have one for John that might be a double John John John bit with words to the circle pint glass got more glasses more glasses glass on glass and a CPU cooler and flash bios full color 15 outs black ceramic mug mug set sorry you got to you got to mugs cool awesome thank you guys beautiful Thanks all right guys that wraps it up for my half of the show episode 150 thank you guys for for joining us I don't 50 episodes it's crazy holy moly ride the road to 200 that's why we that's why we made this this episode extra special that's exactly right yeah anyway if you want to check out the second half if you're watching on twitch just stay where you are we will continue to stream so if you're watching on YouTube 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