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indicate that and by the lower thirds otherwise people get confused starting off with Nvidia and AMD graphics cards prices continuing to drop this is good news this is absolutely fantastic news I am I'm excited about this because again there's been a lot of like good news and good stuff to talk about in the tech world over the past year too especially with AMD kind of coming back with Rison and they're just being a little bit more choice more options more come more competitiveness I would say you know in the desktop space especially if you're building your own computer but it's been stymied so much some somewhat by high graphics card prices and time memory prices my memory is still pretty expensive but it's come down somewhat but graphics cards the story is is a little bit better so there are currently several things affecting the graphics card pricing rumors of next-gen and video graphics Kurt's rumors of next-gen AMD graphics cards although whether or not they re badges of Polaris variants we're still not sure about that also cryptocurrency mining which has been a great contributor to high graphics card prices demand for that use case has somewhat dwindled again for various reasons but all that has caused prices to drop pretty significantly back in March timeframe they dropped by about 25 percent across the board but that was really dropping them from like ridiculously overpriced like you know just somebody with thousand-dollar 1080 T eyes and $400 the RX 5 80s right to like just a little overpriced and it's like oh I can buy a graphics card for like 20 or 40 bucks over what it originally listed forward right two years ago when it launched all not ideal felt better but this lighthouse it's still not ideal this is a furtherance of that and the article from WCC F Tech that were referencing here specifically talks about the European market but that does seem to be affecting US prices - yeah according to the article this is a trend that's likely likely to continue well into the end of the summer and the back-to-school season as NVIDIA prepares to introduce its new family of gaming GeForce graphics cards and talk of AMD doing the same before the year's end on the Radeon site so here's a quick rundown of the prices at the end of May again there was a drop in March there was a month or two or so of kind of stagnation at those prices and then from the end of May up until now which is a month and a half two months sure prices have dropped by as much as 18% some somewhere in the eight to fifteen percent range for other cards listed here 1070 1080 RX Vega 56 and 64 unit this is the first time I like this is legitimately the first time I've like been like maybe a Vega 56 might be something I can sell people maybe you could buy like it's never that's never been the case yeah I have never told anyone by Maya Vega at 56 or Vega 64 and put it in their system right like it's a perfectly adequate card but not for 600 bucks exactly for a vague if 1070 was much more reasonably priced I'll say oh yeah so that's kind of cool and just just to reality check it right now I thought we would quickly jump over its new egg and look at their video cards and video devices and desktop graphics cards and just do what we've done on the show before a time or two which is kind of give a real-time check of pricing let's start with the RX 580 ever popular we only want to look at new egg prices and I want to say eight gigs yeah eight gig card all right lowest price please yes all right 260 and that's out of stock so that's not super exciting this is a little race for a little bit more yeah maybe people got too excited obviously let's try the the Radeon I'm sorry the Nvidia set GTX 1078 gig 400 it's still out of stock this is man this is the m8 is this the Amazon alright so the cheapest is for $17.99 for this little gigabyte mini one there's a core by nine for nine 49th there although the main details oh you can't have it all right sorry yeah I got ya I said those view details ones where right so you can get a ZOTAC 1070 Mini for 400 at to Kirk alright and that's and that's not even like there mineus tough car it's like it still has a dual fan design it's a tough so yeah so that's that's about reasonable so good to hear and it's been so long since I've cheated 1070 for 399 yeah it's been months I mean considering a few years ago remember our big complaints in the first two three months after launch was that they were like alright 50 bucks over and over was it to 79 to 80 I'm sorry 379 to 389 yeah they originally announced MSRP for the 1070 that it never sold for right it's never been they've never been in this RP MSRP is a is a myth it's a mythical creature all right trying to get it's a rare Pokemon will never catch move it along though netflix investors are apparently a little bit worried about Netflix because it's it's grown to this the maximum size apparently this is Netflix CEO Reed Hastings looking very skeptical extremely skeptical so Netflix missed its subscriber growth targets by about a million subscribers in the three months ending in June otherwise known as q2 April May June there is concern from investors that this might be due to a saturation limit for the streaming platform wait simply put Netflix has 130 million subscribers and maybe that's the most it's ever gonna get or just that that's the saturation point where there are as many people subscribing to Netflix as can reasonably do so based on their their income and spending capacity and that kind of thing right based on this news this unfortunate news about the missing their growth targets their stock price fell fourteen percent in case you're wondering specifically what the growth target is they projected 6.2 million more subscribers in this three-month period and they only only got 5.2 million and now investors are freaking boldly at 5.2 million subscribers and three months high Wow I mean I would be very disappointed with that if our YouTube channel yes our investors are very disappointed in us obviously in the reflux at different stan has different standards and when you're looking at the corporate world's constant growth is is often importance ends I'm not gonna negate the you know how that actually affects a business especially something that something like something like Netflix but it still seems like they got lots of subscribers in there still very successful so yeah I don't know maybe this maybe the stock goes overinflated they've got some competition coming their way though yes with each of you stepping up their Guinea Disney Disney's gonna be launching their own streaming service Apple and Disney both land in the future right those are anticipated to be huge competitors for streaming services that are already existing such as Netflix right HBO has a very popular streaming platform and they have proven that you can take a relatively small number of shows that are with the focus on quality and it can draw in subscribers with that model oh yeah I mean I think of Game of Thrones yes Game of Thrones when people are subscribed to HBO just for that show mostly also West world what's world oh yeah I forgot West bolds HBO - it's pretty I'll say - shows but still yeah still waiting on the alt shift X video for the final two episodes of Westeros but I get distracted once again the landscape is increasingly looking more like an unbundled version of the old cable model when you look at how people pay for their entertainment right dozens of channels from Netflix to CBS to Showtime each with their own monthly fee yeah this is actually a model that I'm personally okay with because one of the things that if you look at the cable subscription subscription model of the past is like oh you're gonna get this package for a hundred and twenty bucks a month one hundred and sixty bucks or month or something and you're gonna get two thousand five hundred channels and they're all bundled in with this and this and this but it's like I'd rather pay for what I know I'm gonna watch so exactly that's why an ad hoc direct subscription to HBO for HBO go has made sense for a lot of people because exactly I know I'm gonna watch those shows I can directly see the money I spend on that being brought back to me by the value I get from from watching that and it's worth then it's worth the money yeah so this is why the next story we're going to talk about in a second about net neutrality sort of feeds back into this which is that like I'm perfectly happy paying a base fee for a solid broadband internet connection which in my humble opinion should be around forty bucks a month forty fifty bucks a months if it's not about to be bundled with anything yeah and then on top of that you might be spending X dollars amount of months for a Netflix whose Netflix subscription or whatever other subscription you might be putting on top of that and then you get a few those in there and then you've kind of reached your saturation point for how much content you can actually watch right and bear in mind that a standard internet connection will also get you a connection to YouTube as well as a bunch of other streaming services that you don't have to pay a monthly monthly fee for it and you're probably doing okay when it comes to having stuff to point your eyeballs to distract you from your constant yeah constant hellish existence that you actually lived through in fact the deaths cut off to us all gently very gently six and that the cold hands cold and icy hands obey to a death doom grasping for us every moment of the day it's a clue to clutch at us and and and draw us down into another realm of pain and suffering sorrow forever hatred yeah but that's why we subscribe to Netflix that's exactly what and should be their model marketing message Netflix will spend as much as 8 billion dollars producing and acquiring TV shows and movies this year including disenchantment from The Simpsons and Futurama Futurama creator Matt Groening as well as new seasons of house of cards and making a murder house of cards very popular show even despite Kevin Spacey's alleged sexual harassment claims is this little alleged I mean I mean I was being conservative yes but who the like what now if there's been any jury trials yet so you're still supposed to say that sure anyway let's move on sure I don't I don't I don't really have any final summation to give to that story so let's quickly talk about net neutrality yeah we've we've we've discussed this on the show simply because we deal with technology we deal with the Internet and we personally feel that net neutrality is a good thing and that if you pay for a connection to the Internet that your internet service provider should have no place in telling you or telling you what services or websites you can connect to or not connect to or charging you more for this or less for that or throttling certain connections to certain points in the internet right now the FCC right now has really gone the other way according to stuff that we were kind of excited back about back in 2005 so people hate as you pi pretty universally in my experience but that doesn't mean that there is no way to fight back so amongst the ways to fight back we have had a lot of states introducing their own net neutrality laws but there's also been some action on the federal level so there is a bill intended to save net neutrality specifically that has already gone through the Senate and now actually has its first Republican vote in the US House yes now we try not to get into a bunch of like politics and Republicans versus Democrats and the contentiousness of us u.s. politics especially right now on the show all we try to say here is that as we've stated we have a stance on net neutrality for whatever warrant for whatever reason it seems to be the Republican side of it that's like really against that so boggles the mind I hate to say the like we're against the Republicans or we're against the Republican stance on this we're not getting into further politics beyond that but it is heartening that US Rep Mike Kaufman from Colorado announced today that was today his support for this bill there are currently having 76 Democrats and one Republican on board they need 41 more votes in order to get this to have any legs in the house there what the reps are actually signing is a discharge petition that would force the house to vote on a congressional review act resolution the resolution would reverse the FCC's repeal of the net neutrality rules that went into effect a month or two ago right Senate approved the CR a resolution back in May with votes from all members as a Democratic caucus and three Republican senators so three Republican senators voted Democrats in order to get that through the Senate now it's up to the house to move things forward and again there's a long way to go but it is at least some beam of light some some silver lining on the clap there is at least one Republican congressman who's been who's been convinced to sign on with this hopefully there will be more because the petition means 218 signatures total and right now a Republicans hold a 236 293 majority in the house I really hope that the one Republican who joined on board is like a likable Republican among his colleagues and that some of them will come to their senses inside with him because sometimes it's all it takes sometimes like everyone's thinking the same thing but they're not actually gonna make him move until one person does and they're like oh he actually stepped up to the plate and was brave enough to take a stance on this and then they feel a bit more confident in doing the same because somebody's already led trailed that path so I would hope in my internet loving nature that more Republicans join doing the net neutrality side when it come because of this point like some switch so when it comes down to for me if you're trying to have this net neutrality discussion with somebody and it comes down to a sort of a partisan political discussion in my minds or at least in Mike my concept of a conservative Republican stance on this particular issue would be a pro-business stance right and in my mind one of the great amazing things that the Internet has done has allowed many businesses especially small businesses to grow and thrive thanks to the access I mean Kyle and I both have small businesses based on the internet thanks to the access that's pretty loud through the internet large companies having the ability to shut off certain parts of the internet so that smaller businesses that are involved with that part of the internet you suddenly might have to pay extra money for something is not a good thing right so in my mind if you're pro-business you should be Pro Internet and you should be pro net neutrality because that allows a level playing field for anyone no matter how small their businesses or how large their businesses to equally access anyone who is on the Internet and and that that has always made sense to me that's been sort of that the fundamental discussion that I've had was with a few people right when it comes to like net neutrality especially people who say like oh this is all about regulation regulation and government regulation and government regulations are bad and everything it's like the internet is regulated it has been regulated it's always been regulated by the government since it's since it from DARPA net onwards it's going to be regulated in some way and the discussion is how and net neutrality to us is the obvious answer but anyway but let's move on from yes because dwelling on it too long gets people upset alright as Rock has been updating or has released updates for their ex 399 Tai Chi motherboard to support future thread Ripper CPUs nice so this is not a new X 399 Tai Chi motherboard this is their existing X 399 Tai Chi motherboard which launched back when X 399 launched it's a good little motherboard I built with this motherboard and my entry-level thread Ripper build because it's one of the cheapest x 399 boards again by right and it still has pretty much all the features that you need wants when it comes to connectivity and everything so the upshot to this article is really that thread Ripper processors are going to be backwards compatible with existing x-ray an Indian and motherboards that seems to be the case sure with a BIOS update you will have support for the 24 core 29 50 X which should be coming out or the 32 core 29 90 X the question that's raised in this article and I'm sure will be raised by other people is going to be when it comes to what frequencies those processors ship at and then in particular when it comes to overclocking those processors because we have to assume that AMD's can going to continue to make them unlocked for overclocking just as they've done with pretty much all of their mainstream and high-end desktop processors right like all of them which is cool that's good we approve with that yeah but existing x3 99 motherboards have power delivery that's made for a 16 core processor the additional power needs of a 24 or 30 Corp 24 or 32 core processor especially if our clocked might be more than what these were designed for when they were only thinking up to 16 cores sure that said it does seem like there will be backwards compatibility asrock has released this 3.0 bios for their ex 399 Taichi motherboard which is little delivers the AMD summit P I - SP 3 r2 1.1 0.0 I think this is Anna jisuk owed to the platform to support Andi upcoming processors and we know that that is starter for - because that's what AMD has promised to launch in August to update their BIOS as rock as released both there you knew you knew 3.0 UEFI so no UEFI design and they version 2.3 bridge bios which means that the X 399 tied cheap requires two separate BIOS updates to become ready ready for threader for two therefore threader per second generation products so you know not a huge deal or anything but kind of interesting that they actually have to do an update from an existing bios to a bridge bios and then an update from that bios to the actual bios in order to get it ready for this two updates for the new processors and I'm sure there'll be lots of tests on existing x3 99 motherboards but also there's going to be new updated XP 9 399 motherboards coming out wind threader for two launches next month so we'll hopefully have some coverage of all that yeah that's that's gonna be an interesting video to see if 2nd gen throw tipper performs the same on the newer x3 9 boards that came after its launch as opposed to the existing x3 and boards like the Taichi here because I think it all depends on what angle the AMD engineers are coming at with 2nd gen threaded Berg if you know because they could easily say like ok yeah we've got a 32 32 core processor on our hands that were going to be launching they might think you know I would hope that they would take into consideration that their existing x3 99 users that might be dropping this newer gen CPU into their existing boards and thinking how do we optimize the power delivery in such a way or the efficiency of this chip so that X existing x3 99 users have an indistinguishable experience from the newer x3 99 board owners or they could just be like ork or they could go the other route where you know nope you know we want to have a little bit of headroom we want to have a little bit of benefit performance-wise and power delivery wise with a newer x3 my nine boards to promote these newer boards here they'll work just fine on the older x3 nine boards but that could be something that's further distinguishes the newer and the older x3 ninety nine boards from each other so it really just depends on the sort of angle of indirection that the and the engineers are coming from I think whether when they're designing this second gender per family I think for me it'll just be a matter of how much the higher core count processors are potentially held back by the first generation motherboards if they are at all and if I mean I imagine that will be some especially if you're taking overclocking into account sure but yeah this is a reasonable time I mean several people have suggested this but I've never said it directly since I've been working on this riptide build yes I have every intention of upgrading riptide to the 32 core 2990 X when it becomes available Kyle's counts good over there yeah it's looking good I'm like ready to finish the loop right now I would have done it earlier today but I ran at a time or something soft tubing or hard crystalline soft okay yeah yeah I've got I've got one I've got one tube installed in there so far yeah why did you decide to go soft just curious because I want it to be functional and actually one of the things I'm kind of looking forward to is if threader for two comes out and there's new motherboards like I'm making no assumptions here but if my sous makes a new Zenith like a second generation second generation Zenith and they provided me with that and then AMD provides me with the 2990 X I am really excited to swap those in because I will be able to do it so easily with my soft tubing and mic list quick disconnects as opposed to having to disassemble an entire loop and drain stuff like I wouldn't have to drain anything I can quick disconnect stuff to take the block off and everything but yet intending to hopefully upgrade to the 32 core not sure if the motherboard upgrade will be required or not but if it is on go for that and then I will probably switch to a monoblock as well because right now the CPU block I have is not ideal why is it ideal because it wasn't designed for threader but it's one of those ones that would like like the ACE tech coolers that were designed for Intel and mainstream CPUs that you could put an adapter on and mount to a threader per processor and would cool it ok but you discover that when you actually switch up the block design to something that's specifically that's larger to actually go over all the dyes and everything that suddenly that you actually get much better cooling so hmm yeah that's my plan okay do you mind if I treat a picture of it right now oh yeah go for it I've already done that okay I mean as long as there's no horrible no there's nothing incriminating on there hey all right no incriminate I just tweeted a picture of the progress they're not like palace picture do it alright one last news story here Samsung has revealed the world's first LP ddr5 class 10 nanometers ear an LP does that mean low profile actually means low power that will power the other L power low power ddr5 other LP from across the yard it's a little individual chips as you can see right there so they've added this 8 gigabits lpddr4 DRAM to their product lineup so each of these chips is basically one gigabyte the mood of memory which expands that lineup and also improves from the older generation lpddr4 to LP ddr5 so kind of like the upgrade from ddr3 to DDR for sure upgrading to lpddr4 upgrading from lpddr4 to LP gddr5 mmm provides higher data rates lower levels of power consumption as you might expect which means they're great for mobile devices also like I have no idea I don't have speculate much I'm like production or whatever but if they're suddenly able to pump this out and it's great for mobile devices then yeah I have no idea but maybe like in my head I think maybe that will lessen the demand for the memory that's been conflicting and causing like really high memory prices on the on the CB kinda the D Ramsay you know yeah Graham said sure yeah I don't know but it should but the thought you know that's not outside the realm of possibility true but this move from LP but I don't want to say that like you could take something that's designed for lpddr4 and take one of these and just drop it and that's probably not the case sure these new a gigabit chips offer data rates up to 6400 megabits per second that's significantly faster than layer highest-end lpddr4 X memory which does 4266 megabytes a second that's it absent nice jump 1200 to 6400 Wow it's like another that's a 33% ish jump yeah to start they're gonna ship memory with speeds of 6,400 megabits per second and 55 mega 5,500 megabits per second operating at one point one volts and one point oh five volts and then they expect this memory to power future ai and 5g mobile applications as well as of course probably going to be a lot of smart lose yep that's my proposed baby cool so yeah a new memory let's let's let's let's move into our next segment Oh what are we gonna we're gonna do some certified so weird fight yay I feel like we have a new the sword fight in my last exert fight it's been a while all right I'm Kyle so half of the show we already started discussing this and so we're going to assume that you have watched that and have some basis on this but so quickly recap virtual link is a new USBC based cable with a new protocol virtual link which gives a little bit more bandwidth than your thunderbolt connection in order to provide a single cable for both the USB as well as the video connection from a VR headsets so a standardized connection for VR headsets and one that has been embraced by quite a few companies including Nvidia and AMD and Microsoft's an oculus HTC so like all the big players in VR right now so instead of having something like this with the power and a USB and an HDMI the cable set for a cookie but you need to vibe to connect with right now cumbersome you will simply have a single USB type-c connector okay you scroll to a very complicated looking graph this is an end this isn't an end tech article which means they get into a bit more of the the details of it short but there's gonna be a single type-c connector yes so one and type two here are the different modes it's basically like a display port connection giving you three thirty two point four gigabits per second right just for video bandwidth right plus an additional ten for USB three sure and high-speed Lane parison powers included in that connector as well that's important so you can carry cuz I'll be able to power like a headset or something like that right okay so what are we arguing today if this is gonna be better for VRS a question like we did a we did a decent amount of VR stuff a couple years back we got our oculus rifts and our HTC fives yep didn't really grab on like you know there's not a lot of people still building like here's a VR build or whatever right great right like it's it's can not reach a people don't use it or anything but it's nice and it's not something that seems to have caught on big-time so here's the question is this gonna change that is virtual link and the fact that this hardware solution is not going to be more streamlined with a single cable will that affect the adoption of VR are we gonna see more VR headsets sold are we going to see more people into VR in general because of this as we are going to take off basically in the way that people were maybe expecting a couple years back with the initial launch of those headsets now that this new standard has been adopted what do you think okay I'm gonna go the easy route and give you the burden of arguing devil's advocate I'm gonna say that no VR had its chance is a dead French technology which is only semi true of what I believe I don't think that this standardization this new spec will be the thing that convinces people that finally makes VR go mainstream I think it's more than that I think it's the the amount of horsepower and processing power that's required to drive full and rich VR experiences that's the bigger wall between the mainstream consumer and VR you need you need a pretty decently either mid-range to high-end gaming PC to run these excellent VR experiences smoothly and I don't think that you know when we've discussed this in the past where like you know VR has not really taken off like a lot of people speculated we never once brought up the cable situation well it's you know because you got USB and HDMI and power that you all got to plug in simultaneously but it was never brought up it was always the biggest barrier to entry for VR was always the price that came with the headset itself with the whole ecosystem and the PC that was required to drive it so I think that this is a good step forward I think that standardization for this type of thing is a good thing overall and it will prove beneficial in the long run but I don't think it's gonna get us many steps closer to wide widespread adoption of VR I think optimization needs to happen and and it's you know it's yeah optimization needs to happen you know people need to be able to run this on their old pre-built Dell systems in order for it to be mainstream because that's the mainstream computing system that most people have right now and granted I'll give HCC and oculus a bone because they have dropped the prices of their headsets pretty significantly since their first launch but you still need the hardware to drive them so so I remove your move you mentioned that and I think Paul's looking up facts since he's cheating cheating for face off his son nice our fight I saw an ad today for oculus rift plus touch controllers for like 250 bucks or something ridiculous like that it looks like it's still four hundred but hey obviously I was wrong he said he said no but yes actually yes once virtual link becomes standardized we will see a renaissance in the VRS space in fact you know count mentions a good point he brings up a good point when it comes to the the barrier to entry to VR and needing a high-end PC but really that's been essentially eliminated by the reduced prices of graphics cards recently we discussed earlier in the show eight two percent reduction the price graphics are just recently so obviously everyone now has a really powerful gaming PC with a high-end graphics card like gtx 1066 gig or an RX 588 gig or above which is perfectly capable of playing VR so that's that's not an issue not really a problem anyone really what it comes down to is the immersion and people's level of the amount of joy or value that they get out of the VR experience and often that was detracted from or people would often complain about being pulled out of the VR experience because they're suddenly tripping over a cord or something like that because they've got this book these set up cords coming off of their headset that's to go over and we can connect into the PC this will not be the case anymore we have a simple slim USB type-c cable can easily be routed up over the head I mean that's not gonna be tugging on you all the time or anything like that so this is going to be the catalyst I think that really spurs a new era of VR adoption we're gonna see a lot more people playing VR games we're going to see developers developing VR games do well it's gonna be it's going to be better and more awesome than anyone could ever have imagined before and anyone who says otherwise hates America that's compelling compelling telling arguments before thank you before we see how much our arguments have swayed your opinion we're gonna quickly take a look at the next question okay Whiteley less serious so we can argue that more quickly hopefully all right summer question though summer question this has come up for me recently because I've been playing overwatch a decent amount with my wife but if it is summer and it is hot and you're playing a PC and you're gaming in a room and it gets hot sometimes you have two choices maybe based on the cost of electricity or maybe simply based on like the fact that you don't want a trip a breaker or something like that you can either keep the a/c on and the computer off or vice versa but PC gaming and AC at the same time maybe that's not a maybe that's not a legitimate option for you so wait why wouldn't that be a legitimate option just don't don't don't ask the question why you're not asking why that's why we're just saying okay in this hypothetical situation if you had to choose gaming without air conditioning in the summer or air conditioning but no gaming in the summer what would you choose why not both everyone get everyone feel free to go ahead I went first last time vote on that first we got to get the results from the first best sure obviously VR let's see what you get said about this one everyone has tried VR porn but our votes are actually very close sprinkling water very close but yes Wow it looks like I win Kyle Wow people would totally be into VR if there was just one annoying to the cable instead of thing see it's the way you phrased it though it's phrasing yes is because I haven't seen ooh which one you were gonna choose given that you had free range this sounds like this presidential election of the what was Russia's involvement in this straw poll answer I win and everyone is waiting to the airport but let's get back to the summer question all right gaming with eight gaming but no IC or AC with no game AC but no gaming oh God what about can you have a fan fan blowing on you can use our everyone I didn't I didn't get that far all right you argue first that's a good question that this is the first question it's the only questions I'm gonna go I'm gonna go based on what we've actually been doing and I'm gonna say you know what gaming with no AC because you know you don't really believe that hear me out here you down you obviously our viewers you know you know they're hard workers they probably got the day job day jobs they're not gaming during the day you know you're you gotta get your work done during the day got it work before you get your play in so in the evening Sun Goes Down sure it's summer sure it's still hot but when the Sun Goes Down you gotta turn the AC off you can open up your windows turn on your fans get some air flow to the house and then you can still game sure it's a little warm but you know you gotta look past that and you got to remember that when when you're warm it increases your reaction time your your deductive skills critical critical reasoning capabilities as well as as well as well as technical you know it's it's pretty warm in here right now and Paul is having a hard time finishing his - no no just just let that sink in all these things help you let me help you when you're feeling warm you know your ma respond here we're here looser right here loosen so you're playing you're your first-person-shooter whatever you're gonna get get more head shots we're gonna be an overall better performer it's like why people go into a sauna you know people go into a sauna again if Rousseau gave me a ninja you know like all the big all the big one needs to be thing they're office so there ya know all right I'm gonna tell you why you're wrong Paul clearly you're gonna have to put PC gaming on hold just temporarily you don't have to give it up for life but you know what when it's when it's really hot inside it's sometimes not worth it because PC gaming is only fun when it's fun and you can't enjoy something when you're miserable and I know at least for me like I'm a sweaty person in general and when things are hot I can't enjoy anything I'm irritable I need there to be a cool environment in order for me to enjoy anything in life and especially if I'm gonna go hard if I'm gonna go hard and I'm really gonna PC game you have to consider that the system your gaming on is gonna generate additional heat that's gonna be brought into your room unless you have some sort of balls-to-the-wall system that exhausts the hot air from your system outside which 99.9% of us don't have so that's gonna increase ambient temperatures even further and the last thing you want is like sweat literally dripping off of your eyebrows into your eyes like the saltiness just like having to wipe it out like your KD ratio is going to plummet in those types of conditions that's why anytime you go to like an eSports event or like a LAN tournament or something like that they have pretty decent cooling because they understand this as an important facet of PC gaming is comfort that's why we spend hundreds of dollars on game chairs and high display refresh rate monitors and so forth is because comfort is everything that that's we we enjoy not seeing sunlight we can go days weeks without seeing the Sun because we're comfortable and you can't do that when you're smoldering in the frickin heat doesn't matter how good at gaming you are you're gonna be measurement didn't you just do a video recently I'm just building a fan okay so shut up no next your opinion this is set your trap it's nothing to do with it I have a feeling and I feel sweep Oh only 24% of people are willing to give up PC gaming very that comfort of their conditioning clearly was not it obviously you're not dedicated enough to the PC gaming cause cow apparently not apparently no but 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taken until you mention that the Galactic bazinga no I think you're fine as we kind of talked about earlier in the show or in Cal's half there are some other boards that specifically require you to use a first bank and a second bank of RAM slots for your for your dual channel support or your quad channel support or whatever yeah you might have but there's also plenty of other boards that are like hey you can use these for slots or you can use these for slots and it looks like your sounds like you're just using the four slots that don't include the one that has a bad dim slot so I think your take your good word I have a doctor for 99 Kyle if you put Lyle in the title I bet you'd get so so many views probably not accurate also congrats on 1 million thank you very much Paul can't wait for the next time you grow the beer thank you I'm the doctor I'll probably grow the beard in November again mmm that'd be an event beard I kind of like the beard you know what I would totally forgotten this this entire show was supposed to be a celebration of me hitting 800,000 subject oh yeah Congrats I noticed that today briefly the holy name in RK it jumped up I thought it was one I have it for a few more days right but I did like a sort of matte very well publicized giveaway and a video earlier from last week oh okay but there's a big jump over subscribers so I quietly passed a terrible congratulations thank you let's thank you 800 K is good number Kratts at a million hello yeah thank you um cool Adam Arkwright for 10 bucks hey guys just finished my first build a few weeks ago thanks to you just want to know what would be a good monitor to game on should I get a 144 Hertz monitor thank you I'll see you guys at comic-con oh cool we'll see you there it's hard to say if 144 Hertz monitor would be worth it to you if we don't know the graphics card that you're rocking if you have a 1066 gig if I eight gig greater than 70 or above or but then it might be worth investing in a hundred forty-four Hertz monitor I would say 2560 by 1440 is a resolution you should go for yeah cuz that's really cool hi ever frustrate gaming is is really cool your phone of the things you can do with PC gaming that you really can't with any other little consoles or anything like that 1440s you're so nice even working forty it's a really solid being when you're not gaming better than 1080 resolution that can handle higher refresh rates it doesn't need a crazy high-end graphics card to to push yeah so that's what I would look for yep thank you very much Adam hi save $10 hello guys second donation here so you got 15 from me thanks hello would you drink something else other than beer if I sent it to you I am I am also challenging years in recovery well I save in recovery from I'm guessing from Nancy from alcohol oh I'm out which would be my guess ah yes then send us all of the alcohol you didn't drink before you came became sober but mostly stick to beer and a lot of it is just because like 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the pipeline relatively soon good kind of good if it were if it were four months or a half-year out then I would say go ahead and buy but if we're run around with this in the next couple months you know I want to hang out hang out for a bit see what happens you might even find a good deal on a 1080i yeah once once that series drops there should be at least a brief period of time where 1080 T eyes are cheaper yeah before all the stock gets sold out and then suddenly they become crazy more expensive yeah center- seven dollars and seventy seven sets of P&K oh that's that's us that's us for many reviews it seems vega 64 adam boards should beat a 1080 founders edition by five to ten percent my Asus Vega 64 runs 10% slower than my 1080 for the win hybrid does that seem right to you okay asus vegas 64 i know early tests with some cards showed the aftermarket vegas 64 from asus running slower than the reference design which is weird i never followed up on that much though it's a bios issue I think so yeah it also really depends on what games you're playing or what tests you're running to compare the two of those to each other in from from my understanding although I haven't looked in at any specific benchmarks just recently there should be some applications or games where the Vegas 64 wins and some where the 1080 wins mm-hmm so yeah it would depend them on what you're testing which we don't know from your comment unfortunately yeah that doesn't seem like too outside the bounds of reason for you for me but no cuz he's comparing it to a for the win Hybrid so I would think that sounds about right I don't think anything's out of the ordinary there yeah Thank You senator negative M b67 $13 37 cents Paul I like your Riptide series of videos and they're giving me ideas for a water loop build with quick disconnects Thank You Kyle the article from hardware was wrong the Nvidia shield never went on 600 lot hardware lied to us and I resent them for it forever we'll never use any of their great articles ever again on the show but yeah thank you I'm really excited about that in fact today my plan was to finish everything I needed to finish so I could get more of the tubes installed there of course everything I needed to finish took up pretty much the whole day so I never got to that but tomorrow I'm gonna be kickin that up so I'm gonna try it it's a tweet some stuff I need to be tweeting like projects like that as I'm going through them and building them but there should be a part 5 video very soon later this week and hopefully actually get get some water in the wire hoop which would be awesome nice wobble for $5 hey Kyle whatever happened to the PC built from $400 PC on Amazon video August 20th 2017 that's a while back oh wow they have it that's almost a year ago if I'd never followed up with a video on that actual PC I know I did a parts selection video where I went on Amazon now it kind of might have like even stream it but I recorded my time on Amazon looking for parts for a 400 PC I made had a piece that build together and actually bought the parts for it but I at least provided the links and prices for supports thought I would have used I don't know life happens and sometimes we set out to do videos and we have these great ideas and then sometimes we don't always do every single one of them like the htpc part 2 video right no that's still coming I'm still gonna yes do that of course Paul I don't forgot about that either Nick Duncan $9.99 cheers keep up the good work keep up the good donation sir yes thank you thank you very much mr. Duncan here's to you as well Jordan Lynn $20 I have an r radeon HD 6970 and it idles at about 70 degrees C and will spike over a hundred C and thermally shut down wanting a new full build should I get a ten sixty or ten seventy while waiting for a 1080p eye to come down in to come down or eleven series to come out i 720 600 K only hits 50 C i garden I think I think like the previous commenter who asks the similar question wait it's good it's just because we're expecting this with stuff pretty soon now is the time to wait that's a good time to wait and just see what happens if you can hold that for a couple more months yeah if you're really like can't deal with your current graphics card then I would say investing in a dt x 1070 right now 400 bucks is you know it's not bad not a bad deal yeah fun facility time v australia's hi guys any advance on a mini ITX case and the advice on a mini ITX case would love to do a heart tubing projects with a small form-factor case or both for both performance and visuals thanks the H 200 I from NZXT is a pretty solid contender for that yeah I think the fractal design fractal nano nano s yeah the Nano s is a really good one Jay did an amazing water coal bill than that I think that would be a phenomenal option I did - you - oh you did - you're a hot box that's right my wife's computer hot box define an OS right you 60 or 70 bucks yes and yeah and it's a like if you're gonna be water cooling in a mini ITX build it's worth looking at some of the mini ITX cases they're a slightly larger yeah so something like a nano s no room for we're just gonna give you a little bit more space to work with frame speed si is tenkan 80s when streaming on twitch streaming twitch on a PC will my GPU tend to DTI affect my performance during gameplay or does the CPU play a bigger part in this whole streaming biz great streams tonight you guys have a good night the CPU is gonna be mostly what's responsible for your streaming performance so you want to have a good strong CPU of enough cores and threads and clock speeds to handle your streaming the graphics card is primarily for for you the user to make sure that you have a decent gaming experience while you're streaming but also for your for your viewers because if you're only straight you know if you're only able to pump out let's say 27 frames a second with your 1050 or whatever graphics card you're using that will also look choppy for your viewers even though the stream might look good if your framerate is bad and you're projecting that to your audience it's it's gonna be a lackluster viewing experience so it's hard to give to specific of advice without knowing exactly what game you're playing and resolution and settings stuff like that but generally speaking right now the six core options have been better for gaming and streaming at the same time so a lot of AMD's options whether you're talking about first gen rising stuff like a 1600 or the second generation stuff that six core are good options to go with your 1050 Ti is going to affect what max resolution and max settings you can play the game at reasonably as far as what you're seeing if your CPU has enough overhead available to also encode what you're seeing for your for your viewers then that's kind of the best of both worlds so even with the 1050 Ti if you paired that with a at least a decent quad core with hyper-threading processor but more ideally a 6 core processor then you'd probably have a good gaming experience for yourself if you're playing at 1080 as well as a good streaming experience for the people watching thank you very much for the donation crit fish $5 hey guys I have an r5 2600 X with an asus x4 70 pro motherboard I upgraded from 2 8 by 8 gig sticks rip just five thirty two hundred two four eight gig sticks and dropped a 50 FPS average any thoughts upgraded from two by eight to four by eight is he saying he dropped like his performance sort of sounds like dropped my guess would be then if you when you upgraded that somehow your memory settings changed and that you're not actually running your memory at 3200 speed anymore to buy eight gigs or four by eight gigs of memory running at 3200 speed should be exactly the same performance if they're all running at 3800 speed frame I'm not sure why yes definitely there are some rising configurations that have a harder time running a four gig or four stick configuration than a two-state configuration none of that 50 FPS drop though that's something else I something the way he describes that it's hard to say he dropped 50 fps I'm not sure exactly what he means by that but yeah my guess would be that when you added more memory that your memory speed settings changed somehow so definitely try doing an a/b comparison with only two sticks versus all four sticks in double check and reality check and make sure that you're actually running at the speed at 3200 speed or not and also consider that depending on the memory kit that you're using you might just not be able to run the four stick configuration you might have to stick with 2 by 8 gig sticks if you're focused on overall gaming performance and overall gaming performance would be working more focused on keeping your memory speed running as fast as possible hopefully that helps Thank You crit fish word Andrew mcgowa mcgowan 5 euros hi Paul Kyle don't try to say my name it's Irish oh well we already did Julie I'm looking at a TV ga 1080 for the 1/2 or gigabyte g1 gaming 1080 which should I go for or the cheapest 1080 for the one to you by doing gaming go over the cheapest yeah they're gonna perform on par not gonna be much of a difference to those Johnny will in $10 hello again Oris expand gaming 7 pro versus an asus strix X $2.99 xe4 an unread build with a 79 80 X Ino overclocked for nvme drives - from the PCIe slots and ain't SATA drives PCIe price is not a factor can't decide I can't imagine the motherboard choice in this configuration having a huge impact on your overall performance yeah I don't know specifically if there's much connectivity difference between the Auris X 299 gaming 7 or the Strix X - 99 - X e yeah so as long as you have the same connectivity for both so you can actually connect up all your nvme drives that you want and all your SATA drives that you want and it boils down to cosmetics yeah it honestly if prices that I can factor then it would blow that into cosmetics at that point so so yeah personal preference okay I hope that helps Johnny a that's the okay I wish I could give you more of a direct buy this or buy that that's as direct as we can give it but yeah yeah good luck though waffle fur $5.00 here's why VR never took off its spawn during the mining crunch it's a good point it's probably a very legitimate I think that's partially maybe attracted to it at the time when people needed maximum GPU processing power suddenly GPU processing power became exorbitant ly overpriced yeah yeah but headsets Rover Christie that's it Walker thank you as I show yes so I would say cut off donations anyone who's planning to donate say before next week because we are short on time here Mark Anderson near the last donation mark Anderson's last donation no one donate you will not be ready thank you though they show was I show five dollars what's a good laptop for editing on the go with Premiere Pro around the 18th or dollar budget I am not current on like best editing laptops right now for that budget but for that price range go for one of the six core Intel based laptops there's a decent amount of them out now you just want one of the at least a 1070 yes a at least of gtx 1070 max-q or not other than that weird we're not that familiar with specific lab yeah model numbers right or we can tell you what Guido subdued judo dollars hey guys I'm doing a teardown and cleanup of my 1700 X bill do you have any tips for cleaning fans of heavy dust also take my daughter Horace I would remove the fans if they're really dusted up and and sprayed the crap out of them you do some compressed air or whatever what have you and then go with like a microfiber cloth or some other cleaning cloth and just just work it in with your fingers and stuff until all the dust is gone maybe give it a couple more sprays just just some good old-fashioned elbow grease well we'll get those fans clean if you're talking dust only then Kyle's advice is good if you got stuff that's cake down there whatever that's coming off then you really can't get better than like q-tips with some sort of solvents like goo gone or like it's just a isopropyl alcohol mixed with water like 50/50 blends and get that and dip it in and just clean off each blade it's really a very tedious and time-consuming but personally I've never had to do but yeah that's that's really it's really as far as you can go I think yeah not a lot Guido yep senator negative five dollars shipping in for the cell processing birthday gift oh yeah I like that we're kids of yourself mr. Bert that's good wait we only have five dollars to stripper Chris Reece FFA I know it's 99 cents you guys are awesome thanks for all the incredible content wishing you nothing but success in the future thank you Chris appreciate it lovely and with your ten bucks a lovely person we will definitely succeed there's no way you know Andrew Schwarz hundred years thanks for unboxing it best of luck to you maybe one day I'll send a bottle of some who got one of my favorite liqueurs or liquors yeah send us somewhere wouldn't wouldn't say no like we could we could get totally smashed on the show won't tear you down it's never having before thanks for the 16600 cake yeah bye polar bear HD $5 Thank You Kyle and Paul your videos helped me build my first PC and help store my path into computer science degrees my computer science degree you are awesome that's yeah you'll probably very soon know more than us then yeah cuz neither of us have said anything how did you not go to school for formal training at all nope in any sense so but good luck to you went to your degree yes I'm glad we glad we could help Elya wasted space 20 great British pounds long-term fan and once in a blue moon I get to catch you guys live thanks V entertainment from you both that riptide bill is gonna be amazing good luck getting things to fit no epic water cool build would be without its issues that's that amen to that that's so true I'm sorry I'm really so ready for tomorrow and just put gonna finish it off but the rest of the stuff together and in the thing that I know can just don't go together and I'm pretty sure I've got everything figured out as far as those little details of where things go and everything I just need to get the tubing worked out and stuff so yeah hopefully tomorrow will be fun sweet all right and then next up we've go Micah Carter like your car I have dollars to say guys plenty rebuild that we'll be able to game streaming 3d model this is adequate or would you change with the PC part picker list link I'm doing it in time DRM 7 TV $12 of one two three four dollars and thirty four cents salute a gentleman to both at all loyal fans and Watchers love the show thank you dear M and we agree and salute a back back to you oh yeah what do you say Mike a your system is great Verizon 720 700 X and the gtx 1070 TI you're golden oh yeah you've got 16 gigs of ram i think that's plenty you've got good solid state representation here a decent case a really good case to find r6 he's even got a mic um yeah that stream deck and everything good no this is a twenty three hundred dollar system there abouts and but it includes a lot of peripherals and stuff like that that that people don't often include so sure that's a thousand dollar system still that's a great setup it's gonna last you a while yeah who are we on now wasted space yes wasting space british pounds a more serious question currently running the 5820k 32 gigs of ram 1080i i'm a content creator starting to see performance heads streaming surprisingly do I go 8700 or 78 20 X for premiere performance for premiere pro performance and streaming ah that's a good question because you've already got a 5820k which is not bad I'm kind of surprised actually that you're seeing in the streaming performance issues it's maybe double check your streaming for four or your streaming settings to see if that's really the case because you should be totally golden with those specs streaming totally golden there's no reason you need to upgrade unless you're doing some crazy like 4k streaming it so that you're a high bit rates at 60fps there's no reason III can't see it so double check your stream settings and let's say you had a weaker CPU and it was definitely time for you to upgrade I would wait till the ninth gen core CPUs come out and before you pull the trigger on Nate hey yeah pending on the price you might be more drawn to an eighth course not man honestly for what you're doing if you're a content creator eighty seven hundred K or seventy eight 20x I feel like you get better bang for your buck with the mange either of those with the with the twenty seven hundred their prices yeah Addison yeah cuz they ain't Court resins are of a grateful man it's set up for really really good streaming really a lot less money than you have to pay for the Intel high-end desktop stuff right so yeah beefy 450 boards are right around the corner so yeah market also boasts of people in chat recommend you to check the internet because we it might be lag spikes it's causing those issues yeah that's true was screaming yeah because yeah that does it seems like you have a very powerful system for doing what you're doing with six cores and everything shouldn't be should be okay yeah especially with the 1080 1080 Ti and especially with that much memory yeah Mark Anderson 5 Australia's you guys play much VR these days haven't touched it in a lot yeah it's been the loudest I feel like once VR if VR gains more mainstream appeal then we might be able to be doing more content on it but for now it's a very niche category that I feel like very nice channels are covering like VR channels with ok I keep thinking with my HTTP see build like I want to get this set up so the VR setup is ready to go out here and I can play it yeah but I haven't gotten that far yeah so yeah not much but that's not to say I don't want to yeah right I played here a lot more than you do when you jump into it and you have a good time it's like wow that was such a cool experience yeah so and I'm sure VR games have come so far since we'd like last played yeah there's somebody been some advancements yeah we need to check in on alright John quick couple quick Johnson's I've only got one it looks like I only got a couple on additional from Blair Blair G from Australia oh my goodness e true all the way from Australia got the silver black I blame yo shirts Johnson to you yeah thank you for your order a Johnson to Joseph W for picking up the bit wit gaming desk Matt j-dub absolutely and I thank you very much and then Blair gee that's a double Johnson Johnson yes you picked up a bit with gray logo black tri-blend t-shirt glorious beautiful and then and you should you should get those shipments together Blair and you might get a little bit of a refund you're shipping - and we got Brian G Oh same initials as Blaire maybe you and Blair should should hook up you know maybe this is fate brands from Texas to brands from Texas yeah you they can make it work I've seen crazier love stories still a better love story than Twilight CPU cooler gaming desk Matt you got the 90 centimeter one primo thank you guys so much Johnson to all y'all are is alright guys that wraps up for awesome Hardware episode 155 don't have any twitch route we're gonna do a twitch raid in just a second but before that if you enjoyed this episode hit the thumbs up button if there's somebody out there who wants to make timestamps and post those in 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