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I'm going to talk about the rumor mill is the first segment because the stuff we're gonna talk about it here is all rumors it's probably not even true probably just pointless to you look up your ass but first story here from techradar.com about AMD Zen - I personally am excited about in send - because I have been very happy with all of the Zen based things that AMD has released over the past year and a half or so Zen - is supposed to be seven nanometer which is cool original Zen first generation rise and stuff free and first generation third upper step was based on a fort was built on a fourteen animator process that was original Zen Zen Plus which is what the second gen stuff is based on it's 12 nanometers of small size shrink not that huge but a bit so dropping it down to 70 nanometers could mean many different things when it comes to power efficiency I hope it does not mean bad things when it comes to like yields and their ability to produce these because lots of us know that Intel has had just to just did dill is they've had a dilly of a pickle quote Flanders getting their ten nanometer stuff up and running so we should point out from the echo here that this is according to a Chinese forum user on chip hill that's where Chappelle's website Chinese a lot of rumors originated from there some sober true some or not so again since this is the rumor mill everything should be taken with a grain of salt but the upcoming seven nanometers m2 architecture is said to potentially be making sixteen core processors the norm for am knees next-gen mainstream mainstream and core CPUs so this is significant in multiple ways because am4 when AMD launched it they made a promise that that it was gonna be it had a life cycle up until 2020 so whether that's the end of 2020 or the beginning of 2020 that's still a decent amount of time still left on this product life cycle but a lot of people thought I mean or speculated that when when the Zen plus stuff came out second generation rising 2000 series he views like I feel so on top of it this time whereas when Kyle was talking about that last week yeah yeah yeah and I was totally baffled by it venereal the names mixed up point being the the second dense stuff has been pretty exciting I mean it's not like super amazingly better than the first gen stuff but it was a nice step up and it gave some nice options and some more memory compatibility so people were happy with it and I was kind of thinking like I had maybe that's all present or 4 a.m. for for their current platform and they're gonna let this ride for you know you're here so and then whatever next-gen stuff comes out they'll have a new platform for it but if they're actually gonna have third generation like Rison 3000 series processors on mainstream am 4 that's kind of interesting now obviously since this is all early and still speculation we don't know like does that mean that's like your your 300 series chipset motherboards with a m4 or suddenly gonna support 3000 series rise in 16 core processors like that seems like a little bit of a stretch to me I could I could see it potentially being like all right whatever whatever the third generation rise and stuff is is going to be compatible with 400 series motherboards because I'll get an we'll get to in just a sec but there's a little bit more of immersion based on that but it is true that at Computex 2018 AMD did debut very first seven nanometer actual silicon as n2 silicon it was an epic processor but all of the rise and thread Ripper epic stuff right now is all based on the same rise and die that they originally made that eight core die that they used one of four main stream processors or 4 of 4 shredder per an epic stuff so yeah if they can make a 14 nanometer architecture first gen Rison with 8 cores on that little die that they made for it then it would stand to reason that if you shrink the process from 14 and 1/2 down to seven nanometer then you could have about the same size chip with double the course that's not an A to B comparison but I mean that is one of the benefits of the die shrink so it doesn't seem like that big of a stretch but I think I think the big question would be when when would this actually be happening and we don't know I don't think we've heard of anything very soon when it comes to actual concrete release dates apart from third refer to stuff which AMD didn't say it was coming in q3 what do they say q3 did to say August July whatever soon soon very poor to the lines blur of what I can say and what I can't say exactly but you know I wouldn't even be surprised if if Zen 2 is is somehow supported on like the X 370 boards or something like that I feel like AMD just like always surprises me with their backwards compatibility and how flexible their platforms are because and the reason also is because I don't think x4 70s that much different the next 370 so I feel like it wouldn't be a huge it wouldn't be completely far-fetched to think that it would be supported on both maybe certain features wouldn't work or work as well something with you know maybe maybe like the precision boost 3.0 whatever they're gonna call it later on doesn't function the same on an older chipset board or something like that but I've been I've been pretty pleasantly surprised by AMD and just how flexible they are with with newer launches where which is like the total polar opposite model of Intel right I'd say in most cases we're adding more cores that warrants a completely new platform you'd have to buy a new motherboard and you know got out your system or whatever so I don't know but we'll see it'll be interesting so it's a great way for AMD to stick it to Intel to point out an area that they have not been as kind to consumers by creating a product that doesn't do that but it has a little bit more forward compatibility but it would be cool if you bought a 300 series board when they first became available to suddenly like two plus years later be like hey this new processor you're coming out I can still slow into that board I don't see like a B 350 you know like a $70 be 350 board able to run a 16 grower third gen rise and chip you know at full speed all the time so I don't know a lot to see what they actually do but there's there's a little bit of official word from AMD but not much they're they're labs are networking ends and they're working Xen to into retail products then one other thing to point out just as a follow up there's a tech powerup article also linked in the description all those stories were talking about by the way guys were linked in the description if you want to read more msi dropped a bit of a hint about AMD increasing the aim for cpu counts because they posted a video this video has now been taken down so that maybe maybe they took it down because the video had actual legitimate information but the video described an AMD be 450 chipset supporting 8 core and cpu's it doesn't seem like they put and up this or something where the main chords yeah or it was just something that was like poorly chant translated from Chinese to English or something and I was actually more up to eight cores that's possible too but you know it's the rumor mill so what you're talking about rumors it's at work there you go then - very interesting a lot of stuff to ponder here well we're pondering it pondering pondering the out of it okay that's been a rumor here this one's from PC perspective I believe originally from W CCF tech who published what they claim is leaked GeForce GTX 1170 benchmarks by the way of this mysterious looking picture of a of a monitor screen here that's not real monitor yeah it is slightly suspicious though it's a picture of a screen but in this picture you can see clearly listed the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1170 obviously obviously that is irrefutable evidence that it exists and that this is a legitimate picture of a computer screen just to clarify this was found on polish hardware forums quote-unquote I don't know if enough Poland has nationalized hardware forums or if the earth the article is more specific but whatever if this screenshot is true the results show this gtx 1170 long rumored video card from nvidia now this would be below a gtx 1180 in that product stack in performance as well as price but according to this results twenty two thousand nine hundred and eighty nine in was fire strike yeah that would that would actually be a higher score than a 1080i so that would be pretty impressive for eleven seventy also in the screenshot you can see the memory listed here 16384 megabytes with 16 gigs of memory would also be a pretty big jump up considering that even like your Titans right now I have 12 or your love your 1180 I'm sorry your 1080 eyes have 11 and you're ten days and ten 70s have eight gigs respectively so all of that said there's a lot of shadiness and potential reason for this not to be legitimate going on here it's picture of monitor fire strikes scores as also demonstrated in the article are very easy to manipulate all you need to know is played some basic HTML editing or having it have a web editor why do they have Wayman why don't they have Valle up like like what are obviously they're in the middle of an intense benchmarking run with a bunch of different things and they didn't had they only had the split second to take the screen shot in between running their various benchmarks about they're covering stuff up oh the valley probably like a giant you know Adobe Photoshop honestly if they're fudging results here anyway then yeah I also pointed out 3d mark updates their database with different graphics cards as they're available if you benchmark a graphics card with 3d mark before it's actually released or early enough that it's not in their database yet it would not say NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1170 right here and say like I forget exactly what it says unidentified graphics card or something like that right so yet another reason why this is it's actually excuse me that's one that true but it's also leaking information that EVGA is perhaps it does they do point the finger squarely at EVGA as far as the source of this leak it says it's an EVGA corporation sourced video card old allegations yes sir but obviously proves 16 gig gtx 1170 is running at 2.5 gigahertz that sounds are pretty damn good for sweet that sounds pretty damn fast ok one more room or near this one directly from from hassanover a WCC of tech so this is about Intel's ninth generation flagship series of processors further confirmation yet again provided by the super legit source Chinese websites Chappell who Lawler no this is cool all cool all accomplished many of them who Hassan says is a source which has been legit with their previous leaks so you know you can accept that or you can you can think it's full of garbage but we're gonna keep going down these leaks here they actually posted this bit of a chart about the three top-end SKUs from Intel's purported upcoming ninth generation flagship bear in mind these are not die shrink CPUs this is not canon like this is still copy lake this is still a revision of coffee lake still 14 nanometer but they said they're gonna have at least three case Q's there k Series C excuse which would be unlocked the top end oneness the I $9.99 hundred K then they got the i7 9700 K + the f5 9600 cake 9900 k is at eight core sixteen to her processor 9700 case eight cores without your hyper threading so only eight threads and your 9600 K is six cores and six threats feel like you're missing something like in the like a 6 quart 12 third processor range or something but anyway um 9900 K if this is accurate will boost on one or two cores all the way up to five gigahertz at stock which is fairly impressive on all course it will go to 4.7 gigahertz all these CPUs have a 95 watt TDP and your 9700 K will get up to 4.9 gigahertz um one or two cores I'm one core I guess and your 9600 K will get up to 4.6 gigahertz on one core four point six care it's all cores for the ninety seven under K in 4.3 gigahertz all cores for the 9600 K there's a little bit more information in the chart here such as they're theorized prices of 450 350 and a $250 for these three processors respectively 60 Meg cache 12 the 9 Meg's for the 9700 K and 9600 K so I mean this all seems within the realm of possibility it also seems somewhat impressive it also seems like if Intel is really hitting higher these higher frequencies with not that different of silicon versus what they've they've currently got then maybe they really are doing like a soldered soldering heat spreader or something like that to give themselves a little bit more thermal Headroom right and that seems like legitimate possibility there there's been other rumoured CPUs in this stack of 9000 series processors and there's also some information in the article about what they think the 300 series Cabul 8 refresh well had as well we're not sure about that still there's been a rumored Z 390 chipset but then it was hurt we've heard that that Z 3 and anything was scrapped and that it's still gonna be Z 370 but they'll have an updated requirement for Z 370 so yeah all this stuff is still up in the air but does seem like there is some stuff coming out from Intel perhaps a little bit more of an answer back for the rise and stuff the name D is AG because you know they do they need they need higher quartets they need they need to be able to come back at that and you know they want to get my recommendation then that's the way they got to go so yeah there it is that's been me that's all we have for rumor mill cool so let's move on to some some real news which is we can trust these ones and perhaps slightly more trustworthy but I don't really know most of this stuff is it's all lies it's all from the internet so this is true say about that right here's an article from the verge Asus Phillips as well some other companies have been fined for price fixing in Europe's finest handed down by the European Commission busted they also recently handed Google a five billion dollar antitrust fund that was a record Wow and these four more funds for these four or more companies were announced today or yes today this is from the 24th so um asus is probably the company that you guys are most maybe you work the most I mean Phillips um pioneer obviously they're they're pretty well known Dena and merits I don't know if they do much in the US there they weren't a company I was familiar with but all four of these offending parties have admitted to interfering with the pricing of online retailers so as to maintain artificially high prices for their products none of them worked together so there was no collaboration or collusion going on between these four companies no collusion but they all did get fine for the same thing which is why it's all kind of grouped together in the same announcement asus intervened to prevent online retailers in Germany and France from selling its laptops and displays below it's recommended resale prices so basically try to maintain high prices adenine and Marantz kept the pricing of their headphones and speakers in Germany and the Netherlands higher than the market could otherwise sustain Philips engaged in similar shenanigans with almost its entire entire portfolio of products and France everything from kitchen appliances to vacuum cleaners to electric toothbrushes and trimmers pioneers spend the widest geographical range with 12 affected EU Member States gone for gun for the geographic win I think it was at the domination victory I think for civilization okay but yet 12 EU Member States including Germany France in the UK all of these companies have cooperated with the European Commission and for that cooperation they got a 40% discount on their fines 40% off okay that's reasonable issues though will still have to pay seventy four point four million dollars Dena and Moran spent nine million Phillips thirty four point nine million pioneer eleven point nine million so Asus is the big the biggest purpose Asus apparently it was the most money they were the biggest by double over what they were they were cocked with the most stuff bad stuff the most price fixing I don't know it's like in like when you're playing you know and somebody goes out and you have to pay for all the cards that are still in your hand so what happens what happened with you I mean if you're keeping score oh who the hell keeps scored you know I don't even know that was a thing how would you not keep score how are you gonna tell who wins it's just whoever they're not revered whoever goes out first is the winner yeah of one game yeah then you play a new game and there's a new winner I'm a casual you know player because I was aware I wasn't aware that there is anything more no no actual you know play when you play who know you have to set up your brackets you know with different various teams it's naturally you usually go with the double elimination you know there's a if you're if you're if you come in as a high ranked team you might get a bye in the first round it's a very that's it that's all you know is not efficient should not be a competitive game this is like this is like having a gta5 online tournament it's ridiculous absolutely preposterous yeah let's move on clearly valve has banned over 60,000 steam accounts smashing its previous record bells all I was very proud of banning banning who's a band scammers scammers right sure bands people who deserve to be banned I'm sure no one's been presuming of course that all these assholes deserve to be banned this actually occurred about a week ago 60,000 accounts are banned on Tuesday July 17th via the valve anti-cheat system or vac now this was the largest vac wave in the platform's history and it's at the article seems slightly I'm slightly confused by the way it says this because it says 60,000 steam accounts were banned on Tuesday and then it says but Wednesday morning the banhammer really started swinging with 28,000 411 accounts being throughout the day sada and it does that mean that it's a total of 88,000 I think man that's what it that's what it seems to be saying so why wouldn't you put that in the headline 60,000 I'm saying his PC games in you gotta lead you know you gotta leave with your numbers you know you're Scott draw best before gets the eyeballs you know the stats you got to tell them how many people died we could write this so anyway just just clarifying that it was a child valves vac system watches over a number of games including Counter Strike global Offensive csgo dota 2 Call of Duty series and Ark survival evolved as it valves zero-tolerance speaking colorants valves zero-tolerance policy much like mine when I drink beer means that their band will never be overturned so these people are banned forever forever their firm stance we're never banned from like that steam forever banned unless they open a new account then but then they would have to link that into account with a different phone number and they would have to buy their games all over again which buying the games all over again is that's gotta be the probably the hardest part hey getting a different phone number is pretty easy use anyone have this one yeah come on your house yeah just or just punch in random random members and hope you never have to do account recovery verification all right I don't have notes for this story but I did want to at least point out that it has been published Backblaze is a company Hey they run data centers but they run it in a kind of unique way in that they use consumer hard drives and often used consumer hard drives in their data centers so they have a methodology that is basically assuming the drives will fail so these lots of drives some of them have shorter life spans than others and every quarter they publish a report of how many drives they have in use and their failure rate and this is not the most scientific breakdown of like overall drive failure rates but it is somewhat interesting to look at so if you've got that grain of salt take the tastes on your lips then you can proceed to look at some of these numbers and again I apologize for not having notes for these but reporting period there's four cute - that's April it's in June 2018 they use drives ranging in size from four terabytes up to ten terabytes and you can see how many drives of each type they actually used they're from HGST Seagate Toshiba and Western Digital so for instance some of the drives that they only have a few of down here you definitely definitely should not assume this is any sort of indication as to the like overall failure rate of the drives because you need a massive sample size in order to really determine that however some drives like Seagate's 4 terabyte SD 4000 here you know they have 27,000 of those going so a 1.8 5 percent failure rate there on that many drives that's pretty decent it's the highest one there's that no so the secretary decent well the the highest if you're looking at actual annualized failure rate is gonna be this 4 terabyte HD ST but they only had 78 drives and one of them failed so that was that was a relatively high count there so anyway um get 2 million away those days okay drive yeah how many days that drive days of that bits that many drives times these days they were in use I see there's also what is this one this is from April to June inclusive what's the difference between these two charts I don't know I'm waiting for since 0.08% different dates well I'm not gonna I'm not gonna reporting period April 2013 to June 2018 oh ok so sorry this is this is their lifetime this is for everything you're right Kyle I thought the three was an 8 there and I was like wait now this is still mm-hmm you think I say so this is you can see all of the drives that they've used for many many different places why are they using Comic Sans or so if you want if you want the drive that's been used that they had the most Seagate 12 terabyte here that's not too bad anyway the WD I could have to sit here and and and sort of crunch these numbers to get some some oh look here they did that yeah terabyte consumer drives have a 1.1 percent annualised failure rate enterprise drives have a 1.2 percent annualised failure rate oh my god what why are we buying enterprise drives wait when consumer drives fails slightly less that makes no sense but wait no nevermind as of q2 2018 and a terabyte consumer drives 1.3 percent enterprise 0.97 so you just got to give it time you know time that's so slight though that's such like a it's like an any when you run it leave a center though that's it that's significant is it it's point zero six percent very significant yeah that's the money equals money right name for the amount of money extra that you're paying for enterprise drives is it worth the point zero six percent failure rate it's a peace of mind Cal it's peace of mind that you have that much less of a failure we need a money per failure rate percentage point ratio chart benchmark that's what they're they're been a few times when when another publication has taken these Backblaze reports and then like actually made some graphs and that's always fun when that happens but I had it this one can delete today's line up so I did not do that okay one one less I'll start here this one was kind of fun first it says a two parter so this is the gamers Nexus hardware and news that published yesterday which has multiple things that they're they talked about but the thing I wanted to specifically talk about was the fake quote-unquote faces on beef for 50 motherboards which is this is gamers Nexus reporting based on a builds Lloyd video where he took a look at some of these upcoming be 450 motherboards pictures of their actual MOSFET layout power delivery and he determines that I'm gonna read this off so I don't I don't screw it up so much it said that we've seen boards in the past a new doubling scheme is where they go to high side to low side and - chokes I'll driven by one driver and they call it two phases but gigabyte axed the high side my offset MOSFET on the be 450 resulting in one high side to low side to choke someone drivers so um it's it's it's basically removing more componentry from that power delivery ABCD that that it goes through when you're going from the 12-volt that the power supply delivers to the more finite amount of voltage that the CPU is actually able to use but it's sort of a tricky way that they did it in order to potentially still be able to say oh we have this eight phase power delivery on this you know inexpensive p450 motherboard when they're leaving out some key components we cut which can actually affect that power delivery and result in lesser performance for the board Steve's video talks a little bit more about that I'm not going to go further onto it right now but upside is that after talking about this publishing it it does look like they've got had some direct response from the industry in that as rocking gigabyte have now both updated their product pages so yeah so as arcing gigabyte after catching that critique and build Zoid just pointing out like hey this really isn't kind of a legitimate configuration like it reminded me a little bit it's not exactly the same thing like AMD's older eight core processors like the 80 PT 150 and stuff like the old bulls and bulldozers and stuff there were some complaints about that because of resource sharing between the various cores that they weren't true eight core processors and in certain benchmarks that that I did actually play out so a good job builds oi for going in there and like having the details look at that that he did because there's not many people who go into that level of detail and right have that amount of knowledge about the various surface mounted components and whatever they go on the motherboard so they can look at it and see how it's all lined up there right I certainly can't do that nope but leave that to the pros wanted to point that out anyway welcome both links are in the description if you guys want to check that out further not all heroes wear keeps thank you hi mom I'm Jess okay lets us move on though that is pretty much all I've got for my half of the show sorry this is a little bit shorter than usual that's okay my buddy have somebody should use Cal's Kyle's got a short half - you're not alone both shorties today we're gonna quickly run through some donation comments once again happy birthday sell all this money goes to him and not us yes starting with Guido Sarducci $5 donation wait I should put the whole thing up there here we go that's better he said currently rebuilding my 1700 x RG strix 1070 TI system cleaning out the dust and such while watching the show I'll tag you on Twitter with clean pics yeah you know here's your best of luck give me them clean that's a great 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there I think long term you'll be more happy with the new graphics card because you buy the new graphics card and you can play games on it for every years whereas your appears like a night and you'll probably like after you buy the graphics card you know give yourself a week or two or a month or so and then you'll probably be able to scratch scrape together some money to buy some beer too and you can have your cake and eat it too that's always fun thank you for donation up good advice Baja truck guy 5 dog nation says happy birthday sell whoo that's a great way to say happy birthday it's Baja cash why thanks Baja truck at Grim Reaper ten eighty ten dollars in 69 cents specific I'm editing a 10 second video right now it's the hardest thing I've ever done I completely feel you there the shorter the shorter you want to make the video if you're like I'm gonna make one minute videos that's a stupid it's a bad idea that's why Linus didn't make his fat like tech quickie he didn't make it like five minute tech or whatever it's too harsh cuz it's too hard he made it as fast as possible which is nonspecific which means right whatever the length in which really means nothing if you promise five minutes it's gonna take you yes 100 minutes more so we feel your pain but he says anyway what beer would you recommend to a new drinker I've tried Bud and whatnot but don't like the alcoholic bland taste I got started on Fat Tire Fat Tire Fat Tire is a good that was the forget that was the first like beer that that kind of like got got my feet wet a little bit with like craft beer yeah nothing too bold nothing too adventures but but something that definitely tastes a lot more full-bodied has a bit thicker body than in Bud Light and stuff and the crappy American domestic beers that was that was my gateway beer and opened up a whole load of doors to other great beers arrogant bastard also I have to say is that at an entry like it depends on how bold is a new drinker cuz I liked it the first time I had it but not everyone is gonna be the same so yeah I like your bastard might have a hard time with our get better at the game sure yes somebody recommended Sam Adams I think Sam Adams is a good option yeah Newcastle is it is a decent brown ale Newcastle fire stone just find an Amber find an amber yeah something multi with a little malt but avoid pills because that's basically what all American domestic beers are yeah there are much better pilsners out there like from Europe and stuff but they might still taste a little bit too similar Oh MB 6770 Christine it's from San Francisco that's a good one too you like it yep okay there's lots of this so many could be red stripe is drinkin hopefully some of these have provided good suggestions for you Michael la voce $10 says happy birthday so Eddie thank you Michael happy birthday short and sweet NB 67 $35 oh my god whoo happy birthday cell thank you sir Paul I hope that you had a great time at Comic Con sure sure he'll just shoot if I had a great I'm a Comic Con MBI I don't care my main goal is to make sure Kyle didn't have a good time yeah you succeeded well time I was just like poking him and took its camera and threw it on the ground you don't even have to cuz I was just dying to be with you all weekend that was bad enough he kept appearing in his vlog and he's a tell him in his blog was stupid you look stupid no we both we both had a very good time it was great Steve was there too yeah it's good good got you bro out touch each other's dicks poop Shepherd pups Shepherd $5 speaking of dicks I saw Jays should you wait for 1180 video I was thinking you just said speaking of dicks I saw James no that is what you just said that's pretty good plan we need a clip of that right now even Jay admits to being a dick hole that's it that's his quaint phrase that's just a very like a seamless speaking of dicks well initially I was actually thinking about pub Shepherd because because he's pup Shepherd I won't go into further detail as to why I'm connecting the dots there but I guess it works in multiple ways and that's a beautiful thing so anyway I saw Jays should you for the 1180 video I was thinking I have a 980ti on an FX 8350 I can get 40 to 120 fps medium to high settings to extreme at wide quad HD there's a there is a chance depending on the game you're playing that your FX 8350 is holding your 980 T back a little bit yeah especially wqhd I mean you're talking higher than 1080 resolution but that said you have a pretty decent setup right now 980 and I would say my forum upgrade is in order if your question is whether or not you should wait for the 1080 therefore the 1180 then then yes you should because right now I think you're doing all right yeah yeah you're solid I better say yeah save your money and then once that comes up i would i would recommend saving it for a whole system upgrade i mean if you've already got a pretty you know mid to high ends kind of kind of configuration and upgrading from there you want to go higher end so I would want kind of the newest newer platforms you know what are your talking Intel or AMD yep bazinga X $10 how is your solar power your solar cells working out sorry would be more last week bad week oh that's ok visiting it thank you solar cells working great although right now because it's super hot certainly not like I'm using about tooth can't get my percentages right - like I'm generating about this much with the solar and I'm using about this much energy overall so I'm definitely using more than I'm generating right now the battery helps me use all of the solar that I generate which is cool but this is the months the months of the year when in the original charts that they give you where they look at your energy usage and like how much they expect to be generating this is the time of year when the usage is definitely gonna be higher than what it's able to to put out just because I can't run the AC all the time on my array I'm like I would need more solar panels and stuff do that right but it's still making me use signal s overall than I would be otherwise it's cool I'm glad that's working out for you yeah kickin wings 7 2 3 $5 hey guys I turned 21 yesterday happy birthday to you sir and finally sharing her here with y'all keep doing what y'all do and have a nice night and sell enjoy a beer on me way to be responsible wait till you 21 to enjoy that beer yeah that's what we recommend here on the show yep and then you can be degenerate asshole afterwards no probably not I mean drink responsibly talk to me after the show John show $25 love the show would love to send you some magical oh no I totally read that machine some local Michigan beers to have an awesome hardware nothing magical about that or is there sounds magical to me we would love to try some beer from Michigan ed John you're welcome to do that people have been sending us things to drink and eat and we keep drinking and eating them despite that you 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you're gonna go for a two way GPU configuration which most people aren't going to do that said if you want to overclock then your mid-range to high-end x4 70 boards often have better power delivery setups so if you if there's a board you like right now and it's not like super expensive and then you can go for it if not maybe hanging out see the B 450 boards to come out and see if there's one that's like not like low-end or entry-level because you want spend a little bit more to make sure that you can overclock yeah that would be you well we'll be talking about some be 450 boards on my half the show that are that are seemingly available oh good yeah a lot of options so stay tuned tobin $10 the PC I built that should be that should be getting a hundred a hundred FPS easy and yet I only get 60fps any ideas I can't send the link through this chat if so thank you yes you guys are awesome it's opening the first potential suspect there would be vsync if you're getting 60 frames per second consistently you might just have vsync on either in the game you're playing or the global vsync setting in the GPU has been Nvidia Nvidia control panel has global settings yeah then you can apply if he sync is on its gonna cap your framerate it's the same refresh rate that your monitor has which is usually 60 Hertz for most standard monitors unless you have a higher refresh rate monitor yeah but yeah that that'd be mine but without further information that would be my first guess it's probably accurate also make sure you have up-to-date drivers with everything and see if you can find other people who have very similar configurations to you when it comes to CPU and graphics card that have maybe tested the same games that you're playing and see if you can get you know more direct comparison to somebody else's using the same configuration to see where you should be at yeah hopefully that helps Atlas $5 do either of you have a guess as to when the new evolve X will be available also why did you rebranded de bit whit you don't know when the evolve X will be available didn't they say a rough ETA it's supposed to be this year I want to say October October I want to say October cuz I remember thinking like oh that's like my birthday time because I was born in October so I want to say October that sounds very familiar to me I don't know if that's changed since then but I'm pretty sure that's what they said at Computex and as for the rebranded bit with question um there's there's a few reasons why rebrand it to be wet I won't go to into detail because there's videos and stuff about it but I just felt like it was a little bit more professional than awesomesauce Network and I kind of outgrew it I just outgrew that name and I wasn't really happy with it I just felt like it was time to do the tattoo analogy a change yeah good old tattoo analogy it's like a tattoo that you got when you were a teenager you don't regret it you've just outgrown it and that's kind of how I still 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rig the same two fans don't spin up for girls that the channel I have to unplug that sounds like you have a power issue sounds like a very issue that you seem to fans don't spin regardless of chin you have to unplug it it sounds like it might be at your commander Pro is defective yeah it sounds like a hardware failure because in my experience with the commander pros if you're plugging in just the pwm fan and power to it like all the whatever's plugged in just spins up although i haven't delved into the software very much so i don't know if there's anything in there any setting in there that you know it might have tried to apply to the commander pro that it's got it messed up or something but um I would probably contact Corsair about that because it seems like not the way that the commander pro should be working definitely not sorry sorry we can't give you more detailed response than that but good luck Matt bon bon dollars when we be finishing the htpc paul saj soon it's not like it's not like you've been working on like other amazing projects that require time like building super fancy $10,000 custom water-cooled pcs the hell are you doing all your time Paul where's the stupid HTC I I need to I need to figure that I would damn it there's still I need my HTTP C contents all there's wood beetles in the piece of wood you owe me this I can't I can't go and start preparing that piece of wood while they're still like like like little little wood shavings that poop out of it every so often cuz there's there's just like waiting I'm like maybe they'll just die and then it won't that won't happen anymore but then everyone smile like go on other than there's a little pile of em so I probably need to take it back to where I originally got it and have him reek in it in order to kill those like that's probably honestly well there'd be like a wood beetle video first that precedes the matter just get my drill and like everywhere there's a little wood beetle hole I just attack it and drill to drill it out like would there like wood Gophers yeah so he to bomb those efforts oh I I still want to do it but um yeah I need to figure I need to figure that out man thank you for continuing to encourage me to finish my HTPC to encourage its and roush why are five Canadians one beer for sale yeah you get a pretty good good beer out of five dollars or you can get like you know three beers if you're buying a six-pack so really sell has his options laid out for him thanks to you mr. Swire we appreciate your donation even it even if it is from a Canadian oh whipped cream I forgot I had that that's been there for a while I wouldn't trust it not that I would trust whipped cream much in general but especially one that's been in that fridge for months on end um okay bust not the stouts where did this modern times be a copy rusty stout this is delicious and it's from San Diego where we just were at Comic Con okay so relevant I am Tobin $5 risin three MSI gaming m7 with two gtx msi 1070 TI's in sli with 32 gigs of DDR for I can't send a pc part picker link you know that's really a shame when you have such a high end system and it doesn't even let you send links it just sounds like such a waste of hardware oh I probably read this Rison 3 I'm just kidding I'm just don't freak out yet oh so I'm not sure why she's asking Tobin yeah there's not really a question here I think maybe he's asking if the part selection is that a good build everything seems pretty high I don't don't don't don't go 1070 T is Li especially we go go with a single 1080 TI that's what you're thinking about or arise in 3 is by far the low you know the bottleneck in this one yeah but I'd say with a 1080 Ti and 32 gigs of DDR for that maybe like a 1700 or at 2700 good choice yeah and just make sure you get like an 8 core once yeah balanced setup or a 6 core hyper credit Intel chip and I would potentially wade out hold out to see what NVIDIA has to offer in the realm of next-gen graphics cards yes riot 4 5 6 for 7 dollars I love your channels how would I work for y'all and you guys are great um well if we really needed help from from the masses and let's say we had a job opening I'm sure that we would you know I know I would probably like create a video I upload a video saying I need help send in your resumes and applications this is what I'm looking for I'll let you know when I need one of your help one of yours helps helps us miss specifically right now I'm good I'm a little ragtag team I'm enjoying it I don't have any openings available unfortunately no maybe eventually I've never I've never really aspired to be a job creator yeah I'm not I'm not an Elon Musk type I mean that may be so healthy azzam we expand slowly but steadily that's that's kind of the mo here I want to overextend ourselves thank you right you just okay all right we're on $5 but it'd be weird to see a flashed or overclocked Atari Jaguar or turbo graphics 16 etc to be benched maybe liquid metal and water cooling on them that's a really old turbo graphics 16 is like wow that's really old Atari Jaguar is could you even over call of it um I mean I'm sure there's a way if you really really knew what you were doing and you could get in and like modify firmware and stuff like that but I don't know how you would benchmark a turbo graphics 16 like you play altered beast that like 144 FBI got a hundred and I got a high refresh rate display or something I don't know that would be like III like this from a conceptual standpoint I just there's so many questions about how you would actually do it but I would be curious you know so I made that video I'd watch it I'm too young and I don't even know what those things are turbo graphics 16 so Nintendo the original Nintendo and the NES yes I'm like familiar with that f1 you know in the US and gosh something like that yeah but that was an 8-bit system uh-huh so after it was out for a few years and it sort of proved that there was a pretty big market for a home console like it did really well is very successful these successor consoles kind of the beginning of the whole console procedure of like new consoles coming out every every year or every couple couple years and trying to maintain you know establish dominance and all that kind of thing yeah the second generations are the generation of stuffs that came out after the Nintendo was all 16-bit okay so turbo graphics 16 16-bit a 16-bit console that came out after Nintendo was it by a company called turbo graphics or was yeah I don't know much about the original company all I know is my friend my friend up the street had one I would go over there he also had the first ever CD player that I used and then he got the know ice you get the vanilla ice single yes he listened to Ice Ice Baby nice I learned ice ice baby was from a liner notes of of that CD yeah hey write a nice people are saying NEC really NEC made the turbografx-16 okay let's get it on I didn't know that and more you know if chad has to believe it's twitch chat is to believed and they usually pretty on on the ball you see me all right duper graphic sixteen there it is it is anyway alright with a long answer to this that would be kind of cool but I don't know how you would do it I guess this is really the final incident right Thank You wishbone drew card Picard five dollars I am now more hyped for the HTTP see now that I know it will be a man vs bug Bell Royale man vs. a bug a lot more hyped up them it's like like it would actually be but yeah you know I'll try to embrace that yeah you can use that why that there aliens or something this world Jason Kristoff $9.99 happy birthday cell Paul wins your comic-con vids and Kyle nice glasses thank you Jason my comic-con vid should go up tomorrow Kyle's comic-con vid is already up on a float plane tears and then our videos I think you're gonna overlap a decent amount so um yes yeah mine mine should go up tomorrow did you edit yours already Joe edited mine no you let Joe edit your vlogs I always added my vlog as myself cuz I feel like they're so personal like what if I like flash my dick in one of them in one of the shots you know um then Joe or whoever's editing for me you just saw me do I don't I don't know how I would have had time to do everything I've done between when we got home on Sunday and now without having Joe edit yeah like I just yeah I know it wasted my entire yesterday that piece of crap yeah you see it was a good blog it's good luck they're both don't you get out great block okay loggy loggy you know cue Zenon Zenon Zenon ook $5 hi Paul greetings from Trinidad oh my god I'll go that's so I feel like you must be listening to like are those real places Trinidad and Tobago zuv their islands it's an island yeah if internet there I'm just I'm just persuading it's like it's a popular vacation destination like a like like a lychee or Hawaii or something like that like like go Google Image Search trinidad and tobago right now just and tell me and tell me you tell me you wouldn't rather be there right now than here wait it's it's two islands that's like the name honestly I don't know I've always been somewhat confused by the name Trinidad and Tobago cuz it's it's like two names is it more than one island right then why not just say one of the other where you're at I'm in Tobago alright two islands that's the same day like country they're like like the Cayman Islands it's multiple islands one one didn't she central government he called the Trinidad I don't know the countries the countries the name of two two islands yes why don't we call it like the Hawaiian Islands or like the Hawaii Hawaii it's just like Hawaii in Oahu um what Hawaii and Maui Hawaii madlenka what five or six or seven plus Hawaiian Islands exactly it's them all off exactly you don't call it Hawaii Maui and just call it the Trinidad's the Trinidad's yeah that sounds way better Trinidad and Tobago doesn't make any sense I mean they like Mary citizens of Tobago would be pretty pissed off by that Tobago is it the big oh oh now we can't pronounce it great first of all we don't think it makes sense now we don't even gotta say in turn is a DIN toboggan okay alright okay is actually question his actual question oh yeah I have to use a VPN to send this what okay see I knew the procedure your willingness to go through that I was right I would like to thank you for your guidance and building my new gaming PC you're very welcome thank you for saying thank you thank you for the donation I apologize if we have offended you or any of the other citizens of your fine country I know and our complete lack of knowledge Sebago tobacco tobacco sentence tobacco's is with some I usually hear in the end the Olympics Trinidad in tobacco de Becque accurate tranny tranny dad and no ok let's I wonder if he's on Trinidad or Tobago that's also a good question but we may never know I guess not retro game God five dollars your show is my favorite look forward to it every week thank you for all you guys do thank you retro game Adam thank you for making all those awesome retro games I didn't realize there was a god that we could thank for that but now I know should we give you an afraid of the guide of retro games Fiona I mean hey we've it's it's kind of a theme for this this little bit here we've been talking about turbografx-16 and stuff sounds like gods no no the retro yes thank you retro game good nathan party $5 would you guys drink a homebrew and if so what's your preference well Nathan alright uh yeah I think the homebrew assuming that you would definitely poison it and and it would just like dude are dying don't put any poison in there that's fine yeah yeah just no poison is the only way or laxatives that would be that would suck to mainly poison though it'll look I don't wanna die or have diarrhea like I feel like there's a ninety nine point eight percent chance that anything that shows up and we drink and be like you know home-brewed delicious whatever but there's that little chance that somebody sends us something that like gets us both pregnant or something like I don't know how that works it's like if you ever want trick-or-treating nowadays and someone handed you like here's a slice of a macaroni casserole that I just made like would you eat that just something that some random person made themselves with their own hands like a three cheese macaroni kesav like we're talking about only two cheese no obviously that and it was like the psyche they dated and they didn't put the thought into it to get a third and not like these creamy Velveeta cheese just like shitty Kraft oh you're not really selling it and they used water instant okay yeah they used water instead of milk so it wasn't even like super creamy it was like kind of watery this answers still no then so if they did use milk and it was creamy and it was three cheese's you'd take the risk I mean I'd like taste it you know you have to see if it's good the taste it could could inevitably kill you that could be enough poison you would probably taste the part didn't have the poison in it they mix that's not how it works that's your misunderstanding how cooking works fundamentally and all that shit's mixed together not necessarily maybe they added the poison after it was all cooked it's like one specific like there's a one macaroni full of poison it's like if you chopped off some designs you could eat the interests of the boys I give you chopped off some Caesars cans and his blood three cheese it's my split if my blood got all over you and I was like sorry I have AIDS and you were like no it's okay or if you're like oh no Kyle has AIDS and I'm like no it's fine because the AIDS is only in this part of my blood the same thing same thing remotely the same no it is the same like this I only have AIDS my feet only my the feet in my blood the blood in my feet have AIDS but you know the rest of it hasn't but I am making perfect sense okay where did aids come from though there was a metaphor about three-cheese man it was a metaphor for mac and cheese which was a metaphor for the beer but he's gonna suffer the beer is the AIDS which is also the mac and cheese it's like the tricks the Holy Trinity and and toboggan happy birthday so happy birthday snow we love you okay we move on so Thank You Nathan bazinga ex five dollar donation Kyle is a Libra well it's stability sense of justice Kyle stable really so busy saying how stable really you're a Libra and you're stable Wow I'm much more stable one have no full copter October 18th here but 1960s a little older oh nice yeah you reppin reppin the what generations that make you if you're born in this in 1960 I don't know maybe are you the greatest generation no greatest generation older than that 1960 was 64 growing timelines baby boomers are between 46 and 64 yeah he's baby all right well thank you for saying uh for you for your donation that's very accurate I'll have you know about helping to heal the about me I am balanced and stable and I do have a sense of justice I'm basically Batman on a tightrope yes yes indeed uh cell said that's actually a very good cell cell just puts a suggestion here and I completely agree we should probably eat this off guys who have made donations your your donations aren't going anywhere but we're gonna address them on a second half of the show yep for now we're gonna cut off my half of the show with some quick shout outs to anyone who has bought stuff from us sure which I probably need to be logged into my oh where's my phone where's your phone Cal no it's fine I have I have three Johnson's to shout out Nathan H from West Virginia Johnson to you thank you very much I got the thumbscrew key cap and the 20 ounce English pub glass both great choices great selections miles be from Arizona also a Johnson for you the gaming mouse pad thumbscrew desk mat set the thumbscrew oxblood t-shirt after you popular and the tri-blend also thumbscrew t-shirt Thank You Myles and those treats are gonna be super soft and comfy for you finally Corwin Corwin G from Texas got the pub glass and a big old Johnson for you as well Corwin they you and may you drink many drinks out of it forever and ever yes Kyle any Johnson's let me know if there's any double Johnson's here Nathan Nathan H evolution getting this dad's dead CPU cooler King yeah that's bad as well this is perfectly right in between breaths and then we've also got a 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