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it's gonna be the second half of the show I'm gonna have a drink or two I'm gonna have to save this institude okay that'd be a good band name that were the vicissitude dudes assistant where the vicissitudes we're forming it now so starting on the plus side intel has announced recently just last week their quarter to second quarter of 2018 results they've set some records incidentally this was last Thursday 17 billion dollars in revenue for the first quarter of 2018 you've got people in your YouTube chat right I think so okay I think I saw someone who said maybe your YouTube wasn't whopping up or something I made its public great it should be public I mean everything as far as I'm aware of was was done properly according to okay it looks it looks like there's people in chat yeah we're good all right cool just making sure yes double check it right so Intel made a decent amount money in the first quarter of course they did they're into the 2018 but this is also part of the the industry as a whole doing well sure more people are now buying new computers there's a lot of people who were sort of getting by with computers that they got in like the mid-2000s mid to late 2000s who have now decided our industry upgrade people who were like alright I don't need a new computer anymore because I've got a smartphone or I've got a tablet or whatever who are like you know it's it's still good to have a desktop computer with some solid long-term storage you know yeah anything so Intel did pretty good in the first quarter it's what I'm trying to get at 17 billion in revenue 5 billion in net income which is pretty good amount that's 2.2 billion up you're over here if you look in it the same quarter a year ago if you're looking at quarter to quarter you're just comparing q1 to q2 they're at point nine billion so pretty much any way you look at it until had pretty good you know yeah do we have this revenue q2 revenue would be point nine billion less than q1 revenue oh really according to this they dropped down no they know they do better they did better in q2 than they did in q1 okay which isn't which isn't which is normal you know the Q one's not the best quarter for sales okay yeah sure their biggest concern right now is going to be the stalls development of their 10 nanometer process technology the cop the cannon lake step that we've talked about many different times here in the show but still in the realm of rumor and speculation there's there's only one real cannon Lake based product that's actually out on the market that launched this year more on that in just a sec though so yeah it's another detail in this article that we're gonna also loop back to is that Intel said cannon Lake products aren't expected to ship until 2019 which is next year and not just 2019 but the second half of 2019 so then there's a little bit of a disappointment but rich I stay positive here so here look at these charts you got I'm fine with that q1 2017 to q2 2018 q1 2018 to q2 2018 as you can see numbers looking pretty good but this is the vicissitudes of Intel though so Intel shares as far as their stock price actually slipped in this past week oh oh and this is based on fears of AMD data center chip challenges challenges met met by AMD aka competition so they previously had none of in this market yes so on Friday as the article reports Intel shares fell nine percent and this is after their positive reports as we just referred to in the first article we talked about why did the set up in the new went down the upbeat quarter two results were over shattered by concerns that AMD may be chiseling off market share from its high margin data center business and the data center business is pretty substantial profit and revenue beat Wall Street targets so Intel's like hey what Wall Street was predicting for us we actually did better than but double-digit growth in its data center chip business fell short of analysts expectations so they were looking for more growth in the data center space but they didn't see it there AMD meanwhile shares are up 8% Xeon basically from Intel has dominated the server and data center market for the past ten years or so but after a decade Andy has rent re-entered that business with the epic processors they've launched in the past year so they have been positively reviewed they have outperformed a Xeon processors and also provided better performance per dollar damn son which is really aimed he's like thinking that I cave made this processor it can do everything that the Intel processors do and it's less expensive that kind of thing catches on really anyway and and and at this point with all the Zen based stuff that AMD has launched there has been no like alright there's some you you you could you couldn't speak a little bit to like the specter stuff but that's affected both Intel and AMD arguably has affected Intel more right but there's been no like actually AMD these cheap processors you're selling have this like critical flaw and like you know nothing one time out of every hundred they spit out completely wrong big inches or whatever but like they do it so if there's competition then until it's going to lose market share day it's an AMD that just makes them short but AMD is also already sampling their 7 nanometre stuff sent seven nanometer processors which the Zen to based ships are supposed to be to be based on and we're still we've seen speculation that we might see Zen to based CPUs on their current and poor platform I'm not betting on that I'm not sure about that we don't know it's been a rumor and speculation well aim for is supposed to be a viable platform through 2020 so we're supposed to have a couple more years events but I could you know I could see them stretching out the rise and to stuff to be like right that's that's our aim for platform stuff and then in 2020 as a import is petering out they launch new platform or or maybe or maybe we will see 7 nanometre Xen 2 based CPUs that launched 10 are completely compatible with am Ford I'd be really cool and and a be 350 motherboard that you bought in 2017 will be upgradable to a10 core you know send to 7 nanometre base CPU in 2019 I've we don't know again if that'd be pretty cool if any we had to do indeed if you're watching and you can do that that'd be pretty bad bad STM to be doing you've given AMD lots of props for creating platform with an upgrade path and everything yeah if they do that too that's that's pretty freakin sweet so how much will the beam well out the wait and see of course what actually happens with that but the fact they're already sampling 7 nanometre processors based for epic for whatever the next generation of epic is as well as potentially generation stuff it's pretty impressive Intel meanwhile has their 10 10 nanometer stuff scheduled to hit the market next year 2019 not even later this year but next year how is this actually affected stuff if you're looking if you're if you're looking at the stocks this Intel stock let's look at the 5k oh there it is so the nine percent drop your top gear you're reading about in the articles right here from Thursday to Friday that's a big old cliff it dropped off it's been kind of petering around you know it hasn't recovered much I guess it's basically what you can say based on that meanwhile AMD wait let's look at Andy so it says 47 dollars right now yeah AMD meanwhile if you look at the five-day they had a nice jump nice jump back there so this is the big piece today and be got if you were a if you do stock trading and you were also following the tech market and you were anticipating this maybe you could have made a decent amount of money but we don't usually try to offer 2-minute too much in the way of stock tips we just note our Forte but the market does have an impact on the companies and development of products and everything so it's worth at least being a pre stuff so when that's and that's adapt that's a negative that's an overall negative for Intel butts but let's switch back this is the vicissitudes of Intel trying to stick with that vicissitudes indeed Z 390 by the way did you already know that word or did you like look it up I already knew that word of course you did I mean I assumed you did but it's like a word that I have never heard until today there's only you could have shed light on me that's a great word vicissitude yeah that's why like I want to find a situation where I can use it like throw it out there and casual conversation just see you let them just see what I see what people's responses use of life yeah just the vicissitudes really wearing me down lately I will I think we all will now Paul thank you you're welcome thank you so much alright so we've talked about Z 390 right now if you're buying Intel mainstream platform your highest end chipset is Z 370 word and Z 370 has been accused by more people than just us of being rushed being not as fully featured for example as the follow-up ships at chipsets that came like beef 360 which are theoretically lower end but include stuff like use 802 that 11 AC Wi-Fi and USB 3.1 gen2 so there's been various rumors and speculation as to what Intel is going to do with their highest end mainstream chipset if they're going to refresh it or what right now though we seem to have some some confirmation this is an an and tech article and this is information that asus has published which is a list of its upcoming motherboards powered by Intel's Z 290 chipset so there you go got the Maximus 10 hero the asus prime z 370 - right now that's that right so is e 390 basically just gonna have all the features that be 360 hats so that that's like one of the questions right now so either Z 390 so we talked about this I think a couple weeks ago I either z 390 is going to be a new chipset manufactured on a 14 nanometer process that includes all the features of Z 370 but also upgrades to include the features of you 360 um be 360 like a dojo lemon ACN and the USB 3.0 you got my shirt - or Intel is simply creating a new brand and a new SKU for a Z 390 and the chipsets themselves will still effectively be Z 370 chipsets but the motherboards will be required to include the features 802 the 11 AC Wi-Fi and USB 3.1 gen2 such of the user it doesn't really make a difference what it is they'll still theories right now if you're if you're looking into like benchmarking and stuff native chipset support for features like that will almost like in my experience always provide better better performance or you're talking about like the theories the two schools of thought right now is the 390 is either gonna be native chipset or add-on controllers yeah basically for all the things stapled on to it yeah so we don't know for sure but we also didn't know for sure like if they're gonna call it Z 390 or if they're just gonna call it Z 370 Gen 2 or something like that so for sure how they're going to go about this launch and branding stuff and what new CPUs are gonna be available and what chipsets or are going to be required for support for Gracie because we don't know yet but what we do know is that Asus has published this list of Z 390 motherboards which to me seems to indicate that Z 390 is going to be a chipset again variables surrounding that are in questions so we'll we'll wait and see but this is a pretty expansive list and the articles linked in the description all the articles I'm talking about - they're linked in the description if you guys want more info but on the ROG side we've got our G Maximus Rd Strix they actually have five families of other boards our G Maximus our G Strix tough prime and dragon dragon dragon I had an MS ice thing it does kind of seem like like it is but I don't know what so we don't know what dragon is maybe it's a maybe it's a new Asus push for like a budget entry-level option that has a cool name to convince people that it wouldn't that be like a low-key dis to MSI maybe our dragons our budget our cheapest century is basically the logo of maybe competitors interesting marketing and that's a completely viable possibility cap on the high-end side though for the RG we got the apex the code the extreme the formula the hero and the hero Wi-Fi which is capable glad to see that doing both an extreme and a formula but to see what actual feature sets these include on the strict side we have Z 390 - e gaming - F gaming and - H gaming and I'm sure these are gonna have you know a few extra features for each step up in the tier on the top side Z through 90 plus gaming how dare you say F gaming + gaming Wi-Fi and root of you I also said he gaming an H gaming calvo and the top c90 d3 90 pro gaming which is interesting for them though they put gaming and all these nevermind gaming isn't the name of course of course there's like they did it's like tough our brand for people who want like a long life span kings access whatever love a good for gaming those a little bit women gaming games to put the word gaming in add the word gaming more sales that's what happens we've got some XIII's 390 - a and - p on the prime side even some micro ATX and mini ITX options it looks like if you want mini ITX you'll have to go with the ROG Strix Z 390 - I gaming and then some micro ATX options for tough and prime so there you go not a whole lot of further details about these but this this veers towards like the more legitimate info dump for me so yeah my anticipated upcoming stuff from Intel right now includes it was e3 90 again which for a while I was thinking maybe they're gonna ditch that right but our actual it's official people excited for new Z 390 stuff but let's let's go back let's go back down we just rode we just rode the roller coaster off now we're gonna ride it back to the emotional roller coaster you're taking you some nano meter Kenlake processors have been delayed again until the second half of 2019 so some people were kind of excited this year because back in May two months back Canon link was actually available in a product from Lenovo actually they're IdeaPad 330 so your tablet laptop thing yeah it had a 10 nanometer Intel i3 8121 you processor and everyone was like oh my god good old mobile 10 10 10 nanometer it's gonna be awesome Intel's family got this figured out Intel has been developing 10 nanometer their tenant this architecture on the 10 nanometer process for a really long time yeah more time than you would usually expect we heard about it as far back as 2015 we've had launches promised as early as 2016 they were pushed back to 2017 and 2018 and now we're hearing 2019 and not just 2019 but the second half of 2019 so coffee lake 14 nanometer is what we're expecting to see from Intel for the time being for the rest of this year and it seems like also most of next year crazy on the mainstream platform raise a that does seem a little crazy given how long it's been in development now assuming I have like some my stance on this my view of this is like right if Intel's really gonna be telling us right now in July of 2018 that this stuff is coming at the end of 2019 then it seems like they're hopefully pretty confident in that especially given it's been development for so long so hopefully this is at least an accurate assessment of when products based on this meant when CPUs based on this manufacturing process are actually going to be available you would think you would think but I mean who knows it's it's still over a year off so yeah not only are we talking the second half of 2019 so second half of 2019 could be as early as one year from now July Birk be as late as a year and a half from now December do you think to fill that gap since 10 nanometers being delayed even further that Intel will have some family of CPUs that builds upon like the 9000 series even like now yeah yeah they're absolutely about to launch another generation of GB lake 14 nanometer + + + + I'm sorry coffee coffee like coffee like yeah coffee like second copy Lake mark - weird I got plus plus plus they've been really like they've been riding the 14 nanometer Shane for so long now it's because they've been able to without yeah I know much competition from the CPU side until Verizon's taken off and now they're like holy shit we gotta have get our shit together I feel like they've been just like they've been like Intel's just been coasting until just been coasting until AMD finally lit a fire under their ass and they're like oh shit we need to like reinvent the wheel now again like we had been in the past we got awakened off her ass in this department the thing that's confused me and that has continued to kind of baffle me was that I feel I felt like Intel was so far ahead that whatever Intel whatever AMD did come out with Intel would be like alright we've had this in a black pocket for the past year that we just one-up them instantly here you go here's that here's a better product right but that doesn't seem to be the case it does seem to be like Intel was focusing on other areas or diverse buying rate which which is fine you know like that's a business's decision that they could make but now that AMD has come back with some viable architecture and with seemingly a multi-year plan to move forward with that architecture and refine it and develop new ones and to shrink their process architecture down because they've got seven nanometer stuff in the work now and the works now um until it really seems to be going from being far ahead to either trying to keep up or almost playing catch-up to some degree but we'll have to see what happens at the end of this year all that said yeah z 390 does seem to be in the works and for now 10 nanometers stuff we shouldn't expect until what Intel is saying the holiday timeframe of next year so does that mean October or December I don't know but the holiday timeframe is a good time to launch stuff I just wish it was this year instead of next year word this information was revealed via Intel executives and a conference call with analysts earlier or last week I should say and there's also server based 10 nanometer Xeon chips that are in development those are expected to follow shortly after the mainstream consumer counterparts but that does mean that 10 nanometer Xeon stuff could be pushed out as far as 2020 and as we were already discussed anybody's kind of knocking on the door with their epic chips so going back to the final back and forth with the vicissitudes of Intel AMD has announced their cue to 2018 results kind of like what we started this hat this app with talking about Intel cute suits 1:18 for AMD was the best quarter in seven years now just to clarify and provide a bit of context compared to Intel their numbers are much much smaller we're talking about one point seven six billion dollars in revenue right which is a lot unless you compare it to Intel billion or something Intel was over they again 17 billion Oh 17 17 okay 17 billion versus one point so about 10 times she's much yeah but AMD is clawing their way back whereas Intel is in a position of market dominance for quite some time relevant but this amount of revenue is the greatest revenue that and the AMD has had in quite some time it beat there seasonally strong quarter for from last year so the fact that in q2 of this year they're reading q4 of last year pretty crazy it's pretty impressive and it even beat the cryptocurrency fueled q1 of this year which included a lot of excessive GPU sales due to cryptocurrency excitement that's that's really good because it shows that it has longer legs than just some cryptocurrency hi that is very volatile and just and and the fact that AMD's like this positive news about AMD was enough to tank Intel's market until stock price by 9% yeah it's problems you know it's pretty it's pretty telling when it comes to the potential that AMD or recouping even more market share just by the very fact that they have a viable product to sell which is cool that's a fifty three percent jump in revenue year four am the quarterly sequential basis if you're comparing q1 to q2 a 7% increase and their profits and gross margins are both up their net income rose by heaven 58 million year-over-year 216 million soddin 58 million increase is because they were actually negative 42 million a year ago so a lot of this is pretty cool because it looks a lot of the sort of long-term planning that AMD has done when it comes to their development of Zen but it's cool to see it actually playing out in a positive way for them yeah and competition of course is good for consumers so we everyone wins we we're in favor of it stepped in to accept Intel just not able to charge $350 for a four core processor anyway alright alright let's move on with you the next next segment which is sort of a third fight that's real right we're watching this this series for legitimate technical information it's cutting off now you can stop watching everyone leave there's nothing further like I don't know how much we provided up to this point there's nothing further technical information is to be provided at this point we're just having fun asking some questions of the audience and of course sword fight where Kyle and I argue about something and we try to convince you of one thing or another okay I have two questions we're gonna ask you guys today I can't wait to argue first question it's pretty important one oh yeah for anyone building their own computer which is what's the best the best type of PC cooling no what do you think I have more options here to choose from thank you cell thank you so process cell processing our moderator posting links and he's you know what after after my experience with the elite build just having to deal with it like the elite bill didn't even leak it didn't even like it was a perfectly functioning CPU cooling loop but it was just such a pain to drain both of those loops as a dual loop system to paint a drain having to drain the minutes like a 200-pound system and as a daily driver if we're if we're talking about this question as a system we're referring to as a daily driver something that you're using day in and day out air cooling just air why would anyone put liquid in a baby like you basically read my mind and those are my eggs were my exact thoughts as I was draining the elite build thinking to myself why did I build this $12,000 PC to have liquid in it when I'm used when I'm planning to use it every day and if something any one thing were to go wrong with it it would be a whole day's worth of troubleshooting and draining and and just a mud fucking pain in the ass quite frankly excuse my french but it's just true cooling your chair just to clarify here I'm choosing air okay because air is literally close to zero risk if not absolutely zero risk and you know we're all we're all just too busy these days we're all just too damn busy to deal with the liquid yeah I get it you get to break some World Records and overclock to little delay to the CP that's great I'm gonna call me an old man but I I've lost the affinity for you know just extravagant just you have it get cooling solutions you mix your red ale with your with you stout I didn't hot just this is natural color I considered it but I was a sheriff it in the end decided against it okay so just just freaking cool it on air again this is just there's just my opinions for the swordfight I'm still using the elite Bowl to edit even the CPUs overheating no need to dream again yeah that's awkward I don't know just just a little bit with the deal alright so Kyle chose what I would probably have chosen tell me how is what I think the answer will be about me not at all what I think will be the second answer which will be all in one liquid cooling that's right Kyle your air cooling is dick Aeolus inadequate dick you won't fully insubstantial and also indicates that your might be lacking in the manhood area is just just slightly because obviously you don't have the balls to go all out with liquid cooling now obviously custom water cooling is an expense that most of us can't afford exotic cooling I mean come on let's be reasonable nobody can maintain that over a long period of time if you're trying to build a computer that you're actually gonna use but if you want the best combination of cooling costs and lack of maintenance then you're gonna want just some hog one liquid coolers Kyle yeah your cpu on your air cooling is on max load it's gonna be running it 70 or 80 degrees Celsius while I'm running in a nice cool like 48 completely false yeah I'm full load on all my cores whatever helps you sleep at night with my own one liquid cooler lying back plenty of GPUs available as well right now with the almond liquid cooler built into it just position your radiators and efficiently cooling positions around your case the sickness spreads false information that's all the segment is just false you just false information ever no it's completely legitimate okay everyone using all my liquid coolers we're obviously going to be voting in the straw poll they're going to agree with me just before they inevitably leak and damage all of their precious hardware all of on liquid coolers don't leak I'll see it now oh never happens okay okay before just to give you guys a few more moments to to vote if you want to in the straw poll we're going to jump ahead and quickly go over this next draw poll perhaps a little bit less serious but no no that's comport --nt but all the more important so obviously being a tech youtuber very very competitive and obviously you have lots of other people but you compete with and you want to always do better than them so you can prove that you're a better tech youtuber right so if you are a tech youtuber you size up the other tech youtubers and try to figure out like maybe could I take that guy maybe I could the question here is less about the one-on-one fight though and more about these your teacher to teacher ease to teacher you and the ruthless the ruthless like cut through cold now I didn't miss that's required short for a free-for-all we're talking battle royale motor here yeah Oh fortnight all these tech youtubers get dropped into a massive arena and find it out to the death I'm assuming there's lethal weapons available to them of course maybe maybe some some alliances are made maybe there's some back stabbing stabbing involved it seems like it would make an excellent battle right now but if anyone makes this movie my director and produces by Paul's battle royale teched-out yeah it took that right just go with that okay so I answered the first question I think so you you you guessed this one first okay I will get first go on this but first before that let's take a look at the responses for the best type of PC cool and the type of PC cooling that you should use to cool your PC at home clearly air cooling anyone lays it wrong but wow I'd be you my low percents let the record show that my over the straw poll I was winning by one percent that's impressive there though just saying that is very cool we have a 3 volt difference here 38 percent to 39 percent three whole votes baby Kyle did get them winning response I so did but I'm pressed with all my a i/o users out there cuz anyone would have been my second choice and anyone who actually though that was my my only saving like Isaac right is actually using an olive wood liquid cool it's gonna vote that after of course yeah play it on the fanboy ISM that's that's pretty hard there and those popular yeah no I mean I use an a I owe myself and but I still lost technically so you did drink up I'll take a drink of my beer alright so the second question was who would win in a tech fight brawl free-for-all did you I didn't choose it okay you choose first its first right and even better maybe we would we could decide who would boil down to the only two the two remaining the quota would come down to it so we'll both choose right now we'll see what the answer is trip and then the final two about to make a new straw poll okay then you can do that sure I figure that okay so I am gonna say alright I'll be honest here my final two the two the two that I'm debating between here and this is this is I mean we're talking about a physical battle here sure obviously strength size and strengths are gonna play just belt it out a major factor so I'm I am on the fence between Wendell and J okay that's that's who I'm but you have to pick one all right so I'm gonna go with J okay he has more he has more YouTube subscribers I think you think it might be making actors into his strength I got it you know you're stronger I gotta play the strategy here okay you know yeah who might who might be involved in everything so okay what what's your what's your thought on that um J would have been my first pick - just from his sheer size range he's he's a strong he's also he's very strongly opinionated and they feel like he's the first to defend like anything he stands up for he's very opinionated and very strong-willed as he's demonstrated on his YouTube channel on his Twitter account he's very like he doesn't take shit from no one and I feel like a personality personality like that is generally backed up with with a bite it's not just bark but there's bite to it as well I feel like Jay definitely has the bark and the bite to fit with Jay there's a slightly higher chance that he might be armed he could very well have a gun and kill someone which is very likely but assuming that I can't take Jay because you already had that picked huh I would have picked Randall as my second pick too but I feel like that's now a cop-out because you've already said him so I would go with the second pick and say jeez it's a it's a crapshoot at this point and see what the other ones are I'm gonna say Steve from gamers Nexus I feel like Steve has a lot of vigor and strength and he he also like Jay does not take shit from people I've seen them in the comments he's maybe a bit more diplomatic with how he says it but he does not take shit from no one and I realize that's a double negative thank you he's resourceful he's quite resourceful again he could call upon his minions so I'm gonna say Steve GN all right I'm creating the pool are we welcome oh oh oh sorry we're gonna see what people actually okay say ok and then we'll narrow down we're gonna take a look at the results right now guys thank you all for voting for those who have drew win of course Steve or Steve gets seconds all right so I was at least the best I could have been attached never commutative yeah I couldn't picture you so and then Luke got three look up I would have guessed Luke Luke appiah would have guessed the beat Lyoness he is of course is larger and way bigger than Luke - and less of an all the way down here is way stronger Bieber Bieber Bieber with the 4% per a burr but but see this this whole voting system what this jerk would be inverted if it was like who'd be the nicest that's true Ebert and this whole thing would be inverted aquila Bieber still exists of all the youtubes here yeah Austin Steve this is pretty hey it would be the least nice he's the least nice did you dick hole Jay I thought Luke might be higher as a nice list I fit yeah yeah definitely higher than - it just goes to show that strength does not correlate directly with with next message so yeah refresher your Jay still winning with 33% of the votes all right Kyle's gonna make a final vote yeah between Jay and Steve so Jay versus Steve guys this is the this is the final battle for all the marbles in the meantime he's gonna post that in chat we're gonna go over some what do we do first Q&A yes getting so so some questions have been asked this this is from the first half hold on all right here we go pull that go here just go in and chat all right tal's posting that link in chat free up those of you who want to to vote right now in the meantime mr. Richter donated $20 and did not post a comment Thank You mr. wick for your $20 donation much appreciated you filthy casual donated $5 she said how about a 1/2 to you Mini ITX monster build because rackmount well why not I feel like if your rack mounting why why would you limit yourself to Mini ITX if you're recommending true that's that's kind of my stance is counter-intuitive micro ATX I feel like is a popular rec melt form factor with a little bit more expansion and more practicality yeah so the head that's where I would come come from for that honestly I haven't really done much in rec Mountain at all but I feel like a standard rackmount sizes all right a little bit bigger so I feel like I feel like the Mini ITX limitation might be yeah but yeah I'll try to keep that in mind maybe maybe I'll consider a rack Mouse build in the future that'd be cool yeah bazinga X $15 pulp for almost making it through Kyle's Laser laser versus fire laser the Jam the lady's vagina rant intercepts thank you for seeing X that was you know I always appreciate what I'm able to laugh that much and I was a pretty good laugh I was like we knew - that's good luck I have no regrets on that glad I got mbmb 67 mister lenticular with the 1337 the leap donation Paul just curious how well is the tesla powerwall doing choose the tesla powerwall is doing a great job making sure that I make a take advantage of every single little bit of solar power that is sucked up by my solar panels that said it's generating about 30 wait wait wat our mega ye kilowatt hours gosh whatever kWh I'm saying the wrong number right here but it's generating about 30 and I'm using about 40 to 50 so I am not covering my electricity usage right now but it's helping up to a degree but it is certainly helping I'm using a lot less than I would have otherwise and then this is the time of year when according to the charts they gave me when they sort of plot it out it's cuz it's summer and it's really hot you're entitled summer so I'm using more than and generating right I'll make that back but that's easy and in the in the middle months when I'm when it's cooler yeah but yeah I'm I've been doing some capturing of the actual usage as it goes along and I do it I do plan a follow-up video at some point in the next few weeks or months probably the world deserves to know okay beautiful John II shall let's this July thank you giant with a 10 euro donation got a secondhand Vega 56 never worked previous owner must have bricked it anything I can do ATF flash vault find it thanks and keep it up but love you both choose from Greece uh Johnny that's that's a tough call sell it to someone who thinks it's still work if you're getting zero recognition from software that might recognize it I'm guessing you're using a different graphics card and installing that as a secondary graphics card and seeing if you can just recognize it at all the oven trick maybe but that's really an outside possibility but if you have a piece of hardware that's not working at all anyway the oven trick is basically like look up some details on it but basically put it in the oven you heat it up enough to the point where some of the solder might get a little bit softer and that might help to reconnect some of the solder points on it if that's something that actually caused the graphics card to fail in the first place other than that I don't know what to tell you but I hope you're able to get that working again because if they get 56 is a very solid graphics card but sync X $5 Paul when will you get on to the office and wagon Jake I'll tech Jesus gamers Nexus now all have an office I don't have any current plans to get an office because honestly I like working from home yeah I know it's kind of weird it's not but I like my garage I like working from home I like working on stuff that I think will improve my home environments and you have dogs and I have more of that planned in the future I'd have dogs so if that helps tremendous to 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issue maybe one of your sticks of RAM it's probably not your processor but I would I would at least hold that out for very late in the potential like like you know getting rid of that as a a point of failure options but what you're gonna really need to do is get replacement hardware for the potential points of failure that you can test with in order to make in order to see if you can eliminate your random reboots which means getting a different graphics card that you can install and play with for a while and still get the random reboots ok different power supply it's kind of you can install power supply is a very potential very high on the list of potential failure points here it's it's probably a seven year old unit 2hx it's an H x-series unit HX 1200 is a very solid power supply and next I just mean if he's been using it for the last seven years that's all okay okay so yeah you're good on your troubleshoot is really what you're gonna want to do find a replacement part that you know works in a completely different system swap it in see if you still get that that failure point that restart and then swap in something else so you can try individual sticks of RAM you can run your system on a single stick of RAM no problem and and I wish you the best of luck in narrowing down what's causing you issues because I completely sympathize with to you about losing your effing mind with that what's a build like that and that kind of issues okay should we cut off donations because they keep flowing in we have they complain page left oh my god we got to get through these guys so we're gonna have to give you shorter responses so we can't come off but please don't donate any more I guess we appreciate it was that we can't all right fulfill bite my bits $5 donation realized I haven't tickled your wallet in a while so coming through to say hi also hail excess sing me a song song song song network I don't know I've been fine I've never tried to hey Alexa but thank you by my bits for your federal donation you awesome March 10 euros he says you're awesome 4770k 980ti 16 gigs of ddr3 excuse me can achieve 60fps + but I'm quite sensitive to FPS fluctuations so far she is vsync but the lag is sometimes all too real how good is g-sync free sync march amazing it's awesome you have a pretty solid configuration that doesn't necessarily need an upgrade right now so I would seriously look into like a Jason you might need to pay a decent amount like five hundred bucks plus but like at 1440 g-sync monitor would be a great pairing with your situation worth it which would give you G sync across everything but your 980ti and some games is going to be able to push 100 plus frames per second and you'll be able to see that and in some situations you might get down to 50 60 FPS which with vsync would cause it to drop to 30 FPS but what do you think we'll maintain in the 50 60 FPS range and would totally give you a better experience and also provide you a nice upgrade stepping stone to the next level because a 1440 g-sync monitor would still be a nice pairing with like a 1080 TI right yeah okay cool I mean unless you're you could also opt for maybe a fake up graphics card and go for a free sync panel that would be another option up swap your 980ti for like an RX 580 and get a free sync panel that might be less expensive also a viable option for you word okay I'll have their reviews five dollar donation Congrats again under 800 K subs Paul thank you thank you mr. Jeff I appreciate that by the way if you guys aren't already entered I have a giveaway going on on my channel go to my 800 K subscriber video and you can click on the gleam entry link and you can enter to win actually there's gonna be eight winners for lots of different things including in GT X 1080 but El Jefe says cracked open a drake's double IPA and your honor sir cheers premier boy Fe well I'll choose peers right back at you they'll have a thank you thanks man next we have Nathan Hardy $5.00 received email today the game stops doing away with their elite membership kyle any time frame on your Dan case build I'd like anyone also I have not received any further updates from the Dan case and when it's gonna be arriving it should be here within the next two to three weeks and then I'll probably like I want to get that project done as soon as the case comes in probably within that same week so it'll be on flow plane for a week so I would say maybe within a month to a month and a half they'll see a Dan case a four build pretty soon on the channel I cannot wait I cannot wait it's gonna be freaking awesome you know I you guys know I get a hard-on for small form-factor bills so I'm excited Wow Kyle Jesus oh my god wait wait how did that even happen Oh God hold on he's gonna get it freakin no Jesus I'm gonna undo the Oh God oh there's so much beer there's so much blood oh no okay this is not a prank party foul yes clip it clip it oh my god here we go again another spill yep okay so we're gonna we're gonna benchmark the waterproofness or the beer proof ness of the msi gs70 a good sport yeah we'll give me a new one oh my god oh my god my no no it's the bottoms dry it should just the keys it's just the keys that are see it's just the keys the only most important thing about a laptop is its keyboard oh my god seeing it first I'm like oh haha Kyle potentially has ruined just his equipments and then I was like wait no this is my my set hey you know I spilled beer all over my 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from El Jefe yes that's all out all right I'll have faith posted some extra things think so jefe we don't have time so sorry ahem hey but thank you so much for your donation we have to move on des Jones $10 donation hey guys do you think there will be a refresh on the current gen-x 399 motherboards if so do you think they'll be available at launch of Turner / for Gen 2 really hoping for a refresh of the xc-99 em by as rocky does Jones those are very very good questions thank you for your donation none of which we have answers to bazinga x5 tarnation God look the coolie works if you know what you're doing oh that's harsh Asher harsh man shut up bazinga lol J would be ashamed of you Wow my god well you know what James J Jay is ashamed of all of us really it would only be ashamed of himself his Jay talk Kyle everything he knows so calstrs up it means Jay screws tell you ensure if L that's I'm self-taught mother effort okay I have not really learned anything it's all just been by trial by fire but you know what you know what bazinga X Wow all I gotta say is well that's okay you know what I've made some great videos off of my water-cooling successes and failures all the same and I feel like being able to show an audience what not to do is equally valuable as showing them what to do so in many ways you're welcome and I stand by that statement sounds reasonable to me damn right is this it Kumi Nakajima it could mean done video but the $10 donation says Linus because he cheats this is in the tech youtuber well of course what does that even mean he was saying Linus would win the tech youtuber brawl because he cheats I forgot to set that up as well by the way the reason Kyle and I weren't on the list was cuz Kyle and I are supposed to be presiding over this entire write worthy judges we're up there being the audience and like giving the thumbs-up two thumbs down all the youtubers down below us fighting sure to the death but that makes sense but that said we're the gatekeepers it Kumi I actually believe you're correct and Linus - escheat okay although he was number four on the list his cheating would have taken him to at least number but 42 votes at 8% of the overall total I do think Linus stirred treachery would probably have at least come close to being number one he's like little thing you might not have actually won because obviously treachery Jacob sat on but yeah you know he's smirking I could be Nakajima with another $5 donation but Lew plays hockey and is very tough - maybe my real answer blue didn't score very high on our shirt he was only got 16 votes but I think he would stand a good chance I think he would stand a good chance he's a tough guy he does his Canadian does play hockey he being the rank of the top three here yeah so he'd definitely be out Linus it's just a mercy it's a popular vote so we can't McKenzie flash yeah unknown text for 99 I vote lightest because he would hide under a table and then stab the winner in the back you're absolutely correct - tats here on the back especially after they've poured their heart and soul into a competition see you can build the best computer on Craigslist on Craigslist after you know and then and then just cheat their way just be like hey revoke these these rules that we instructed you to follow at the beginning they only apply to you and us we will not follow them then we'll hold them against we will cheat ourselves and then when you commit the most minor of errors which we will which didn't affect here your scores at all right we'll somehow claim that you fired forfeiting your here win for that and claim the victory for ourselves Oh once better at all all whilst using our own name and brand to get the best deals on executor Hardware that we claim is most innocently decided by bet Hey but April Bonet that dude that recognized Linus didn't give him any good deals no not at all did my girls like shit out of his brain nope at all when deciding those prices clearly after realizing who Linus was did not ever give him a break in the slightest on deals and just said yeah my boss is gonna be cool with all this Thank You ntek for your four dollars and then you appreciate it next donation from Andrew Swire five dollars Canadian any news on that CPU I sent also HTTP see Andrew you seem to be touching on the projects that I have that are ongoing that are the least likely to have any progress made on them however that said that's egg it's my my laptop still working I can't help there's your processor Brandeis there's your processor hey what are you doing with it it has a piece of blue tape on it it says 6600 K from Andrew SH wire to test schwa yeah if that's not as good as mean testing it and actually telling you whether or not it's functional I don't know what could what could be better I mean there's a piece of tape on it identifying what it is and what's to be done with it what more do you need my work is done you rest this case but thank you Andrew and as for the HTPC it'll be done when I freakin ready for if he did it to be done you told him it you tell him and be a man thank you shove it down their throats next donation two years from JD from JD $5.00 you hey Paul what's come out with this GPC we're going on to you it's not two years it's one year in one year no one here as soon as you pass C but city passed one year doesn't immediately make it two years okay but seeing one year at this point on the internet if you've gone that long without something people will just immediately believe anyone who says I know didn't spend 10 years feel like god husband ten years McLean right here and now and call it project is not dead it husband does that that is functional and using it it has been 10 you and I have all plans I have plans for what's gonna happen well yeah you see this way do you even care about you fans it will happen when I'm ready for it to happen okay all right JD with your with your $5 donation if money that you gave to me thank you all or hand thank you thank you so much people Kevin Guzman $5 donation does upgrading a be 350 motherboard to a be 450 make any sense not really yeah Kevin unless you really really hard up for like AMD sense mi which is available reported serious stuff but my previous stuff like not really no no maybe there's a little bit better memory compatibility but if you already have a memory kit that's working for you three thousand and thirty two hundred to do all the things yeah it's all the same probably not if you're buying new if you're buying something brand new right now I was long ago for then you should look at both of them if you can get a really good deal on a be 350 motherboard that has good power delivery then I might go for it but the be 450 stuff because it's new might make a little bit more sense right now if you're buying new right Nathan Hardy wait you already donated up here great double in the donation that didn't he I don't know maybe that thanks nerdy would that go she was skeptical where is it oh I miss girl $5 donations received an email today that game stop is doing away with their elite membership Kyle this is that suppose we repeated any timeframe that's it this is repeats yeah yeah I was right oh you're right you're totally but that's weird and we couldn't see it earlier finally Jason Kristoff $19.99 sleeps and no comment so Jason Christophe thank you for your donation he'll to the yeah I hope you have great success and both everything in the future of your bone reserve one last donation in here from mattock Ogden $5 New Zealand good asking about the HTTP see I've already said everything I can say about the HTTP see ah we want more and again for a computer that's completely functional and doing everything I have asked it to do why are people asking me for some kind of follow-up it's it's working you're the one who just because I never mounted it to a piece of wood okay I want the wood palm know I know I want to do that I really know what's good 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