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12th to 14th at 12th to 16th so it's going on for a couple more days I bet - we'll be there humping but at the beginning of this events Nvidia CEO Jensen Wong Jensen unveiled some details about the rumored next-generation GPU architecture which is called touring article where referencing is from PC PC and all of these articles are linked in the video description if you guys want to check them out read them in more detail so touring is actually the successor to volta which so just to clarify here pascal is what current generation nvidia graphics cards based on gtx ten series like 1080 1070 and so on Volta has been out for a little bit but it's only been available in like some Quadro based cards so you can't really get Volta architecture for like in a gaming graphics card touring is a follow up to that so if what is being discussed about here is true then it seems like maybe they have leapfrog Volta when it comes to mainstream graphics nerds and are going with turing for that but it's like in totally leapfrog to broad will yes you're right very similar that but all we really have from Nvidia right now is what they talked about at SIGGRAPH which is that Turing is a thing and it is coming out in the form of some new Quadro RT RT x graphics cards not GTX but RT X 5,000 6,000 at 8000 series straight Radeon technology extreme it's what exactly these are doing q4 of 2018 so fourth quarter of this year here they hear the actual skews and everything pretty impressive when it comes to like specs and stats and everything 16 gigs of memory on the lowest n1 24 and 48 gigs VP you can add to that MV link connected memory and then they have some ray tracing specs here but we'll come back to that in just a minute these are so so Turing is based on two engines they have RT cores which is a new thing which are specific ray tracing cores and then they have tensor cores and these are kind of like the engines that the power this machine of what is touring that's separate from the actual CUDA cores so the actual as streaming multiprocessors are separate from these two things so there's a lot of questions floating around right now about I mean well obviously the performance of Turing but these like the r18 ray-tracing and tensor cores and the other steps that they're including here what sort of strata of cards will be available what which of these technologies will be available at which different steps when that comes out ends are they gonna actually call graphics cards RTX and not GTX anymore but more than that in just a second touring when it comes to the information that in nvidia has actually come out with is it has these arty cores which are ray tracing cores and ray tracing seems to be something that's are pushing towards in the future which I'm a fan of because ray tracing his purpose is is traditionally not traditionally but ray tracing is like the most effective way of rendering an image you're taking a light source you're tracking where the actual beams of light from that like each ray of light and how they were where it's going soft how it's bouncing off of different objects or materials whether it's reflective or not reflective so you're not just getting the light source and how its lighting a subject but how its bouncing on the ax a genuine off with the wall and back onto that subject and Ray Ray traced simulations are just always the most realistic and you you know they look they look like real life a lot of that time a lot of the lighting techniques that are used when it comes to to graphics engines and everything are kind of faked to some extent sure so would it be fair to say that like when you're playing a game it's like okay you get the graphics of the games like oh yeah like the game that you're playing has a certain level of graphical fidelity but then like the game will cut to a cutscene where the cutscene this looks so much nicer yeah and more realistic than the game you were just playing would it be fair to say that that's one of direct results of ray tracing what's being rendered if the game you're talking about is capable of that of rendering then they might have used ray tracing in a render that took you know hours or days on a system in order to output a scene right with that level of detail versus the real-time rendered scenes of like you know that yeah as you're playing the game or something like that it's like what I'm saying is like that's the direction we're headed with yes graphics like because of the technologies like ray tracing and that's like so the demos that they were showing at SIGGRAPH were like oh here's this demo you guys thought this was a pre-rendered thing this is actually being rendered live right now I'm retracing in real time which I never like oh my gosh so yeah they're arty cores in these these touring based GPUs can apparently are according to Nvidia do rate calculations at up to 10 Giga rays per second new geekery I knew a new phrase or measurement that I have not heard before but Giga Ray's per second but according to them it's 25 times the performance of the current Pascal architecture so that's cool cheering also features an all-new design for the traditional streaming multi processor or SM GPU units and that is what we are more traditionally familiar with when it comes to kuduk or counts and that kind of thing on graphics cards changes include an integer execution units executing in parallel with a floating-point data path which I thought was kind of interesting and the new unified cache architecture with double the bandwidth of the previous generation so that's cool these new quad rail cars can have up to four thousand six hundred and eight CUDA cores for the highest-end one the Quadro r-tx 8000 so if you combine the compute power of the CUDA cores the RT cores the tensor cores you get the total GPU compute capability which is up to sixteen teraflops again according to Nvidia at this SIGGRAPH events and sixteen trillion integer operations per second which is I'm pretty insane so again these are quadrille cards so we're expecting these to be more expensive they're designed for production stuff and the type of thing that gamers are usually less than interested when it comes to the two they're not a sec same two CPUs but they're very sexy if you are doing game development or something done they're very if you can take if you can take advantage of Quadro cards cards this is a this is some pretty fun stuff and touring the foundation of this these new GPUs is a new architecture for graphics cards which could very well be applied towards other things which segues into the next bit which is another video this is a king or guru article but this is a you know a teaser video that Nvidia also played at the event and the it's called before the game before the game which is just kind of just like kind of like it's not after the game it's before the game and at first you're looking at this and you're like wow this is just a little kind of promotional video people building computers and using graphics cards and everything but no no my friends not just a 57 second video but rife with with hidden messages Easter eggs and more so the video itself is embedded in the article on cake guru but oh what's that Roy tag Roy Tex RTX as the capital letters and that so obviously there's someone named Roy in Texas who knows who's really buff about the Nvidia the upcoming Nvidia graphics card these are just small clues small clues you know peppered throughout the video yep and we as discerning you know end users can can watch this and perhaps derive information from it but rather than doing this yet ourselves I'm gonna go and totally co-opted Brian's so there's been there have been rented articles on this they've been full articles on this videos posted on YouTube about this because this is all stuff from like the past 24 hours or so sergeant ballistic no Brian are who apparently has now also changed this background to just all green Brian you're drinking the kool-aid too much but anyway so NVIDIA GeForce in this video seems to have peppered in many many references will Easter eggs Easter eggs we don't we don't know for sure if any of this is actually true but what is he seeing here right yeah these are coordinates these are coordinates right here a key right a lot of t says here here those coordinates point to Cologne Germany which is where Gamescom is taking place next week sure all right all right follow that here's some of the one screencap of some of the texts we already saw Roy Tex obviously what it's Texas how is Texas involved so curious about that I didn't know he says he says you getting on and give me 20 give me 20 is the response so this is something significant about 20 also the other text this is also screen cap from the video Mack 20 is your is having a conversation with 18 80/20 80/20 80/20 18 harassed and like r2d2 or c-3po 2018 2018 obviously a new droid they're referencing these are the droids right X with another conversation with another person not 11 not oh that seems a little bit more specific no so yeah and then and then apparent so Nvidia also tweeted earlier today just this wait no this just a big green square called be for the game which is using stenography which is a type to steno graphically hide images inside the lower bits of other images stamina graphene systematic Ghana Ghana graphene so you can look in that and you can find that there's a hidden quote in the green that says those who can imagine anything can create the impossible by Allen turning Allen turning Oh Turing loss relative to Alan Turing oh that's just the type of they know that but Brian thank you for gathering all this quite a few other people catch the at the very end of that teaser oh yeah the end of the teaser we should we should play that yeah we're just another where to go another clue so the end of the teaser right at the where is it the three fifty three seconds mark here you might notice that's a seder of which oh wait those numbers okay people can't see anything right now all right so these numbers here they're saying V for the game cologne I mean that's a little bit more specific than they hidden coordinates I guess so these numbers that pop up right here people are looking at watch the order that they pop in two zero eight zero that is the order let's let's let's jump back yep zoom in enhance two two zero eight zero yep that's pretty straightforward yeah I mean that's C I think that's the nail in the coffin that's like it seems pretty intentional and if you ask me yep so obviously some indications of pointing towards Cologne where SIGGRAPH except at Masseria where where where Jamie's film is happening next week references to the number two zero eight zero not eleven eleven yeah you know was there RTX reference oh yeah the Roy Roy Tex yes Roy Tex all right with your would indicate or somehow a mysterious connection with Texas we're not sure what the Lone Star State has to do with all of this information here buttons I'm sure I'll be revealed eventually as time progresses there's nothing to be with pollen eyes travel arrangements in the next coming exactly oh yeah speaking of games come we're going there for no apparent no coincidence at all we just happen to be but I guess Germany a little getting into Germany thing speaking of r-tx RTX 2080 the Turing GPU as it is being called on this WCF tech article apparently he has had some ashes of the singularity benchmarks leaked out WCF tech this is leaked information this is obviously probably completely false and fake and nobody should Baney any heater attention to it but all that said ashes of the singularity has a database an online database and when you run the tests if you so choose and your internet connected you can upload the results of your test to that database noise so a dude on Twitter his name is tomb APIs happy sack to UM be sent to mapaseka must be sacked there is there you go way to go tomb he spotted this information and it's picked up by w CCF sec so they go over in the article reasons why they think this information is legitimate obviously we cannot confirm or deny such information but the profile the results were submitted under is NV g TL test 0:09 there's another user test in the same GPU with the name nvg TL test 0:07 so i don't know it's a sequential testing names of the systems might indicate some level of reliability here the device ID as recognized in the test results is very subtle and and engineered for obscurity I couldn't even see it and they screen caps they have here but I think it's in one of the tabs what they have under there mmm here's a profile up there with the nvidia envy GTL Tessio 51 FPS and crazy settings at 5k is nuts yes so this game family WCCO tech points out that if you're submitting test results to the ashes of the singularity database it is not incredibly difficult to fake a device ID but it is very challenging to fake the results yeah and the results that seem to be the submitted are pretty impressive including just shy of 79 frames per sec I'm sorry this is the crazy 5k test which came in at a 51.3 fps that's pretty crazy and then there is the this one which is the 4k crazy test which came in at just shy of 79 frames per second I believe there's a typo in the article actually that's also a crazy the article says 69 but I believe it's just shy of 79 that's nuts yeah he also seems to reference different scores besides a little screen caps here so I'm not completely sure of the details but again feel free to read the article if you guys want a little bit more on that even if this is true those are better scores than what the Titan V gets but he said and other iterations of the sessions however the r-tx 20/80 falls just behind the Titan V baseline regardless if the next-gen graphics card is performing on some equivalent level with the Titan B that's cool yeah that's you know for significantly less money that way yeah well I mean hopefully if they go by what they've done in the past many years and they released not a TI level not the highest end card but something in the mid ring we would hope it would be in the five to six hundred dollar range yeah and we'll see what actually comes out there but all this talk about art TX and GTX has been a little bit confusing so that's that's like what I've been trying to wrap my head around as far as the naming what they're actually going with rumors versus what's actually coming out are they going to revise the GTX name or the again as GTX now going to apply to the lower end graphics cards and r-tx is going to reference the higher end graphics cards are they going to take this new technology like the ray tracing and the artificial intelligence stuff that's built in Lord yeah is that gonna be across the border is it gonna be like something you paid for for the highest end stuff sure it seems to me like as a trip like so Nvidia has had like the tank mobile cards and like the Titan V stuff they've had these really high ends not taken you know supposed to be not geared towards gamers graphics cards but they kind of ride the line between a gaming graphics card and a workstation graphics card so yeah if they are gonna be calling their highest end gaming graphics cards now RTX and they're gonna sort of start to blur the line into that like I'm it seems somewhat reasonable to me when it comes to naming of products like this I think be very confusing a lot of the time especially for getting into PC gaming and you know you're just learning it for the first time and there's so many different names and SKUs and numbers with letters arranged in different ways I feel like having that distinction might be helpful to some degree and might also point out like oh the art TX ones have ray tracing capabilities right and if there are games that now start becoming developed because people can actually do real time ray tracing to some degree then that would be a distinction that would more easily be able to tell you you can play that game in that ray tracing mode that looks super awesome right with this graphics card but not with that graphics card yeah I don't know obviously all this stuff is fairly information we're not sure it's probably all lies and fake yeah but we share it with you nonetheless here on awesome hardware because Google's awesome hogs it's fun it's not smarter okay a couple more quick stories you want to go over the twenty nine ninety WX launched just yesterday short it available for sale shipping to people and a bunch of reviews went up reviews I feel like for the threader per to stuff we're very complimentary and positive about the 2950 X which did have some pretty impressive games gains over the nineteen fifty X yeah twenty nine ninety WX was very makes a very mixed bag though especially when you consider what you might potentially expect from a 32 464 thread processor it's capable of right and a lot of people who were testing with Windows saw minimal gains depending what they were testing in Windows 10 like there was a lot of law of diminishing returns there yes so this article again linked in the description is the per onyx review of the twenty nine ninety WX and it's comparing it specifically using various software a lot of it which I'm not familiar with so I can't speak on these but it's testing the software and if under different operating system canary O's so Windows 10 clear Linux 24 200 bhutesu and tear goes 18.7 and opens open SUSE SUSE an Zeus alright get Zeus Zeus probably showing different scores and so like here you should Windows 10 obviously the performance is a lot less than the other operating systems here again more is better so Windows 10 worst performance comparatively frames per second more is better Windows 10 performing worse so the concept here and this has actually also been confirmed by Microsoft believe via Twitter and they've said something publicly saying like hey this $29.99 TWX and Windows 10 is not performing how it should be right there's a lot more untapped performance that is being held back perhaps by operating system low level stuff that they could maybe fix with patches and whatnot so they will again articles linked in the description if you guys want to check it out pretty drastic yeah I mean some of these are really really drastic and and a lot of the benchmarks reflected this they were like they were like the 1950 X from last year did better than the 2990 WX Lucas you know on paper is supposed to be so much more at that supposed to have so much more performance so kind of similar to when risin lunch last year and they had to have a special power profile for your stuff you know the software oftentimes needs to catch up right and when you have such a massive jump in core counts with CPU compute capabilities you know then it's bound to run into some some problems Windows 10 being the underlying problem is going to affect a lot of different things so I guess give it some more time yeah and maybe if you were kind of disappointed by me 9 any W X numbers at launch perhaps with some patches and stuff we might see some of this performance of proof so cool is it was nice but it's more of a software issue because that seems to be a bit more feasible to fix to roll out diameter pilots I would love to I would love to see a direct response from Adobe in some way because the Adobe Premiere rendering is not usually not like is so not good yeah what's comparison so I'd love to see Adobe come out be like hey we saw these new processors come out and people are excited about them for using them for our stuff so we worked with AMD to leverage will make it work better Oh Dobie do that yeah that'd be awesome yeah one last story here to talk about this is from Eurogamer but it's actually about a Microsoft studio a new Microsoft studio called the initiative and not a whole lot of details here but just something that maybe it is something to keep an eye on for the opening studio yes new Microsoft game developing studio ok and you could look at this from two ways you could look at it from like oh it's Microsoft and and they suck it's big software company and no reason to get excited or you could look at it from the point of like it's Microsoft and they made halo piece one of like the most popular games of all time or at least festivities like halo well yeah but I mean Microsoft is just giving money cuz in collaboration you're right there but Microsoft has done some good stuff at the gaming studios and if there is a new cool good gaming studio in the works and potentially creating cool games as a results then maybe it's something keep an eye on so that ahead of the studio which is called the initiative is Darrell Gallagher and he actually did a post on LinkedIn I think he think that's post on LinkedIn yeah talking about some of the new talent that they had acquired they since he took down the post afterwards so I don't know if there's any any skullduggery going on here or whatever there's a reason they were maybe this is an early announcement but nonetheless that screen that post was screencaps so we know what he said they've hired a bunch of high-profile people from high-profile studios including Sony there's Sony's exclusive Santa Monica studio and also Rockstar and crystal dynamics so god of War's lead producer Brian Westergaard rockstars Christian and Kenta Meza Daniel Neuberger from Crystal Dynamics Microsoft senior senior director of portfolio planning Blake Fisher any lor who is an experienced recruiter who's worked at riot respawn at EA also during she's also drank with the ex Crystal Dynamics Lindsey mcweenie who will be the initiatives new HR and culture manager so the article seam is fairly positive about a lot of these hires good talent from locations that have proven themselves in the past so I guess maybe keep an eye on the new micro stuffs Microsoft studio the initiative and maybe they'll be cool games coming up hmm I'm down yeah all right let's move up a sword fight all right what we arguing today sir fights where can i argue about stuff sounds good i can always go for a good argument we shake for it and we argue about nevermind it's a super controversial topics usually super controversial topics today we're keeping it relatively simple because we've talked a lot about the upcoming and video stuff GPUs mostly and we have used different names at different times as we've referred to them and now today we have new information but we're still a half percent sure it's still rumor speculation so what do you guys think I was just kind of curious about this if you guys have been following along with the potential upcoming names for Nvidia graphics cards you can choose more than one response here excuse me so I want to know 1180 versus 2080 okay and GTX versus RDX I see what's gonna win here okay combine the two winners together and you have the name right of what in videos new graphics card should be called short alright okay I'm gonna say 2080 makes sense because it's one fewer syllable than 1180-1186 they'll add that will add up they will probably save me like a full hour of my life it's like the few pennies that you shave off of the manufacturing process for something that you know they make a million units up or something yeah right it's millions of dollars right there so break those triples now that makes it makes a huge difference 2080 for sure and I'll play devil's advocate here and say GTX all the way because GTX is what I know it's what I'm familiar with and how dare they change anything so drastic that really matters not at all to me I am a person on the internet and I am fickle and I hate change and even though it doesn't matter what it's called I'm still pissed and disgruntled and I can't believe I take personal offense this name change should be geez yes GTX for life see GTX 2080 would be my ideal name for the next-gen graphics up from video so obviously Kyle is wrong and the correct answer here if you guys are following along at home is RT X 1180 though it's obvious it's straightforward but start with the number the number first before we talk about the letters the number 1180 historically this is this is all based on history and obviously history and we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it if you look historically at Nvidia's naming conventions over the years they have never made a jump from 10 to 20 they've never made a 10 a jump by a factor of 10 has just never happened before yes we've had jumps by factors of over a thousands for instance when they regrets from the 9000 series down to the 200 series but that was a sea change you know they're obviously there was a lot of other factors at the time going into that point is Nvidia is a their company that is established with the long track record of stability and regular progress and you know jumps to the we've had jumps we've had jumps in the to did digit range for a while 200 series jumps to 400 series there was no 300 series we had a 500 series we had a 600 series we had seven or series there was no 800 series but we haven't even we have a 900 series I believe there was actually an agent in series and more laptops but I've never write about that point is jumps of one or two digits is what in video usually goes for a chump from 1000 it's why it's so ridiculous it's just it makes me technically to jump from 1 to 2 stupid no obviously the 80 is separate it's a jump from 10 to 20 1080 reach 10 to 11 1080 to 1180 is more of a change than 1080 to 28 how can you possibly even back that with any sort of like logic because it's the Internet and they'll decide with whoever sounds the most confident and they will look into the facts just whatever whatever people feel whatever people feel is right just go with your family just go with your gut all right several you're already proven why 1180 is more obvious choice compared to 2080 dumb now r-tx as we were talking about on Cal's half of the show NVIDIA has had reference design models for quite some time that I've got a little tired a little stale so how does GTX so they need to upgrade it RTX makes sense it's the obvious successor to GTX g2 are goes hand-in-hand no I rest my case anyone knows that buying a GTX 28 feels way better than buying an r/t x28 come on let's be honest people GTX is right now because the r-tx 2080 doesn't exist no is only the r-tx 1180 it's all an illusion all right the only exists in your mind let's see what you guys think I'm right check the results 2080 way and GTX GTX 21 I win both double look at it look how close it is though it's very it's very split all losers obviously this is the result of you going first loser people placing your boats there after they heard you and then as I was talking you know if you give it more time for people to hear what oh yeah I'm sure that's definitely this is gonna happen never mind the 2080 just increased right now a little bit never mind that at all sorry max 1180 will win they just got to give it gtx 28 for life with them right that wins yep and forced to take a drink of my beer damn right Marco God fanboy how will I survive this cruel punishing you a little of an AV Club all right I think that's all I have to talk about know we have Milton it's Bob Melvin male Time Lord okay all right I'm just gonna start unboxing Beijing stuff because there's visualize so much there's a lot of things wait this is from this is from oh this is like an Amazon purchase oh cool when you guys send me stuff directly from Amazon I don't know the same thing who sends in there you get this this this didn't they send me one of these too yeah I think they send this to both of us probably Oh fans okay they're easy DIY fans do you know why RGB fans yay thank you I will find something to do with these I'm sure so guys if you're not familiar with mailtime Kyle and I both have pio boxes and if you want to send us 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Edwin thank you so much I won't read this to you or I won't read this out loud on stream because you probably don't want me to but thank you very much for writing this says that your it looks like you're looking for some advice in your first PC and your huge witcher 3 fan assassin's creed Assassin's Creed fan and you want to get into games like wow don't do it don't get into wow it will destroy your life he's also like to get into YouTube and streaming yeah that's fun when they came up with so far cool well thank you ok oh you've gotten so a list of specs here it's a micro ATX bill gigabyte a d50 md v 3h that's a motherboard a sama max cool white I've never heard of that case a risin 320 200 G and a and a gigabyte rx 588 gigabyte I don't know if I would go to a to you it would I'd probably go with like a Verizon 5 at least if you could save up for a risin five six core that would be pretty sweet I think that would serves you well it's also possible given how long it has been since you oh he's got a video card in there he does a video which is why I don't think he should go to a Pew she's probably up for more cores of yeah yeah so bill with horizon 5 6 core CPU with 12 threads I think that would do justice for your rx 580 everything else seems pretty good though 16 gigs of DDR for 3,000 decent systemic power supply B through 15 motherboard gigabyte yeah looks good just uh just up here your CPU to rise in five you're good to go thanks Edwin I'll read the rest of this later but I appreciate you writing it Thank You Evan alright this was sent from Seth H from Omaha and the breasts yeah what it says Wow this computer parts whoa you got memory and in an SSD dude several pages of kids is documentation damn you got a 16 gig kit of LTX that's pretty nice wait and there's a USB USB stick in here and we don't trust the USB sticks yeah plug this into your this is deer pull hardware and bit with he included what is a standard or a stamp for return address kind of sketchy send you all several things the ddr4 2400 16 gig that's 2400 kit yep corsair RAM and one formatted new but won't fit build list hundred 20 gig SSD what case design an e-waste program item that I would like Harold's help with along the side help get it set up and his help getting schools across the nation and major companies to listen all that I'm trying to I'm trying to gather what he's but the goal is here from Seth why do I have a paypal credit letter I don't know address to your address my address that's your address although there's my appeal bar he's detected that well yeah but why how does PayPal how did they get a hold of this doesn't make sense hey pally Mila stop tracking me with Google location history wait we have we have something else here so what else is he our are the parts just because he had extras and he just felt like you needed them when I know for a fact you don't what's going on like what does he want does he want your soul I would have sent ya there's a small box here this is from I would have sent thunder you're all channeled but the roommate shirt changed me on his part of the rent money again what a dick this is from Quadra clicks Quadra clicks in Alta Loma California Quadra clicks sent me a mouse what are beefy right above touch Quadra clicks gaming LLC what is that this is the weirdest looking Mouse I've ever seen that's ridiculous what the hell is happening why why does it look like that okay I'm doing it test right now I'm gonna play I'm not playing in yeah that's my computer using your do not plug that in Oh weird but the buttons are not up here they activate back here what why they only work here up here they do not work they do not click up here who does anyone use a mouse like this yeah it's the fingertip the Fang grip Fang grip Mangrum cuz your fangs are read okay this is the weirdest Mouse I've ever seen and I don't understand it but I appreciate the gift and thought that went behind it I'm sure there's also a switch underneath it what is this a mouse for ants okay I don't understand this mouse stack it's gonna castle punished Oh what carpal tunnel mouse throat okay I don't I don't get it I don't get it but thank you thank you anyway what just when I thought I had seen it all I hadn't fun slowly and slowly comprehending what I got nutrition facts so screw you oh good that's even more confusing one serving size 140 rings per container there's literally a lot of fiber a dietary fiber everything is 0% fine like cholesterol sodium trans fat but dietary fiber is fifteen thousand three hundred and sixty eight grams that's a lot of fiber that's actually fifty four thousand eight hundred and eighty six percent of my daily fiber zero protein though so I probably won't eat it you probably eat the cardboard I know I need some protein and fiber anyway yo you might be asking what the is this piece of cardboard well he said to you because we think you're hot and successful school and because you're so hot we let we'd let you in on the next trendy diet to share with your followers it's called the cardboard diet that's right and it's about to change your life after trying countless diet foods that look good on the box we finally just committed and ate the box I mean if you're gonna eat food that tastes like anyway you might as well be eating cardboard am i right cardboard is naturally gluten-free dairy-free paleo and vegan cardboard doesn't pretend to be someone that it's not so what are you waiting for that beach bod is only three malnourished months away and closes your free sample more free samples are available at your local grocery store in the storage area at your local u-haul who are we take the red pill and find out yo cardboard DICOM fine print take off nutritional label before consuming nutrition label is not edible and neither is cardboard eating straight cardboard is stupid this has been the greatest gift that I've ever received and I'm still playing these cardboard His Majesty bit with it was addressed to his majesty bit with you so surprised that I can always appreciate a good mean gift thank you very much sir I so just I need to come back to this sentence shipment because it's multiple things set I think you were perhaps figuring that we're capable of doing a few more things than we're actually actually capable of I barely have enough time to like talk to my parents on a week you know I kind of weekly basis so so keep that in mind that said these two things that he sent us the memory kit and the SSD he wanted us to include and a charity giveaway okay a charity donation or Apple PC build-off for our entire area okay no offense meant to set but that is a significant amount of work to coordinate that type of event maybe we could donate to this to the gaming one team that's a good idea we're already late on that and the SSD oh maybe we're late but we can stop so we we do we do try to work out giveaways charity stuff every so often but it is a decent amount of work especially if you're talking about raffling something or selling something second up he these are all designs he sent designs for a case okay designs birthday the actual loop like actual what layouts what of a case will steal his idea the different size millions sizes and everything like that which I think he wants us to give their power somebody so that we can't they can share it was another case builder he has a first viewer sponsored case but if we do get this kids produce we should name it after his four-legged kid okay his dog Lucy fur baby so big shout outs a little wolf fur baby um alright so Seth thank you so much for sending us nothing I am absolutely not sure or confident that we could promise you that we'll follow up on the stuff that you've asked us to do simply because there's a lot of time involved but we do sure I know I and I think Kyle does as well trying to keep sort of a stash of stuff that we save for giveaways and everything like that yeah and we have done several events like that in the past and we will definitely add this to that and hopefully in the future we can Arctic scent use done I don't know if this is from Arctic directly from Arctic from Arctic cooling yes is directly from Arctic Wow interesting oh they sent me a box of stuff recently too did they really yeah to your P o box wasn't to the P o box cuz I had actually talked to them directly okay I've never spoken as far as I know to anyone nice other no Computex I did talk to someone from Arctic at Computex like in passing like while I was from one booth to another it was like a two minute thing so in a similar fashion I don't know how they tracked down my shipping address but for you apparently they shoulda checked on your PU box which isn't hard because my PE box is in the description of all my videos but we have like one two three four five six arctic Bionics f1 20s and this is an entirely normal based no nothing paid to me or anything like that this is a really good throw place so Arctic yeah yeah I've used Arctic for years is there MX for stuff I've used this before I you want something gave me like 30 of them No got a big pile to know you got some chance there's literally like 30 of them in here so keep these on have so many funniest available and this is not cheap thermal paste is very expensive considering how much you get inside of one little plunger Thank You Arctic I appreciate it I just gave a very very good review of your Arctic eSports one tr4 cooler that should have you know did that do well it did surprisingly well yes yeah alright this is from Michigan that's just an address I don't have a name Michigan is this a peachy keen humble up here I feel like this is maybe or something no it's so soon a piece of paper yeah okay hotel this feels like it might consume liquid oh really maybe beer we have to gotten sent beer at some point it's not super sure wait a minute all right look piece of paper alright hello pollen cow greetings for my fan in Michigan being from Michigan I thought it would be sporting of me to send you guys what has been voted the best beer in America war for the second straight year who seriously Google it as I do not drink alcohol for personal reasons I have sent you some bells to harder Dale to enjoy for all of us wow I do not know if you have ever enjoyed ever had this particular brew so I hope you enjoy it as many of other beer aficionados appear to many other beer aficionados appear to you the amazing cousin that I and so many of the others enjoy so much Randall laughs thank you so much Randall why does some packaging the chairman key dad's recipes headphone you this waiting six pack you get a six pack up stuff I got a CPU cooler hey mujin midget sighs it's a new game design Mugen - really - where is it I've never used this one it's gone all that's cool why are they send me a course I'm not sure is it because they wanted you to appreciate seasons so hot design of it and everything if we go thank you thank you whoever sent this this is a six pack of bells - heard a tale from Randall - hi Randall thank you we're gonna drink this it's an American IPA American IPA and apparently it is not like right now right no yeah but but soon next week yes cool Wow this one is also heavy oh yeah might also contain I have to pee you you open that really where you all right this is from this is from Gus Gus are from Missouri thank you so much guess so curious oh wait there's a message in here the size offs of hardware there aren't too many occasions when beer and computers come together when I spotted the brew situated at the top of this package I instantly thought of you guys it has ties to the custom PC world well sort of you might even say it's dynamic I've included two bottles of this special brew plus four more two other Brewers each for you guys to drink on the show thank you for making great content my builds would be lost without you both sorry for the extensive packaging presser Chicago cheers guests from Kansas City that's from Kansas City Wow guys thank you oh my God thank you for the good packaging to weave we have had a few brews sent to us that were unfortunately damaged on arrival but these are totally in good shape and they're all individually wrapped we have six of them I'm guessing they're all the same beer so let me just let me just open one of these up so we can get a closer look good job guests each of these has its own zip block I want to reuse all these all these citizen boxes a large large ziploc bag sir there we go and they again this is called case from Kansas City the KC beer company why it's a Hefeweizen a very in style wheat ale there it is see me out here so glass and pour swirl last two answers to rouse the yeast whoa Ziploc bags more beer from Melton oh and we can use the ziplock bags for like sandwiches yeah these are really good zip locks Wow and rubber bands are you tying your hair back there up and ups when we get really long here one day all right that's three gusts from Kansas City gasps thank you so so much awesome for sending us beer thanks Gus it's only set now for the next couple weeks I think at least well we'll probably be drinking these when we get back so yeah early September we'll come back to that in the meantime though let us drown out my half of the show wouldn't leave donation comments oh yeah thanks so I guess who have sent in some donations give them of the monies studying with bazinga ex-ceo $20 thank you man hey hey Paul how about the HTTP see it's been like 10 years Oh hasn't been 10 years hyper laser I have plans for the HTTP see Jerry do you know I move I move at a slow but the consistent steady pace consistently slow and and that's that's really what it comes down to for me but yeah I know I do i do intense like that like i've i've done this many times before i've i've let stuff sit for like well over a year 1 2 3 years even sometimes but I come back to it I come back to it he do he follow through I bet true in my own time my own pace I think actually what I want to do with the HTPC although I did have some recommendations for from people for how to possibly get rid of the wood beetles that appear to still be nesting in there is to take it back to the place that I originally got it but also want to get a little bit more wood there to make shelves out of so I could have that as a wall mount and also make shelves along with it for a few of the other people things that need shelves be cool so yeah next time and hopefully in due time I'll come back to that make dudes five dollar donation no comment thank you Mike dudes much much obliged thanks thanks for that MB 67 mr. lenticular $13.13 three dollars and 37 cents the leap donation says Cheers thank you hey shoes way back at you how's that took after Jekyll Stephen Hill $10 donation Stephen he said leaving it leaving for Austin as a 5 a.m. tomorrow if you guys ever head out that way let me know cool did a slower product cycle in the GPU and force you to to get more creative in making content take it easy I would say for myself personally at least in the past I don't know in the past year beginning that maybe not so much the beginning of this year but in the past year I feel like I've always had stuff to do like and I've tried to gear my content less towards like trained to have like a thorough coverage of the tech world and more being like just what I want to cover yeah and I always have stuff to do so if there's new launches or products coming up I have content to produce on that if not I have a lot of stuff around here in my house that I've been working on and I'm trying to sort of make content based around that as well yeah and so I've always got stuff to do I agree I think it's all about perspective I don't think that you know the fact that there hasn't been a new GPU launch in years has really restricted me or or forced me to to be more creative but rather has allowed me to be more creative because with like a conventional graphics card or CPU review there's really not a whole lot you can do to be super creative with how you deliver that information at the end of the day it's about the data and the results and comparisons to other other hardware but when you're not just constantly trying to chase every big watch every big silicon launch that's you know that's popping up it it lets you it gives you room for for other content that maybe you've been waiting to do for for a long time that you just haven't had the ability to or the opportunity to so I think if anything it's it's allowed us to be more creative as opposed as opposed to that being something that's forced upon us it's it's it's nice we enjoy when it's not just a constant barrage of launch after launch after launch because there there are creative projects that we we think about and that we have in the chamber that we want to deliver to you guys and that allows us to do that and look I look forward to the long periods of time with nothing scheduled yeah that's yeah that's the best yep think of this even Michael's secrets $20 donation I'm looking at GPUs for a gaming build is a gtx 1066 gig a viable card or should i spend more for the 1070 TI card so really you're talking about a hundred two hundred and fifty dollar difference here that's that's kind of the gap between a 1066 gig and like the low $400 range when the ten 70s and 1070 TI's come into play so it's it's it's significant of my money if you look at hundred and fifty bucks and you're like I can handle that you know in my month-to-month you know 150 bucks I can absorb that as an expense then ya get the higher end graphics card for sure if you're on a budget if you're worried about feeding your family or other you know vital expenses that you need to get by with and the 1066 gig is a perfectly viable card especially if you're playing at 1920 by 1080 yeah you'll you'll be totally just fine with that you know you might not be able to max out all the settings and all the games but it's it's a really good card for the money and everything so yeah it depends on your financial situation I guess mm-hmm but I usually say you know if you can afford it than the higher-end card but also that said as we've already talked about on the show there is potentially new cards coming up pretty soon yeah so it might be worth hanging up for a couple weeks to see what happens there and see if that affects the pricing of the existing cards at all yeah Mustangs by Matt with a $5 donation Paul really like your tr2 videos thank you thank you Matt I'm building a new HTPC win are you gonna finish yours god it's been ten degrees so it's not ten years it's been just over one year just hashtag ten years just over one year you've started a new trend yes thank you Matt I already answered the HTPC question from bazinga X so hopefully you listen good of that too I do plan to get back to it I really do Darrell may five dollar donation thanks for all your work I've learned a lot thank you Darrell sweet I'm glad we've been able to help yet if if so bazinga X with the five more dollar donation thanks a lot AMD now more Windows updates we have to go through we'll probably be the same amount of Windows updates honestly it'll just slip a m-- the threaded / fix in one of them yeah every time I live like a Windows Update an inconvenient time I want to like tweet about it because super nice happens at the worst times awful and really like it can like it like the other day I was trying to shoot a video and my lap the laptop you're using right now which I just wanted to like open up and use to power my teleprompter and it's like Windows Update congratulations now you're gonna sit here for ya and for 10 more minutes can't user do the thing that you wanna do but yeah feel the pain just install Windows 95 on this bad boy Thank You mrs. Inga but yeah the flip side is like oh I'm so much more protected against viruses and exploits right except for Microsoft you blessin 763 $5 donation wins should upgrade my 1066 gig SC GPU run an i7 7700 also just a thought shave Kyle's head for $100 on the next episode but sounds like a terrible idea at this no one wants to see me bald no one no one one I'll say I feel like you should charge more more money for that guy I'll do it for ya $20 well you practice that's not fair what I have I can't like luscious locks up sell him too much hair obviously 100 is what he wants to spend you're losing literally nothing you know anything about this your Eddie yearning bulb I'm an expert in English you bald asshole as for the 1066 ESC GPU I would largely base that on the resolution that you're playing it if you're at 1080 I would say stick with it if you're looking at 1440 or god forbid 4k then you probably could do with an upgrade but if you're a 10 1080 I would stick with it like for now or at least wait until the next gen graphics card zoom out and see again see how that affects stuff yeah see if you can get an idea of the launch cadence and you know how long they're gonna wait like if they come out with a launch and they're like here's the new graphics card and at 600 bucks for the art TX 20 80 or whatever they're calling it yeah everyone's like oh I'm super excited about that for now how long after that until they launch the $250 variants because the $250 variant is that's that that's the mass production variant that's that's what most people are gonna buy spend that amount of money on and that's often like where you kind of get the the best balance of price to performance so it's kind of worth sticking around for that but that's what you have right now is a 1066 gig which is so which is that card so why upgrade until you have a replacement for that guy true I guess you can upgrade to the 400 R version and Thank You Blair sin 7-6 is a great matter grey matter 9 9999 no no 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