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Awesome Hardware #0164-B: Intel's Forking Z399 and X599

2018-10-02
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out for some reason why I should close the door I'm gonna close the door man go hey eight more seconds of distractions one two this thing - I'll just sing to eight till it's over hey beautiful everything's going perfectly alright Intel's high-end desktop platform is potentially according to this article from tech power up which I was noting as I read it doesn't though here's the source PC builder's club where is it PC builder's club is where this is sourced from yep where is PC builder's club getting their source this is from Germany anyway point being it's the postulation here is that Intel is going to actually fork their high-end desktop platform well then it means there's gonna be - this is gonna split from one platform to two platform yes of course right now Intel scientists but the desktop platform is $2.99 right let's guy like xcp use of course according to this we the successor to X 299 which can't of course as you know be x3 99 because AMD already was like dibs on x3 99 we're gonna name we're gonna make that name sure Z 399 so essentially what you have here is two variants using two variants of a high-end desktop platform one that's a little bit more focused on high core count CPUs and one that is a little bit more focused on some backwards compatibility as well as probably more of a successor to what Scylla qex currently is on X 299 so you'd have two different sockets you'd have LGA 20 66 which of course is currently the socket for next 399 but it would now have a new chipset so this hasn't really been done before on the high-end desktop platform usually they they have a single chipset and they stick it stick with it for like three years so of course this brings up many questions LGI 2066 would be z 399 of course that's not an X anymore Z is more like what they have on their mainstream platform with like Z 270 and Z 370z 390 coming up soon mmm-hmm X 599 would be LGA 36:47 aha 36:47 obviously is a much larger socket that's the current socket that's used on the high end Xeon server systems LJ 3647 would support 24 core 26 core and 28 core skylake x x CC processors which is extended or extreme core count because currently on skylake X they have high core count and they have regular car counter standard core count because because it goes from four all the way up to 18 and ran the current platform right meanwhile this Z 399 new successor chipset with LGA 2066 would support up to 22 core CPUs so it's low on jumping from 18 cores with the 79-80 XE right now to 20 and 22 right so you can kind of see here if you're looking at the article and of course all my articles link the description if you guys want to check them out you can kind of see how they're they're making the stratification of their high end desktop platform and it almost vaguely makes some sense to me in some ways but you also have thrown in there just the confusing aspect of the freaking chipset names yeah which this just makes more confusing that's gonna mess everything up and so yeah so I'm so I'm torn about this news assuming of course that it is true this is obviously this is this is early stuff and rumor stuff so we're not a hundred percent sure about it because that makes me think that there's going to be different features on each of these chipsets now that we have to consider potentially possibly the the article purports that X $5.99 would essentially be a rehash of their existing chipset that they have on LGA 3647 which is what does it see it's a see see chipped it's a see chip ready to go see it's already kinda straight here and blind I am blind see 506 C 506 no see 69 there it is C 629 Thank You Kyle logic in the wrong all right so X 5 to 999 would essentially take their server chips see 629 add some client segment features and subtract some enterprise segment one so it wouldn't compete with their I had an enterprise class stuff whereas the 399 would be an actual more like successor to X 299 and what it is right now and probably do some stuff like what Z 390 is doing I'm sorry c3 Knight yes the 390 is doing from Z 370 uh-huh adding stuff like 802 11 AC Wi-Fi integration and USB 3.0 Z 399 is still gonna be more of like the consumer based professional workstation higher desktop a consumer of it but consumer based consumer that's a post like server side 4 X 5 9 9 X 5 anything definitely sounds more like the Z on type geared NX $5.99 or definitely something to compete with AMD's at bacons rise and thread Ripper and thread Ripper to stuff or you know that they have the 2990 WX which is 32 cores mm-hmm on a consumer plate so Z 399 would be the competitor to thread it for right the next $5.99 would be the competitor to epic no X $5.99 would be the competitor to the Red River I mean they both be competitors to thread refer in some respects okay but if you need the core count and often things you need core count for much more specialized that yeah that's a problem with like with with the 2990 WX on my AMD side Ram is it's good some very specific things yeah but it's actually not good at some of the basic stuff like a you get much better gaming performance sure with the 2950 X then you do with the 2990 WX right now so yeah so there's there's variables there with the that goes into the high court count thing and everything but ultimately its Intel taking some of their existing hardware that they already have working with them on the server side and porting that down to the consumer level which they've definitely done many times before with their high-end desktop platform but also again creating this fork with two different chipsets two different sockets in the high-end desktop space still high-end desktop was still that still consumer focused so again I'm excited about the potential for crazy powerful computers in the consumer space and stuff that's more reasonably priced in the enterprise I like Intel answering back to AMD and competing here especially after everything that happened with Red River I see computer getting all mad oh no I was doing and some websites farming it's it's mining no just haven't came over so yeah the the downsides to it of course are just the stupid there's the confusion confusion the naming schemes yeah I feel like if you could somehow separate everything AMD and everything Intel and rename their product stacks from the top down with just something disparate on both sides it would clarify stuff for especially for anyone who's getting into PC building for the first time just so much yeah that would be nice but yeah ultimately we'll have to wait and see and I think there's still lots of people who do still remember Intel's 28 core demo with the with the chiller unit that they did Computex mmm-hmm specifically to try to combat the threat for to launch stuff that they were about to come out with and I think people are still remembering that Intel did promise the 28 core CPU by the end of this year right a consumer high-end desktop 28 core CPU yeah and they're not gonna do that I don't I don't think they can do that on LGA 2066 so I feel like we're already in October when the last we're in q4 we're anticipating and Intel launched on the main on the mainstream side pretty soon I don't know it seems like there's a lot this is like at the end of the year you might have a lot of stuff going on maybe I don't think it's all gonna be fate I think into the end of the year the one if it's gonna overflow into 2019 yeah so we'll wait and see and we'll talk about it when it happens so yeah hopefully that brings you guys up to speed a little bit with what's coming up on the Intel side let's talk about tariffs and gaming under the prices for computer components here in the United States game of gamers Nexus Steve our friends over there at GN did some actual journalistic work and contacted technique he was our journalist Paul everyone knows that well they are when they also have a website where the X written content as well okay so tariffs is a situation here in the United States where the government's decided to apply tariffs to a bunch of different countries who ostensibly because they say we have trade deficits with them I take issue with that but point being stuff coming from China and specifically with this phase three of the tariffs that's going on right there that's phase three part one started yesterday October 1st 10% 10% tariffs on stuff coming from China a specific list and it's going to increase 15% more taking it up to 25% January 1st 2019 gamers Nexus went and talked to quite a few different industry contacts that they have EVGA CEO Andrew Hahn they talked to somebody at NZXT somebody at Silverstone somebody alpha cool they also have some other comments from people who spoke to them off record basically every single one of these companies said they're going to be affected by these tariffs in some way some of them said like everything we have is going to be affected by this or most of this stuff some like alpha cool said we actually have quite a few things that don't fall within the categories that are listed yeah but they are only one there's but they're still affected with some of the products that they sell the way the tariffs work are when a company in the United States purchases products from China the company in the United States pays the tariffs and that money goes to the US government we're not have a percent sure what that money is specifically being used for you might assume that running going to the US government might hopefully be used for something positive but you might also think that that's no way in hell that's gonna happen so great Farfetch'd this point yeah the full list of tariffs includes products such as Paris flies motherboards video cards complete system builds which I wasn't sure was on the list prior to now but apparently it is bridges such as SLI and NV link bridges I guess SSDs mouse pads mice keyboards keyboards and mice only have bundled together with but he's not on keyboards if sold separately so if you buy an individual keyboard if you bought a bunch of keyboards it wouldn't subject to the tariffs but you if you bought a bunch of keyboard Massa combos like the bunch companies like ku and master yourself then yahoo it CPU coolers cases chairs and more there's stuff that's not affected by the tariffs a lot of this as the results of companies or industries that have enough leverage enough lobbying power to specifically go in and say hey we have a bunch of people are gonna be pissed off if they have a bunch of tariffs now on their new iPhones so iPhones are exempt laptops also are exempt don't we have a voice don't we have a say we have a say you can vote well in just over a month you could vote at the beginning of November I've been encouraging people to register to vote but you're saying iPhone fanboys don't have to vote they can just say like we're just gonna get really angry if you everyone should vote no I know that everyone should vote and undeniable but but Apple Apple people don't have to vote because so wait is that really can you explain why like iPhones aren't being tariffed but computer cases are because as exceptions are made in certain circumstances when enough noise is made that people are like alright we won't pull making exceptions for that there's a bunch of exceptions to the tariffs that or you have stuff like subsidies being applied to like to farmers and stuff because there was much a choice soybeans women and so cuz it's cuz soy was one of the things that was on the tear was one of the things that the tariffs were applied to nice but the point being here is that PC parts are probably going to be getting more expensive how much more expensive they get is still slightly up in the in the air but you can expect ten to twenty five percent more expensive did you mention CPUs or GPUs on that list I didn't catch those I cannot take video video cards yes it doesn't it says CPU coolers it doesn't say CPUs sure so I think I was actually counting keeping count of all the main parts of a PC that you were listing seven of the eight major parts of a PC you just listed the only one being the only not being CPUs so that's it's a good chunk it's a good chunk of your system yeah so that sucks there's further fallout from this there's a segment about price increases possibly going to be more than 25% because of other factors taking effects a knock-on effect so to speak where your companies lose spending power and will charge consumers to try to make up for it because of the cutbacks they have to make in order to carve out room to pay the tariffs so that's an issue there there's also an issue going on with shipping costs right now because tons of companies are trying to preempt the tariffs or at least get ahead of them or at least stock up prior to the holiday seasons that are coming up so companies that have lots of warehouse space in the United States are actually in a better situation than companies that do not because they're able to like be like ship us everything you have right now well it's while the tariffs aren't taking effect or well it's just 10% prior to it being a 25% charge from that leader and stuff yeah so we'll see what actually happens for the holiday season and then I don't know I mean the upshot of this right now I think if people are asking like right so what's what's the result is like if you're thinking about building a computer or buying a computer operating it seems like you should probably do so now before those rat leads - rather than sooner rather than later so yeah Black Friday deals might be shit because the tariffs will be in full effect by then potentially or potentially there's enough companies will have stockpiled product because a lot of truth yeah for the Black Friday time period you know that there's already been ship but it doesn't that stuff doesn't always arrive like a week or two before a lot of that stuff has already been backlog being stocked up right now so it's hard to say how much of a significant effect that might have on this holiday season but hopefully it's not too bad and then want to see how things go next year kinda crappy only know as the prices are as low as they can be right now we can't say for the future yes next story though video cards dot-com for this one and Intel's ninth gen Core processors the 9000 series we've talked about a lot of the rumors and potential stuff coming up with that for quite a few for last couple months it seems like there's been ton of leaks this is an Amazon listing now the price on the Amazon listing is five hundred and eighty two dollars and fifty cents for the I $9.99 hundred K yes which seems pretty high a lot of the rumors we were looking at were thinking it was going to be more in the 450 maybe a little bit higher than that range four hundred fifty to five hundred dollar range but that aside this supposed listing from Amazon which was grabbed by a Twitter user called the mo mo mo underscore us has a picture of this ninth gen Corinne and packaging which seems to be a unique photo that I don't think has been seen elsewhere and supposedly there's a couple angles at it but this is just a picture of the webpage so we can't see that maybe an answer to some of the stuffs that AMD has done with their packaging on the high end especially especially with the Thunderbird yeah it seems to be a dodecahedron whose article is this how does I mean it's ten sided dodecahedron is deca sounds like ten dodeca I believe is 1212 you could use it for D&D dodecahedron there I was at 2000 like ghost 12 I was ready to draw love okay twelve flat faces so a 12 a 12 sided box that I don't know why white why that design just because it looks fancy hexahedron and it takes ahead to 12 cores yeah that's right been like an eight-sided 16 sided whoever whoever from videocards wrote this article said it should be a hexahedron there you go yeah which would be thanks he'd ruin me it made sense a solid figure with six plain faces I would have been there would have been like that attention to detail it but this is an eight-core processor yeah it's absolutely asinine anyway nonsensical I don't know how much people care about packaging or the unboxing experience or stuff like that accurate some of the videos have gotten quite a few views when it comes to unboxing and I will say when you buy something like super fancy that you've looked forward to for a long time if there's kind of a cool unboxing experience for it that's kind of fun yeah and it's nice especially when you compare it to some of the stuff that intel has done with their cpu packaging which is basically like we made this cardboard insert for it which is like the cheapest slashed most sturdy cardboard configuration to support a processor that you could possibly have another than that it's like a box and there's a paper inside you know that's okay it transports the processor to you just fine you know I don't mind something like this we'll see if this is actually true and if it is and maybe we will do unboxing videos of it when available I'm like I have no idea if that's actually gonna happen or not yeah look again though cool oh and here's the juice to do dude you probably saw the packaging moe moe moe us originally posted the image alright easy time speaking of prices going up because of tariffs e times this e times article says DRAM prices are declining dear I'm price declines have been accelerating we've talked about Samsung and a couple of the other song SK Hynix and some of their plans to like restrict their production to limit availability to keep price as high as there is a glut of availability on the market and possibly a fall-off in demand and this is the fault and demand due to why people aren't buying me as many smartphones I guess smartphones and laptops but according to the article dear am pricing is expected to decline about 5% in q4 vs. q3 of 2018 amid increasing bit supply and limited demand growth ahead of the holiday season according to trend force it's a market research firm that's Rex chip pricing so we could leave it at that but no I want more I want more we're gonna go over to PC part picker Oh God what we're looking at prices right now of course price trends well first we're gonna look at some price trend graphs which you can look at on PC part picker just go to price trends up here in the upper right so let's check out like a good ddr4 kit ddr4 3200 that's for my 4 4 by 4 so 16 gig ddr4 kit which is gonna track roughly about the same as to make it maybe a little bit more expensive so we can see a definite dip right here for September or for the end of September yeah that's that's noticeable right there yep bear mine this is the average price of all the kids so you're getting not just the kits that are writing the like lowest line of price you're also getting the the kits averaged in here that are significantly more expensive so this average price line is usually a bit higher than what you can actually buy them for but this is a $200 line kind of right at the center here and you can see it was quite a bit above that it's dipped down to get pretty close to it now but this seems like it goes up right at the holiday season too which makes sense right the holiday season I like for in past years yeah yeah that's possible which makes yeah what I'm gonna do though is just do a quick search what do we want here what do you want we want I like the 30 key I like 3,200 let's look for 2x8 that's a new standard configuration for a nice memory setup yeah and great is that that's better I mean that's all for now this is pretty good 169 oh no no Kyle 135 hey that's pretty good that is pretty good for a 3,200 speak it and it's ripped off 5 which is pretty yeah that's that's a nice pre reliable all right well that's definitely dropped I feel like it was yeah I feel like it was I was gonna say well it ramps up fairly quickly here but if this if these are some recent drops it might take a while to kind of trickle trickle up yeah up to the to the other kits and stuff true alright so something to keep in mind again we're like when you talk about the price of computer parts I'm always yeah it's very fickle I'm always somewhat hesitant because advice we can give you know sometimes when I pee right sometimes it might be wrong but people are always asking that question like should I buy now should I wait right and if this dip is something that's like dipping down with the memory prices right before everything increases from the tariffs yeah this might be just this idea a little time to buy like October 2018 that I don't know so anyway well we'll keep an eye on it though welcome back to it that's all for my news segment let's quickly lovely talk about our sponsor for today okay let's do every day go to sheba Oshawott sponsor we already unboxed there yes there OCZ are c100 this is their cute little m to drive but we have a couple others here we're gonna unbox that again okay we're saving these for future weeks toshiba has sponsored awesome hardware for the month of october so we greatly thank them thank you assume it makes a ton of stuff but the stuff that we're specifically talking about is their SSDs yes which use BICS NAND flash memory their own in-house memory yet so they so they they make this NAND flash and they can make it to be both fast and affordable which is why the products based on it are often very reasonably priced and also still have a very quite good performance the products are showing off here is the OCZ TR 200 which is a nice 2.5 inch SSD available in a variety capacities and this is again often very reasonably priced so check that out online we also have the XS 700 which is an external SSD so it's like a little 2.5 inch form factor but it's got USB type-c as well as USB 3.1 gen2 connectivity and then we also have this little drive that Kyle was wearing on his nose which is super tiny so it's a perfect example of just how portable and compacted yes this is the RSC 100 and it's available in a couple different sizes - I said I wasn't gonna unbox this I can about box it right now so is that a larger capacity as well because it's longer that's 480 oh it's not longer though oh it's not yeah Wow impressive so they're both still 22 40s so 22 42 um when you talk when you're talking a little MDOT - SSDs and the form factor the size 22 is the 22 millimeters wide 42 is 42 millimeters long usually most SSDs we work with are 20 to 80 80 millimeters long this one is just super super teeny tiny like that 240 480 you said yeah 480 gigs and that little guy right there yeah so compare that to something like solid that's a 20 to 80 which is basically like almost almost twice as long right there hell yeah so cool so a nice solution for small form-factor systems hundred why I'm about to Drai's weren't like more drives went this size because it seems like a lot of the PCB is not utilized on a lot of this this extra section also has a unique kind of cool thing because you notice there's only one chip on here yeah right that's like the entire thing is on this chip it has a controller and and the BICS and and on the single chip yeah um so that's that's why table I feel like honestly there's extra space on this PCB right here going out to the end Terrebonne here easily yeah that's that's cool sonar c100 from Toshiba can find links in the description later tonight after I add them I mines already there you already did that I did all right go to Kyle's sly defender the first half and there's links in the description word I'll add that to mine to buy all of them okay thanks to achievement thank you Toshiba for sponsoring us everywhere let's move on to games report games report talk about some video games oh yeah we haven't done games report in a while I know I was happy to see that you'd started the segment today well there was some gaming news I felt like people should know yar so let's start out we are some Red Dead Redemption Redemption - I should say I played the first one I beat it and it was glorious and I really really really really really really hope it comes to PC so Red Dead Redemption we will get to that Red Dead Redemption by Rockstar Games it's a Western open open worlds GTA 5 in the Wild West GTA 5 in the Wild West takes very popular amongst the people who have played it for quite a wide variety of reasons so good I mean GTA generally does a good job with all the games and it's coming very soon to PlayStation 4 and Xbox one and according to this article it's also gonna take up a hundred gigs more than a hundred gigs of space that really sucks to be a console yeah so for consoles which are definitely more limited on space that's a definite issue that they might run into and and also if you have like a limited limited bandwidth with your internet connection or if you have bandwidth cap 105 gigs of hard drive space is the total amount it has to install at least at launch that's cool it's actually number 2 on the list of the 15 biggest ps4 games and it's not yeah it's very analyst it would be file size wise hundred and five gigs not biggest like most influential or like successful but like just size wise right I know maybe you're number one on this list oh wow above battlefield 4 at surprised it's it's the it's the latest open-world triple-a title so I'm not terribly surprised honestly oh I thought it was second cuz it says Red Dead Redemption to the biggest games okay yeah sorry the dogs are working out in the other room though they have to release it for PC oh now so that's obviously the question and there's no recent news on that but I did also link an article from back in July about red eared red dead redemption on the PC and the answer is that there's not an answer right now true to form Rockstar is being being kind of cagey about confirming that it's gonna come out on the PC there's it's like reasonable to assume that it will come out yeah but they're probably not going to according to this article they probably will not even touch upon a PC release date before the game arrives on consoles which is coming in on October 26 by the way tonight did I say that October 26 right there's a launch date for the consoles so there you go true this article on PC gamer goes into a few their suspicions based on for instance a LinkedIn ad that was hiring people specifically to work on the PC version of Red Dead Redemption linked an ad for from Rockstar there's also an anonymous rock star employees LinkedIn profile I'm sorry that's that comes from a profile before was changed yeah but that's that's pretty much it they did list how long it usually takes rockstar games to come to pc GTA 4 took seven months mm-hmm LA noire took six months macpaint max payne 3 only two weeks but it was historically considered a PC series so that kind of makes more sense GTA 5 17 months yeah Wow two and a half frickin years yeah between the I'm sorry one and a half years they're almost one and a half years yeah that was a long wait but I mean it's still going strong considering that it was announced alongside of 2014 version of the consoles at e3 yeah so we have to cross our fingers that it's gonna come to the PC do the first one to make it oh wait luster our camera oh geez hold on Frozone don't worry guys oh boy exit can I go to the bathroom quick of course of course you can now he's gonna take a leak watch out for the dogs they're moving on though the oculus quest is what we're talking about next oculus quest is the next oculus VR headset which is also going to come with not just the VR headset there's a video here which I'm going to kind of play I don't know I don't know how much you guys have it because it's it's like leave the video isn't of the oculus quest it's of a bunch of people getting excited about old computer or old advances in gaming technology so it's I it's a hype video it doesn't it doesn't do anything to tell you more about the oculus quest so so let's do that oculus quest is gonna cost 400 bucks and it is Wireless it's basically standalone so as you can maybe see from this dude who's wearing it in this environments which has been theoretically what he is seeing here is much more fancy than what we are seeing you can wear it wirelessly and you can move around and that's according to the article writer is a big old advance over stuff like the oculus rift there's a couple specs on it that are listed watch further down here newer higher around a higher end Oh display it is LED this time 1600 by 1440 pixels per eye only running at 72 hurts though whereas the rift runs at 90 Hertz so we can potentially see something like an upgrade to the rift in the future that is tethered to a PC but this will be standalone and it's probably gonna be something that's a lot more accessible for people who now the camera froze again what's going on with it no sorry about that guys refreshed any person now yep so unusual oculus quest is supposed to arrive in spring of 2019 and I imagine for a price of $400 for a standalone headset it's running Android rigs and according to the writer of the article on PC Gamer which is west finland he played several games he couldn't distinguish a difference between the performance of this and the oculus rift other than of course those specific spec differences that I mentioned it's running a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 processor but he tried like superhot and he said superhot was basically the same exact experience that was on the rift so so so that's kind of cool and he's also said the experience of playing super hot where you have to like dodge bullets and everything like as you move around was a lot better since you weren't tethered to any wires or anything I reckon about Wireless here where else yes the oculus quest is a standalone VR headset coming in spring 19 for hundred dollars that's Wireless yes got it Wireless and standalone oh there's something you might stand alone yeah so it's not you don't need a PC it runs oh oh does that even connect too well damn that lowers the barrier to entry is shit done it does what I'd be kind of curious also to see for something like this would be like the ability to connect it to a PC like it like something yeah something you can select in bidi a shield the way it can do in home streaming from a PC right so you could be like you could use a standalone to play games or you know you can have the you know a baller enough Wi-Fi connection or something sure then you could also connect to a PC to play games that way that'd be cool be interest let's move on though sorry the dog is freaking out my wife just got its good price too oh yeah Harry Potter Harry Potter are you a fan of Harry Potter cat I like Harry Potter I'm not like a Harry Potter nerd I wouldn't consider myself a Harry Potter I don't know like all the lore but I enjoyed the movies and I enjoy the book you know the stuff okay but I'm not like a Harry Potter geek are you excited okay supposedly Harry Potter footage like oh it's already taken down Wow Warners really you can't even see it anymore like I don't get I like I don't get about Harry Potter I'm not Harry Park each I don't get like giddy about like leaks like this yeah but like whatever new IP or whatever I'm sorry whatever content peace that comes out around it I'll probably check it out well maybe this is a good thing then that we can't replay the video if Warner Brothers is taking bad videos doesn't take down our streams then they might take down issue a take down notice for my stream the game might be called Harry Potter magic awakens it's an RPG if I kind of wanted to show you some of the footage it was like it's like video of a screen so it doesn't look that clean but it also has kind of that sort of shady look that makes you think like oh maybe that's actually legitimate and I mean the content on screen is pretty cool so there was a little bit of the character creation feature where you can kind of create your character as a student at Hogwarts sure I believe the time that they say it was set is earlier there's an analysis of the entire video in here you're a newly arrived fifth year student at Hogwarts that demonstrates a latent gift for magic with unique ability to track and identify remnants of potent ancient power upon arrival strange events but begin to materialize in the Forbidden Forest and trouble begins to bring within the castle walls together with Professor Eleazar fig you embark on a journey through both familiar and never-before-seen locations I'm fascinated so it's kind of cool to see I mean if you watch the movies the sum of the parts from the movies like hard work Hogwarts castle and stuff but anyway for anyone who's really into Harry Potter I imagine this will be a game that you would be pretty stoked on your boyfriend Harry Potter yes yeah yeah I mean for any any any of my interest in it is definitely stuff of hers yeah yeah it's do you think this is a game she would be checking out potentially yeah maybe I don't know not to see I mean I would think any any diehard and of this franchise would be who's also into gaming yes don't yeah and also I mean it's Harry Potter is one of those sort of it's got its own universe yeah things so you know they're always expanding on it there's a there's a new fantastic beasts movie coming out and I haven't really watched many of those they're based in the US but that's the theory is that they're going to release the game along with the launch of that movie um you know this sort of a cross-promotional thing I say which should make some sense is that because they're from the same producers or something or that's all on the same visit a Wizarding World of Harry Potter oh that's okay yeah that's the same universe time yeah fantastic beasts is also a part of Gajapati universe but I believe it's set in America okay that's honestly all I know about it I have a three-pointer with West British accents yeah but it's still go yeah uh right look again sweet overwatch overwatch I think overwatch they're making a Lego line of Lego overwatch heroes okay there's tracer he's like oh what's pretty good she's missing the guns they got her hair yeah you're right she should have guns that make more sense or at least should watch we should watch this video okay so they're releasing overwatch themed LEGO sets and a Halloween event what's the Halloween event we're not we haven't gotten to that yet Oh well I mean wow it's amazing how more legal this comes she moves around that make sure that wasn't a hairy fire every time yep that was Tracy Lego Blizzard attaint Entertainment announced earlier this year heroes of ever watch would beginning their very own sets overwatch Twitter account previously had a very short first glimpse in the form of a character selection screen video hinted at the possibility of Leo Genji McCree mercy soldier 76 Reaper or maybe zenyatta or Reinhardt and Widowmaker at the very least no further information on which heroes will be featured or which locations will beginning their own sets Lego line will join the nerf weapon line which features divas light gun and Reapers Hellfire shotgun as part of overwatch is for with forays into the 20 market and it makes sense that they probably get overwatch Legos they probably you know do the numbers and say hey we have a certain age group or a demographic that plays this video game that overlaps with the same age group that plays with Legos so I thought everyone played with Legos oh that was a normal thing I still do every game it's also October October is the month that Halloween falls in so here's another article from variety what's a variety or double feature see yes yes overwatch has a seasonal Halloween events they've only just teased it they said there's a rumor among explorers about a monolithic lair home to terrifying Horrors heroes how will you prepare and there's a video which is kind of stupid I mean it's not stupid is a seven second video so it's like it's a it's very much at ease this is number 128 overweight I want to play stupid yeah this is from the overwatch Twitter account so there it is so maybe there's gonna be a special Halloween map like that's literally the entire video what yeah maybe you're playing on that castle yeah October night those when it starts in the birthday a week from now oh yeah your birthday and yeah so that's kind of cool also along with that they have more stuffs they're trying to sell you of course overwatch Halloween costumes oh those are gonna go millions then these are like official officially licensed overwatch Halloween costumes Wow again G soldier Tracy oh it got adult costumes just slap in the face all that on there I should get it Genji muscle adult cuffs gonna be funny if you bought one of those leave you bought that costuming you want to cosplay contest people who like custom-made they're their own Ginji outfits I mean if you're again humane then obviously you should should embrace that yeah yeah yeah there we go overwatch Halloween stuff sweet and that pretty much wraps it up for my half of the show beautiful normally this is where we would do the after-party we are gonna do the after-party now yeah so here's the deal guys we've sort of slightly been changing up the format of our show intending to make it shorter a little bit and a little bit more succinct we didn't quite do that today but that's fine and we've been doing we've been doing our after-party on Twitch but we had a few people who are like I don't use twitch or whatever or I like watching everything on YouTube so we've decided to still do the after party on Twitch but we're also going to do the after party on YouTube as well just the after party video on YouTube will probably end up being unlisted in the future so in the video description is a link to the after party if you want to watch it on YouTube or if you want 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