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Awesome Hardware #0166-B: 802.11ay Wi-Fi, 128GB of DDR4, Fast NVME SSD Competition for Samsung

2018-10-16
over here wah-wah I mean I'm so kind of curious I look there see that's loading more thumbnail kinda sorta I mean that's better new the side video sighted baby that's good maybe that minute just actually started broadcasting right now and we are broadcasting to YouTube that's entirely possible but we're really not sure but I want to pretend like it is working so alright hi everyone and welcome to awesome hardware this is a live show with stream every Tuesday evening we talk about technology computers gaming pcs mostly and we do occasionally use adult language so a quick word of warning there we do also drink a beer on the show feel free to join us with join us if you are drinking responsibly and are of age of course and things are a little bit shaky right now because YouTube during Kyle's half like Kyle started broadcasting his half I broken up this show which is episode number hundred and sixty-six now on his channel bit wit and then YouTube broke so Kyle obviously was responsible for 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as well as the donation comments any when you donated in super chat although how the hell when YouTube was working yeah I mean I did see some dope yeah so there might have been a few that came in earlier on I want to keep refreshing YouTube as we go here to at least keep an eye on yeah boy whether or not that's working but each so it goes I suppose alright let's proceed with some news I don't have a whole lot of news to talk about and most of my news is not so good very good news very useful hatred news you guys are gonna find it's very edifying so first off the Intel Core i $9.99 hundred k is launching a few days here so which bullets i was gonna there's so much blood gonna grab this i haven't got one you don't have one of them stole little salty Calvi intel flew you all the way in New York and they didn't for their launch event obviously they must have sent you one of these they said they'd never arrived so obviously people who work in my building stole it I've reached out to Intel alright until if you're watching get Kyle his 900k please please anyway though I didn't do anything wrong there's only limited information we're allowed to share about the 9900 K until the embargo lifts me which is on Friday that has been publicly acknowledged by Intel normally when there is an embargo or an NDA on a product we're not necessarily supposed to tell you when the embargo or the NDA lifts sometimes it's okay it kind of varies but once it's made public information then it's public information so a little bit more on this platform though in something that was published in a non tech an article by eating cut-rate Ian Contras and all my articles leaked down in this video's description you gotta check it out on YouTube so these are new memory modules which are the survey tall rate tall memory modules Adak yes and there's a couple companies that are producing them oh those are the 32 gig modules yes so HP and Intel has not confirmed actually support for these on this new platform for the newest 9000 series processors 9900 K 9700 K and 9600 K you should at least come December be able to use these new double-height DDR DIMMs which are the very tall they use up more space but that shouldn't be a problem if you're using something like an all-in-one liquid cooler or something like that and it allows support for basically twice as much memory his was supported before the kind of interesting thing about this is that HP actually came out with it first and that Intel was kind of forced because HP had told them that their mainstream desktop platforms are get a ship with 32 gigs of memory onyx and are expandable up to hundred and twenty eight gigs until then it was contacted by a non tech and they confirmed yes these mainstream processors will support these new types of memory dims main stream processors prior to now only support it up to 64 gigs two memory channels with two dimms per memory channel and only 16 gigs per dim but now there's two new technologies double-height double capacity 32 gig ddr4 modules this is one from tzaddik tzaddik and g.skill has also announced them with the trade NZ RGB DC which I mentioned stands for double the capacity short right and it makes sense sensible not just the double height double capacity 32 gig modules though but also 16 gigabit ddr4 chips from Samsung so fans of you guys either would I don't know if there'd be dice but either way it doubles the capacity of memory so now have two hundred and twenty eight gigs possible for 32 gig dims not even gdt yeah well that would match what you can currently do in the high-end desktop with 16 gigs in dims and the high-end desktop and eight memory slots you can do a hundred and twenty eight gigs currently but they have not confirmed anything beyond the new 19 9900 k9 700k 9600 K no report on whether this will be supported for like 8000 series processors nothing on whether it will be supported on the high-end desktop officially if it is the high-end desktop would be able to support up to 256 gigs of memory which would be exciting for certain people who use After Effects a lot or something rich yeah and who are rich because obviously this would be very expensive memory is one of the most expensive parts in the computer among the top three at least and at four by four at four by sixteen gig kit right now if you wanted to max out 64 gigs right now it'll cost you about five hundred and fifty dollars for a full kit of ddr4 2666 so Anandtech speculates that a 4 by 32 gig kit could easily cost double that or sometimes even more because you know when it's the fastest or the best of the most capacity capacious you know it costs even more so 1200 to $600 $600 is what they speculated or three hundred to four hundred dollars per memory module okay well they can have a memory module that costs just a single one that cost just as much as like a 8700 k baby Jesus that interesting thing to talk about I wonder if they're gonna do CC with this as well cuz I need to swap out memories well that is one of the main reasons why they're doing it is for smaller form factors so you can have two dimm slots with 32 gigs of memory installed yeah so who knows maybe alright moving on though from memory to storage or SSD storage there's a couple SSDs that would come out I like SSDs because they're fast and everything and there's two SSDs that are just out launching and both of them are interesting for two different reasons so I will share that with you this is the SSD review who did a review on this SSD haha Corsair for series MP 5 10 MP 500 has already existed from coarser the MP 510 shown in this picture here is a new one and it's using a phase on PS five zero one two dash E twelve eight channel nvme controller this is apparently a controller if you read the article it's a very it's a very exciting controller because it's there's just a lot of potential match it up with some real fast flash memory and have a very fast SSD which is kind of what Corsair has done with this one the MP 510 supports the latest nvme 1.3 protocol and it's available in 240 gig 480 gig 960 gig and 1920 gig capacities the one they tested was the 160 gig or roughly 1 terabytes they found for example it is a dual sided m dot 2 Drive which means it's got chips on both sides of the PCB which you know isn't unheard of but it's less common there's a close-up of the actual controller the memory is Toshiba 3d BICS 64 layer TLC NAND flash speaking of Toshiba friend of the show yeah the ICS flash hey there you go each of the raw value of turning 56 gigs at least on this one and they peel off the sticker which is why I can see it says void right there there in a bunch of tests though and it's very fast and the reason I bring this up is because it's actually fast and certain tests it's very comparable or competitive with Samsung's like 970 Pro 970 Evo I'm sure currently like the fastest nvme SSDs so you've got a little bit of competition here from Corsair with this drive three thousand four hundred and eighty megabytes per second read in there testing three thousand megabytes per second rates 610,000 read I ops and five hundred and seventy thousand right I apps that's I believe four KQ depth 16 or kita 32 testing that they're doing also has a five-year warranty and supposed to be available right now although not currently listed on Amazon but here I just moved the camera day in here off we'll fix the camera just above a thing it's supposed to be two hundred and forty dollars for the 968 version though one hundred and twenty five dollars for the 480 gig version $66 for the two hundred and forty gig version so 66 bucks for like a really fast nvme SSD for I'm 240 gigs is a ton of space but that would be a very nice like operating system drive or even hundred and twenty-five dollars for the 480 gig version that's that's pretty nice too good although I believe these performance what's scared scaled down a little bit depending on the capacity that you got the one terabyte version is 240 Dan they're coming down Bryce yeah so so that's like hotcakes and actually the article that's nice wood grain there in the article there's the actual chart here where you can see waiting for crucial to come out with an nvme end up to you ya know price for the two terabyte version yet but you can see like you get a pretty decent drop in sequential reads though like from 3,000 to 2,000 to 1050 so the 960 gig is kind of the sweet spot when it comes to capacity as well as performance nice alright next SSD because that said there was a couple and this is our article tech gauge by our boy Rob this is a crucial nvme SSD and crucial is very popular manufacturer of SSD they do other stuff too but they do a lot of really popular SSDs that are like very fast and very reasonable way I thought you were talking about the crucial SSD this whole time and now as your ser Jesus Christ okay I'm with you on to crucial this is the p1 series significant mainly in that it is crucial first nvme SSD and if you're into like SSDs and you like the speed of SATA like jumpin up tenant nvme especially like the convenience of MDOT to and being able to just slot it into a motherboard you don't need to about cables running power to it or anything like that that's super nice so crucial x' p1 is available in a one terabyte and a 500 gig version it's is currently available available on Amazon yeah look right there one terabyte for 220 dollars 500 gig version for a hundred and ten dollars looks like it's pretty much all black so you know good on them so that should match and all that good stuff and speeds are pretty decent too not as super fast as the Corsair force MP 510 or like the Samsung min 70 pro but still two thousand megabytes per second reads and seventeen hundred megabytes per second writes for the one terabyte version and then nineteen hundred megabytes per second reads and nine hundred and fifty megabytes per second writes for the 500 gig version so again the rights the rights tend to drop off for a lot of these just because typically it's because the controller on the SSD can't but when they reduce the capacity they remove chips the controller has a certain number of channels you remove one of those chips then suddenly it's not able to take advantage of all the channels they can use at the same time that's not always the case but it commonly is yeah pretty reasonably priced for this one too and cool that a little bit more competition in the space especially since prices have come way down moving on Qualcomm has announced 60 gigahertz 802 dot 11a why why Wi-Fi chips yes a why but why 802 I love an a hoc bring in 5g speeds with wire equivalence latency or so they say no which is nice bullshit so these chips which are available now should significantly improve wireless performance via the 802 that 11 a why standard delivering 10 plus gigabit per second network speeds wirelessly oh excuse me ya know if you follow our show you might have remember when we talked about the Wi-Fi Alliance renaming all of the 802 dot 11 variations to Wi-Fi for Wi-Fi five and Wi-Fi six for example Wi-Fi six is a tornado 2.11 a xy5 five is a toe 2.11 and I believe so I don't know if this a why is gonna be Wi-Fi seven or anything like that Qualcomm is just just going with the old naming scheme instead of the new one these chipsets are not intended for home routers though they could end up in virtual reality and augmented reality devices so that's kind of interesting I don't know it's like headsets or something like that there's not a whole lot of detail on like the actual links here anything they say why are cool why are equivalent latency but then I guess that would make sense I mean a chair wireless agent yeah but there there's also some limitations though but the support here of course is for this 60 gigahertz millimeter wave band and they also support the existing Wi-Fi standards 2.4 gigahertz and 5 gigahertz but the advantage of this millimeter wave sixty-year it's Wi-Fi is that there is not much interference on that bandwidth to slow things down but the disadvantage is that 60 Hertz waiking is a short-range wireless technology and it's not that great at penetrating obstacles like walls so again something you might see being useful for something like a Riviera Wireless VR headset where you're in an enclosed room or something where you the whatever is broadcasting wirelessly to the headset is you know line-of-sight or something like that so maybe we'll see what sort of devices this technology is integrated into soon because the chipsets are available today but of course it's up to third parties to integrate them into products that they might bring for sale cool next up you know we we've talked a little bit about the verge I'm on the show before Kyle well I never smile every mile did a video and you know they cut along the ridge got a lot of flack um you know in the past month or so because I heard made a video about making building a computer and and and you know maybe some of it was deservedly so but I thought we'd try to make amends and maybe give The Verge another chance going back and seeing if they've brought things back to some hard-hitting technical content so uh-oh what's going on over there okay what do we got uh Apple has fixed its new bagel emoji with cream cheese and a dough your consistency what it's riveting article by NYX stat as we can see here Apple's emoji for the bagel here on the left Wow dry crusty obviously not like flavor going on there look on the right though you know the bagel itself has been bulked up it's got cream cheese ice cream cheese a nice even layer of cream cheese applied beneath you know and this is really the content that people go into the verge you're looking for the image guided by emoji PDF this was first spotted by Jeremy Burch of emoji pedia of course and it is this is literally about a bagel emoji this is the most significant update to anything that Apple has come out with this year I think I think is what this boils now you see before and after as I can see Philadelphia Cream Cheese with the relevance but actual so I'm it's so basic I'm confused is this really an article about bagel emojis yes okay Apple innovation and it's focused the verge on the cutting edge of journalists all right moving up really noted yes please as previously mentioned my half is gonna be slightly on the shorter side so YouTube still down apparently YouTube still being streamed to with no issues apparently over here so it says we have no viewers is that right but hopefully YouTube is still receiving us if not I will have to do extra work tomorrow to pull this off of twitch and post on YouTube but that's fine all right we have a quick sponsor spot to share with you guys there she goes and sponsored awesome hardware for the month of October raise your hat and we of course thank them for their support you sure do and in exchange we are sharing a little bit of information about some Toshiba products with you guys it's kind of how sponsorship works what we have are SSDs and we like SSDs because they're very fast and responsive storage devices Toshiba has a type of flash memory called BICS flash it is pretty fast and it's also not terribly expensive to produce which means they can make products based on it that are reasonably priced and also very fast as flash storage is concerned what Cal is unboxing right now is the OCZ RC 100 which is a little MDOT to nvme SSD you get over a thousand megabytes per second read and write speeds on this tiny of the local MDOT 220 240 to drive I believe it's the length of it there so super small and compact kind of cute too but also quite fast they've also got 2.5 inch drives like the TR 200 available here so if you're looking for a storage standard that's a little bit more widely compatible are you just looking for extra storage like use this for your operating system Drive and then use this for like all your games and stuff like but yeah links to some Toshiba SSDs based on BICS flash technology are down in this video's description so check those out thanks again to to thanks again to Toshiba for sponsor we got some hard work you can find links in the description of my YouTube video that's currently not active or - oh yeah yeah totally that's assuming you - nature ever recovers I mean it's possible YouTube has just given up then we're out of a job and just yeah I mean I guess I'll have to figure out something else to do freaking out right now time to go be a full time twitch streamer I know there's no video there's people benefit is that we now have 1600 viewers on Twitter cuz everyone's migrated from the non-working you to look at this we regular hi it's a record high pretty high up there on the talk show list at this point and have you noticed that the the twitch delay is only like three seconds it's so quick that's awesome I wonder if it has anything to do with like I don't know maybe twitch is like it's time to leave mark may shed maybe this evening was like the moment of the twitch ambush on using like they they they somehow sabotage YouTube yep and at the same time they made their shit like all all hooked and that's what's going on now anyway though let's move on this isn't the sponsor spot anymore elses sword fight oh sorry that's right sorry fight is where Kyle and I take up opposing sides and to argue about stuff typically it is very controversial or stuff that people are arguing about so a big thank you to cell processing our awesome moderator like so we love you that today we're posting some links to this pretty strong if you guys want to go ahead and render your vote on that straw poll please go ahead and do so or or you can wait you can wait listen to our arguments patients that have zoomed maybe that will sway your opinion in some way you might first off though and we talked pretty extensively about the RT X 2070 launch which was today while the I'm sorry the launch is actually tomorrow the embargo lifts for reviews performance reviews was today so tomorrow October 17th you're supposed to be able to buy r-tx 20 70s at retailers like online retailers or whatever for 500 theoretically according to Nvidia because they were very very strict about making sure that $500 versions of the r-tx 20 70s got into reviewers hands what is the opinion of people today on the eve of these becoming available will you actually be able to get an RT X 20 74 or $500 tomorrow or like beyond you know the first five minutes that they go up for sale or however long it takes for them to sell out also we're not sure you know as far as the quantity that will be available tomorrow if it's a huge amount or if it's you know just enough to get some stock in to say that was for sale we got a few options here Cal and I usually argue between the first couple of them but you know feel free to cruise if you want mmm okay I feel like the top two or the ones we have to argue over yes indeed um and I'm gonna say damn I feel like there's always you know it's never black and white with these types of things so I'm gonna say yes there has to be i I wish I could scratch out the idea promised part um that's the a little bit of editorial in every answer I think really stings a little so my theory is that you will be able to buy in RTX 2070 tomorrow for $4.99 or whatever because NVIDIA has probably learned their lesson to some degree they've learned their lesson a little too late in my opinion where you know people have given them so much shit from the r-tx 2080 and 20 atti launch and how you weren't able to buy either of those cards on launch day for the prices that were suggested there's actually still Kansas you still can't 2080 I for sure you can you still can't and I feel like Nvidia is trying to say faced by almost enforcing maybe retailers to Nvidia is everything like their their control freaks they always have been and they're really starting to show their teeth now for this launch in particular and I think they're gonna force Adam board partners and retailers to sell at least some cards for $4.99 on launch day at the very least I think that's gonna happen now how many exactly exactly what are you arguing for me now Paul because that's exactly I was gonna say is that they're gonna sell out really quick because there probably aren't gonna be very many at all that are selling for that price and the vast majority of them that you know 99% of people will be able to actually buy are gonna be grossly overpriced well beyond $4.99 what's so the 20/80 supposed to be seven $6.99 $7.99 yes yes base and founders Edition yeah so cheapest is 790 on PC part picker for gigabyte windforce version almost a hundred bucks on the suggested starting price so yeah available for so I'm not confident at all and it is it is available and in stock at new ache for 790 dots so available yes but at the founders Edition price not only not the not the fake entry-level price that they try to tease people with all right so I think NVIDIA is just kind of like you know they're gonna you know if people give them shit on launch day it's like well we really have any cards you know for $4.99 at least nvidia will have something to point to be like hey look we had five r-tx 2080s in stock for $4.99 we told you guys that we would have some of these cards for that price on launch day so technically we weren't lying it's just it's just very far off from what you were expecting but you know we held up our end of the bargain which is why there's there's no black or white here their promise is a lie your move so you are saying yes there will be there will be but that's not a good thing okay that's not a good thing it's a that's not the whole story then there will be but inventory will be severely limited no one will be able no one will be able to buy so that's a great transition because that kind of means you're arguing for my answer which is that no way the five hundred dollar cards are vaporware or you know at bests again like a few stock here and there like nvidia sent out this requirement to the manufacturers that all right you guys have to make this happen you know you don't have to make it happen everywhere and then I have to be widely available it just needs to happen enough that you have some of these cards to send to the reviewers and that there's a few available in stock here and there on launch day after that after they sell out don't worry about it produce your your $600 cards and focus on those and you know we'll probably never see a $500 RTX 2070 again I can see this happening and I will actually be pretty irritated if this happens this is actually something I'm gonna watch and I could I I can kind of feel myself on the verge of making a video about being angry about it because I would feel personally tricked because with all the reviews that went up today and this is something that I addressed in my video like I heard something that I hadn't really heard before which was that there was a bit of a not a restriction but a requirement I guess you can call it a restriction for the reviews that went up which is that nobody who covers an RT X 2070 should not have a $500 version of the card everyone who covers the r-tx 2070 should have the $500 version of the card and if they're covering the RT X 2070 they have to cover that 500 dog version of the card and then you can also cover other versions too but like it's time savvy and it starts off with that base level requirement of cover in that which i think is also misleading if the $500 cards are available come tomorrow and stay available in ample quality in their reasonable quantities right now for the next few months or through the holiday season we didn't we can resume then I'm more okay with it because then I covered a card that people can buy yeah if it didn't if they're not if they sell out immediately if Nvidia pulls the same crap that they did put the GTX 1070 they make where they were like three hundred and eighty-nine bucks there's three hundred and seventy-nine bucks whatever the entry-level price was for that right and it was at least fifty dollars more which is a which is a decent chunk more at that price point and it was you know it was it's it actually hasn't even been until just recently that you could actually buy them for that cheap right as the price prices came down after the mining craze subsided but if that's the case they're making us reviewers look like assholes because our viewers are our reviews are based on a $4.99 card that we're projecting to the world and no one can buy it for that price and it's making us like say these things about a card that doesn't exist it doesn't exist and yet in videos telling us will like review it as if it's this as if this is the reality that's not the reality so that's no until launch after our reviews go live in my review the only way that I felt I could be fair about it was to say here's a five hundred dollar card and here is a hundred dollar card and they each have their own bar graphs you know that they each separately so you can look at that $600 card and say here's what you get and it's overclocked in whatever and it's like more representative of the potential performance of the twenty seventy GPU that's at the heart of it versus here's what you get for five hundred bucks and if you're not someone who's ever gonna overclock your GPU or something that's all you get for five hundred bucks because you're gonna be sticking with the base frequencies and everything so anyway point being I will be somewhat curious tomorrow to see how things go but that's also kind of why I wanted to ask this question tonight - so people think in this time of uncertainty alright we have one more question but let's see the results for this one first and everyone says no everyone agrees with me everyone is cynical that they don't trust in Vidya 500 cards will not $500 cards will not be available over half 55% and that's with the inclusion of full dummy answers Wow Kyle really playing doubles ever since trust public trusted Nvidia like I have no idea if anyone from Nvidia are associated with Nvidia ever watches this show but I mean that's 30 30 34 people work for Nvidia that's not good 34 people work for in you know I mean maybe you don't care cuz certain products are gonna sell anyway and maybe I mean that's okay I guess I mean it's a business that's a business decision Oh Sumer is wrong for voting this way if the r-tx 2018 2080 launches proof complete otherwise like or prove the same thing that despite their promise of a starting price of X amount we saw none of it and and had zero fucking availability so whatever control Nvidia is able to exert over this launch if they're doing it in a way that could be perceived as consumer friendly it would be allocating a lot of these twenty seventy GPUs to be $500 versions if they did that and with a significant amount of those then they'll be available for 500 bucks and some of the people who voted and said no way and that's not gonna happen might look and be like oh I guess I was wrong or you know they actually did do that I feel like given all the negativity that they've caught because of the pricing they've gone with for the twenty series launched so far that is like the one thing that could you know bring it back ever so slightly but again and number two response here and this is something that I you know it was very intentional for me to include 500 bucks on a graphics card is such a crazy amount to spend for so many people for such a large portion of the people who are considering building a gaming PC yeah and and I feel like even with even if in video does have a bunch of having a dog the fact that the discussion has become this bubble of like 500 to $800 cards that people are talking about versus you know a lower down bubble is it's kind of a success for NVIDIA because they've already raised the price point in people's minds and I think that's why they so heavily focused on r-tx like they were trying to convince us that we needed something we didn't know we needed yeah like our TX you need it in your life it was like that Tom's Hardware article do you really want to be on your deathbed and you know your life flash before your eyes and none of it be rate raced like like you're bringing up a point that no one's ever humanly thought about before and you're trying to make it like all of a sudden it's this essential necessity to life like no one needs any of the the fluff that comes included with these cards that right now isn't really even included with these cards it's the teller trying to justify the price and like I like we all suspected no one's buying it both literally and figuratively all right next question for sword fight is specifically about awesome Hardware now as you guys may or may not be aware like about a month ago ago or so we sort of made some slight changes very slight changes to awesome hardware's format and I just wanted to ask this question sort of to get a little you guys and also of course argue amongst ourselves as we always do about how successful those changes have been so of course we have a wide variety of options here for any responses from adequately successful all the way up to extremely successful and I'm imagining you guys will be able to choose your response in the meantime though okay what do you think extremely successful Paul okay I was about to say you went first on the first time so I'm just kidding now just kidding us no it was but you know you're obviously going to pick extremely successful I'm gonna go with very successful very successful cow and I'll say why we used to do an after party in the first I don't know gear 2 of the show there was I don't want to say we were consistent but there was some amount of regularity you know there was at least a decent chance it was gonna happen and that fail fell off and it was understandably so from our perspective because awesome hardware is a show that takes a decent amount of planning beforehand we try to read up on the articles and have some notes so we can kind of go through it in a somewhat punchy fashion going through all that finishing and then going you know one of us going home and then jumping back on for another gaming stream while often it was fun it's also like still a stream and so you know it was very tiring for us so we eventually just kind of cut that out now though with this new format the the the after party is a little bit more built into it mm-hmm so you know obviously there are a few people who have said that you know they like the old format better for this reason or that reason but I think we've made a couple changes couple additional slight changes to hopefully accommodate those people too and I think for that reason it's been a very successful change and we do the the after party more frequently we look forward to the after party more often and the show itself when we're paying attention is a little bit more concise and direct and to-the-point yes Kyle I am saying extremely successful for all the reasons you've just listed bullshit yeah I mean you basically crafted my entire my entire argument you keep arguing I'm gonna grab thank you thank you so much please do um yeah I mean I think it's been extremely successful I call me an optimist but I feel like we've we've kind of you know I think that there needed to be some sort of progression from the place where we were and the fact of the matter is not everyone has the time to watch a two to two and a half hour or even three hour livestream people are busy people have their lives and you know the world doesn't revolve around Paul and I ooh Newcastle thank you very much and so I think by keeping it more concise and slightly shorter more people are able to join us live we get that greater interaction from live chat than we have in the past because more people are able to tune in and and even the rebroadcast you can't catch a slide either way can still enjoy the rebroadcast because it's half an hour per side instead of an hour to an hour and a half much more digestible what the fuck is guess I think all the glass away agrees so I think it's been extremely successful I think maybe very successful is accurate for for right now but I think in the long term I think long term that it will eventually be the extremely successful change that we've been looking for for quite some time very very forward-looking yes I'm confident thank you okay let's see what everyone at home thought how successful have these slight changes to awesome hardware show format meant let's let's check the results looks like most people said I did not realize there is a change meaning the changes excuse excessed by blending in seamlessly like in in general we also very successful adequately successful and and yes there there was there was a thinly veiled negative answer if anyone didn't didn't say that they didn't like them we got 11 percent of the votes and again guys we do appreciate the feedback I'm happy that it seems like the vast majority people are happy with it on some level and I don't see it I was about to I was about to say something that something that might happen but I didn't want to promised anything you didn't want to be a pulling invidia so like I have to imagine that there is some software or website or something somewhere that can pull a twitch stream and just just just make the audio into a podcast right I have is Aleve that's a thing cuz that's what we've been asked that's the one request that I feel like I've gotten most on the show there's people who are like I just listened to it like I put it on you know because that's long-form content that's what it's very useful people put it on and I listen to it while they do something else and I'm flattered that anyone would want to do that with this stuff yeah we're saying right now so I feel like if we could do that if we could take the twitch stream part of it just the whole thing and feed it into a podcast on a weekly basis mm-hmm then it would then I feel like everyone would be satisfied anyone who wanted to just watch the bits of the that are kind of more tech news could do that if you watch the after party it's still linked there we watch the whole thing you can you just want to listen to it you can too but like I said that's something that I've only thought about I haven't actually done yet twitch leecher is that a thing twitch leecher twitch leecher says memento mori let's look into that perhaps okay but guys that's gonna wrap it up for my half of the show as as theoretically stream to youtube this does say that we're still streaming to YouTube so I'm gonna cut the YouTube right now and thank you guys if this is streaming properly to youtube we're watching and again links to everything is in the description including a link to cows have the show assuming that worked properly or maybe YouTube is just dead forever maybe we're gonna continue with a bit of after-party cow actually has even more content planned for that I do you see yeah your submissions will be heard we're gonna read over some some donation comments since and Johnson's another but for now thank you guys so much for watching and thumbs up button if you enjoyed it and bye YouTube bye it's the first time we've cut YouTube and like
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