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logo stuff or anything like that because this is a supposedly and exclusive but some first AMD Navi GPU information and honestly the information is that it has 40 compute units exclusive as in like WCF tech gets an exclusive know it put exclusive at the beginning of the article it makes it more important in special keywords SEO I mean usual aunty blah Blee it means that the outlet has some reasonable means of expecting that they are the first to publish this disinformation right well when you make up all your stories you can be the first to publish anything whoa zing burn just kidding um but yeah honestly honestly like this Guzman did a great job kind of kind of padding material to this article leave you the actual information is forty compute units which is good which is good to know it's a good to know that as forty computing it's also the codename that's the second thing now v12 which is slightly different than the expectation right the code name would be ten if they went with like the Polaris naming schemes that they'd done whether they've done like ten twenty thirty you would expect it to be 10 knots well so there was a little bit of confusion about that potential speculation as to where this GPU is gonna end up but um also speculation as to the total number of stream processors which if it uses the same ratio of stream processors to compute units that GCN architecture has been using it would be 64 per compute unit which would give you a total of 2,560 stream processors but that is speculation other than that na'vi 12 was not going to be the GPU that gets featured in the playstation 5 although na'vi is the architecture that AMD has said is what they're developing the playstation 5 GP with just not maybe this specific one it'll probably be not quite as I don't know it'll just be its own thing yes percent sure this would be an upgrade from Polaris 30 it would probably go into a Radeon 600 series of GPUs Radeon 680 rx 680 maybe something like that 600 just seems so much less or so much fewer than 2080 or 2,000 but you have to also remember that both both sides whether you're talking AMD or ATI and NVIDIA have had both they've done four-digit numbers and they both done three-digit number I know these variations I know so it's the marketing the marketing bullshit is getting to me 600 I mean it's confusing order you have end up having to readers and everything yeah but anyway is this actually going to be a product that launches maybe early estimates put it at the first half of 2019 so next year which isn't that far off if we're already in mid-november right now and then there are some some more points made at the end of the article specifically to AMD's roadmap again this is just from WCF tech so it might be true might not but we'll read it anyway Vega 7 nanometre will not be coming to gamers Oh they've recently done some stuff with Vega 7 nanometre chances are that's going to go into their machine intelligence and then the machine learning stuff first before we see it in AGP that's made for gamers but the Navi 12 it says will be a small GPU based on seven nanometer so that's appears to contradict the bullet point before it um but I guess I think so about Nobby 10 Bobby told you the first time be part trigger I arrived in the first at 20 19 havi 10 has been either scrapped or will follow later on depending on a couple of factors the performance of this part will be equal to Big O I'm sorry nah be not be 10 right see I should read the full sentence first before I ah cast aspersions on it alright so now B 10 might still be around and would be 7 nanometre right now B 12 minutes happy maybe that's why it's called a b12 because it's Nobby nanometre yeah that would make sense hey see we've seen you heard it here first guys this is exclusive it was mod to dot point that out I don't think he said that anywhere here that not be 12 the 12 might refer to 12 nanometer see since this is right since when do tech naming schemes make sense through that has a breakthrough that they're supposed to MIT not make sense and just be confusing that's readable the trend that's right up there with my recommendation which came after the fact when AMD released Rison which was that AMD really should have done instead of rising three five and seven matching Intel's oh yeah core i3 five to four inches and risin no four six and eight to me one up when you have rising four six and eight which would be a number above what Intel had higher number that's better and rise in four rise in six and rise at eight could match up to the number of cores in each CPU ah it's a no-brainer but ambe's like now we don't do that we're gonna copy Intel I think you found your calling Paul you belonging right now or can I should I mean hey until the YouTube thing falls through anyway though just splash beer and opportunity in glasses you can have that one for free AMD yep just so you know you told them thanks to them it's time they could do that with like the next generation yeah I know gonna be interesting all right other than that moving on this morning at 6 a.m. Pacific Standard Time the embargo lifted for the new Intel Core i $9.99 80 x ii the extreme edition the successor to the 79 80 XC previous top-end 18 core processor available on Intel's LJ 2066 platform 4 X 299 motherboards and a bunch of people tested it and everyone was like man hmm for $2,000 oh yeah I have to I have to say I was I was somewhat impressed with the universal Matt response of this but it's somewhat expected I had a really really short amount of time to do my video on I ever saw it I did not do a full review video like I would normally do just kind of did what I could do yesterday but there were quite a few other people did full reviews and tests on it it's really really really really really similar to the 79 80 XE it's the same price that's still 40 nanometer it does have a soldered IHS rather than not soldered so that potentially gives it a little bit better cooling performance but Intel's still being tricky with their turbo boost tables and not being completely forthright with those and how they work and what it runs at out of the box it runs at a pretty conservative frequency 3 gigahertz base but I found it actually ran it less than that depending on what instruction sets are being used and everything um but still what was the lowest it was running at two point eight two point we got Hertz for me yeah but still if you take a ninety nine eight exe at stock and you run it any compare it to a 79 80 XC at stock it will be a little bit faster but if you run them both at the same frequency they're essentially the same we've seen this before it's like if you took a skylake 6700 canned a 70 cent and a KB like 7700 K you had clocked them the same they're the same yeah the same inside sure so it is another option that's out there present' intel's new motto same inside it's the same inside we've made no changes just we don't we jacked up that product SKU name by 2000 which gives the impression that it's 2000 faster the only thing different is the price no the price is the same - I mean if you want to give them credit they at least what I've been charged more 7700 cave excuse me so this thing is supposed to be not as great of a like liquid cooled overclocking chip right as the 79 80 XE yeah so was that true I mean so so I actually did watch all the main reviews though about not I want to say all I can't say that but I watched hardware connects and gamers Texas and Starbucks hardware unboxed and I read a few articles on this and stuff just just sort of get an assessment of kind of kind of what the what was going on and there are a few specific things that were pointed out so Steve from gamers Nexus pointed out that the solder that they're using with these new 9000 series processors like the 9900 Kay and everything it's it's a better solution than the crappy thermal paste that they were using before but you can still get better performance by deleting and using liquid metal but it's a lot harder to delete a soldered processor and I don't know that anyone has attempted that with their $2,000 engineering sample CPUs that Intel has sent out so it's harder in the sense where you risk more there's a higher risk of damaging there's a high risk of damaging it um and remains to be seen with these CPUs because there's not a whole lot of them out there and I don't like I said I don't know very many people who tried it yet I don't know after Bauer has gone it Steve de linhas no I don't believe so I got in there and there it must be missed it must be really hard to do it if Steve hasn't deleted his yes useless like one of the first things I mean it may be something that he's there doing a live stream to day after tomorrow I think yeah where they're gonna overclock it I don't know if he's gonna do it prior to that or anything but point being all else being equal the 79-80 XE might be a better choice for somebody who's interested in extreme overclocking because it's much it's a much easier process to delayed and replace the thermal material versus the 99 80 XE whereas the 90 90 DX e you would expect to have the highest min chips until is is cranking out for these processors so it's the highest end overclocking people are gonna do Ellen to stuff and whatever for people who try to like break World Records you're probably gonna see that being done on this processor but right it's kind of funny how the whole that whole thing that whole feature sort of bit us in the ass we're like the whole time we were just ranting and raving like slaughtered Tim slaughtered today we're probably getting Sun or Tim and then in the end we find out like actually it's not as good as as we thought and it's actually making the deal in process to make things better more difficult well that's excuse me I'm that's kind of a night shyamalan like I'm sure I know in some instances it is it is better for people who don't want to deal it it's also like the question of like counterbore how much better is it like if you can get any improvements then then there's gonna be some people who are interested in deleting even if it's a soldered chip right um but the variance in and the difference between doing that not is that's that's what it's gonna come down to that's sure we'll have to see how many people it's never what it seems they're gonna attack their $2,000 $79.99 ATX II and I tried to do the literate and let's see how that goes in the future but yeah other than that yeah everyone with $2,000 you'd attend nothing else to do is go go don't buy one of those there's actually there that's another thing I pointed out there's there's a very cost-effective potential option in the 9900 K if you're going for stuff that really likes single thread performance and high frequency and of course thread rippers there if you do need the high court count stuff at a much much more reasonable price - price per core or price price - Rossi Piedmont might be a while - you can get it for a reasonable price though reasonable from the 900k oh yeah yeah I mean the ninety-nine hundred K is a reasonable option to just go out and buy right now that yeah that might be even less Oh ran that yeah the girl with her name is under going for like seven eight hundred dollars yeah that's pretty silly okay moving on though more news this is from OC 3d net and they were actually following up on an article posted by the Japanese gaming website for gamer who interviewed the RTGS Radeon technology groups senior vice president of engineering seen here David Wang OC 3d followed up to clarify some of the stuff that had been posted because the Jap the original article which was in Japanese was had some robo translators that translated it into English and you had some miscommunication going on about what was actually being said and what AMD is expecting so to clarify some people were saying that AMD was saying that they're not going to have ray tracing support until all of their cards have ray tracing support which is a little weird but OSI 3d contacted this dude on Twitter who's a native Japanese speaker and he went and did a more direct translation mr. Wang was basically saying that AMD will definitely respond to the XR DirectX ray tracing after proposing that this is a personal view but for the time being AMD is providing it free of charge what providing ray tracing I guess support for DX are like that's just something that in the next in the next upcoming generation of graphics card it will just be there maybe that ties in with the fact that they'll have it support on every card like even the low end will like you wanted to pay a premium it won't just be on the high end car yeah that makes sense or like that would make sense as a sort of a little dig at Nvidia and saying like you're not gonna have to pay $800 plus for the RT X series of grace that actually have this support it also sounds like they're trying to like make an excuse to delay it further like oh well we have to wait for every single card to have it that's why that was that was it that was not that's not true those knows of a miscommunication oh oh was that actually I didn't read this at all so is that something that was brought up that's what I said oh sorry sorry I was reading chat that originally there was a rich they were originally says why don't we check Robo translated articles oh we're from the original Japanese article uh-huh that gave people the impression that he was saying that I see but it doesn't have been clarified that that's not what he's saying he's just saying that yes we do expect to have our tech support in upcoming AMD Radeon products not a whole lot of further detail beyond that just that yes it's something I'm working on something they're gonna do you did say that for now they are focusing on improving the offline CD production environment centered on Radeon Pro render so is it going to be more sofa okay yeah so they do have a ready I guess more specific solution as compared to the direct X ray tracing which is DirectX so Windows but yeah I mean just just a little bit update for anyone who's super impressed by all the ray tracing stuff okay so far we have we even seen it in action in a real world environment that's not an Nvidia demo still haven't I don't think we have Oh God go away okay all right that's all we have for that next up Amazon let's picked two new locations for their two new headquarters the moon HQ 2 is gonna be to Mars Hughes we got New York City okay and we got Northern Virginia close second Northern Virginia okay and then there's also a location that's gonna be opened up in Nashville Tennessee we will create more than 5,000 jobs so like I was I was seeing people this was all over this is blowing up on Twitter today and it's it's interesting to read about it's like you can take the you can take Amazon site and be like yes they're expanding and prospering and spreading drop jobs the company plans to employ more than 25,000 people at each location it's a job jobs that's good but the amount of government subsidies that they are getting is just is just absolutely ridiculous which which was in the article somewhere which is the government giving them five billion dollars no they're gonna spend five billion Amazon I thought I was gonna I thought it was listed in this article I actually don't have notes on this article which is why I'm I'm not pulling this information up immediately those look like that I can do or but a giant but this is Amazon headquarters in Seattle by the way that boobs are but would you vote it's a throne Enchantix boobs yeah they got a bunch of government subsidies so you know that's a part of it but sure what I'm being wouldn't want their HQ in their country or city Amazon they will soon rule us all hail hell Bay's us and no that's not true Amazon is too big they're no they're not I don't know it's like a sometimes I try to I try to get a grasp on like global economics and stuff and like him like I could figure this out make some suggestions for how it should work no it's to global that's too big to it's I can't think using I can't think on that it's not doing during the show this show is not about solutions you know we haven't done a lot talk about problems we haven't done them haven't done oh joy I should bring that segment back you should it's like a bunch of depressing shit with no we should we should have plenty of stories these days for that segment every that's why it's too real we can do a full we can do a full oh joy episode where it's just you know and like we should do an ODI where we just drink twice as much as usually as usual and then every episodes to every every article is incredibly depressing super debauchery alright the fraud debauchery versus depression moving on to physics thank you for the beer yes indeed physics physics makes us all its bitches physics and the governing body of weights and measures which is known as the General Conference on weights and measures or the cgpm is gonna be changing four basic units of measurements in the metric system what yeah why because just to fuck with people just just so people commit your customs already better than our system yeah well the metrics is fine change it is I try to use it because it makes it's a very sensible system it's easy that's like like anyone who's business metric to speak it's just easy yeah easy yeah remember and every five by ten but they are gonna be doing some updates to for specific no units terrible idea the kilogram the ampere the mole and the Kelvin indeed that's right okay so Kyle I'm gonna I'm gonna quiz you on what each of these is amperes amps you can define the ampere it's a electricity yes how much I believe electricity measures how much electric flow or current is going through a a medium that's not that's not too far I know that's a half complete definition it's like you got a Coulomb which is instantaneous and Peter actually has has time in it there oh that's right unit of electrical deterrent per second or millisecond one Coulomb per second so ampere okay cool um that's a whole other it's a whole other definition equity room is like it's like a Joule it's like we we we like to know some watts and everything like that and then there's a whole other it's like it's like you add time or not had time and the terminal right changes and there's there's terminology that's more popular versus the other ones that seem like more old-school and archaic but they're still there and everything sure anyway though I never say Coulomb and like the spec sheet so yes that's why I don't kilogram kilogram is the slightly more interesting one and a kilogram is these are all SI units which is standard scientific yes si yes meeting at your own game yeah I knew what that meant at some point I don't know but the kilogram is actually based on the weight of a specific thing oh look the verge has a picture of it which is that thing right so dare you bring the version of this ship I know sorry that's a cylinder which is made of platinum iridium alloy that is housed specifically at a bell jar in France and they do occasionally remove it too way it's and get specific measures against things but it's gonna be updated and the cgpm which has sixty member nations will be voting to change the system to one that will be defined indirectly rather than basing it on this cylindrical hunk of metal there they will now base it on the planck constant no that will base it on a tool a tool that's used to provide the new base unit which is the kibble balance which sounds like you're way hip dog food yeah dog for kibble balance it sounds like a much more but despite the name and the kibble balance is a very complex piece of equipment equipment the first measures the amount of electricity the electric current necessary to create an electromagnetic force that is equal to a force acting on a given mass it is during the second stage of this measurement period that the Planck constant come comes into play and the Planck constant as we all know is is a constant in quantum physics duh now let me give you guys a brief explanation of exactly what that means at least I'll be brief I blacked out for a second there I forgot what we were talking about it sorry I don't locked out electricity reference do what you did there pong always on point me even when you don't know the answer use me Oh at some point okay the point being there using the Planck constants in order to establish a kilogram a kilogram is so prime the kilogram is something that can be a kilogram or more specifically defined they want to get they want to get more specific and this is so that they can develop tools that can measure these values more accurately and that will allow a class of scientists that I was not aware existed called the metrologist s-- which is probably really anal-retentive people they're like I'm sorry you are a nano and like a mic your micrometers short of that measurement they um no I'm sure metrologist sir they're very nice people and and it's important to have accurate accurate measurements of things as well my brain hurts more to the point though for anyone who's sitting here thinking like oh my gosh like I use the metric system like what is this all gonna change oh the two other things by the way here the kilogram also the mole and the Kelvin mole is an animal that is one of the mole has multiple definitions cal this mole I am NOT gonna go into the mole because it's a measure I used to know it more once it's it's it's a measurement of a substance which makes me think it's like that should be what drug dealers used well kilograms kilos which is that's the point being though the ampere kilogram mole and Kelvin get to be changed but the metrologist Tsar involved in this they have acknowledged that most people will neither understand the changes that have taken place and nor noticed that the change has occurred so all of this is wait who doesn't notice that the Train the change has occurred the metrologist s-- reference in the article are saying that most people won't even realize don't understand the changes France the you know unless you have a good grasp of quantum physics sure all right so it doesn't apply to them or or notice that the changes have occurred so again these are being changed but they're being changed very very small ways people whom it's like yeah or smart enough will realize that there's been a change that Lee and unfortunately article does not go into further detail as far as to how they re free quantifying the ampere and and and or the mole or the Kelvin Kelvin is a unit of temperature but what so well the names won't actually change it's just what they're actually representing yeah they're not changing the names they're changing the values feel like an inch for example it's based on like some King in England and he was like my finger should be the basis of measurement and it's like you can't go to that king and measure his finger and be like that's an inch and now we know the exact what is it yeah so yeah it's it's just about like we it's about scientists quantifying the world and using values that can be used interchangeably so that people in different areas can still measure things accurately and compare them to each other which is very useful for scientific study those values need to be updated to see every now and then and all that good stuff make sense I'm on board yes and of course now you are all familiar with this stuff other interesting point the article brought up was that this has been done before pointed out that in 1983 the speed of light they changed the speed of light but they didn't I guess they didn't change the speed of light they updated the definition of the speed of light which is now defined as two hundred ninety nine thousand seven hundred ninety-two sorry 299,792,458 meters per second that's fast that is the speed of light which is very fast and if you're interesting I'm sure it's gonna be riveting the the governing body cgpm we'll be live-streaming this and they okay you have this vote on making these changes okay so it's still up to about you all right one more story here all right this is a plug in plate PC classic console we have shown several retro consoles here like the little mini PlayStation and this is the classic PC right cuz we've got we've got all that other stuff who's that guy for the consoles let's make a PC I don't know he looks like an assassin's Creed care I did not pre watch this video he wearing a robe but there it is as you can see it looks like it's been carved out of asbestos or something like that it's got the classic beige I like his his hoodie that he's got a yeah it's got some where did those ethnic vibes go no that's the Pancho Pancho yeah it's a classic poncho so here is him playing a classic PC game on the classic PC console that was doomed wait let's jump back in a classic poncho it stays doom okay yeah he's playing with a gamepad there get a frame counter up in the corner or something word so I don't 44 hurts oh gee doom everyone should potentially 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so fight the long-running segments we do on the show where Cal and I argue about stuff yay classic today we are going to do a follow up on that thing we were talking about about the scientific units of measurements being recalibrated and what other basic units of measurements do you think need recalibration we got the millimeter of course way too small we got the decibel always confusing the second of course sometimes takes forever sometimes to just stream by too quick very fast rate we got the shit-ton of course the venerable needs to be made more accurate Candela always pisses me off and megahertz cow what you think scoop let's keep these yeah let's keep these brief sure I don't do they warned that much zero how much analysis anyway yeah um I'm gonna have to say people want to know people want to know the answer to this question effect I think a shit-ton shit-ton needs to be redefined because you know it does not it should literally mean a ton of shit when you say that's a shit ton it should be equivalent to a ton of a pile of shit that makes sense to me even though it wouldn't really matter what it's a ton of because it's still a ton people say wow there's a shit ton of beer in this cup no that's that's not a ton at all regardless of the the prefix you attach to it I think that we're misrepresenting that that unit of measurement and we have been for such a long time especially since it's so commonly used in in today's slang vernacular so I rest my case reasonable Kyle you make some strong points there you support your argument well still wrong though because I think the unit of measurement that needs the most recalibration right now is gonna be the second second obviously the one of the more finite measurements of time and dictates our every our every movement like you know you just every second that passes that's another second it's constant it's not ending I just wanted to frigate stop so we need to do we need to figure something out but I won't stop call deal with the second it won't ever stop the other thing I'm trying the other thing I've never really I've been able to figure out myself what I wear is the first like what what do you this we have a second like a second just went by but what happened before that I don't that have been the first dachshund we have all these seconds and no firsts no thirds either that pisses me off pisses me off because you know what was important is winning being first yeah with so many seconds nobody's first but like they say it makes perfect first worst second best so maybe who says that nobody I've never heard anyone say really really that's why I learned that in school from all the first or second best seven year olds yeah first first first worst like when someone would line up in first like and first and everyone everyone behind would say first worst second best and then third was the nerd and fourth nobody was it okay and I see now you struck up like nostalgic I'll come back there it was the nerd did that all come rushing back and hit me like a truck my childhood / - there's truth there's truth in that we were clearly third I don't know I have no idea they were arguing with people getting medicine we need to answer this question right now there it could have been the two results are thank you guys all for putting tile wins with the shit-ton hey Wow let's have us way too much this is weird because we just got a new votes oh wait I get to refresh this we got to update we got it votes coming right now compelling argument votes still being counted it's like that no I'm not gonna talk about that shit son obviously the obviously though people are wanting a more precise definition of that which I I completely agree with yeah yeah decibel though also I'm a problem logarithmic scale just just not something that's immediately easy to grasp people seem to be most happy with the millimeter those so um millimeter here to stay keep doing what you do alright guys that wraps up my half of the show 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