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my coverage of Computex 2017 is brought to you by MSI EVGA Tesoro g.skill and Coolermaster alright guys welcome to my Computex coverage proper and I'm going to start off with the big announcements the big announcement is coming from Intel today and you guys have heard some rumors probably about all the stuff that they are confirming the launch of the I 9 series of what is now going to be known as the core X series of CPUs have a bunch of information going to kind of run down a lot of this for you guys and then towards the end I'm going to give some closing comment arey my thoughts on what they have going on here so this is the newest high-end desktop platform X 299 chipset and LGA 2066 sockets is what the motherboards will be sporting and we're going to have Core i5 core i7 and core i 9 x-series CPUs in this lineup the quinine family is going to include include CPUs that range all the way from four cores all the way up to 18 cores most of them with hyper-threading although at least one of them does not and there's going to be nine CPUs in total in this lineup so that includes a 14 for a 64 and an 18 core CPU that 18 course 50 with hyper threading gives you 36 threads all these are based on 40 nanometers lithography all these CPUs are unlocked for overclocking and of course at the top of this range you have that halo product the chlorine 79-80 Extreme Edition 1800 or 36 thread CPU at $1,999 so this is not going to be cheap it is a good three hundred bucks more than the 69 50 X was when it launched just about a year ago it is the first ever teraflop desktop CPU though at the low end of this entire line if you have the KB Lake X based quad cores the $242 70 640 X that does not have hyper threading so it's a four core 4 thread CPU as well as a $339 77 40 X with hyper-threading that's got 112 watt TDP actually both of those have 112 watt TDP s and both of them are based on a camellia architecture so they're going to be shipping at higher frequencies 4.2 gigahertz and 4.5 gigahertz turbo respectively for the 70 640 X and 77 for the X these two CPUs do have some limitations though compared to the higher and skylake X CPU CPUs in this lineup there limited to dual channel memory and 16 PCI Express gen3 lanes so given that there's also going to be 28 Lane CPUs and 44 Lane CPUs in this nine CPU stack that Intel's launching is probably to be some extremely confusing X 299 motherboard configurations simply because the depending on what CPU you install you're going to have about a 16 28:44 lanes but perhaps more on that as we bring you more coverage throughout this week and perhaps tops of some of the motherboard manufacturers above the kb lake x cpus we have skylake x cpus so these are going to all be all the six core and higher parts they're all going to have quad channel ddr4 memory support and again either 28 4 44 pci express 3.0 lanes and they're listed at 140 watt PDP's for the ones that we have confirmed although they did mention in the documentation that until distributed 165 watt TDP s so some of those some of those highest score counts EPS might be a little bit beyond 140 watts they're all priced from between three hundred ninety dollars and two thousand dollars and you might notice that in the church provided the 14 core 16 corn 18 core parts don't have all the details that are laid out and actually they weren't even included in the original presentation that Intel gave us about a week ago so their TDP might be a hundred and sixty-five watts for those higher end ones but potentially they were added a little bit later in this production cycle so maybe Intel wasn't always planning on doing 14 16 and 18 core CPUs more on that later though the x-series also has support for octane memory and obtain SSDs also turbo boost max 3.0 that's the successor to Turbo Boost 2.0 that will identify not the single fastest core on the CPU but the two fastest cores on the CPU give you a little asterisk by them in the BIOS and that will automatically like to overclock those CTS more also they're going to have a hardware based solution for this now so you don't have to actually install some software to get turbo boost working so that's pretty nice also the turbo boost max 3.0 only seems to apply it skylake X diffuse which would make sense since with a fork or it's not quite as big of a deal to find the fastest cores on the teeth you and we also got some details of the X 299 chipset it will include thirty high-speed I Alain's those of the lanes allow you to connect stuff through the chipset like SATA ports and other things like that including up to 24 of those that are PCI Express gen3 via the DMI 3.0 interface upgrade to the mi 2.0 and then among these are going to have connectivity for three Intel rst rapid storage technology devices so PCIe again Gen 3.0 by full connectivity so that's for connecting up high-speed nvme SSD so you can potentially have m dot 2 and u dot 2 nvme SSDs in raid that are controlled by the hardware controllers as part of the chipset that's something that you currently cannot do on X 99 as I have sort of demonstrated in my videos that I post in the past couple weeks actually also in there you have some support for an Intel I to 190 and Ethernet that's going to be up to the motherboard manufacturer whether or not they actually want to integrate that with the motherboard and I've also noted a few times in this presentation the rebalance Intel smart cache hierarchy you might notice some of the l3 cache numbers here being a little different from like the x2 99 or the X 99 counterparts l3 cache sizes that are listed on the chart do seem to scale up but there's no additional information about them so we'll have to come back to you on that it's pretty much all the raw details that Intel's provide us for right now let's move on to my thoughts on this it's definitely some good news let's start with the good news there is some price drops that are sprinkled in amongst all of these cpu listings even though you might look at a $2,000 top-end processor and say they are raising the price but they're actually kind of lowering the price for what you would pay for example for an eight-core Intel processor the 8 core 7 8 20 X is 599 dollars the 6900 K that you would have had to buy just last week cop mm that's a foreigner dollar price drop for an 8 core Intel CPU the 10 core 7900 X is 999 dollars 6 950 X was 1700 so that is again a price job depending on how you look at it of course also I'd like to thank himself for leaving DK off of the end of any of these SKUs they're all just an X that simplifies things X works just fine for us we don't need 2 K in there the CPU names are already confusing as it is I do have some questions about this launch and hopefully we'll be able to answer these soon especially once we get parts in testing but I have questions about the viability of the KB Lake XC if you use the four core four thread and fork or eight thread options at the bottom of this stack they do seem to be at odds price to performance wise with intel's current mainstream platform and what you can get on x 270 also the fact that they have sixteen PCIe lanes again means you're gonna have some really weird configurations with x to 99 motherboards and I'm expecting XQ 99 motherboards to be more expensive than what you would pay for is a 270 so whether you have 16 28 or 44 PCIe lanes might be a fairly heavy amount of reconfiguration of a motherboard PCI Express slots that may or may not work depending on the CPU have installed as well as you that - and m dot - flops so that might lead to some confusion I think impels plan for this is just to be able to say it's an upgrade pack you can get in with a 4 core processor and then upgrade to an 18 core or 16 core processor down the line that's certainly a possibility that would kind of reflect back I'm like the the the spots of the i7 922 experienced in spec and X 58 days Intel also said that there has been lost of throat 20% plus in the and desktop space and their case scheme CPUs from 2015 to 2016 and that's why they have decided to go the route they've gone with this launch but surely this also has to be at least a bit of a reaction to AMD's recently announced announced rise in thread Ripper CPU which is a 16 core 32 thread CPU and it will be on a new high-end desktop platform from AMD that will be in direct competition with this high-end desktop platform from Intel case in point when they originally gave us this presentation I took a bunch of screencaps none of those 14 core 16 core or 18 core CPUs were even listed they verbally told us that they existed and then I sent us an updated deck with the additional information so it seems like it was a bit of a like oh crap we need to add these in here and it does seem to line up with the way that they want to market the CPUs especially considering that these are very high-end and very expensive CPUs so my humble opinion Intel is playing a marketing game that's kind of similar to the marketing game that Nvidia has been playing with Radeon for quite some time that is that they're pushing their brand is the high-end option possibly with a higher price than the competition but also with better Val Quality Assurance and integration with existing technologies in fact that Intel has been dominating the CPU space for quite a while this also though means that they need to be able to claim that they have the fastest CPU available in the consumer space and that is why they added those three more CPUs in the sack with 14 core 16 4 and 18 core options that they can state are obviously better than what thread Ripper would be with this paltry 16 cores and 32 threads it doesn't really matter that their highest end CPU cost $2000 all that matters is like Nvidia with the Titan is that they can say we have the fastest and that is a marketing win again depending on how you look at it and depending on the teams of marketing and that's okay actually in my opinion because look at what competition from AMD has done in this space from 2014 to 2016 Intel I'd be 59 60 X which they upgraded to the 69 50k in those two years we got two more cores at the top-end Intel SKU now in one year from 2016 to 2017 they've gone from 10 to 18 that's a pretty significant jump and I guess we have to say thanks AMD but also of course thank you to Intel because as expensive as these may be and I'm sure lots of people are going to argue in the comments about the positioning of both companies and everything it's more options and it's obviously some very powerful hardware that's coming out so I'm excited to check it out and I hope you guys are too if you enjoyed this video of course hit the thumbs up button I'll be back with more coverage from Computex what do you 17 here in Taipei Taiwan very soon and a biggest final thanks to my sponsors to Sorel g.skill EVGA MSI as well as schoolmaster thanks for watching guys we'll see attached