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Can You Expand a Closed Loop CPU Cooler? - Probing Paul #7

2016-08-25
excellent what's up guys welcome back to Pauls hardware this is probing Paul my monthly Q&A series that I usually do towards the end of every month this is episode number 7 and this is for August of 2016 it is getting late in the summer and I've been traveling this month but I cannot neglect probing Paul so let's start off with a look back through the sands of time look how tiny Cal's little picture is getting down there sorry so small anyway those are all the previous probing Paul's but let's get started with the first question this one comes from Prince and this was posted on last month's video so if you guys want to ask me questions for this month post them in this month's videos comments section question to ask can you turn a closed-loop water cooler into an open water cooler or a custom loop you might say I have a closed water cooler and I was wondering if it's possible to use a pump and water block for an open water cooler kind of tight on money right now I'd like to use as much as I can for my closed system on a new open system the answer is yes you can in some situations but it can vary now I have a couple actual choices or things that I've done here in the past let's start off with what I think you probably have which is something like one of these right here this is a thermal take water 2.0 this is a basic ace tech OMS closed-loop cooler comes with the pump block combo here and these sort of standardized types of closed-loop cooling connectors these are fixed and they're not really meant to be removed yes they can be removed yes they can be reused I've seen it done but it's very difficult and you're going to be dealing with questions about the seals going on there and it's just not the best idea these are kind of close then they're meant to stay closed that's not to say that you don't have options for this though if you if you want to do it so here is the radiator it's still kind of dusty from a swift tech H to 20 H to 20 X whichever this one was this one has barbed fittings on the end and this one is made to be expandable what happened here was the pump failed causing me no small amount of heartache and then I basically removed the tubing via the tool plant fittings there in the end and I was able to have this radiator which I now use to like say look at 240 millimeter radiator fit so that kind of thing or it's a copper radiator which is still very nice and just the pump networking doesn't mean the radiator has anything wrong with it also you notice as a fill port on there and that is kind of important for topping things off continuing along though I have some suggestions for you if you really want to buy something new I'm assuming you already have one but fractal for instance has expandable loops so this is their Kelvin coolers difficult to get in the US but elsewhere it's a little bit more easy to find these have G 1/4 fittings on the end so that basically makes it a lot easier to replace these adapters if you need to another one that has standardized G 1/4 fittings is the Alpha cool iceberg it's used to be made and sold through Coolermaster but now I think it's just an ethical product again you can remove the fittings and replace them if you want to or they're just a little bit easier to swap out because they're that G 1/4 standard EK also makes the xlc predator this one's cool because it actually has a quick disconnect in the middle so you can use that quick disconnect to like disconnect easily and then loop in another part part to the system assuming you get other quick disconnects that are compatible and that is a great option as well I actually just built this system behind me this testbed and I used a fractal cooler and I was able to I didn't expand it but I had to remove the fittings from it and sort of to feed them through and definitely having replaceable removable fittings was very helpful for that anyway thank you for the question next question though from Sean Roode's will you make an all AMD PC sometime this is a good question a timely question considering that I just also posted a video with a first look at AMD Zen this was actually from last week at faith that's supposed to be muted it's from last week they had some new announcements about Zen they had some architecture details actually coming pretty strong with us they also had a side-by-side comparison of a Zen vs. 269 hundred K which should be taken with a grain of salt but it looked promising all that is to say that yes I'm very excited about making an all AMD system especially now that we got the new Radeon rx cards rx 40 I think is a very good card I won't build one now though because a m4 isn't much that's really what I'm waiting for socket am 4 is going to be the new socket for both AMD APU s as well as AMD CPUs APU s have integrated graphics CPUs do nots and the Bristol Ridge chip that we're that they're talking about here should be an eight-core 16 thread socket aim for CPU without an integrated GPU as far as we know and it should be really cool option so something like that combined with like a new Vega GPU that we're also hopefully going to see by the end of this year would be a really exciting build to do all that said I don't see myself doing one any time soon until I can get my hands on an m4 motherboard for more on that let's go to the next question look at I tied these two together somehow Jose Vasquez says wait so current AMD CPUs and ApS will work with the new am 4 motherboards a very good question and I think there's going to be some confusion here but I will explain the to the best of my knowledge what I know so far all right so currents AMD CPUs and ap use current generation that slot into socket am3 motherboards am3+ motherboards or FM 2 plus motherboards two different types of sockets I'll use the same CPU microarchitecture it's all based on the original bulldozer chip bulldozer microarchitecture that they started I think in 2010 or 2011 when the 8150 launched everything since then has been different iterations refinements to that same CPU microarchitectures it's still 32 nanometer I believe but even the most recent chips are based on excavator those are just refinements of what's going on so what we're gonna see when am4 launches is an initial offering of motherboards or so we're told so we're expecting that our am 4 and that will slot in current generation AP use not on the not with the same socket though so you will need a new apu you're not going to be able to buy an AP right now that's FM 2 plus and then slot end into an amp and AM for motherboard so when I am for launches what you will have is current CPU microarchitecture based ap use at least that's what we're expecting based on probably excavator cores with some you know maybe a polaris GPU in there something like that that would be cool but those will not be using Xen and then maybe at the same time or maybe later on down the road we will see Xen CPUs maybe even ap use was then in them as well new microarchitecture new am4 socket but you'll still have apparently other a m4 based previous generation microarchitecture apu is also available i hope that makes some sense but what i think going back to the previous question i will plan on doing is when a m4 launches with an APU current gen I'll do a new update on maybe it may be a budget build on that or something a little but we're more reasonably priced with like an FX our X 480 and then further down the line when Zen actually launches hopefully by the end of this year we have Zen like hopefully really good performing CPUs something like that with a Vega GPU I'll totally do and as long as everything you know launches as we're expecting then then yeah you should be seeing that for me as well all right let's try to rip through some more of these questions mini house asks in the future ultra wide benchmark videos can you upload them in 21 by 9 aspect ratio yes maybe I've had different thoughts on that I think what I might do is 4k with the 21 by 9 sort of embedded in 4k I might upload native a 21 by 9 but it really cuts down in the number of people who are who could watch those videos I know people who already have a 21 by 9 monitor it's really cool watch that format but I'm what I'm trying to do is get people into that format so if you have a 16 by 9 and you have to watch a 21 by night it's just you can't see quite as much so yes I will take that into account and perhaps just how I do things in the future what I really need to do is start doing everything in 4k anyway frequency asks would you use liquid metal as thermal paste for GPU and/or CPU yes totally would liquid metal thermal paste is often touted as some of the best options that are out there often works a little bit better than synthetic stuff you do have to worry about conductivity so using too much and splurging over the sides is a little bit more of a concern in that aspect I also thought I don't usually I'm not usually nit picky about thermal paste simply because usually from the best thermal paste you can get to like the corner sort of mediocre crappy stuff is a difference of two three maybe four or five degrees Celsius which isn't a huge difference and I don't often go like the min/max route of trying to get the best of the best of the best possibility of everything and go for maximum overclocks so for that reason i'm is picky about the thermal pace but that's no reason not to use it just remember it's conducted more on soldier asks hey Paul what's that keyboard you've got there I mean the one you're using in the video and the one in the background I have a few here so this is Corsair k95 old-school red switches this is actually the keyboard that I used in my how to clean a keyboard video which is one of the more popular videos I've done and it still works although I'm moving around all my questions right now there's only like one key that's still a little sticky 0ne that's just one of them though there's also that this one this is the master keys Pro L from Coolermaster RGB and all that good stuff that's a nice one and then my floater keyboard is this one right here which is starting to get a little bit dusty and dirty which is a quick-fire rapid I also from Coolermaster and I just like it small so if I set up a system I can just plug it in or sometimes I use this down below me on the floor to control the teleprompter with my toe but I'm not doing that today all right yo ton ninja asks hey Paul for the next episode can you answer this what is a good introductory camera and setup to get I would like to make tech videos like mine or Linus's or Jays or any of the large tech tubers alright so if you're just starting out it's difficult for me to say you should invest you know a thousand dollars in a camera or something like that which is was originally what I was going to say get a gh4 gh4 is really nice but actually what I would suggest is to start out with something like cell phone because cell phone cameras as long as it can do like 1080 video anything that's coming out in the past two three years can be pretty decent granted some of them have much better optics than others but it's a quick way to get yourself off the ground they have good storage some can even do 4k and you know you can just point it at stuff and start making your videos before you take the next step of investing in a camera that said if you are thinking about investing in a camera I will tell you some of the actual features that I look for and of course I'm using my GH 4 to show you alright so one thing I really think you should consider if you are doing YouTube videos and especially if you're filming yourself is a flip-out screen that way when you're filming yourself you can see what you're filming and you're not have to like go back behind it or use a wireless thing or something like that having a audio input is going to be very important if more you do video the more you realize audio is often overlooked and having a good audio solution can really improve your quality you can record separately but being able to just plug it in and record straight the camera is very important I also really like having an HDMI out a clean HDMI out that you can use live that's what I'm using right now to capture all this right now with my other gh4 and those are just things I would keep my eye out for next from Justin Murray what's the wrist rest you're using and have a tried or ergonomic mice and I can do a head-to-toe ergonomic setup video or something like that I haven't really considered the full organ Amma kid EO or anything but this you're wondering is what is this it's handstands handstands yeah I got this on Amazon based on reviews I really like it so far made in China but it's got microbeads in there and I got it because people are like oh you can like make a little hole and remove some of the microbeads if it's like you know if it's got too much support but mainly I like having my wrist straight when I'm using the mouse you know eg I gotta try to keep this plane straight and as long as I do that I typically don't get too much fatigue or anything also you know generally good practices like keeping the back straight and the feet flat on the floor and all that good stuff is important as well yeah I like this wrist rest and I'll post the Amazon link to it down in the description if you guys want to check it out a couple more questions den Van nuyen says between a 69 hundred K and 59 60 X which will you choose they're both a core that both have similar performance they are both similarly priced if I am not mistaken here's the 69 hundred K thousand well 1100 bucks right now on new egg here's the 59 60 X well 1016 so it's about eighty to eighty-five dollars cheaper I would still say just go with the 69 hundred K because you're already spending a thousand dollars relatively speaking eighty bucks more it's really not that big of a difference Broadwell e is going to be fast around in instructions per clock level granted you potentially might have better overclocking with 59 60 X but that really is going to vary on a chip by chip basis and honestly if I was just buying one of these straight up right now I just I just sack up and go for the 16 100 K because it's you know let's it's a little bit better a little bit better and why would you but why would you spend a thousand dollars on a processor and not get the best processor you could because you don't want to spend $1700 on a 69 50 X that would probably be a good answer to that question jacks Macintosh says the thumb screw logo on your shirt is there any meaning behind it or is just a thumb screw I don't I'm not wearing the shirt right now but I have it on my fancy mug right here my thumb screw logo I really like I wanted something that was simple and hopefully slightly iconic and that represented PC building to some degree without being like a graphics card or something I guess if there's a back story would go back to my one of my earlier power supplies and one of my Furley er custom built systems was a PC power and cooling and I forget well I don't think I had to have the power supply replaced I forget why but I had to get in touch with PC power and cooling and they're just really nice and really good service they've been bought and sold since then but I still like PC power and cooling but they sent me a little a little envelope with like four thumb screws and as the first thumb screws I'd had with a PC edge just like this is so much better they were like brass you know I think I might stall them around somewhere anyway that's that's as much of a back story as I can come up with for my thumb screw logo maybe 2.1 gigahertz oh oh God see see what happens you've upset the dogs I was I only I only sketched out for half a second that Hiro was gonna knock my camera over finally this is my p.o box if you guys want to send me stuff for three to five Diamond Bar California and I I promise I'll check it soon and then we usually do mail time on the live show so I that's when we actually open those things anyway guys thank you for watching this video I hope you've enjoyed it hit the thumbs up button leave me more questions in the comment section down below if you want me to answer your questions next month also check out my store you can buy shirts mugs pint glasses all that good stuff links are in the description and as always thank you for watching
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