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DXR on 10-Series, 10-Core Comet Lake, 12 Years of MySpace Erased - Awesome Hardware #0181-B

2019-03-19
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conference but Nvidia hosts it so they have at this event announced many things and the thing that I think is most interesting to you folks is the fact that they are bringing DXR ray-tracing support to the GeForce 10 and 16 Series in April it's next month nice keep playing with the knife there cap sorry that's fine I'm nice it's a nice knife this is a good knife Spyderco yeah the end of it is duller if you want to if you want to do anything sharpness rated part the serrated pright here still like oh my god oh very very dangerous I love a couple more drinks and tested oh good good good call anyway though so this was somewhat expected I mean some people might not have expected it but it depends how closely you watch the development of of DirectX and ray-tracing support in RTX and everything that's going into that because Microsoft has been developing the DirectX ray-tracing API with two tiers of hardware in mind for quite some time now so you've got hardware accelerated which would include in videos RTX series graphics cards intercourse stay specifically named the March X with an R at the beginning not because they're like pirates but because R is for RTX and ray-tracing and the hardware acceleration parts of those GPUs that helps them do that he R stands for RDX our stance right yes exactly exactly how but even if you don't have that Hardware part of it the hardware acceleration built in like the r-tx cards have you can now still do ray-tracing or at least you will be able to do that once the driver is released it supports it the this is talking about the two families a drink here it is done here tens of millions of dxr GP is here the ones that will not be supported basically on top of the RT x cards that already had it which will support complex RT affects multiple RT effects and hi ray counts you now can also turn on RT x effects with basic RT effects and lo ray count with Pascal GPUs go it all the way down to the GTX 1066 gig so basically GTX 1066 Keoghan above also included are the newer touring 16 series cards that have just launched in the past month or so the 1660 and 1660 TI titan v Voltas included therefore the three of you that might have that and so there you go you too can now turn on ray tracing in battlefield 5 and have your framerate crippled and be like wow look I can see things that are off-screen reflected in this reflection and then turn ray tracing back up so you can play at a reasonable frame rate Pascal frame rates have never been lower yeah Vidia ad that's really supports rate now you know the RT x stuff has been shat on a lot and I think that's because a the cards that have the hardware support for it are really expensive and B it hasn't really been demonstrated to people that the extra dollars that you pay for that support translate to like a better gaming experience or more immersive gaming experience you can demo RT x stuff but you know it's still only available in a very limited number of games so in my opinion ray tracing and the support for ray tracing is kind of going through like a teething period right now or like an adolescent pack word teenager period or like it kind of sucks yeah and and and you know there's there's no real way around that but the fact that the support for it is going to be there with this series of cards which has an ax massive install base because the ten series has been around for two and a half years now means that there's gonna be more people who can turn it on which means there's going to be more developers who think like alright adding a little bit of a little bit of the ray-tracing sauce in here might be worth doing so we'll see it gradually expand and eventually we'll see you know GPUs have better hardware support for it that aren't crippled by it by it when you here's again say about this brief brief Doug freakout thick now what I was gonna say is here has a really awesome bark like it oh yeah we call his big boy bark yeah I'm like Oh deep like that would freak you out but he only uses that one like it's an intruder or something like that when it's like me or my wife or something he's it's the old bait-and-switch yes there's no Jesus Christ there goes my leg so it was this thing ray tracing I think has a future ahead of it but as far as practical use right now it's very limited s lafiel I feel like they picked the worst game to like showcase it on at first which is battlefield 5 like it's a terrible game to feature that you're moving too fast you can't appreciate any of the nice little effects like implement it in a slow game where like the character movement is slow and you need psmith article and you take time to appreciate your environment like an artsy game like a modern-day version of mist or something like that yeah I missed I always think back of like you know maybe like heavy rain if you if you ever played ps3 that game on ps3 that would have been a good one for all the reflections in the water and stuff it's just very slow puzzle game maybe even something like a little bit more slow-moving like Resident Evil 2 like the remake and stuff not battlefield 5 people things are going too fast for you to even appreciate to smell the flowers to smell the roses or whatever portal 2 great example yeah yeah or yeah I like something that has a simpler design aesthetic so it doesn't crush the graphics card as much would also be an option mirror store simulator perfect so anyway just to sum up the rest of the things that were talked about Nvidia says that there are TX cards are two to three times faster than the GTX cards when you compare them I personally have zero interest in doing comparative testing for that because it's a limited application but we'll see how it goes that's of course gonna be workload dependent as well and dependent depending on the game and everything but you will probably see a little bit better performance with 16 series cards and r-tx effects than 10 series cards because 16 series cards do have volta or the the architecture that's based on volta for the core architecture which means it can do FP 32 and int 32 integer floating point instructions at the same time concurrent processing of those which is why it's also that the 16 Series is scoring much better and tests that are for Asus for asynchronous compute is let's try and talk about that yeah so yeah I guess that might be one advantage of the 16 series cards but we'll see if anyone's actually interested in that it is a driver driver level support that's going to be launched so games won't actually require an update for it you just need the driver and they can turn it on in the game but some games a lot of games probably will update because introducing support for these lower end cards probably would mean that the games want to say like hey here's a here's an entry level RTX thing to turn on or something like that so you can attempt it with those games but we'll see how that goes this will be enabled within videos next driver release which is expected next month so April okay next up also from the GTC or going along with GTC is a demo that's being shown GTC nvidia Gogan owl god which i just wanted to show you guys cuz i'm gonna oh my gosh it's it's kind of cool so AI deep-learning studied a bunch of pictures like a ton of pictures over a million images including 41,000 from Flickr to allow you to do something like this and there's a video here that actually would probably be better to show you so here you use the idea right you've got an interface here looks very like kind of like a simple paint interface on the left side you can draw stuff and you can tell the interface what you're drawing Sky Tree cloud mountain grass you can also do stuff like changing the color and stuff like that but it takes a very simple image which you're seeing here on the left and it uses AI to draw a much more complex image sort of filling it out to look like a very I won't say photorealistic but getting close to it at a glance yeah on there right that's pretty insane so I'll let that so like for instance right now they're like right it's green for grass or jungle whatever he just switched it to rock and now suddenly it's changed that whole part of it related to rock he's like I just selected water and drew water right there and really now there is a waterfall that has appeared right there so um it allows you to just draw sort of these basic structures and then the AI kind of goes in and fills in the rest acting as a smart paintbrush as it fills in details we have access to this on the sketch demo or on the sketch I don't know if you can just go and download this the demo itself of the player is showing at GTC is running in on our TX Titan so it's not necessarily light but like I just drew a mountain just it's like happy little trees but like as a mountain now there's a mountain what if you like you know drew a little red thing in the sky and you were like this is dragon but now put a dragon in I don't they have like you probably have to kind of stick to the landscape things that they have right there black rod is a penis it's mainly that's that's mainly what they're trying to do with it is possibilities yeah yeah the it's being touted as a tool to help urban planners game designers and architects quickly create synthetic images but you can imagine all of the nefarious uses of course it could be put to as well the future this was developed by researchers and NVIDIA and they created a generative adversarial Network model for producing realistic Lansky landscape images from a rough sketch or segmentation map so it's pretty sweet yeah I thought that was fun way better than Ansel I mean I just feel like if you if you're if you're doing anything creative you know like I just need a generic background but right you also needed to be somewhat specific like to go along with the story or something like that yeah if you could just draw this out and just sort of do that really quick right and then move on from that it'd be copyright free and it'd be cheaper than buying a image from I stock or something you know you want to use for a thumbnail or something like that that's true all right moving on this is from last week March 13th actually but Intel comet leaked have you heard much about comet Laker no not so much well yeah comet Lake is going to be the successor to coffee Lake and whiskey Lake Coffee architectures impressive processor as a coffee again drinkin drinkin beer okay anyway the information from this article which is from Tom's hardware is derived from the latest updates to intel's linux drm kernel driver and coreboot which is previously known as linux bios and this is basically pulling data from those to reveal a little bit more about comet Lake and comment like it would appear is is gonna launch during the middle of this year which to many of us means Computex usually like a launching in the middle of the year means Computex when it comes to pc components so two parts of this the description of the Linux update specifically says or claims that comet Lake comes off of coffee Lake which is sort of a weird phraseology I suppose but that's what it says the article says that that means it's safe to assume that comet Lake is a another refresh so 14 nanometer plus plus plus plus plus whatever sky lake - whatever but 10 nanometer the the 10 nanometer stuff that Intel has been promising will launch for like the past two or three years give or take is still expected at the end of this year no well that's what they said I mean it's gonna be delayed again I feel like it would be really really bad for them if they delayed it yet again I don't know given that they delayed it to the end of 2019 like I feel like it was early in 2018 when they said that I feel like they wouldn't push it that far unless they kind of were like alright let's go back and lay this out again so I don't know but anyway point being it seems like we can expect another launch from Intel of more 40 nanometers processors code-named comet Lake which if you go down to the the coreboot information core boot is an open source project which is previously known as Linux BIOS and it is meant to replace the BIOS and UEFI standards but it has a github page it is data has been posted there that says comet comet Lake you processors are primarily aimed which are primarily aimed at laptops we'll have up to six cores and that comet like H and comet like s processors which presumably are aimed at the desktop will have up to ten cores I would assume anything that Intel is doing that has 10 cores would also potentially have a hyper threaded version so that might mean that what we're gonna see at Computex this year which is only three months away actually April May June yeah little less than three months away would be a battle of two launches well actually AMD from the image from the rumors seems like might launch later but they might announce at at Computex but AMD coming with a m4 based CPUs that using those little rise in chip le'ts might have up to 16 cores and 32 threads on a single little processor Intel answering back with this comet Lake solution with up to 10 cores and presumably 20 threads on a single processor and sort of the the comparison between those might be interesting you could sort of see it both ways on the one hand you might look at Intel's offering and say like alright they've been on 40 nanometers for quite some time but I don't know like the 9900 K is very difficult to keep cool kind of need a 360 millimeter radiator so I would be curious what what they could offer when it comes to like a 10 core 20 thread part compared to an 8 core 16 thread part and what I'm gonna cut in terms of cooling and everything and then of course you could say the same thing about it about AMD said trying to wedge 12 or 16 cores on two separate chip --let's a pretty small package right there too so you know there's gonna be a lot of questions that need answering when it comes to the performance of these but we'll see this seems reasonable when it comes to rumors and you know various software is being updated with information about them but yeah that's that's all that's all I have for the story okay look again sure apex legends have you been playing the apex legends cow I played it briefly yesterday for a monitor review yep and I was bad I killed like two people but I did bad should be like Jo and practice so you can be good at it I wish I had time like I do I wish I wish the same thing but um apex Legends is finally launching their battle pass or season one this actually kicked off this morning 10:00 a.m. so you can buy it now if any of you guys play apex legends you probably know it's free-to-play so just to clarify you don't need to pay any money for this you don't need the battle pass you don't don't need to pay money you can still play the game and then why would you buy the battle fitness ball well a lot of people seem to be interested in this I guess all right so if you play apex ledges a lot and if you like the aesthetic stuff the skins then this might be interesting to you we're talking about a about a $10 investment because it costs nine hundred and fifty apex coins apex coins are one of those things that you buy in packs though so the amount of apex coins to $1 changes depending on how much you buy hmm it's a common it's a very common technique it's used by lots of arcades and everything like that it's not like it's bad but you should be aware of what's being done when you talk about taking your cash dollars your your your money that you know like a dollar is a dollar or ten bucks is 10 bucks and transferring it over to Apex coins so the conversion rate changes no it's like you can buy nine hundred I think it's ten dollars for it out for a thousand eight picks cleans okay but then if you buy thirty bucks worth add and I need to look up another say if you buy more than I said you might get less say if you might get less I mean you might get more okay you might get yeah sure so it's not a direct more you buy the more you save yes but what that's doing is it's disassociating your your understanding of what a dollar is worth to me this sort of abstract Apex coins sure so that as you're spending that on stuff you sort of you don't make a direct association of how much money you're spending yeah and I would just want to point out this is a very very common technique it's used by lots of arcades and everything to it ever got it Dave and dave and buster's oh yeah you just just like I'm not saying you shouldn't go to these places and invest in these things or get a battle past just know what you're spending the techniques that they are using to subtly prod you to spend more money or spend more time on the thing right and part of that is like oh I am not putting a quarter into a machine to play one game right it's I am spending $10 to get 250 tokens or credits on this thing and then I'm gonna go play again it's your fight across you know some absolute and then it's use like 23 credits or something that's why it's 958 tax coins not just a thousand or something anyway right sorry yeah so if you buy into the battle path the season one battle pass then for the next three months you can as you play the game you will level up up to 100 levels you can also just buy the levels if you want for a hundred and fifty apex coins each or about about fifty or two dollars depending again on how much you bought the apex claims for the levelling up only applies to the battle pass yes okay so you have a person level in the game and when your battle pass has a level they both level up and essentially the same way by playing the game right but this is how they sort of they sort of differentiate that so that your battle pass is on its own as you play with the battle pass there's a bunch of rewards you can get and this is similar tool the way a lot of free-to-play games work so you know here's all the different levels of rewards 950 of them be there's 100 oh yeah scrolls all the way down to 100 including a wild frontier badge havoc the silver storm skin some legendary skins that kind of thing so you might notice as you're looking through this that there's like 50 apex coins 58 ex coins 50 apex coins and so on as you go further down you get a hundred coins I think for a few of them so point being and I think they've they've designed this in a relatively intelligent way if you're gonna spend if you're gonna drop ten bucks and that's all which doesn't seem to unreasonably for free unreasonable for a free-to-play game wanting it a bunch of drop ten bucks don't spend anything else play and level up and do all that you will get enough apex coins by the next season pass right so that's kind of their offer for the kind of like the people who aren't just gonna be spending money on it right to play the game and everything fortunately all of the things that you get are all aesthetic so we're talking about that's good thing stuff that goes on your win page and more tonight skins for the player for the heroes yeah heroes yeah so nothing nothing that's gonna affect gameplay or anything like that so sure you can still play apex just fine and not spend any money at all and even if you don't buy the battle pass you still have some benefits from this which is that you can still earn a wild frontier legend skin 18 wild frontier stat trackers and 5 apex packs while frontier by the way is the name of this paddle pack or the the season anyway PC gamer closing description if you guys want to check it out and read a little bit more oh the only other thing is that there's a new legend itself his name is octane only barely saw some gameplay with him today he is sold separately from the battle pass he still costs 12,000 legend tokens or 750 apex coins so you can earn your way to unlocking him or you can just pay about 7 pity I don't know about that take I think they just released the character you should be free you know and when you start the game there's six characters with two that you can unlock it is free to people now there's one more you can unlock that's why keeps yeah I guess this is what they have to do to keep the momentum going right so that people don't get tired of the game and it just fizzles out to come with some account for some stuff to scrutiny I said I mean one of the things the reason I think I have brought up Apex legends a few times I mean it's become very popular of course that's a that's a part of it but they launched correctly I think I think I mean yeah I think they still deserve a good amount of credit for that yeah it wasn't overhyped they didn't do some stupid pre-beta they didn't have a bunch of tiered launches with launched quietly they just launched with game that you could play on launch that was fun to play so yeah all right living on my space but my space what does that mean again my space you know my space mmm it's been so long it's launched in 2003 was the number one social media website in 2008 forgot about my space of course was overtaken by Facebook after that and eventually sort of switched and transitions to be more of a music platform music platform content creation platform they were apparently doing a data migration recently oh and they just lost 12 years of content so see so yeah 2003 plus 12 plus 3 what years is 2018 or 2019 anything older than three years so they sent a message out to their users like hey guys we apologize for the inconvenience but any photos videos and audio files uploaded more than three years ago may no longer be available on or from MySpace so that kind of do you think they just said that they lost it and they really just let's clear all this shit I don't think they would do this do something like this unless they actually did that because myspace isn't necessarily you know oh well like it's still around but it's not necessarily flourishing or anything like that I don't think they would want to do something like this that would tarnish the brand even further than I already was there's already some data breach that happened like in 2016 or something like that so yeah it appeared to be they were going through some server data migration and just didn't have didn't ever backed up that's crazy now what oh yeah in my opinion you shouldn't be relying on a cloud service to back up all of your stuff especially if you're a creator and you're creating you know unique stuff it's unique but that really sucks for MySpace to the to have really lost that much like you should always have a backup yeah you know even if it's on a slow server somewhere that he hasn't been accessed in a while but there it is that's crazy uh bag that's oh another is a stat there's a stat where you go permanent loss of contents is what they're looking at this is an estimated 50 million tracks by 14 million artists that's a lot a lot of data it's gone away now for MySpace sorry any myspace users but you probably regretting using myspace to this point that's why I stopped using my space right one last news story here this is a hardware launch or an announcement yes an announcement an to launch because it's available for sale Noctua night maker of really really nice fans although they're not always the best color scheme has finally launched this product that they have been sort of teasing for a while shown it a few copy Texas and whatnot this is the NH u 12a okay look at it right there pretty it is pretty pretty ugly now what this is doing is combining first off two flagship NF a 12 X 25 PWM fans you can see both on the front and the back there and push pull oh god this thing's like a hundred dollars isn't it yes it's a hundred dollars is it really it's a hundred and twenty millimeter all air cooler so you're talking about essentially the the footprints of like a hyper 212 it might even be a little bit shorter than that I forget you discuss seven out of Mike's yeah it's got 77 heat papers a video here sexy video I mean but why that color why not they have nice-looking fans now why put those on it they have to make it in their default first and then they wait like a year two three years and then they launch a chrome acts version of it why would they do that what I would love to see is a crow max version of this with the black with the all-black thing that they were talking about doing yes they here look this is HD 15 which is one of their hundred and forty millimeter class all them on air coolers I keep wanting to say all-in-one and like I feel like they're slightly cagey with the description but the way they're describing this hundred and twenty millimeter version is that it's on par with the cooling performance of one hundred and forty millimeter versions so that's that's pretty impressive I don't know if it's necessarily gonna beat n n HD 15 that seems but even if it can be kind of in the same ballpark that's pretty cool so you're talking about a footprint that isn't gonna conflict with Ram look here's use your measurement 158 millimeter height comes with both fans comes with both fans so this is the U 14s their previous hundred and forty millimeter version which is even taller do so yeah they're you know install your memory next to it no problem that yeah it's hundred and twenty-five millimeters wide as well because it just uses you know you're sorry twenty millimeter fan so yeah all of this for the low low retail price of $99.90 Wow I was right us it's $100 100 freaking G's dollars uh so excited until the hundred dollar price tag why make it black feel like if it was no one's gonna buy this no one's gonna buy it people are gonna buy not enough people will buy it it's so many more people would not care they make a bunch of stuff for like industrial use in whatever I feel like there may be crazy parts are like a hobby that they do as a lark or something like that that's why they so constantly taunt us with like high performance stuff in there yeah baby really make you different colors alright these seven heat pipes such expensive expensive but yeah I'd love to see like how about this same price crow max black NF 814 F a 12 X 25 P double fans and then the blacked-out fin stack and everything like they had some some demos of at Computex last year that's that seems a lot more reasonable to me that for $100 if it could like legitimately keep up with all the quid coolers that cost $100 right then why not then then I think that would be that would be a better deal because you'd have zero risk of failure or like water leakage you know it's more reliable than an AI oh if it's gonna perform on par with one then you take my money Oh gladly give you a hundred bucks but you know if you actually care about the aesthetic of your system and you want it to be somewhat match a little bit then that's a deal-breaker for a lot of people true anyway RGB is any indication of how much system builders these days value aesthetics I mean there was no stopping RGB so clearly people care about how their systems internally look but looking forward to testing that I am misting I am sure we will see alternate versions at some point I just want to see how long it takes for that to happen yeah but guys that is that's all I got for my show that's quick that's relatively quick as efficient well we were both edition today I mean I'm trying to keep it in the 30 to 40 minute range and I think that's great all right party we're supposed to be a thing here that says how much time has gone by it's okay we're just going anyway guys we're gonna do the after party now where things get super loose so join us there it's gonna be fun links in the video's description thank you for clicking on that thank you for watching guys yes appreciate it if you wanna hit the thumbs up button we appreciate that too and to your everyday tech assuming you keep doing timestamps because you've been really good about that thank you so much for that you're the man 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