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Day One With the $2000 18-Core i9 9980XE

2018-11-13
intel drops this processor into my mailbox two days ago and yesterday I did not have time to do anything with it so today is the one day that I have to give you guys some form of preliminary look at the performance specifications and otherwise what to think about this new processor that intel is launching today which is the 99 80 X e99 80 Extreme Edition 18 cores 36 threads and this is basically the successor the replacement to the 79 80 XE Intel's previous generation $2000 18 core 36 thread processor what's the difference with this one I'm not sure yet I am literally finding out this information as I read it so I'm gonna be sort of going along with that with you guys and learning as I go so I'll be sharing that with you and of course we have a quick unboxing to do right now but more to the point if you decided already for some reason that you want to spend $2,000 on this processor what do you need to go along with it besides the processor itself of course you will need a cooling solution these CPUs do not ship with that so you're probably gonna want to look into high-end air cooling or potentially water cooling and then you're going to need an X $2.99 motherboard fortunately Intel has maintained backwards compatibility with X to 99 boards with these new processors so all you should need is an existing X 299 motherboard like the rampage 6 extreme here there is a new series of X 299 motherboards that are coming out from a variety of motherboard manufacturers you about Asus and so on Asus is already sending me the X 299 deluxe - although it didn't arrive in time for this video but I do have the rampage 6 extreme setup in the extreme edition test bed that I did my test betting competitions with gamers Nexus and JC since a month and a half or two months ago so my plan today is to slot this into that test bed fire it up and see what it's got going on the 99 80 XE the master liquid ml 360 our RGB is a new all-in-one by Cooler Master that sports a 360 mm meter radiator addressable RGB fans and a low-profile dual chamber pump the nicely sleeved FTP tubing has a premium feel and you can use the included RGB control unit to customize the addressable LEDs on the fans and pump or plug directly into your motherboard for more on the master liquid ml 360 our RGB click the sponsor link in the video's description before I get this installed for testing though I do want to run down some of these and information that intel has sent over again this is all really early because I haven't had time to process this very much but this is the actual letter that Intel is sending out to its various press partners who they have sent samples to and here I wanted to point out because people ask me this a lot when I'm provided a sample by somebody like Intel they've actually put this block of text in here specifically saying by providing the sample until a no way requests or expects you to say or do anything on behalf of Intel now I'm only pointing this out because I get samples sent to be pretty often which I'm very thankful for but I also get accused pretty often it's like oh they sent you this sample to $2,000 processor this obviously must bias you in one way or another I do my very best not to be biased and to give you guys unbiased and neutral objective reviews products like this and hey if we want to compare this to what am decent recently I mean this is AMD's impressive packaging for the threader per sample that they sent over and I mean come on how is that look I got a brown honestly the packaging that these arrive in matters not at all so let's get rid of this and let's talk about some actual features of the processors so this is directly from Intel please bear in mind but it's got Intel turbo boost technology 2.0 I also got turbo boost max technology 3.0 and that will allow you to take a single core or dual core performance up to four point five gigahertz on a single or two threads at a time on these processors now very mom when Intel actually made this announcement back at the beginning of October and they also announced the 9900 X at the same time they actually had a full lineup of 9000 series high-end desktop processors the 9800 X 98 20x and so forth the 4.5 gigahertz applies to all the CPUs except for the 98 20x which actually has a turbo boost max of 4.2 gigahertz just wanted to point that out but I will post a link to the Intel newsroom brief on this if you guys want to check it out and look at the full details but we can see that the TDP is still listed 165 watts for all processors in this family and then we have the 99 ad XC at the top with 18 cores and thirty-six threads then we got a 16 core 14 core 12 core 10 core 10 core and 8 core version of those available in this whole lineup right here there's 4544 PCI Express Lanes available on the 99 80 X II and then there are 24 more available via the PCH or the peripheral controller hub and why they're saying effectively up to 68 platform PCIe lanes but bear in mind if you're talking about direct connectivity for high speed stuff like MDOT two drives or graphics cards forty four lanes is what you're working with their last thing to mention is price pricing for a thousand of these is at one thousand nine hundred and seventy nine dollars that's bulk pricing so you're probably gonna be paying two thousand bucks for this at retail just like you maybe would have paid for the 79 80 XE if you have money falling out of your button okay guys just some initial setup going on here I had to double check my existing test bed first off to make sure everything's still functional and it appears to be also had to double check and make sure that we have an updated BIOS for the motherboard to be compatible with the new processor and I was actually a little worried because I hadn't received any updates but Asus let me know that version 1503 which actually came out two months ago over two months ago was the update to support these processors so they have been around for a while and the motherboard itself is okay and ready to go when it comes to slotting in the new CPU now here's the 3d mark time spike stream Hall of Fame the two way scores that we were attempting to have a bit of an OC challenge last months with their barish still on top with his max score here Jay and Steve scores are still holding up quite well - they're still in third and fifth I meanwhile have been supplanted by lots of people with scores in the 14 thousands and I'm down here at position number 18 VPS customs Brian also surpassed me with his additional overclocking attempt with air conditioning but I am going to try to keep things a little bit more simpler here today and just to give us a point of comparison my max score with to a 28 ET is in sli was thirteen thousand eight hundred and sixty one and more specifically the cpu score was 11 thousand 97 so my simple goal for today is going to be to slot in the CPU runtimes by extreme and see at stock how close the 99 80 XE can get to the 79 80 XE my 79 80 XE of course being deleted it does not have liquid metal but it does have upgraded thermal paste and then of course we're going to be using the same cooling solution with the ek x2 99 monoblock that they have for the rampage 6 extreme let's see what the results are we have initial success with our initial first boot with the updated configuration here so as you guys probably just saw it was a little bit of a challenge to swap in the new CPU since I am using a monoblock it had to remove the entire motherboard to get back behind it because there's a backplate that well not a backplate but that it screws in from the back fortunately with Joe's help so that wasn't too terribly difficult and then of course we got the second Asus GeForce r-tx 2080 ti the ROG Strix Edition of that which I have been excited actually arrived about a week or so ago to just install and see what two of these together can do because I do potentially have some chances to do some overclocking with those in the future I'm probably not gonna get to that today but for now I've reset everything to BIOS defaults so I'm going to restart this in normal mode just default out of the box settings and we'll do some initial tests to see how it's performing this will give me just a minute I need to restart and update the drivers actually one thing I am going to change in here just letting you guys know how things are being set up and this is by asus is request because this is again a pretty early BIOS for this new processor they said they were pretty conservative with the settings until they did get some new CPUs in and do some direct testing themselves so the recommendation is if I use XMP which I do want to turn on because we'd have some pretty nice memory here we are going to also use MCE or multi core enhancement this is something that is optional it will run the CPU a bit out of spec so it is gonna run the CPU a little bit harder than you normally would but I just want to be fully clear with everyone that I am leaving that on and then the recommendation I got from Asus for this setting is if I'm gonna use XMP and MCE to enable s fit support as well so those are the three changes that I'm making and we'll go okay Oh also since I am using XMP ddr4 speed is set to 38 68 because this is a very nice ddr4 32 gig kits from g.skill that they sent over for that overclocking battle and it's still installed so I'm not gonna remove it I guess just to show you what we're working with here I have updated the Nvidia drivers we're in version 4 16.8 1 and we have both of our our TX 20 ATT is currently functioning in SLI mode right there maximized 3d performance I'm going to leave everything else at defaults I've downloaded some monitoring software this is the updated versions but I'm getting some weird readouts here like for instance CPU Z thinks I have a 79 80 X II on the processor name but spec here is listing properly as a 99 8 Exe hardware info for some reason that thinks I've got a xeon 3000 this is the latest beta version 5.8 9-30 520i 264 just updated though and if we look at itis 64 cpuid we can see the 99 80 XE listed right there as well as the rest of the specs for the hardware I have installed we can also see here that the XMP setting has taken effects with our dear M frequency it's effectively about 38 69 by my math with casa latency 18 19 1939 so our first test here is just going to be the I 264 system stability test which I have just kicked off my plan is to let this run for about 10 minutes or so and this is going to give us a few readings one it's gonna give us a temperature reading for the CPU under a full constant load over a period of time we'll also be able to look here at the frequencies to see what kind of max frequency we're getting across multiple cores and then of course whatever that temperature creeps up to right now it's not too bad at all per quart we're only hitting in the mid 40s or high forties here so again we do have a custom liquid-cooled set up with a mono block so we should be getting good cooling with this CPU but let's give it a few minutes and see if things warm up well this isn't a good sign we have a hardware failure detected test stopped notification here it didn't seem to throttle at all I'm not seeing any reports of throttling or overheating when it comes to our hardware info 64 results here it looks like the hottest we got to was 57 degrees Celsius on the CPU packet package the hottest any individual core got was fifty-two degrees Celsius so it's hard to say exactly what caused this I'm gonna hit clear here and see if I can restart give it another shot all right well here once again we have another hardware failure detected by i-264 I am a little bit baffled as to why this is happening because I'm not doing anything special with the CPU in fact if we look at hardware info over here we can see that we've only hit just over 4.5 gigahertz as we would expect the fastest we've seen as far as a frequency on a single core is about 4.5 eight gigahertz here on core number nine and when it was running with all cores engaged it was only running at about 2.5 to 2.8 gigahertz which is pretty low that's what it's supposed to do when it's running across all 18 cores and 36 threads under a stress test environment like I just put it under but I'm sort of at a loss as to what else might be going wrong here with this last test I unchecked the memory stress test and I was hoping to indicate there that like maybe it's just that memory XMP overclocked value that I put in there this is a pretty high speed memory and you're not guaranteed that you're gonna be able to run your memory at that speed with any given processor beyond that though I'm nowhere near close to thermal throttle limits 54 degrees Celsius was the hottest any single core gots the CPU package temperature got up to 59 even looking here at my CPU package power 171 watts is the maximum draw that's only six watts more than the rated TDP of this CPU which is a hundred and sixty-five watts so I don't think I'm running out of spec what what to do next though I think I'm gonna stop trying to run really fast memory okay so I reset I have installed a G scale flare x-kid of memory now which is universally compatible it's actually made for Rison but it has Samsung B die actually ICS on there so it's a very compatible kit also running 3200 speed castle I can see 14 which is a nice I think balanced speeds it's a faster kit but it's not crazy fast like that 3,800 speed kit that I had originally tried to install now just to be clear I'm not at all trying to say that like this kit or this faster memory kit isn't gonna work with the CPU there's a ton of other stuff I could probably go in there to go in tweak settings and try to get it to work because 38 66 is an overclock speed when it comes to the memory that's compatible with this platform but I'm more focused on getting the CPU up and running so I can run at least a few tests for you guys and again I'm really short on time so the i-264 test has now been running for just over seven minutes and here we can see CPU speeds frequency 2.8 gigahertz is what it's going to run out at across all cores and then you might have one or two cores pop up to three point three gigahertz again this is all default out-of-the-box speeds that you get only only thing we've done is plugged in the XMP value for the memory and then we can see maximum we're hitting 4.5 gigahertz which is what we're told is the maximum turbo boost speed so that lines up as well when it comes to temperatures / core temperature the hottest we saw is 53 degrees Celsius on a single core so that's not bad at all again we're running with a custom liquid cooler and everything so we would expect pretty good temperatures here package power it didn't even hit the hundred and 65 watt max here but CPU package temp max set at 58 degrees Celsius so perfectly adequate temperatures I imagine those would ramp up pretty quickly if we delve into some overclocking with this because that's what happens with these 79 80 XE but we're probably not going to get quite that far today one other thing I wanted to point out is that my previous version of hardware info 64 actually didn't update for some reason so we've got the updated newest beta version and now we have properly listed the I 999 ATX II there so let's jump over to some more tests I'm just I'm gonna run this in a bitch I just wanna runs in a bitch alright guys we have some results for Cinebench at least we're using the multi-threaded test with all 18 cores and 36 threads active score was 37 56 if you want to compare that to the 79 80 XE that stock $33.99 so about 3400 score jumped about 350 points not too bad there when it comes to single core performance 279 ATX e will do about 192 points in Cinebench single core mode we jumped up five points 297 so not a bad increase there as well of course that still is a pretty decent step behind the 9900 K which has the fastest single core performance right now and that one will score about 220 points in this test next test of course is times by extreme 3d mark direct x12 test this test is just finishing up again just running this once due to lack of time and there's our results of twelve thousand and ninety this is of course significantly below the score is the I was doing when I was doing the overclock testing because we are not too overclocked but we can at least still get a representation of the CPU score here which was eight thousand six hundred and sixty eight and that is pretty far behind the overclocked 79 80 XE scores I was getting cuz I was running a 79 80 XE at just about 5 gigahertz across all course in the final bit of testing that I did they so here are the results from that max test that I ran before since it was on this same system went to 79 80 XE score of 13 8 61 and here my cpu score was it's kind of small here but 11,000 97 so that's what I was getting overclocked the same number of cores and threads in the same architecture in the same manufacturing process just running at a much higher frequency and as you or may be able to see as I was running through the previous tests when you're talking about running across all cores at default with the CPU you're gonna be running about 2.8 acres which is not that fast when it comes to overall frequency but it does keep the temperatures down so of course ramping that up with some overclocking is gonna increase the temperatures we are seeing single core speeds though of maximum of 4 point 5 gigahertz I thought it was interesting that as we were running Cinebench that was actually bouncing around a little bit more than I would have expected I would have expected to see one core always pegged at 4.5 gigahertz but we were seeing four point two and then four point three and then four point four so turbo tables or something that Intel has been played very close to their chest they're not very open about what causes the CPU to ramp up to certain frequency at a specific time so one last test that I ran here guys and that is x by non Extreme Edition because I'm pretty much out of time but I did run time spy so that's associated somehow but point being I have 220 ATT eyes and SLI going on right now so the graphics core is pretty impressive it's 1t 4555 I can't compare that to my initial test with the 79 ATX a though because I was only running one 1080 Ti but the CPU score is a valid comparison we got eleven thousand eight hundred and eighty six compare that to the physics score in this same test with the 79 80 XE which was eleven thousand and seventy and we can see we have about an 800 point jump which is a nice indication of the benefits you get from the 99 eight exe running at a higher frequency out of the box than the 79 80 XE now my big question about this is going to be realistically speaking how much of an upgrade is the from the 79ad EXCI it's the same price it looks like because we're also working with the same microarchitecture the same process technology 14 nanometer at the same frequencies I would expect these two CPUs to run at exactly the same speeds and get the pretty much the exact same test results it is a question to be asked how much further the 99 80 XC might be able to overclock compared to the 79 80 XC unfortunately I haven't had time to delve into that today but perhaps something to look at in the future so guys if you have any ideas for stuff that I should do further testing with with this testbed and the ridiculous amount of hardware that's installed please leave those suggestions down in the comment section down below and I'll read them and perhaps I will do that in the future also there are probably other people who have 99 80 exes who are releasing reviews on them right now so I'm gonna check those out get some people with some more thorough benchmarking material on pulse links to those in the description too so check those out 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