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GTX 1060 3GB or RX 480 4GB for $200? - Probing Paul #13

2017-03-17
what's up guys welcome to probing Paul episode number 13 and this is my baker's dozen episode this is my Q&A segments I do it every month and I answer the questions that you guys ask in the comments section which many of you many of you have done from last month which was episode number 12 and we can see all the times I've done this segment in the past I've been doing this for like over a year now that's crazy but let's actually just dive right into it with the first question for mr. Shaw I'm looking at a new $200 GPU should I get a GTX 1063 gig or an Rx 484 gig that's a very good question and one that I'm sure lots of people have since $200 is a pretty popular price to pay for a GPU at least when you're looking at a slightly more budgets or more towards the budget end-rig if you're not going to be spending 3 or 400 bucks but I do want to point something out to you guys this is an article it's linked in the description we talked about it on the live show on Tuesday AMD is working on some refreshes of their current GPUs and according to this rumor article on WCC F Tech so a whole barrel of salts to go along with this but they have an Rx for 580 and RX 570 both are rebrands as the polaris GPUs at the 480 470 and 460 or based on and they're saying it's been postponed until April 18th in this article so if that is truly the case and if the article is true at all then the 580 and 570 might be providing higher clock chips and they also might be dropping the price of an 8 gig 580 which would be equivalent to an a cake 480 just a little bit faster down to $200 and that might be about a month away so again all this is rumors so it's hard to bank on it too much but you might consider hanging out for a month or so because right now you got to pay about 250 bucks for a gtx 1066 gig and you got to pay the 230 to 254 and RX 488 gig i would definitely recommend getting the larger memory capacity if that's something that's that you can afford if you can fit it in the budget so I'd look for a cheap rx 488 gig right now or hang out for a month or so see if AMD does release those rebrands and maybe you'll have some better options for you you might even see Nvidia respond with a price drop on the sin 60 so that then you'd have an option right there if you're just trying to choose between AMD and NVIDIA consider your monitor if you're ever thinking about doing g-sync or freesync you might lean towards AMD at that lower end of the budget because the monitors you can get free think tend to be a lot less expensive thank you for the question though next question from Tarun Amex Tarun Amex three weeks ago are they're still going to be lower and then CPUs and the answer here will be yes and a lot of you guys might be already familiar with this but let's take a look at it real quick this just dropped a couple days ago and he has released information about the rise and 5 CPUs they should be available for sale April 11th so just under a month away it's going to be available for $169 so there's the whole product stack right there a 1400 1500 X 1600 and 1600 X these are also based on the same dies as the Rison 7 so they're going to have cores disabled but we're told they're still going to be using both CCX units so there's still a lot of questions as far as performance goes and particularly gaming performance and that kind of thing but yes to answer your question yes and you have quad cores as well six cores with SMT multi-threading to give you eight threads or 12 threads for pretty reasonable prices so I feel like I can at this point without having tested or put my hands on these CPUs at all say these will probably be pretty good options for multi-use computing we're definitely going to be hidden these pretty hard with the gaming benchmarks because that was one of the shortcomings and CPU limited situations with the rise in seven CPUs and since these are definitely geared more towards the lower budget CP lower budget systems the gamers might be more interested in the gaming performance particularly at lower resolutions where you can become more CPU bound is going to be a pretty important question so yes yes is the answer to your question and give us a few weeks until hopefully we can give you guys some reviews on those and talk about the performance next question from yummy Frank C Paul what difference does a tip set make also a good question if you're not familiar with chip steps and how they work and what they do there's actually many different answers to this question it's not just simple here is exactly what they do I mean the chipset gives you a bunch of additional input and outputs so you can have what's called the PCH the peripheral controller hubs that's part of the chipset that can control stuff like SATA ports and that kind of thing on the intel side your chipset will determine whether or not you have unlocked overclocking support or overclocking support for unlocked case cube processors so if you have a 7700 K for example CPU then you've got to have a z170 or is the 270 chipset motherboard in order to overclock it the lower-end chipsets on n cell don't allow for overclocking and II of course has a bunch of of things as well so here's a quick chart of that if you want to check it out and I know this looks a little complex so I'm not going to go through all of it right now suffice to say the high-end chipsets are generally going to be in more expensive motherboards and have the vast array of features or basically all the features that are available for the platform so like with X 370 on the AMD side you are able to split your PCIe lanes for graphics cards to one by 16 and 2 by 8 which will give you support for SLI or crossfire 2 way also for USB you might get more USB 3.1 ports Gen 2 USB 3.1 gen2 on ports USB 2.0 ports you can see the number of those all the way down line the number of SATA and nvme devices it can be attached the number of SATA Express devices it can be attached those are stupid so don't worry about those PCI Express SATA raid all that kind of stuff so pay attention to those charts look at your budgets and what your CPU is supposed to do and what you want to do with your computer by and large you can get away with the higher-end chipsets if you start getting into the more budget options is where you start to really kind of see features disappear and you might not get something that you might want like say you want support for raid 10 or something like that again though there's lots of variances so there's no quick and easy answer to this but if you do want some additional viewing material I'll post the link in the comment form I should you get a budget chipset motherboard which is gosh a couple years old now but still very relevant I even had well look that's like my before I built my set out on my tables and everything I get o it looks horrible anyway hopefully should help you out though next question from macro and micro Boone do you still use third-party antivirus or anti-malware software and why or why not I would love to say no I don't my initial response was going to be no I don't and the reason why not would be because I've been using the Internet for quite a few years now since since the internet became something that the public had access to since since AOL AOL days let's put it that way and I've just gotten used to when browsing you know the shady stuff is often very evidence you know when you click on something and you get a big pop up that like starts giving you an alert that like you have a virus if you have to click here and go here to fix it or whatever like I know that's BS and I'm just going to like close out that window or you know you know that kind of thing and that usually doesn't happen because usually I don't stray into the shadier parts of the internet but you know you can that can happen you can click an arrant link or something like that so when I thought about this again as I actually anti-malware for sure and malwarebytes is far and away my favorite for that that the basic version is free it's constantly updated it's really good at getting in there and rooting out stuff that might have infected your system particularly when it comes to malware so I usually want to have a new system don't have any antivirus stuff installed I'll use a system for awhile if something happens it seems fishy to me then I'll usually get malwarebytes if I'm really suspicious I'll boot into safe mode and run malwarebytes there and that can usually get rid of most stuff that's not like too too terrible as far as having infected your system but yeah that should hopefully answer your question next question from Thomas s what are some tips for people getting into custom water cooling funny you should have asked this question a few weeks ago because my most recent video posted just the that yesterday is about arctic panther my water cooled system that I built in 2015 which used to be back here behind me has been relocated to the computer room and I have been using the crap out of it but I also neglected to do the proper service and maintenance on it so that would be my biggest tip right now for people getting into custom water cooling is either don't put any additives or opaque fluid or anything like that into your liquid itself if you want something that's going to run for a long time and not require more maintenance or if you do go that route which I understand there's there's definitely some aesthetic appeal and like the opaque fluid and that kind of thing and that's why I did it and I knew I knew I was doing it that adding that stuff to it was going to potentially lead to I don't say problems but just it it's going to require more maintenance down the line I'd neglected to do that you should definitely flush your loop every six months regardless and especially if you're using something like opaque fluid beyond that I would just say generally speaking with water cooling with custom water cooling don't do it if you're on a strict budget your money will much be much better spent getting higher-end hardware like don't water cool gtx 1060 for example just sell it and get a gtx 1070 or 1080 you'll get more performance that way also I only typically recommend water clothing if you've built the system that's really high-end that's kind of reaching towards the bleeding edge of performance and only way you can get better performance is by water cooling it and overclocking it more or something like that you can also be a great option if you want something that's really quiet because if you have a lot of radiators and slow-moving fans and you have that if your fin density is low so that the air can flow through that can flow through easily then you can end up with a very cool running and very quiet system but yeah watch that maintenance and if you want more on that if you give if you didn't check it out already I will also post a link to this video restoring arctic panther part of the epic arctic panther playlist you guys check that out so it's been it's been good so far ok next question from a I'm going to call you craps gaming because your actual username is just some letters and numbers Paula what age did you start building computers and what happened to your first computer so I guess I would say 14 although that wouldn't be strictly speaking building a computer when I was about 13 or 14 I remember my dad and I went and got a huge pack 'red 486 DX based computer you know is one of those desktop ones base box with the CRT monitor on top and everything and that was 14 and then after using it for a while I did a ram upgrade on it and that was a that was my first dipping of my toe into the actually building your own computer thing I wasn't I was I think 16 that I actually went to fries and bought a bare-bones system and then got the rest of the pieces to like install everything and built what was my own computer that was just mine and I sort of I guess I sort of put it all together myself even though it was a bare-bones system from price although again we had a Commodore 64 that doesn't really count quite as much for building computers what happens in my first computer it's probably got recycled at some point again that was at 46 46 the X system and it's just that was a really long time ago and I'm not really sure what happened to it at this point yeah if I could go back I probably might have kept at least that first one for just for nostalgia sake but but I didn't so so there it is but thank you for your question craft gaming and next is Juna new tnen Knut junik new UNIX new tnen how do you whitelist channels I'm asking because a friend of mine wants to know well your friend is a very nice person if they're interested in whitelisting and let me let me walk you guys through it real quick if you're interested and this is particularly for adblock so I've actually already set it up on this let me bring it down so you can see I got a little green some mark right there for adblock so the way you do this is you got to go into a block if you just open up a block it'll it'll give you options for enabling or disabling adblock on a specific page or on a domain but you don't want to have to go and do that for every single YouTube video and if you don't want to add white list the entire YouTube website which I'm guessing a lot of you probably don't then yeah you have to do this basically you got to go into settings there's an extra checkbox there in the settings menu to specifically whitelist individual YouTube channels this is with standard adblock by the way so just go ahead and click that reset or restart your browser and then you should be able to pull that back up go in there whitelist the YouTube channel and then any page that is associated with that YouTube channel whether it be the channel page like a watch page as a channel page or anything like that you you'll still see the ads and that means I will we'll get a little bit of money from you watching those ads and and I'm very grateful to you guys for that of course if you just want to run at Buckeye like I really don't mind that either because I understand how intrusive and annoying ads can be at times but yeah that's how you weightless at least with that block Marmara zero four zero this is the last question and one that was clearly quite popular with all the thumbs ups that got in the last video do you look at your own poop before flushing it down of course I do it is a natural human instinct so look at your own poop before or like after you've done it and it's its built-in because you look at it because if it's like a strange color or something like that or it looks really weird then you know something's wrong like you got something with your intestines maybe is tighter or you've been eating the wrong food or perhaps you should stop drinking until you pass out every single night that might be something to take into consideration so Marv Marv yet to answer your question very specifically I do but guys that's all for this episode of probing fault thank you so much for probing me and of course if you guys want to ask me questions to be answered next month please leave those down in the comment section down below while you're edit hit thumbs up button and that's all thanks for watching we'll see you next time
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