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GTX 1070 SLI: Is It Worth It? - Ft. MSI 1070 Gaming X

2016-06-25
excellent so I have just received in rapid succession the msi gtx 1070 gaming ex which is my first 1070 ever then I got the founders Edition GT extensivity straight from Nvidia and then I got another msi gtx 1070 gaming ex or at least access to one temporarily thanks to my fencing partner Kyle from awesomesauce Network so of course let's just dive right into it here are some sli custom gtx 1070 benchmarks but first a quick disclaimer these cards are review samples they were sent to a straight from msi and they're set to run out of the box in OSI mode that's one of three modes selectable from the MSI gaming app the other two modes are gaming and silent if you buy one of these cards at retail you will need to get that app go into it and click the OC move button to run at these same speeds otherwise yours will run at gaming mode I also figured that since MSI is definitely down for some overclocking they ship them to us and OC mode by the way and also because several viewers asked for it in my EVGA GTX 1080 for the wind video which you can see by clicking the card right up there for this comparison I would also use my gtx 980ti but this time with a nice overclock to better match what you can get via the aftermarket cards that have just recently dropped significantly in price ok with all that said now here are some gtx 1070 sli benchmarks 3dmark fire strike is a synthetic benchmark and it is well optimized for SLI so we see great scaling from single card to two way also check out that 980ti doing much better with that overclock which has it running at about fourteen twenty two megahertz max Unigine Heaven also scales well in SLI and here especially at 4k we have over 90% scaling shows you what's possible for games that are designed for SLI with optimized drivers moving on to some actual games Metro last light is still very much a challenge graphically speaking but I'm guessing the drivers have not yet been updated for two-way SLI with this title on the ten series as scaling was pretty laughable Crysis 3 definitely scaled better into way we see nice games at all three resolutions I still think it's awesome that Crysis 3 at 14:40 takes a gtx 1080 to hit over 60 frames per second on average still a monster title GTA 5 also sees some decent sli scaling at 1440 in 4k as for those 1080 numbers I'm pretty sure we're hitting a CPU limitation there are still occasional stutters unfortunately hence the low minimum frame rates and lastly we have rise of the Tomb Raider this is in DirectX 11 mode right now since I didn't have time to try the different SLI modes for DirectX 12 with d-10 series the 10 seventies do seem to get a bit of a boost in SLI but not quite enough to beat a single 1080 at 1440 at least so kind of strange but hopefully updated future drivers will provide more performance so what have we learned from these benchmarks hopefully also by the way you guys like the new slides I tried to make them a little bit easier to read especially for anyone who might be color blind the first thing I noticed is that I found the 980ti can definitely still hang and that it really does take a gtx 1080 to beat one of these especially if it's decently overclocked I also learned that the 1070 is a beast as well and when scaling played out it hits some of the best numbers that I've seen with a two-way SLI setup although granted I have yet to test a two way GTX 1080s on the downside we've reaffirmed that good SLI scaling requires both software and driver support that some games just don't gain much from adding a second card it's this reason more than any other that keeps me from recommending multi card configurations for most gamers finally I should mention my sli bridge since the 10 series GPUs from Nvidia have new requirements and a new high bandwidth sli bridge I didn't have an HB bridge but fortunately you can use an LED bridge like this one from MSI that's only for resolutions up to 4k if you go 5 care beyond you definitely need an HB bridge but this one if you're doing 4k should work just fine and then according to my numbers it did anyway with the benchmarks done I'm not really sure what to talk about next that's ok though we can take a closer look at the card then we can do some overclocking and some temperature and noise test results as well so the msi gtx 1070 gaming ex has a custom PCB and cooler and it sticks to the red and black theme that msi has been using for quite some time aesthetically the twin frozer 6 cooler does have some sharper edges and some additional texture details on the shroud as well as LED lighting that's read along these sort of jagged protrusions by the fan and RGB lighting on the msi logo up on the top for airflow there's 295 millimeter double ball-bearing Torx 2.0 fans and for heat dissipation it uses 8 millimeter copper squared heat pipes and a nickel plated copper base plate the PCB redesign increases power delivery to a 10 phase array as compared to the 5 phase setup that's available on the reference board and it adds another 6 pin power connector for higher available overall power draw being a 1070 it's got n videos GP 104 Pascal GPU beneath the cooler that is the same one that's used in the GTX eighty but it is cut down to 1920 CUDA cores and 120 texture units resulting in raw compute performance coming in at 6.5 teraflops vs. 8.9 on the 1080 you also get eight gigabytes of gddr5 memory that's not gddr5 X like you get in the 1080 it runs at eight thousand megahertz effective clock speed though and it is an open design on the msi cooler so in testing it did run cooler than the founders Edition but it will push more warm air out into your case so bear that in mind back to the lighting though you can adjust the msi logos colors via the MSI gaming app software that's the same software used to engage the OC mode which has a basic set of effects options but the only ones I really found usable at least from aesthetic perspective where the static option and the breathing option the logo LED will default to white and the red LEDs default to red if the gaming app isn't running and being that the red lighting on the rest of the card is always red finding matching colors for this RGB logo was definitely a challenge I found that red and red or red and whites were all that really looked okay to me you can turn off the LEDs independently which does give you a little bit more flexibility but adding the second card just led to chaos there's no sync option so even though you can access all four of the lighting zones that's two per card individually as well as the sli bridge LED which I actually thought was a pretty cool option that it can access that on its own getting them all coordinated in a visually pleasing way was really next to impossible you can either control all of them at once which removes your ability to manipulate the RGB LEDs properly or individually which breaks any effect syncing hopefully MSI will update and improve the lighting control software in the future I guess is what I'm trying to say what about overclocking though in SLI I did that and although I had a limited amount of time with the two-way setup I still managed to add 115 points to the GPU both GPUs and about 80 to the memory that let me hit an initial overclock of 2100 one megahertz on both cards but then that then throttled back to about 20 88 after the cards warmed up I was still monitoring throttling with a Unigine Heaven burnin test and as you can see the cards do pull back from their initial peak frequencies but only about fifty to seventy-five megahertz so not too bad here is a benchmark test with the over claw going I had time to run fire strike with this but for the work I invested in it I think I got a nice boost broke the 15,000 mark on fire strike extreme a GPU temperatures stayed well under control with the MSI cards 68 c-max under load with a single card and 77 degrees Celsius for the upper card in a two way configuration if you're wondering about that gtx 980ti temperature yes it is a reference card I was using but the fans were set to 70% which kept it relatively cool under load fan noise for the gaming x10 70s was quite minimal as well they don't spin up at all at idle which is pretty common these days and under load with the OC profile they only got up to about 40% speed here's a zero fan mode speed test so you can hear ambient noise here the fans running at 40% here the fans running at 60% and finally the fans at 100% next is a look at power draw which I am still impressed with Maxwell was already very power efficient but comparing the 980ti here you can see how far Pascal has really come finally there is the price and these gaming x10 70s from MSI will cost you four hundred and sixty dollars each on Newegg at least at the time of this filming although granted none are in stock right now I am told that stock availability will be improving within the next few weeks so in July we should see more of these on store shelves but what do you guys think of the actual price it's a different situation this time around with the founders edition boards costing more than the non founders edition boards or reference versus non but it still seems hard to actually find any 1070 GPUs that actually cost $380 as promised by Nvidia at launch let alone this one that costs more than the founders Edition founders Edition cost $450 this is for 60 let me know if you guys think this card is actually worth it in the comment section down below because I am curious personally I think MSI has built a very nice card around the 1070 functionally speaking it runs cooler and quieter than the reference card while offering faster stock speeds out of the gates that said I don't think their RGB lighting implementation really makes sense as the red accents on the card limit what you can do with it also the pricing seems pretty high at the time of writing at least compared to Nvidia's MSRP and I definitely got a knock em aside one more time for shipping these reviewer cards at OC mode which just didn't really feel like it was on the up-and-up as for SLI performance it was impressive but I would still opt for a single GTX 1080 over two of these especially for nine hundred and twenty dollars for two of these the 1080 would be cheaper and the games that would have great two-way GPU performance will be balanced out by the poorly optimized titles that show little no or even reduced performance when it comes to SLI and so endeth this video guys links to this card on Amazon as well as my Paul's hardware store we can buy shirts are down below hit the like button and get subscribed if you enjoyed it and as always thank you very much for watching
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