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so what's going to happen to CPU prices when AMD's rivin launches this video is speculative I'm going to be discussing that very question it's one that I'm sure many of you have asked as well I'm going to talk about what we know so far what we're expecting soon with a fair degree of certainty and what I think the perfect launch would be for consumers as well as AMD when it comes to their rides and CPUs and their pricing first let's go over the facts on the Intel applied they just launched kb lake at the beginning of january and they've continued their somewhat boring and predictable trend in their mainstream cpu line it the processes are still limited to four cores and eight threads max overclocking is still limited to just a few unlocked case Q CPUs that tend to feel overpriced and going beyond for physical cores with Intel means you have to upgrade to their enthusiast platform where you'll usually find more expensive x99 motherboards and much more expensive drug well II CPUs I'm am decide they have had a lot to talk about lately their new Zen CPU architecture will be integrated into ally of CPUs called risin with one shift codenamed summit ridge that has been detailed more specifically and showing off in a few demos the summit ridge cpu has eight physical cores and sixteen threads via simultaneous multi-threading which is akin to Intel hyper threading it has 24 pci express gen 3 lanes and andy has confirmed that all rise in class cpus will have a base clock of at least 3 point 4 gigahertz with some leaked demo showing chip running at 3.9 gigahertz turbo game DS demos have been telling us repeatedly that the instructions per clock performance that they're seeing is in line with intel's broadwell ecp use which is very nice if true verizon cpus will launch in the first quarter of 2017 and it will most likely be other cpu versions in the family as well probably with fewer physical cores and possibly also with multi-threading turned off so before we move on let me remind you that the last time AMD was beating intel with a faster cpu was about 11 to 12 years ago with andy's original FX series in 2005-2006 the last time they see teams were competitive with intel on an instructions per clock level was about six years ago before sandy bridge launched beyond that they've stayed in the game with aggressive pricing and summon vations on the APU side but the industry is beyond ready for them to kick intel on the pants with some real refreshed competition now for the speculation part of this video I'm going to assume a few things based on promises that have been made and launch date ranges that have been set we can't assume for example that Intel is just waiting for AMD to launch horizon until they make a move with pricing because Intel's pricing simply has not changed on this chart I've laid out sort of a recent history of Intel CPUs going back to about twenty eleven these are the mainstream CPUs and then I have launched pricing here also listed this information is all taken from CPU worldcom and i'm using the OEM pricing unlocked quad cores you might notice costs between 200 and 250 dollars depending on which one that you were getting of course and the price has increased a little bit if you go back to Sandy Bridge it costs about 300 to 350 dollars for the unlocked quad core with hyper-threading and again the price has gone up since 2011 pricing increased from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge but increased even more if you look at Ivy Bridge to as well and it's kind of leveled off since then you also might notice though that their overall production cycle has slowed down this came out in January 2011 the original Sandy Bridge chips and they were supposed to basically keep up with a yearly launched on the mainstream side this was based on their old tic-tock production cycle has a refresh was the first extra CPU line that was added right here in June 2014 that was neither a tick Nora talk and intel has now formalized process architecture optimization as their cycles instead of tick-tock and there's more on that in my first five things you need to know about cable ache video I'll put a card right up there in the corner if you guys want to check that out kb lake is now also an optimization cycle rather than a tick or a talk and it definitely shows in the complete lack of instructions for clocks performance improvements compared to Sky lake as seen in my QB lake benchmarks video and i'll post paid cards to link that up in the corner as well all this is to say that it's obvious that intel has both slowed down their development cycle and raised their prices in the last six years if kick talk had kept up the yearly pace after sandy bridge launched back in 2011 well we would have seemed canon lake launched in January 2016 a full year ago goodness canon lake launched again anyway here's my shirt that I had a lot of fun with I am basically speculating on what versions of rise in AMD might launch and what their core counts and thread count might be now Vera mine all the CPUs I'm listing here is TBD I'm making up I have no reason to believe any of these actually exists I have no confirmed information the only thing we have really confirmed to summit ridge and the stuff I discussed at the beginning of the video that AMD has said yes this will happen we are told of course at the CPU is a lot of 24 pcie lanes and that the all shiva 3.4 gigahertz clock speed at minimum with automatic dover clocking based on your cooling setup as well so i assume that the core count and thread counts will be the main major differentiating factors in pricing and performance between rise and cpus i'm also assuming that rise in per clock performance will be equal to broad well II and a bit slower than cable inc so I've Intel's QB lake unlock CPUs listed including the dual-core 73 50k right over here as well as a couple of their broadwell ease to be used from the enthusiast platform so starting from the bottom we have a fork or four thread rise in cpu for just one hundred and twenty-five dollars this might be wishful thinking but just look how terrible it would make the 73 50k look actually four fours rather than two with hyper-threading and a perfectly attainable budget chip in the low 100 dollar range I would happily recommend entry-level builds based on something like this next is the multi-threaded version of the quad-core 175 dollars walking all over the 73 50k and probably smacking the 7600 k around to which would be in the tier above it at least in multi-threaded workloads and games it would also be sitting down here at the hundred and seventy five dollar price point looking up there if the 7700 k waving hi to be in like a why is it need to cost so much money for having four cores and eighth ribs at 225 dollars we have a 6-core sixth Red reisen ship which would hopefully still outperform the 448 thread version that's fifty dollars cheaper while also meeting the 7600 k and again pointing at the six core Intel 6800 k that's up here at four hundred and thirty four dollars and wondering why it costs so much money like twice as much and why the 6800 k just has such expensive teats a 6 quart well thread rise in CP you should then be able to take out the 7700 k at least with apps that use all those threads and also set the entropy for higher-end workstations about a hundred bucks cheaper than what the Intel enthusiast platform currently costs which is what you have to buy into if you want six quarts finally for the full summit ridge experience I have an eight-core 16 thread ship at five hundred dollars and then another one at six hundred and fifty dollars and I assumed they maybe do some bidding for the more expensive part to guarantee higher clock speeds or something like that now 500 plus dollars is a lot for a cpu I mean I'm not not kidding around here but remembers that these cpus should be able to compete with Intel's thousand-dollar Broadwell eight processors and AMD does need to have some flagship level products to re-establish themselves with a high-end manufacturer and to earn some money again if they want to keep up with Intel in the coming years and finally here is my survival shirts which is based on the wishful thinking of these chart i just showed you and potential AMD launches and pricing what I think the reduction in price and Intel CPUs would be across the board and basically you look at about fifty to a hundred dollars 100 ish dollars for the high-end ones and more like a fifty dollar reduction down at the lower end like the 73 50k Austin 130 bucks which seems like what it should cost not a hundred and eighty bucks wouldn't that be nice now I think insult would still be touting their IPC lead over rising because that does seem like it will be the case when it launches at least was something like kb lake cpus for example they would still priced them maybe just a little bit higher than the AMD chips but I'm also not sure where this would leave until eight core 6900 k or ten core 6950 X which cost eleven hundred and seventeen hundred dollars respectively but I have to imagine those prices would drop as well but it would be nice to be able to get for example 73 50k 430 7600 k for actually two hundred bucks 7700 k for 275 that'd be a nice discount i 760 800k around 375 and 68 50k around 525 and i can't imagine the eight core and 10 core processors costing too much more it would be at least nice to see the 16 DX come down to actually a thousand dollars rather than 1,700 now again guys this is primarily speculation apart from the facts listed towards the beginning of this video so none of this might actually happen Andy might price their parts way higher and nothing might change price-wise on the Intel side or we might find out that we've been totally duped by the early leaks and demos and the verizon performance just isn't there and it's not competitive I find that to be unlikely we might even see rising ships be less expensive than what I'm speculating here there have been rumors to that effect that like the summit ridge might cost less or the same price is what a 7700 k currently costs but I found that to be less likely because it would really gut the pcu mark as a cpu market and you know the companies do have to make some profit I think what I've shown here is pretty feasible though and it is a big reason why i've been recommending that people wait for now if you're about to build a new system at least until febuary and march roll around and if you're really patient Intel's enthusiast platform is usually refreshed every three years and x99 has launched in 2014 2014 2015 2016 2017 so if reisen does hit hard out of the gates there is an answer from intel possibly on the horizon when x 2 99 launches probably later this year that's all for this video though guys thank you so much for watching and let me know it's speculative videos like this one are useful for you at all of course hit the like button comment subscribe 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