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there has been a lot of speculation lately about what the cpu market will look like next month after AMD launches their third gen Rison processors based on a new microarchitecture and seven nanometer process technology Intel AMD is biggest and essentially their only competition on the CPU side of things is still struggling to bring their next-gen desktop parts to market which will be based on a 10 nanometer process Intel's 10 nanometer Hardware has been teased since 2015 but has also been repeatedly delayed with a current expected launch in late 2019 rather than berate Intel for letting AMD catch up or going off on how much better rise in 3000 series will be which we won't truly know until the reviews come out at the beginning of July I offer a solution Intel needs another 2,500 K the Intel Core i5 2500 K is a legendary CPU that was introduced on january 9th 2011 it was based on Intel Sandy Bridge architecture and manufactured using 32 nanometer lithography and sold for 216 dollars per CPU if you bought to pray of 1000 units retail prices we're usually about 220 to 230 dollars which put it right in the sweet spot for a mid-range gaming PC build the 2500 K had 4 cores but no hyper threading so four threads as well you had to pay another 100 plus dollars for the 2600 K to get 8 threads in those days actually until still charges you a heavy premium for hyper threading but more on that in just a bit under load 4 cores would run at 3.3 to 3.4 gigahertz and a single core would boost to 3.7 gigahertz which wasn't too shabby it also had a dual channel ddr3 memory controller and an eye GPU which is a new thing at the time Intel HD graphics 3000 integrated onto the die sporting Gen 6 microarchitecture and 12 execution units running it up to 1,100 megahertz just make sure that your motherboard has video outs if you want to make use of that AI GPU and that means a z68 board rather than P 67 P 67 was a weird chipset that didn't support video outs but did support overclocking and also had a brief recall due to a bug with the SATA controller but I don't want to go off on too much of a tangent about LGA 1155 motherboards I mainly wanted to point out that Intel's motherboard lineup used to be even more confusing than it is today and simplifying it would be a good thing to wrap up my look back at the 2500 K though I want to point out two amazing things it had just a 95 watt TDP and the performance per watt at the time made even high-end desktop users jealous simply due to its efficiency then finally it being a 2500 K meant that you could overclock that's what the K means on the end by quite a bit actually and also quite easily if you had decent cooling which basically meant an OG $30.00 cooler master hyper 212 you could literally just set the multiplier to 44 and have a stable long-term Alcor OC to 4.4 gigahertz well over a 20% bump from stock this combination of efficiency and performance as well as that bit of easily accessible extra sauce that you can get from overclocking made the 2500 K the go to gaming CPU and I know that there are quite a few of you out there who are still running the Sandy Bridge champion today and that long-term viability is something that also isn't often discussed that means that the 2500 K was even more of a value for the money and here's where I think Intel has really lost the plot in recent years they just went far too long with that legitimate competition from AMD I would say about 10 years from the late 2000s up until first gen Rison in 2017 and their CPUs just seemed to offer less and less value in the interim while performance plateaued on top of that they decided that four cores was enough for the mainstream market hyper-threading should cost you at least a $100 premium and that platform longevity beyond one to two years was simply unnecessary none of these choices were consumer friendly and AMD has in my opinion pointed this out in glaring fashion with their competing mainstream Rison products for well over two years now if Intel wants to win back gamers and PC enthusiasts I think there are four things that they need to do with the new version of the 2500 K which I am advising them to make and sell as soon as possible so first off until no more skimping on cores and threads AMD has made hyper threading or simultaneous multi-threading a standard even at the lower end of their product stack and Intel needs to stop pretending that they're hyper threading tech is some magic price inflating unicorn AMD has already listed the names pricing and specs of their 3000 series CPUs in the 200 to 250 dollar price range that the 2500 case successors should be living in there is the risin 5 3600 X which is a 6-quart well thread 3.8 gigahertz to 4.4 gigahertz CPU with a 35 megabyte cache 95 watt TDP and 249 dollar price tag and then there's also the horizon 5 3600 also six cores and twelve threads running at 3.6 to 4.2 gigahertz with a 65 watt TDP for 199 dollars note that both of these are unlocked so it's safe to assume that a savvy user could probably buy the $200 3600 and overclock it to just about equivalent performance to the 3600 X if you want more cores and threads AMD is starting its eight core 16 thread line up at three hundred and thirty dollars with the 3700 X just FYI so there it is Intel you need to match AMD here with a six core 12 thread CPU nothing less will be acceptable in this price range next I want a long-term or at least longer term a platform for intel's next generation of desktop CPUs by platform I mean the motherboard and chipset line-up AMD launched their socket a.m. for platform back in 2017 and promised to keep it viable through 2020 I think they lived up to that promise with three generations of Rison CPUs living on the same platform meaning that some users who invested in a 300 series motherboard back in 2017 will be able to drop in a new CPU in 2019 or 2020 with more cores and threads than expected without doing a complete system overhaul I think there is value in that as well and I would love to see Intel commit to something similar with a few generations of CPUs planned for the same socket motherboards this would also be an improvement over the original 2500 K which had two generations of motherboards in its LGA 1155 socket z68 originally and then z77 these were launched in 2011 and 2012 next is frequency and overclocking which are becoming more and more important for Intel especially if the third gen Rison specs that we have seen so far are consistent higher frequency directly impacts instructions for clock performance and IPC is where the battle has raged in the past couple years when comparing AMD and Intel given how much time they have been working on 10 nanometer I'm really hoping that we'll see frequencies go beyond 5 gigahertz especially with more advanced cooling ideally the new 2500 K would hit 4.5 to 5 gigahertz at stock giving it a head start over the rise in 3000 series when it comes to frequency and then also have the potential to go to 5 point 4 or 5 points 5 gigahertz if you want to spend some time overclocking or if you upgrade your cooling solution frequency isn't everything of course but I'd love to get back to that satisfying feeling of getting more for your money by just making a few tweaks to the UEFI which is really what overclocking is all about finally as is pretty much the case with I guess pretty much everything in the world we need a good price I think going back to the 220 or 230 dollar cost of the original 2500 K would be a good idea it would actually undercut AMD's 3,600 X and it's a really good price for a mid-range one thousand dollar build was plenty of budget left over for a GPU and other components I think PC gamers are getting tired of feeling like they need to spend another hundred dollars for more cores and then another hundred dollars for hyper-threading only to find that the cpu they want is now in the 400 to 500 dollar price range when AMD is offering these specs and features for much less consider that the eight core 16 thread Intel 9900 K right now is 495 dollars while the AMD 2700 X is two hundred and eighty-five dollars still with eight cores and 16 threads more than $200 cheaper yes the IPC is better with the 9900 K what is it two hundred dollars better most gamers would rather just spend that money on a better GPU so Intel give us a this is all you need kickass CPU in the 200 to 250 dollar price range and watch how much gamers will love you for it so that's my solution in late 2019 or even early 2020 Intel needs to launch a 2500 K Redux a $220 bang for the buck overclocking beast with six cores 12 threads and a reasonable TDP at around 100 watts put down a new platform with a new socket and let us know that you'll be using that platform for three years at minimum and then actually follow through on that also please don't call it to 2500 K Redux or anything make a simplified product naming system for the new CPUs it doesn't confuse people oh and also just one more thing Intel please update and improve your stock CPU cooler and go back to including it even with the case cube processors budget builds need CPU coolers too and no cooler in the box with the CPU means you need to add 20 to 30 dollars to the base price so that you can just keep the system up and running and that's pretty much all I have for today guys thank you so much for watching and let me know if you would buy this CPU or the theoretical new version of the CPU if Intel launched it and if it would change your feelings about Intel at all if you've been feeling negatively about them to any degree alternatively if you think there's some other key feature that this theoretical new CPU needs that I didn't mention and let me know in the comments section below as well don't forget to Like and subscribe this video while you're edit we'll see you guys in the next one