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Is RTX 2080 Ti Pricing Really THAT Bad? Probing Paul #29

2018-10-21
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playlist now in episode 28 actually asked a question which is about background music in videos such as this where I'm just kind of talking at you guys for a little while and the response was pretty overwhelming actually and actually eye-opening for me people don't like the music they said it's distracting if I'm just talking so I'm going to take that to heart it does take more effort to put the background music in there and I will leave it out of this type of video from now on except maybe for some quick music for an intro or an outro I got a quite a few comments actually in the comments from the last video - such as Vito or the Al's just following up and saying yes he actually prefers but you know sits out background music so cool I'm gonna stick with that I also wanted to point out some additional feedback I got from last month which is about my audio and my audio is something that I do try to keep an eye on not an eye in ear I guess but I'm renting out and several of the people who have pointed out that you can hear my dog here oh he's snoring in the background so actually for today I'm going with a different audio setup I'm using my lav mic which has proven to be a little bit better of a solution out here in the garage especially when it's really hot and after an the air conditioner or of course if hero is in here and he's snoring or breathing loudly which he is doing right now he's a hundred pound Italian Mastiff mix and he can get a little noisy sometimes so let me know I actually have him in here right now and he is breathing let me know if you hereit's or if it's better or worse than in the past videos when I've used this mic this is actually condenser mic and it's a good mic but it's not made for a scenario like I'm in right now where there's potentially other noise that it could pick up on because it does do that so for today I'm sticking with a lav mic and again let me know what you guys think if the audio is better this way and of course how much you can hear hero's breathing in the background one more question related to last month's video which is about 140 millimeter fans versus hundred and twenty millimeter fans and this is just a little bit of math that I didn't quite point out lots of people said it's 20 millimeters bigger of course 120 to 140 but with 120 140 you're talking about the side of the fan measurements and of course you have to multiply it both sides in order to get the total area of the fan and Williams just pointing out here that 140 millimeter squared is a lot bigger than 120 millimeter squared 120 times 120 is about 14400 140 times 140 is about 19,600 square millimeters so 35% more area and that means it can move more air and be quieter and all that good stuff moving on the next question here is from Niall Pierce and he says hey Paul any chance you can do a tutorial video on clean windows installs or moving your installed operating system over to a different storage drive and I'll actually have several videos on this topic specifically or at least setting up a new PC my most recent one is maybe two two and a half months ago so I'll link that in the video description if you want to check it out that's taking you from the I just built a new computer to getting Windows onto a USB Drive and pulling that USB Drive in and installing Windows onto the system and getting it set up for the first time which isn't always covered in my build videos but you're talking about migrating an operating system from an existing computer over to a new computer and you might notice that I almost never do that and there's specific reasons mainly due to my past experience with PC building and attempting to migrate operating systems over it's mainly a peace of mind thing for me but there are potential issues that can go on when you're taking an operating system moving it from one system to another with completely different Hardware since Windows 7 it has gotten a lot better so it is something that you are possibly able to do the reason I don't do tutorials is because everyone's situation is a little bit different so I couldn't necessarily address the potential problems that you might have versus someone else who's migrating from a completely different system the easiest the simplest way the confident way that you can be sure that your new system is getting the maximum amount of performance it's just to do a clean install if you're moving from an old system to a new system and you're doing a clean install there's a pretty short list of things that you can make sure you do to get everything from your old system on to your new system the first is of course to check my documents and hopefully you have a repository where you've been saving everything personal files and everything usually that's my documents so back that up to an external drive back everywhere else that you might have saved files to an external drive go into your install programs lists and write down the names of all the programs that you have installed that you use regularly and I also like to go into my browsers like Chrome or Firefox and if you have a bunch of shortcuts or bookmarks you can actually back those up and save them fortunately like with Chrome if you log in with your Chrome ID it will save those to the cloud now so you don't necessarily need to do that stuff but if you're not logging in with a cloud account then that's something you should probably do as well ultimately though I just recommend the clean install because it's the way you'll be ensured that your system is going to be operating at peak efficiency that you don't have any old clutter from your old system that might be bogging things down and causing the system to take way too long to start up or anything like that and finally if you're familiar and comfortable with a clean system install and a reformat of your system if you ever have issues in the future like getting a virus or something like that it's the easiest way to remove that I've got all my stuff backed up elsewhere wipe the drive reformat reinstall virus is gone in like 99.9% of scenarios so hopefully that helps you out and again check that how to set up a new PC video if you want a step-by-step guide next question from silver rides he says given that plenty of people are already buying to 1080 T is at the time is the price of 2080s really that crazy and I think he's talked about 20 ATT is don't get me wrong it's all crazy but people were already spending that much money clearly they had no problems buying them up as soon as the 2080s came out so maybe Nvidia knows exactly what they're doing I think this is worth taking another look at and so if I apologize if you get any hate in the comments from people who are like no their price gouging us and we deserve to be able to buy twenty ATT eyes for 800 bucks or whatever you personally feel these cards should sell for when I think about the twenty atti pricing though what comes to mind most often is the Titan and the Titan was launched back in 2013 I think the first version of it and it was $1000 at the time when the most expensive graphics cards were selling for five or 600 bucks each there are differences between the launches the Titan was launched as a bridge to the workstation market so you could use it for gaming but they're like no this is actually for workstation stuff but then of course it went into a bunch of high-end gaming systems whereas the 2080 Ti is very much this is a consumer graphics card that we're expecting people to spawn spend $1,200 on the reason I relate this to the Titan is because I know the Titan sold for as much of an elites out of most people's price range product that it was it still sold regularly and it sold for $1000 to the point where they felt comfortable releasing other Titans that cost even more than that when it came to like the Titan XP so if you might look at that from invidious perspective and give them the best possible benefit of the doubt that you can then you can say well they're making a business's decision to sell these cards at a certain price they know they can get that much money for it and they know there are enough people who will pay that much to make it worth their while despite all the other people who can usually only afford cards that are maybe three or four hundred bucks complaining that this product is LEED and outside the price range of most people that said though if there is frustration being directed at Nvidia that is perfectly legitimate right now I think it comes down to this Moore's law is slowing down we're not able to get the constant increases in performance both for CPUs and what GPUs that we were a little bit spoiled with in like say the 90s and 2000's so if you look at the past 20 years or so every few years you could probably buy a new component a new GPU a new CPU for the same price as you spent a couple years back and get a pretty solid boost in performance 10 20 30 40 percent sometimes whereas now the performance improvements they're just charging more money for and again from invidious perspective that makes total sense because their business they need to make as much money as possible and there's no competition from our perspective that sucks because we have been accustomed to being able to spend the same amount of money a few years later and get more performance now it's a few years later and we have to spend more money for more performance and of course that pisses people off who are used to the old style I like the old style better - I agree that these cards are very overpriced but as long as people keep buying them Nvidia is gonna keep selling them for that price and it's not really going to matter how many people complain that they can't afford it as long as other people are actually so that's how it's gonna go until AMD comes up with something that's competitive I hope that happens soon next question from Drago hullick hey Paul is the length of a cable ever a bottleneck for gaming eg if I get 90 frames per second with my 2 meter HDMI cable if I were to get a 5 meter or longer one would I see any noticeable changes I'm gonna address your question in two ways first of all when it comes to HDMI when you're talking about a digital signal it's a yes or no game there's nothing like with an analog signal where it degrades and then you get limited performance or not as many frames per second if it's not working it's not gonna work this does mean to answer your question 2 meters 5 meters no difference it's not gonna affect your frame rate or anything like that the larger question is how long can an HDMI cable be and it turns out there is an answer to that question I'll link this article it's from 2011 but still perfectly viable today about extending HDMI cables it's from Popular Mechanics it goes into a little bit more of the details for that but 50 feet is the short answer is the maximum length that an HDMI cable can be and reliably still provide a signal you'll find that if you look at HDMI cables you probably will have a hard time finding anything longer than 25 feet and that's simply because people don't often need anything more than 25 feet and manufacturers don't have to worry about those situations where the source isn't able to actually send the signal that far which can't happen in certain situations I have a couple products I wanted to show you guys that are related to this but I need to make a huge disclaimer first that my wife works for monoprice so please don't accept this as a full-throated endorsement of monoprice or anything like that I'm basically referring you to the fact that these products exist and when it comes to something like an HDMI signal you actually have multiple choices for how to extend that signal longer if you so desire or need to and one of the cool ways to do it is actually to take the HDMI and feed it into a cat 6 cable and there you can go runs at least according to these products of up to 164 feet so it's got a main unit here that you feed power to and then you feed your HDMI signal into and then it's got four cat six outs where you can take cat 6 cable and then route those over to these smaller units cat 6 go into this goes into the small unit it's got an HDMI out and then you plug that into your display and again guys I'm only bringing this up because it's something that exists and when it comes to HDMI signals if you want to take a source and then feed it to somewhere very far away this is just something that I was aware of that I'm not everyone might be but again just to be fully clear my wife works for monoprice so I want to disclose that before I talk about any of their products anytime I talk about any of their products moving on though I have a couple questions from Twitter this is from Rob at that mailing guy he said an impromptu probing of Paul Hardware I don't think he even knew that I was about to do this Q&A video he says he's recently upgraded to a 1070 TI he's looking for a new monitor there's many options and he wants my suggestions for a budget of 400 to 500 $50 bigger the better of course so I would want to maximize your PC gaming advantages say over consoles and I'm not saying consoles are bad if you want a game on a console that's fine but there are things that you can say this is what PC gaming is better at one of those is high resolution you don't want to go 4k because it'd be hard to push that with a 1070 TI so 2560 by 1440 I think is your bread-and-butter range and then me on that you want G sink because adaptive framerate is one of the very nice things again that PC gaming can do that you can't necessarily get on the consoles so looking at those two parameters 2560 by 1440 and gsync and I'm just looking at Newegg for all of the monitors they have I'm only looking at what new.i excels because I don't like doing marketplace sellers but here we can see we've got an Acer and a OC we've also got Asus models here that are within the 500 to $600 range this might be just ever so slightly out of the five hundred and fifty dollar max that you pointed out but I would definitely say it's worth it to try to try to creep up you know if it's just a matter of another 15 or 20 bucks this is a 27-inch monitor so it's a very nice-sized 2560 by 1440 is your resolution and then also high refresh rate this is 144 Hertz refresh rate and you can overclock it potentially 265 Hertz there's also an asus rog swift version for about 600 bucks these are TN panels so they're not going to be quite the level of color depth but honestly for gaming I think the resolution refresh rate and then of course G sync is going to be a better bet and then I also went and just did a similar search here over here on PC part picker to try to get a bit wider range of potential stores and here you can actually see there's some 24 inch versions you can get for about 400 bucks I'd recommend $500 and for $500 you can get this one right here the Aesir predator xbone the same one we were looking at just a second ago that's about 565 on Newegg it's actually available on Amazon and Newegg business for 500 bucks like that so this Acer predator is what I would get right now just if I was shopping right now and needed to buy something right now but again double-check reality check take those parameters 2560 by 1440 G's settings support plug them in and then when it comes to brands acer is a great choice asus is a great choice dell has some great options out there too i saw an LG in there as well i've never had a problem with them either so hopefully that will help you out and one last question here this one's a little bit more random from Michael C he asks Paul have you been losing weight um no wait hold on a sec okay I literally just wouldn't weighed myself because I had no idea and I haven't weighed myself in a while no Michael I have not lost weight but I'm somewhat flattered that you thought I did and I will hopefully use this as motivation to continue exercising and eating lots of fruits and vegetables but gosh the holiday season is upon us so that might be challenging I'll do my best thank you for your question Michael and thank you guys all so much for watching this video if you enjoyed it hit the thumbs up button and of course leave me a question in the comment section down below if you want me to potentially answer it in next month's probing Paul thanks again for watching guys and we'll see you next time
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