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Mini ITX vs Standard ATX - Probing Paul #8 (PI Edition!)

2016-10-31
excellent what's up guys welcome back to Pauls hardware this is probing Paul episode number 8 that's about eight I'm actually in the Philippines right now I'm in pondan which is out in the provinces so you might hear some roosters in the background and maybe a tricycle or two rolling by but I also realized that I did not do a probing Paul last month I completely blanked as I was working on my ears rooster as I was working on my how to build a computer suit so check that out if you haven't already and I'm going to get right into the questions these are all taking taken from the comments section of the last episode of protocol so the first one is from Matt matrix and he asks just curious is then going to be ddr3 compatible or is it exclusively ddr4 he's heard both sides or you can't find a solid answer AMD so far has announced ddr4 compatibility so I don't see ddr3 being a thing there as well and it's definitely something that AMD would need to support since the memory controller is actually in there as part of the processor when Intel introduced Andy bridge not syncovich an inch ten intelligence skylake they did include a ddr3l controller as or the controller was capable of ddr4 or ddr3l nothing about that from AMD so far so I'm expecting just ddr4 support which honestly I think is the right way to go because it's the newest and latest standard next question is from Kenney Freeman would an all-in-one PC ever find its way into your house and if so what would you use it for Kenny that's a good question and my initial response would be no because it's just not really my thing all in ones buts there are some out there that have been pretty intriguing at origin for example has an omni they have different variations of it available but it has like a 34 inch or 35 inch 34 40 by 1440 widescreen monitor and that's kind of my thing with the with all-in-ones is you're stuck with whatever monitor you get that and the lack of upgrade options origin has managed to make one that has a really good monitor built-in first of all and also has a lot of upgrade options for it I mean you can get up to like a 59 60 X or 69 58 in there so I might consider something like that what would I use it for I mean just a gaming PC probably something like that but that is the downside of the all-in-ones is you're stuck with whatever monitor they give you so you know if you got a 1080 all in one right now you probably feel pretty left out as people move to 4k really soon the dirty diddler tasks that's a great screen name how long do you think a core i7 6700 K will last will still be viable for gaming video rendering or streaming or an streaming for a few years or should you upgrade to something like a 6800 K I think the 6700 K will last a good two to four years depending on what you're planning on doing with it for gaming streaming basic video rendering you're probably just fine but if you're moving again towards that 4k or higher resolution when it comes to both video rendering or game streaming you'll probably start to feel like maybe you need a few more cores in there so that's probably where it's going to start to feel a little bit slower but honestly 6700 under K is an awesome processor right now especially if you overclock it you have eight threads to work with still so I wouldn't be too concerned it will probably last you quite a while but if you're really worried maybe start looking at the indusial stuff from n celldex 99 platform and maybe a six core or an eight core processor Vedanta Sharma asks well first he said I really love your videos and that's always awesome thank you very much for saying that his question is M ITX mini-itx builds are they on par with ATX builds he loves the way small form-factor pcs look he complimented my wife's PC hot box that I built just recently she that made her smile yep she's smiling and he's really interested in building a powerful machine and I could define an OS there are some downsides many ikx pcs he won't be doing sli but is it a good move alright so definitely with mini ITX you get the small footprint you get the portability factor and yeah they can be quite cute the trade-off there is that you're not going to get as much expandability you don't have any extra expansion slots to work with and you're also probably going to be dealing with a little bit more restriction when it comes to airflow and keeping things cool that said a chassis like the define now s does have a pretty standard layout as far as the amount of fans that you can include in it and that kind of thing but you know it is a tighter amount of space to work in you might find the build process process itself to be a little bit more challenging and beyond that I want to say big thank you to Nicholas Cluj who posted a reply to your question since your question was posted a good two months ago and did a very nice layout of a several of the things I've already mentioned so I love mini ITX builds just make sure you get a case that actually has decent air flow in there because otherwise you might be really restricted and you might have to consider lower power hardware in order to make sure that you're not overheating but there are cases that can do it and define an OS is definitely one of them next question from advection 3 5 7 Paul are you a clean freak like one of those people who has their underwear arranged neatly for each day cleans dust with a magnifying glass and freaks out and when even the smallest item in the house gets slightly misplaced my wife is skelling at me now because she knows that I am NOT I aspire to be a clean freak although I do have my t-shirts folded very nicely via the konmari method which is also from my wife so I like to be clean and I like to be organized I think it helps me stay more efficient especially as I'm trying to get work done and that kind of thing but I cannot claim to be a clean freak but I do like things to be clean I'm just not like super diligent about cleaning things all the time next question from Bari so 101 what are your opinions on VC LK overclocking for skelux if use I can get a 6700 9k for about $270 and pot on overclocking it using the BC LK method I need a little bit more versatile than what a 6600 K can give me and the 6700 K is out of my budget in your situation it does make sense I have sort of stayed away from doing further tutorials on how to do the VC LK overclocking method since I did the first one because Intel cut it off newer bios's it doesn't work with many problems are going to be they're going to be working with an outdated bios one that came out around December of 2015 or January of 2016 you're not going to get any BIOS updates so you're not going to get support for like KB Lake or that kind of thing which I guess you don't really need if you're planning on just doing VC le VC okay overclocking it's an older processor but you also don't get access to some of the other kind of cool features like you don't get turbo boost that was actually my biggest disappointment with with the BC LK overclocking is you just don't get it so for some people yes it makes sense especially if it's a really a budget problem and you really do want to try overclocking just keep those issues in mind because they are downsides to be CLK over hucking all right next question from an itch patel can you get Kyle to change the name of his channel back no no I cannot and finally one more question from Mason's Accardi is it worth it to wait until say Black Friday or Cyber Monday to buy parts would I make compromises for a deal I wouldn't like in the end so just buy Parts I want now or would it be worth its wait because there's some deals and some good stuff I'd say right now since it's a beginning of November well waits but right now is about when the deals start happening so Black Friday is definitely a great time to shop for computer parts it's a definitely a time where you can get deals that you can't get other times in the year and one thing I would say to keep an eye out for is the overarching like 10% or 20% off deals that you can get from like a specific store that applies to everything and that way you can get like a good deal on like a processor or something that you wouldn't find discounted otherwise that is a great way to do it and I guess the ultimate answer to your question would be yes hold out at least until right around the Black Friday time right around the Cyber Monday time and then keep your eye out for those really good deals just bear in mind the best of the deals that you can find are the ones that are going to be gone really quick so don't like hold out forever like if you see something and it's within a reasonable price or maybe a little bit of a discount to set compared to what you have seen in the past then jump on it because you never know they might not let that deal last anyway guys that's all for this video I hope you've enjoyed it I'm going to sign up from here in the Philippine Islands you have enjoyed this video and it thumbs up button and all that good stuff and leave me comments in the comment section and let me know if you have questions for next month's probing pulp because I won't forget next month I promise see you next time
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