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into tech news let's do it what's on the list Oh that's why News News News all right it's a first stop exciting we have a bit of a correction from a story we talked about I think last week last week because we talked about we already know x5 70 is the new chipset that's coming out to go along with the release of the rise in 3000 series processors right pardon me that are coming out on July 7 7 7 mm-hmm because there's 7 nanometre mm-hmm we talked last week about the potential of an x5 90 chipset based on some documentation from some motherboard manufacturers and whatnot that according to gamers Nexus do be a source dubious at best but they say given the cows wearing it gamers Nexus sure maybe a shirt as well anyway Steve reports the articles written up by Eric Hamilton Doba Steve reports that X 590 not going to be a thing or at least not going to be a thing in the context that we expected to potentially be a thing this was probably early documentation possibly early plans that they had in place to possibly do an x5 70 chipset and an x5 90 chipset differentiating them by X 590 having PCI Express Gen 4 support for an x5 70 not having that support so they're potentially going to do a couple tiers of higher-end motherboards and I for one am glad that they did not they apparently have gone with the decision to only do X 570 X 570 having gens for support but if there is going to be an X 590 it's probably potentially going to be a threader for 3 chipset there's already been a lot of rumors flying around about thread River 3 it makes sense where you have epic chips based on the 7 nanometer and them taking that same epic configuration and translating it down to a high-end desktop implementation like they did with earlier versions of epic and thread Ripper 1 and 2 would make a lot of sense yep and for those of us at home who get excited about this sort of thing the potential for like up to 64 core high-end desktop platforms so that's that's kind of fun that's kind of fun like for all the excitement about rising 3000 and everything like if AMD in a couple months is gonna be like oh yeah and here's threader for three yeah with that kind of core count and like configuration they my goodness and these may be students but not fire easily I really I really hope the benchmarks and everything back up all the hype and everything yeah but all right beyond that this is actually from a I mean a lot of you guys probably follow a gamer gamers Nexus so you probably watched their news video yesterday so you might be aware of this stuff but we're repeating it nonetheless yeah the second thing from this set of data was the be 550 and eight 520 silicon that that talking about as media creating now I was given the impression at some point that be 550 was just not gonna be a thing that they were gonna have X 570 as like the the Halo product the high-end for the mate the mainstream high-end and then for people who wanted to spend less or didn't need all those features you just still have be 450 and and a for what and whatever those stupid a chips they're gonna 2840 I don't ever pay attention to it but it does appear according to this information that there is a be 550 and a 520 chipset in the works which might be good news for people who are looking for more recent launches of current platform stuff and not wanting to go with last gen products last gen some degree according to the article which is sourced from digi x which requires a membership which Steve pays for mmm but then he takes the information and writes it here for us what a great good job Steve thanks for dinner it's like piracy but as media is on on the hook to produce these chips expectation as for the motherboards based on them to arrive in early 2020 so be 450 right now and and I think still going forward we still need to wait for tests on the day you know on the X 570 versus 2 B 5 B 450 and everything just to give us an idea like is there really any performance difference there anything like that I think p450 is still a very viable yeah budget option and there's lots of good motherboards based on that and most don't see a point for beef by 50 yeah this is why it was so plausible that there wouldn't be a beef I 50 because what are you really getting out of it that'd be 450 doesn't deliver and so the question remains and is it's not answered by this article is whether if these new chips that's are going to come out do they support PCI Express Gen 4 it would kind of make sense for them not to again to keep that you know the sort of halo feature for the X 570 chipset but at the same time like Chow said what's the point you then of making B 550 and a 520 if there's not some level of support for that so we will have to wait and see there might be a little more limited support fewer lanes some Gen 4 lanes and 7 gen 3 is it's hard to say for sure for now P 450 is probably going to remain the best budget option if you don't need that PCI Express Gen 4 support and honestly right now or for the foreseeable future at least this year there's going to be no point to PCI Express Gen 4 beyond people using really high-end superfast nvme SSDs yeah which are pretty awesome because they go up to like five thousand megabytes a second reads and upwards of 4,000 megabytes per second writes that's pretty cool on a single drive don't get me wrong but not everyone needs that yeah so anyway pick your poison I needed some new stuff coming out soon but x5 90 is probably not gonna be it moving on here I was looking at his joke of it hero here are you having too much fun okay sorry about that plot twist he's the porn bot this is an article from The Washington Post which does have a pay gate actually hey Pete yeah Washington Post you have to pay if you want old tables okay you can make like you can watch you can read up to four or five and the single instance yeah just open them in an incognito tab and you can watch it many as you want anyway point being this dude Jeffrey Fowler the the the guy wrote the article did a bunch of testing with Chrome and he found that my goodness is there a lot of tracking going on this is an opinion piece but for anyone who's concerned about privacy or it's concerned about being tracked I was just concerned about the level of information that a lot of online companies are are getting at now that is that is apparently being aided and abetted by Google's Chrome browser it's it's it's pretty out of hand and you know if you look at the numbers he took a deep dive into Chrome's handling of data he ran experiments on how it operates under the hood and one test he found a week's worth of web browsing uncovered over 11,000 requests for tracking cookies the chrome allowed by default all of which Firefox because he was doing a comparison test between Chrome and Firefox automatically blocked we've talked about some recent updates to chrome that are going to seriously disable the vast majority of the abilities for ad blockers such as you block origin which we recommend you use which we also are happy if you whitelist us on but we totally don't blame you if you don't because man a lot of ads are very invasive and especially the you know we it really makes sense to run an ad blocker for a general internet usage these days chrome welcomed trackers even at private sites he claims Aetna and federal student aid sights set cookies for Facebook and Google which in turn told the tech companies whenever he would pull up the insurance and loan services login pages he also said google signs him into his own account so you know for this for the for the cost of that convenience is like oh like this website just knows who I am I can go ahead and you know you're giving up a lot of potentially personal information for some people that might not be a big deal for others that might feel invasive and like their like their you know their pants in you just looking at your bare ass and there's nothing you can do about it not a good image I don't know that's one way of putting it point being Firefox has many more privacy protections by default Mozilla the Mozilla developer referenced in the article said Firefox offers enhanced tracking protection and the privacy shouldn't be an option for users to manage with switches and dials so basically not saying like sure you can do stuff to Chrome and get add-ons and various things like that that might give you a little bit more enhanced privacy but it shouldn't be up to you to go in and do that the browser should sort of default to you know a certain level of privacy and security for you Fowler also says he found that there was no way to defang at Chrome but he claims it's not as simple as opening up an incognito tab changing browsers it's as simple as the most effective solution so if you guys didn't notice and we both it's funny because I I came over today to Paul's house and he was like oh setting up the stream is a little bit different because I'm using Firefox now and I was like you switched over to Firefox too because I just I literally just switched over from I've been using Google Chrome forever I literally switched over earlier this week and then I go to Paul's he's like yeah I switch to so it just seems there's a lot of reasons to be more specific io pretty much every system I have has both Firefox and Chrome both in the same same and I typically use them as interchangeable browsers I usually have likes logged in on some stuff in one and locked in on some stuff in another I find that to be convenient right no I have mobile browsers on every system chrome is typically the first one that I load up yeah but I'm gonna be switching that over to Firefox so yeah there we go Firefox choose choose Mozilla team if there any of you guys yes yes to the Firefox all right we're just gonna talk some quick trash trash about EA it was easy to do both talking smack did you hear about this this is from almost a week ago so it's already been sort of chewed on but we you know it's up to us to bring up and continue to point that stuff like this yeah ei had a discussion about loot boxes this was sort of interesting venue for it - because representatives from both EA and epic actually met with the UK the United Kingdom Parliament's digital cultural called digital Culture Media and Sport Committee just wide pretty much that's all like a world that's all the entertainment to the world for everything we know they have been investigating addictive and immersive technologies however hmm and this led to a variety of interesting situations for instance Prince Harry was there Prince Harry no he wasn't there he Prince Harry has criticized for tonight in the pack really yeah Prince Harry has an opinion on fortnight course yeah he said Wow what's new says it shouldn't be allowed no because social media is dangerous and stuff like that because social media gamer article pins Harry is the Duke of Sussex Duke of stuff night commander of the Royal Victorian order personal aide-de-camp of Her Majesty the Queen Elizabeth the second longer reign King of dragons ruler of the handles in the first men the breaker of chains breaker of chains mother of dragons okay what was I talking about I'm sure he gets that all the time all right but apart from Prince arias criticism fortnight Kerry Hopkins who is the VP of legal and government affairs for E a was asked about loot boxes which have been outlawed in some European countries and including Belgium and in another cool country wants to be like built France as they're all competing to have the best fries yeah Belgian fries french fries no it's bad joke let's move on quickly getting nervous I think I should be able to read and say point being chat seems to hate Harry she was asked about loot boxes and whether they're ethical and she said yes of course they're ethical they're ethical and fun and by the way ei doesn't call them loot boxes they're called surprise mechanics that sounds way funnier and less it sounds way more innocuous because loot boxes has gambling keel and a negative connotation surprise mechanics oh that's like a particle surprise what did I get yeah how innocent that's what they call them surprise that's hero what are you doing Wow marketing is here everything here oh yeah coughing up a another dog here step it yeah here all my goodness yo Bobby he's a big boy boy they compared them to like toys that you get a little surprise in like a kinder egg oh it's hatching moles totally the same but yeah I remember gambling for all of my McDonald's toys yeah and the Happy Meal is just rolling the dice a lot of the time what it boils down to for stuff like this is whether or not the the prizes and loot boxes can be traded for monetary value and again a lot of times a lot of the time they can so it varies from game to game I think like if you want to get rid of all the all the fluff and whatever other nonsense stuff that is talked about and them calling it surprise mechanics versus whatever whatever else you're talking about large companies that have a bottom line to try to meet and that often try to make as much money as possible out of whatever their property happens to be EA's property is lots of different video games and the model of having extra stuff that you can buy in game on top of whatever initial upfront cost you pay has proven to be extremely lucrative especially for certain games that have gained a lot of popularity hero hates that type of game EAS has tried to recreate this in many different senses but they've often fallen flat because they they get ahead of themselves before attempting to create an awesome game that lots of people will play and like okay lots of people playing this let's try to like me you know milk more money from it by adding stuff that people can buy they go about it the other way like how can we possibly monetize this game the most ways possible while it's currently in development right then you have games at launch and and people are like this game is just a money suck it's just constantly trying to sell me stuff it's more about making it a business than a game exactly so and loop boxers are among the more egregious offenders in this category so yeah really all people are asking yay it's just like make good game make good fun games and stop seeming constantly like you're just trying to maximize profits right like it's so obvious like there's so many good game developers out there who just like really wanna like use their creativity and whatever to make it an awesome experience for people out there yeah and then you have the you know marketing or or whatever the the business people come in they're like you know we need to monetize this just shitty shinny like everything that's good right some big company has to buy up and then try to milk as much profit as possible as inking I can't out of it that's like invariable or do you notice capable do you know if like the loot boxes in question or like performance upgrades or if they're just cosmetic or if it's a mixture of both are there any like differing schools of thought you know between between what type of loot boxes are available or is just the general consensus is that they're all bad even if it's for cosmetic good this this is this is like a an inquiry in in the UK and like like members of parliament or asking and stuff like that so I don't think they quite drilled down to that level of detail when it comes to like specific different games that use different loot boxes yeah they were referring I believe to FIFA quite a bit I'm not too familiar with how the loot boxes work in their name but I think FIFA is also quite a significant cash cow for them yeah cuz cuz cuz the football football very pop okay some people on chat are saying FIFA luboc Azhar play to win way to win yeah you're pay to win yeah which is terrible like III honestly don't have a problem with well here's the thing it's weird like from a developer's standpoint like I don't have a problem with loot boxes if they're just cosmetic however if they can be or if they are traded and sold for real money then I can see that being a real problem for you know kids who are now gambling to get loot boxes so they can sell them for real cash and buy other things or whatever it's it's like consequential it's like it's not the loot boxes itself that are a problem if it's just cosmetic it's not the loot boxes itself that's the issue but what they can kind of lead to if they're traded and sold for real money then it becomes a serious issue obviously the pay2win loot boxes where it's like this actually helps you gain an advantage in game either competitively or through the campaign or whatever against other players that's there's a huge moral dilemma there that I just definitely don't agree with cosmetic thing is a slippery slope I feel like cosmetics it's like you can phrase it and disguise it in such a way where it seems harmless but if there's this underground market of like trading csgo skins for example that are just purely cosmetic but still have a lot of real money involved that is changing hands between like 12-year olds that's there's there's something really wrong with that too so I feel like I don't know we're kind of is there any regulation like there needs to be some sort of regulation at some point if if this is the way it's gonna be I don't know I just like I think for a lot of online business models and I'm going broader here not just video games and everything but like a lot of music streaming services for example like a lot of these services where you you they they their goal is to sort of rope you into paying a monthly fee mm-hmm or to rope you into paying money over and over again for something like a loop box or something like you know a season pass or something like that like I think a lot of people are I can speak for myself I'm getting sick of a lot of it I'm oh yeah and and for me I like I kind of want to revert back to the old model a lot of certain ways like I'm less interested paying the monthly fee for the online music service where suddenly you know their deal with a certain record label is gonna go go down and right I'm gonna lose access to a third of the library or something like that sure versus that too just like my own personal mp3 library that I'm downloading and saving locally and having saved on my devices similar to like I I kind of want to veer back towards games that just have a simpler model of like year here's our game here's the game pay us $40 for it and play it over 50 48 to 60 dollars depending on you know the what it's worth and now you have the game there's nothing that you never you never have to deal with ads in the game or something in the game making you feel like you're not getting and blow your experience unless you're paying more money right or anything like that just like here's yeah yeah it's a simpler model Hales back to a simpler time yeah NES days but that's that's kind of what I've been feeling recently anyway I totally am right there with you man brief brief aside but let's crazy world we live in let's move on to PCI Express Gen 4 which we talked a little bit about on Kyle's half and we mentioned the only real use for PCI Express Gen 4 right now or in the near future is superfast nvme SSDs so kind of good in the instance that for people who don't really need extremely fast storage you can probably get by with something like a B 450 motherboard don't necessarily need to get onto that PCI Express Gen 4 train right away also very nice for people who were like wow I do video editing or something else that deals with a lot of heavy i/o on a on a drive these are freaking amazing so how much is it going to cost is what I was trying to get to to 49 to 49 one pair mine one terabyte that's not bad actually that is the pricing for Coursera's next-gen PCI Express 4.0 SSDs which are now available on Amazon that's pretty reasonable presale so presale so you know we typically don't recommend that but yeah article from PC gamer here also lists some competing SSD in their pricing like a 970 evil plus one terabyte is 218 dollars WD black SN 750 one terabyte 216 dollars so that's not that much more I mean 250 yeah that's pretty comfortable and considering the significant bump up in performance because there's really only one controller made by Faison mm-hmm it's gonna be available right at lunch there's others that are that are gonna come out but that files on controller is pretty impressive in and of itself yeah all of the drives are gonna have similar performance because all it's really gonna matter is a man that they paired it up with sure and we're looking at four thousand megabytes per second or four gigabytes per second writes five thousand megabytes per second or five gigabytes per second reads converter like 1500 that's like ten times the performance of us of a SATA SSD a SATA read three sixty eight gigabit per second SS do ten times jump that's that's a lot it's not so a lot of people who are currently running SATA raid arrays or even high-end nvme raid arrays can get that equivalent performance with a single drive with these new drives mmm-hmm so I'm happy that there it appears that they're not launching at an insane price yeah it's still expensive don't get me wrong you can get a one terabyte SATA or a lower-end nvme SSD like a six 60p that uses qlc flash or something like that you can get that for around a hundred and ten two hundred and twenty dollars yeah so you're still looking at probably a little bit more than double the price per gigabyte compared to something like that but of course you're getting much much more impressive performance yeah for the people who actually need that kind of throughput it's well worth it yeah it's not it's very reasonable pricing specifically if your interests in the ratings for this Corsair MP six hundred four thousand nine hundred and fifty megabytes per second sequential read the 970 Evo plus tops out at 3500 megabytes per second mm-hm so that's a it's a nice jump thanks notes it's a nice jump SN 750 goes to about three in 470 so yeah and then just imagine like we would like some of the demos that I was seeing at Computex where they're rating you know two or three of these things together four of them together for PC agent for they I can get speeds up to fifteen thousand megabytes a second that's really good sequential reads like I hope I can test that at some point that just sounds insane especially you know if you're editing like 4k or a ke video I'm in the film industry I could see I could see a big shift in the film industry especially because there's this huge emphasis on 8k now on 8k video I stuck to Chris about this I'm sure he has some sunlight to shit on it but that was one of the demos that they showed at the AMD press event just before e3 was a I think it was like a I think it was a raid a raid array that they had with PCIe gen for several nvme drives playing just regular playback at you know 1x speed real-time on an 8k workflow and it was just buttery smooth just playing like a regular video whereas I think on PCIe gen3 the equivalent setup was chugging along pretty pretty consistently it was pretty choppy and stuff so this is this is a big deal this is a really big deal I think it's probably the biggest feature that rise in 3000 brings to the table honestly for content creation its bold bold statement I'll see I'm a bold a bold man alright for those of you who are looking to the next generation and kind of kind of trying to suss out pricing and expectations maybe that gives you a little bit better idea of how much money you need to save to invest and yes a couple people in chat we're asking if raids gonna be a thing yes absolutely it is crafty is apparently in charge crafty whatever raid you want us to promote even if it's please don't let it be porn related because we're already trying to kill the porn BOTS but anything you want man just put in the show dock and we'll get to it and welcome so enjoy the show no cells here but he's he's not moderating he is just chilling he's enjoying the glorious viewing of us and the things we say what's the like being on the other side south he's probably it's not gonna want to moderate any more because he amazed he realizes how awesome they just have an office-based moment all right final news bit story from my half is this EVGA thing this one out in the newsletter a lot of you guys who have purchased EVGA cards in the past but a lot of people who I've talked to have have spoken highly of them for various reasons their customer service is pretty pretty high up there among those reasons and I will absolutely back up anyone who who wants to say that and I would agree yeah however they also have a long history of interesting trading deals for people who have maybe a slightly older card who are looking to potentially upgrade it go through that ends they just sent out a newsletter for an event that is starting tomorrow or an opportunity that's starting tomorrow and I'm not sure this is still part of their step-up program I don't know if it's exactly part of their step-up program that's not in any of the documentation here but for anyone who has a 900 series of 700 series and video graphics card EVGA specifically I guess you'd have to have EVGA you are going to be able to trade it in to get credit towards a 20 Series card okay now there's two two aspects to this I want to point out here first off training in a 900 or 700 series card if it's a reasonable trade-in value and to be clear that is not specified here that's what it says though if it's a reasonable trade-in value no that's what I'm saying oh okay if EVGA is giving a reasonable price for these trade ins icing you know I and if you have a 700 C I just found a use for this card here like this is a kingpin put that right there that's a classified classified classified your hold hold that thank you thank you guys I'll be your Vanna White this is a 770 classified absolutely drool-worthy card in its time oh yeah I would debate the efficacy of getting the classified serious card within 770 there's also a 780 and 780 Ti classified card that I feel like might have been a better investment at the time 770 you know you're going for a more price to performance area anyway my cards are always absolutely over built and good job so if you have one of these cards you know they're not they're not pulling their weight quite quite as much as they used to so taking like a 700 series card trading it in getting maybe a one to two hundred dollar credit for it towards a card that you wanna upgrade to maybe that's a good deal for you not 100 percent of the time though because you have to also consider if I were to just put this card up on Craigslist or Ebay or matter how much can I get for it in cash right that's really what you're weighing in your mind here right the benefit here of going through EVGA is you don't have to worry about putting up a sale meeting some sketchy dude and from Craigslist you know what's like traded crack or something like that for the card instead of money like changes the meeting locations at the last second right and you know it's a reputable source yeah it's a reputable source and everything looking at me and maybe all you really want to do is upgrade to a 20 Series card maybe that's a perfect solution for you they just applied that exact balance to towards new so that's what I was they have not said exactly how much money you're gonna get for your card that you trade in I was trying to find their actual wording here because they do say it specifically oh Jesus here this is all these million doses all they say significant these are the words that they're saying as far as the dollar value that you might get for your trade in a significant discount on a 20 Series card such a subjective words so we've got to wait and you guys you guys follow up tomorrow this launches tomorrow I'm kind of curious how much they're gonna be offering people for their 700 series cards right and hundred series cards and so on and so forth yeah second part of this though which I'm gonna say is a bad idea 0% financing for 12 months now have a payment plan on your G you guys just to be absolutely clear here I am NOT a fiduciary I am NOT a financial adviser he's not your finance guy but my where I'm coming from here don't finance a graphics card they're bigger adult things to worry about you've got the money just spends and you know you've been saving and you've got that cash to spend on it you know dive in here they don't finance it don't don't buy something with such a precipitous fall off in value yeah that I'm a year from now as you're making that payment you're gonna be like man this is a bet it's just I am bring you to the head month after month is gonna seem like a horse idea every month it's gonna seem like a worse idea in goes gonna be more regret that seeps in if you want it now buy it and it's gonna be great but if you can't afford it there's an all-in-one there's a tiny cutout of people and apparently I was reading a few comments in this neighborhood there's a tiny cutout of people and maybe this is more common in the EU or something like that I have no idea but there's a small number of people who are that careful and confident with their money because this is a 0% financing offer sure so if you pay it off within 12 months you're not paying any extra yeah it's not that paying the cost of the card if if you're that kind of person that small percentage of people that can be like yes I have this financial plan and this budget that I save and I'm gonna put that towards a graphics card then yes there may be there's a small number of people who this will work for sure but I'm gonna say most people just just don't spend money that you have not that you're gonna have in the future right that's just my advice I feel like this is this is like setup for kids like kids who maybe have like a $50 allowance every month yeah it's like hey mom and dad I'll give you 50 bucks to mow the lawn every week you know for the next 12 months if you give me this graphics card and like okay in a perfect world that'll probably work out smoothly and there won't be any issues there but I feel like the yeah like most buyers like Paul said you're either gonna be able to pay this and afford it in one lump sum or if you really are struggling that badly where you need to space out your payments on graphics card maybe you should consider using that money on more important things or maybe just consider that you don't need a 20 atti or a 20 80 or whatever like you can there's the you can still game gotta get that rate racing pole there's lots of graphics cards that you can still play video games with gotta get that Kazi you know sweet like one or two hundred dollars trainer like or like you're trading in a 900 series card and you'll get probably still doing fine with that 900 series card for you know for 1080 gaming so that's tracing none of the race yeah so I hope I hope EVGA appreciates that I've promoted their offer here but also that I recommend no peoples through the financing option no one uses hey also just want to point out just FYI that the 770 classify this is badass that this super high-end like high-end for its time graphics card classified premium has no backplate see that was before we started being like where's the backplate image a it's just a little cosmetic detail that here this is a lot about how far we've come yeah I mean you go back to the 700 series timeframe like yeah the back it's it's a backplate has become just a given such a you know yeah actually given like you you don't you don't want a nice graphics card well that if I come back got a back plate these days so how spoiled we are people are saying their GTX 680 s have back please you're right well bully for you back plate just traps in the heat nobody and then we get into a bank do it I don't know why was offensive cat alright guys my half is gonna be slightly short hey today because I want to move on to the after party hey you cuz that's that's where the action actually happens yeah so check out the link in the description if you want to move on to the after party on youtube if you're watching on twitch just don't do anything you can continue to watch Kyle drink whisky and we will answer some of your questions read some donation comments and we'll go over Johnson's I'm gonna play overwatch okay I'm excited about okay guys