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PCIE 4.0 on B450 / X470 (But Not Really), Sony a7R IV, Heartbeat Laser - Awesome Hardware #0194-A

2019-07-16
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like that but I need plenty is these the elder who has married Wow at least twenty twenty of the delicious appear angels alright speaking of delicious check it out this is all going so well it's it really trying to keep up the facade that we have it that we know alright check it out guys Sony has a new camera well I bring this up because I wanted vaguely I don't know I have th 5s right now and I get jealous of the a7 a the mark 3 yeah cuz no they are frame sensors are beautiful when it comes to digital photography and videography there's no more fundamental I think part of the camera than the sensor itself and of course bigger the better the bigger those are the things that can make sensors better than others yep this one for the a7 are alpha 7 our mark for from Sony is a full-frame 61 megapixel sensor that they have in this really relatively small body camera here is the video play play part of it $10,000 yes some specs for you guys burst speed of up to 10 FPS that's for photography 15 stops of dynamic range it features a brand-new full-frame BSI CMOS image sensor the this weight was quote here and I don't know what video idea can you game on a camera what can you gain can you get my camera my camera yes it has AI built into it there you go like it loses AI first search if you have a bunch of pictures you can tell look at look for this face or something and then it will tell you oh like type it in like look for keidel that's its this is all from the article so I'm not exactly how that works I assume it all works perfectly though seamlessly and exactly like they say and of course let's do all advertisements this fancy sensor is an evolution of Sony's built in since none are outside the sensor in and of itself 60 megapixels pixels which is huge huge there's also a bunch of stuff in the article about using it in photos at the crop down mode aps-c mode which is it which is a smaller format for a it's a long line with full frame and it comes to the image sensor size sensor sizes boy being it has something called a multi shot mode sensor shift multi shot mode that can create a 240 megapixel image from 16 separate pixel shifted images containing a swivel of 96 960 3.2 million pixels of data so like it does it say I hash tag AI that's all you know there's a eyes in it and it's doing everything and it's better than your camera hey I get bigger yes AI is a such a buzzword nowadays that is true so there there's some pictures of it has 567 phase detection autofocus points covering 74 percent of the image area that also means that when you use it in FSC mode it covers 100% of the area although again you're copying down your sensor which is why would you do that no those use cases for that sure real-time tracking autofocus real time I autofocus actually this is shown in the video better so me some of the autofocus images I mean they're they're just simulations or whatever but like let's talk about the autofocus points and it does animal autofocus autofocus like if you have a dog or not or if you have a cheetah yeah you know you can use it for that this is that AI recognition so like oh I like this person look at them and then search through all my pictures and this is color and pattern data that is that's kind of like a creeper feature you know there's a like alright find all the pictures of Sally that I took through her window yes he's very sad it saves a bunch of time very Silence of the Lambs okay I gotta focus that's a visa by the way Vizsla is the name of the dog that's the breed of dog yeah is it gorgeous done my sister used to these look very pretty can was Jesse a nice coat it's got this new shoe mount which can has multi functions but it's got this mic that goes on top the mic is digital but then it provides akamai cos analog of first when most fires where it's picks up the audio but then it has a full digital connection to the camera itself so it doesn't seem to require like it battery no that's a soft mount one of the Oh dead cat or a phone no you don't wanna know the shock shot shot Matt writes what it's called yeah yes remembering my words nice so yeah that's kind of fun Oh interesting okay I hate I hate the flip up cameras though because I don't really flip up so that you can do selfie mode when you're recording video like if you're vlogging or something which I've I feel like it's a deal breaker for me for how I shoot my videos I feel like I'd really clip up high enough it's it's great for the aurochs rx100 because it's small enough they small enough it goes over them but the viewfinder blocks the screen so you could really only shoot get like low angles but you can actually turn around 180 if you flipped to the side like the 70d or something like that it's better for selfie selfie doing selfie things it's just it sounds like a really stupid deal-breaker like what it's an amazing camera but I feel like for someone like me that that is very important you know it obviously depends on the user but I can't see what I'm shooting if I'm shooting myself or something behind me it's that's true it's hard to say you could you could mount like in an LCD to it or something but that would be very heavy to carry all that right now one-handed as you selfie video to yourself yeah well that's another power source people's so yeah I mean obviously not for everyone but but it's very mike is the ECM b1m anyway other features just around the mark real quick dual ultra high speed 2 SD card slots enhanced weather sealing and ultra high resolution five point seven six million dot electronic viewfinder USB type-c for tethering fast built-in Wi-Fi with support for wireless tethering five point five stops five axis in body image stabilization as well as they refined button layout for for easier autofocus control and a deeper grip which apparently people have been requesting compared to the other version of ACE them mark three this is coming in September and it's already available for pre-order for $3,500 $3,500 alright you're pre-ordering I don't know should I fear how much better is it gonna be then ugh for or ugh five yeah it's gonna be $3500 I think I got either I don't do fancy candy here my fancy lighting and stuff yeah precise focus and all that kind of stuff know my qualities been garbage lately I love it because who cares it's you it's for the web it doesn't yeah you know and you're just like like I have it I feel like people treat that that like videography it's like like oh if you don't do that and then then then you suck and that's wrong yeah I was I was gonna say more there but I felt I got half way into that sentence it I was like I need to cut this off so I just said it my shirt alright point being cool camera I need to decide whether or not to drop 3500 bucks on a pre-order leaning towards no but I don't know I don't know I have a question how come pre-ordering a camera before reviews are out is something that you're considering whereas pre-ordering say a cpu before user out is clearly shunned upon and just not even an option worth considering I kept my deep core my being there is there a difference I don't I don't want to say that I'm special but I into are special but you are spending a special flower I'm unique no okay I will I will I will put forward that for some people who create coverage of tech content with youtubers like us or otherwise there might be a bit more of an incentive to preorder because whether or not the product sucks or doesn't suck you're gonna be one of the first to get it and you know do a review on it or something like that and there might be added value in that mm-hmm and you can also look at it like as like like I'm making a sacrifice I'm taking one for the team sure you know what if it does suck but I dropped the thirty five hundred bucks right get that right off the bat and then I come out and be like guys this sucks right then you know I'm doing a service to everyone out there to the community yeah and you're trying to very nope you're trying to talk me out of that why why are you such a dick to all the people who are watching this show right now Pat I'm fine okay some apologize so what you're saying is to all the people out there I like very manipulative you make a great politician beard back your head it tells a dick you put the pollen politician so what you're saying is the people out there who are saying like never pre-order anything you're basically telling them that in your own words and I've heard you quote this before is to never speak in absolutes that's true you never speak in absolutes no I always say that I never do okay let's move up all right we got some more tech stuff uh be 450 and X 470 motherboards existing 400 series mother for AMD Rison series processors are still very viable for lots of people because you can find good deals on them and they're perfectly functional if you don't need PCI Express Gen 4 you can drop a rise at 3000 series processor into it and get the vast majority of the benefits that the new processors offer when it comes to IPC improvements in speed and more cores and all that good stuff without having to necessarily upgrade to one of the very much more expensive X 570 motherboards but could you have your cake and eat it too and still get PCI Express Gen 4 on a B 450 and x4 70 motherboard you can actually discuss its multiple times on the show because it's been speculated about and there were early biases that had the option in it and there's a little bit more on this today it's both good news and bad the good news is that yes asus in fact and i'm gonna scroll past this here to this screenshot this was posted originally on the chinese media site and my drivers and this is apparently directly from asus a list of their existing motherboards and the support that they offer for PCI Express Gen 4 are those PlayStation controller symbols I don't know why they went with this strange text triangle circle for what it does support it literally has all the same symbols based completely awkward a bit the point being why China hardware fortunately has taken that on put it on a nice check here that makes a little bit easier to read so the point being this does seem to be a legitimate source that we're not verified or anything so this is still kind of in the realm of you know rumor and stuff but this this all seems pretty legit to me looking at it ASIS apparently went and tested and validated PCI Express 4.0 functionality on there pretty much the entire x4 7 a and B 450 line up and they found that they were able to say that yes PCI Express Gen 4 works on quite a quite a few of them the weird thing is that the higher end motherboards have less support right X more 70s at the top here the only support that you get is going to be in the top PCI Express by 16 slot and then the n dot 2 slot that's wired directly to the CPU not through the chipset right so if you look at all the exports 70s here the best you can get is a buy eight support and that's not even on the high-end ones the crosshair seven here on Wi-Fi were the most expensive expert seventy boards they have zero support and they've got by four they do have support for the m dot two slot uh yeah you know I'm not really sure do you think that's just coming later or that that's never gonna be an option on those boards because it doesn't seem like there's a reason why website alright so to be clear and to jump ahead because I want to I want to look at this list but let's just jump ahead Andy well a lot of them new sites kind of we're discussing this and AMD has come out and said yes this might exist right now for some of these early BIOS versions or early gen for the Gen 4 support but it is not officially supported by AMD the quote from the article is that AMD hasn't completely blocked out the functionality yet but users should expect this option to be disabled when final retail biases are released so we're going to have a situation where yes there are a few existing older BIOS versions that you could load up and get Gen 4 support on a 400 series motherboard but you're not going to see new BIOS versions or official BIOS version supporting that supporting it so if you want support for the latest at Jason cook edge ISA code for your for your 8000 series processor updated support for memory or other stuff and there's been a pretty decent amount of sort of extra sauce added to the platform like if you look at the rise and stuff with early version viruses with later ones so in my mind this is gonna become kind of a niche thing I was trying to figure out what use case this might have and I'm like because because you don't really need gen 4 for like graphics yeah but this was something that unlocked some you know more cores of threads on your CPU or some massive improvements and graphics performance or something like that I can see people going with these older bios's in order to take advantage of that but here I feel like we remain we might have some edge cases like I don't know someone trying to trying to put together a super budgets but really fast storage server or something like that mm-hmm so you get like one of the new 3000 series ap use yeah and that has Gen 4 support right and use it with like a cheap be 450 motherboard yeah and and for the by 16 slight put like a riser card withwith MDOT two drives in it I don't sure like that or like a really high-end like like a budget high-end editing system like if you were let's say in college and you were limited on cash flow but you were trying to do like an 8k independent film for your senior thesis or something like that maybe maybe PCI Gen 4 is something that you need but you don't have the cash flow to spend on like a super high-end build maybe there's a possibility there because that was one of the demos that AMD showed us as to the the benefit of PCI Gen 4 is with an 8k editing workflow I don't know the details of how that was tested or their testing methodology that the interesting to find out but it seems like superfast storage needs are one of the main focuses for PCI gen for right now until until GPUs can actually leverage more bandwidth and and there's a lot fewer people who are looking for that you know what yeah okay it's super slim it's it's still an interesting thing to look at I don't know if anyone's gonna try to grab some of these bugs that's the other thing I don't know which BIOS versions you'd need to enable this or if they're available publicly or anything like that but just to just to run down the list if you want to look at the b4 15 motherboards there are quite a few that have by 16 support in the top PCIe slot and by for support in the m dot 2 slot and the funny thing is a lot of them are further down the product stack like that it's just kind of weird to me it's not what I would expect but yeah I think a lot of this boils down to like trace layouts for the connections between the CPU and the slot itself and how long they are and other than that I don't know it's like it's so good alright just wanted to share that with you guys kind of an unique interesting little inch case for the new horizon 3000 series processors and let's move on we have a mini like like hot heavy hardware here just a couple of product launches that you may or may not be interested in g-scale has enough to their Trident Z Nero neo non 0 0 neo ddr4 memory yes specifically aimed at rise in 3000 and x5 70 series and here's some pictures of I saw these this was the like one of the very few things I was actually interested in at the g.skill booth at Computex this year and they had hardly any information on it other than it's gonna be targeted at rise in 3000 and and do you like the way it looks I was like well it's kinda like the old one you know the existing strategy RGB except it's got sort of like a different design on that the grey area like here yeah it's just a different texture on this spot right here where everything else seems exactly the same except that it says neo at copy text they were fiddling around with different plate colors like they had red and blue and I told them no I just looked at them as I think was way or someone I was like no all right no don't that's your fault don't do it and and so far all the marketing images and photos that have been coming out the renders of these sticks have been color neutral it seems to be the only design solvent that they have at this point so am i doing you're welcome anyway there's some more screenshots here's here's the actual list of kits that they are coming out with and these are higher frequency kits 2666 speed up to 3,600 3,600 is going to be kind of like the recommended go-to sweet spot for rising 3,000 so a lot of people who are putting new builds together that's kind of recommended what you should aim for so good that they have a few options here they have a 1 point 4 volts Casa latency 14 and 14 15 1535 timed get 2 by 8 gig or 4 by 8 gig and then they've got this this one a 1.2 volts KITT that's castling Z 18 so I'm gonna be slightly lower power yeah good you seem to get out of that and then there's a few in between so I have to kind of wait and see what the pricing is on this it's not listed in the article hopefully it is competitive and yeah I guess for anyone the other thing about rising 3000 that supposed to be a lot more widely compatible right which I've found to be true so far in my testing well there and he sticks I throw in there it just like subscribe get some existing memory that's cheaper yeah black brushed aluminum and touted powder coated silver so Franzese ting okay one last bit of tech hardware news 8 o'seas Aegon monitors are have been announced actually available now in order them on Amazon you may be interested in these if you are like a twitch gamer I guess because they have really fast response time 0.5 milliseconds MP RT response time as well as the 240 Hertz refresh rate so yeah for the eSports ears out there it's got this red back which I don't know it doesn't bother me the but the back of monitors don't bother me they there could be like there could be like Bozo the Clown on the back of it and I wouldn't care because I don't really never get seen by you or anyone else in the room Stan looks sort of ok it's it has what how you tilt suggest adjustment but not pivots anyway I like the pivot I need my pivot I need my pivot pal so two models coming out one is twenty four point five inch one is twenty seven inch they're both TN panels 1920 by 1080 resolution with 400 nits of brightness dynamic refresh rate up to a 240 Hertz so that's kind of the other big selling point besides the really fast response time 48 to 240 Hertz freesync range over DisplayPort or HDMI also has a low framerate console compensation display port HDMI and DVI D&D sub connectors and I seen that D so would still be in there built-in quad port USB 3.0 hub 3.5 millimeter audio input and output so you can pass through from your sound card to 3 watt speakers they're probably suck but I'd rather than be there than that red accents oh yeah just heightened tilt from the stand there's something called a quick switch button to rapidly switch from one mode to another it's like a really ultra-low response time no that completely removes any signal processing from the monitor itself ooh do the fastest click to response yeah these I was hoping these would be a little bit more competitively priced but I guess when you're looking at the really high refresh rate it's not that horrible for twenty four point five inch one a g25 1m z two it's three hundred and thirty dollars and the smaller one the I'm sorry the bigger one twenty seven inch is three hundred and eighty dollars three hundred thirty three hundred and eighty and they are not available in Europe man help how good how good of a gamer do you have to be to to buy a TN panel just because it has a faster response time the end panels have come a lot of a long way I think they have their place have they yeah I got I got the seventh one last year and I was very underwhelmed you and it was a mom with a lime TN panel oh maybe I just had a really good IPS panel next to it that was making it look lousy buddy yes I mean and you're also one who has had the visual experience of a lot more high-end monitors than most people you know I know whole spoiled I'm a superspy regard but yeah a jerk but yeah he was very nice the specs that I just thought was interesting the article points out not available in Europe just anyone in Europe just fuck you you can't get these motors I don't know why they did him just Europe that's harsh everywhere but yep sorry European viewers more segments it's gonna burn wait where'd it go one more second I didn't updated I don't know everything horrible okay I'm gonna fix this hey this is much more photogenic enough success to the what okay the picture quality was good oh wait hold on movemove xsplit to this monitor really quick hold on I need I need my and I oh joy where did you go okay cuz do you see how lousy the picture quality looks there it looks like it's all whitewashed yeah so there's your monitor compare what to say that's a TN that's an IPS it looks yeah if it's somebody else in chats it also I would go thank you so I was looking at here and then I looked at it and like unload it looks fine there anywhere it looks fine yeah okay I'm just making sure that adversity decent quality so joy it's a segment about terrible terrible things and typically we offer no solution for them so it's pretty pretty pretty much a downer this what makes the title of this segment so sarcastic yeah exactly absolutely sarcasm a bit of a theme for this one and that is that you are being watched well not well obviously we are we're eating watch you're being listened to Oh even them even you're being wet you guys like everyone watching this right not in a good way you're being listened to perhaps without your consent even when you're naked and that information is being shared with people that you don't know nudes for them listening to the things that you're saying the sounds emanating from the most private areas of your life in the most private parts and those private parts of your body of your privates what are the most private parts of your privates does it be like a nipple oh my god I'm getting curvier - claims just constants are you serious from what ohoo today probably all the same person you know if they come into batch like that it's usually some like one sample that's a DREV Oh which I just I have to go and go there are released but like I have to go and manually I mean what are you paying him for face you stupid just tell fullscreen just say do something like cutting you text for every month because last time I had you and I got pissed off about it but then I ever disputed them all and then they were all released and then I was like okay absolutely as it's been happening again okay that's appropriate that it should pop up in the hojo segment Amazon workers are listening to what you tell Alexa are you Alexei ah I have Alexis somewhere in this house that's actually yeah you have the the the Google one too well I have Google and I also have Alexa I only have Alexa because I bought it for a video because I did a showdown between my own Alexa with my grandpa oh yeah and now and now I actually use it only for our shades we have roller shades that are Amazon Alexa enabled so I can be like Alexa open the shades and so it's kind of a cool smart smartphone feature that's not our smart home feature that's not currently supported by Google just it seems like a super reasonable thing to give up your personal privacy for it definitely it's now now the only like everyone at Amazon knows when I open my shades and they can use that information against me well that may be then but all right so humanity I'm scared so globally this is why I know so many of you are being listened to right he loves the Sun consumer about 78 million Smart speakers last year for us all of them Amazon echo which was originally launched in 2014 BAM there's the Google home of course is Apple's home pod you know I keep getting this stupid commercial when we're watching overwatch League right now that's not every roughly we watching overwatch League house hunters oh I think it's a house hunters one anyway um Google's probably just recommending you it's the property brothers guys in there like they're like smart homes Stubbs changed our lives blah blah I'm like fuck you attached my life where did this all into place white bean just like I bought these smart speakers and they like to ask Google an Alexa things and hear the response and control stuff with their voices and everything makes you feel like in the future yep is it worth it though Alexa voice review the the Alexa voice review process has been described by seven people who worked in the program because there is a human role in training these software algorithms to recognize speech and provide accurate helpful answers to it the article describes a mix of contractors and full-time Amazon employees working in outposts from Boston to Costa Rica India and Romania they typically work nine hours a day each of your purses as many as 1,000 audio clips per shift and they describe it as arranged a lot of it is boring work pulling up clips that say tape that say Taylor Swift for example mm-hmm and then telling that the software that those are they're referring to the musical artist Taylor Swift not like a tailor like I want a really fast it's going to you swiftly I need a suit like pronto right right yeah see could be could be misconstrued and it's a can but these workers also hear other stuff ranging from anything like a woman singing badly off-key in the shower to stuff that's slightly more to skirt disturbing like a child screaming for help and sometimes even even upsetting stuff such as possibly what might have been a sexual assault that was subscribed by a couple of workers in the article whoa so it's hearing things even without people saying hey Alexa well Kyle wait till I get to the southern half of the story today to talk a little bit more about that kind of some more details on that interestingly the article also describes EKKO owners frequently asking the echo itself the paranoid questions such as do you work for the NSA or Alexa is someone else listening to us right now yeah like Alexa would just tell you but I'm paranoid our smart speaker might be listening to us and monitoring the stuff we do how can you be sure let's ask it Alexa blink wonder you're sure it can't lie being controlled by yes the world is spying on you anyway destroy me for their article here on the same topic from ARS tech Ars Technica keep marina alright Technica about Google for those of you who are like well I don't have Alexa I have Google and and or for those of you who are like I don't have a smart speaker in my home but maybe you have an Android phone that does have Google as little assistant enabled sure because this is about workers listening to your ok Google queries mmm I just said that is it pick it up see listen even do this my Google home and his phone just responded with the definition of what a query is wearing okay Google shut the fuck up I'll bet it does it it does listen when you told me of your phones did that at the same time this is kind of creepy it's it's like an interesting social experiment that it's also a little creepy all right so this article specifically talks about I mean a lot of this a lot of the discussion about this that's been going on this week in particular is from a specific leak it's above about a thousand voiced recordings to a media outlet called VRT news which is in Belgium the Belgian Belgians are listening to our flemish region of belgium which means like we were both exactly on the same page like each other saying i know you're going with this [Laughter] i've heard it's beautiful but I just can't have another lose all the time apologies to any of our European viewers much offense has been passed in your direction Mishnah bastards alright so anyway the newzik news organization contacted a couple of workers specifically who worked for google and they were actually able to get more than a thousand google assistant recordings from them so that this isn't just like them talking to them about what they do and hearing them they actually provided them with the Google assistant recordings yeah this is from a Google subcontractor specifically so this the recordings would be sourced from Google home smarts Google home smart speakers Android devices like your phones as well as Chromebooks and they said in the recordings you could clearly hear addresses as well as other sensitive information that made it easy for the VRT news to contact the people involved and confront them with the audio recordings I'm sure isn't creepy at all no some journalists being like hey have a recording you asking what query yes that's kind of interesting Oh Google home is only supposed to record when when users say the keywords right hey gee I feel bad repeating again Yami we've already said I apparently turned someone's TV off I'm sorry you guys okay G or the hey AG we're trying to truncate them and no more false flags ooh but VRT News said that 153 of the 1000 recordings it listened to were conversations that should never have been recorded during which the command was clearly not given that's 15 percent that's a lot that's a fucked up that's not a few rain amounts in cases that 15 percent of the 1000 recordings and seventy eight million people bought smart home speakers yes fifteen percent of 78 million is still a metric fuckton yeah so oh shit Google was given a chance to respond they have a lengthy quote in the article I'm not gonna sit over the whole thing Google's response was more like well one of our language of viewers has violated our data security policies by leaking confidential edge audio data they are more worried about like this this data breach because the people working for them probably as a subcontractor again you know just leaked this this information to through the media Google said as part of our work to develop speech technology for more languages we partner with language experts around the world who understand the nuances and accents of a specific language we apply a wide range of safeguards to protect the user privacy throughout the entire review process both internally and with our affiliates which is sounds like exactly what something Google would say point being like I said you're being listened to whether you want to or not whether you've said the keywords or not have it appear and I want to get so you know those pouches that they've been giving out at couches yeah those pouches that they've been giving out at at concerts right they do a concert they don't want anyone to have their phones to show pictures or do recordings of it so they make you put your phone in packets are these special pouches yeah banana I've only been to one when we saw dave chappelle okay and they had that because it was like it was like his new material right he didn't want anyone recording it get out see yeah you put your phone on this pouch and it like locks yeah and then yeah so you still have your phone but you can't get at it or anything and it blocks the city limit point being I'm like well I can't one of those patches to put my phone in when I just want a little bit of goddamn privacy yeah no shit right okay I'm that's that's fucked up but you know it's tough because I feel like if they remove the human interaction and remove actual humans listening in on these conversations then you need I mean they're doing it for a reason they're doing it to improve the performance of the product so I feel like there's sort of a sweet spot maybe that you you kind of have to find a compromise with what you're comfortable with because if they just removed all human interaction all human listening all together then these products would not work to the degree that they do and you would have and we'd be doing the same fucking show episode 194 whatever complaining about how the the Internet is just shitting on these products for being terrible garbage products and that they're overpriced and no one should buy them because they can't figure out Taylor Swift from fucking soothe me up with a Taylor like there's there's gotta be some sort of I didn't mean to mention that at some point so I forget you bring that bring that up right you're right if if Google or Apple or Amazon wants these devices to work well there has to be some sort of review process I think the question would be stop listening to me Google I think I think I think employees are listening to us right now and the just rated oh my god how good would be mr. Overstreet yes so the question would be like who is it and and like subcontracting out to like third parties I don't know it just seems like if you're talking about you know where it might be sensitive personal information the subcontracting thing puts it at a distance gives you the impression that they're farming this this work out to people who are they're paying less money right and that's fine for certain stuff mm-hmm but you know companies trying to run business and everything but I don't know there's this there's some middle ground there where they can still have a useful product right people could feel a little bit safer but probably not gonna get to that point they're probably just gonna become more and more encroaching on our privacy because people it's so convenient maybe maybe until AI advances enough to where we don't need human interaction anymore yes just figure I'll let you help all right I'm not sorry for oh joy this is the last one they're gonna go through it quickly completely unrelated I don't know why I'm bringing this up in relation to this but try my MIT technology review again sorry I do have more beer we should have Bonnie the plan he came and went so quickly no no it's beautiful though yeah a day at Dale's Pale Ale or an arrogant bastard oh oh let's do an area blitz yeah so yeah the Pentagon has a laser that can identify people from a distance by their heart because it's perfect so yeah exactly so you guys weren't aware like the iris in your eyeball or your fingerprints your cardiac signature your heartbeat okay is unique um people can be immediately identified by their heartbeat it can be used as a way to tell us apart and the target for this article can be done from a distance the US Special Forces has developed for the Pentagon a device called Jetson which sounds very very because I'm like meet George Jetson and everything right that sounds like the Jetsons only yeah yeah the cartoon it's called Jetson it detects a person's unique cardiac signature with an infrared laser and it works at 200 meters or 200 19 yards and free immunes and according to the article longer distances distances could be possible with a better laser lovely why the US Special Forces and the Pentagon don't have the best laser as possible I don't know I guess they might have to go over to darpur or something like that and be like a give us a better lazy guys limit creepy quote from Stuart revelry of the Pentagon's combating terrorism technical support office I don't want to say you could do it from space duck duck with no and act like the coluche I put the Dada Dada but does he's follow that up with because I don't wanna say you can do it from space but longer ranges should be possible very big oh my god that's like they're close I just I just immediately like like I want video of this part of this to this interview because I guarantee the distance there is like I don't want to say you can do it from space please a Morse code I smile blink some Morse code open killing like run fucking now take your family oh my god we're watching you always Oh God Jetson uses a technique known as laser vibrant vibrant vibrator Vibram entry by Brahma tree that's not as exciting laser by Brahma tree I think would be the way to pronounce Sam's kinky and to detect the surface movement caused by the heartbeat and it works through typical clothing like a shirt and jacket will not work through thicker clothing like a winter coat so everyone should dress warm if you don't want to be remotely identified by the Pentagon your Special Forces they actually adapted it from an off-the-shelf device usually used to check vibration from a distance and structures such as wind turbines they attach that to a special gimbal so that an invisible quarter-sized laser spot can be kept on the target geez takes about 30 seconds to get a good return they're reporting over 90 foot 95 percent accuracy and another person in the miracle quoted said they should probably get be able to get up to 90 80% accuracy which is more stable and can reach anyway he says compared to compared with face metrics like identification by like you know video of the face or something like that cardiac biometrics are more stable and can reach more than 98% accuracy geez very very so doesn't mean like World War 3 is gonna be fought from space look there will be satellites that target specific faces and people based on their heartbeats where like the next Saddam Hussein's just walking through the streets he just walked in just like a bullet from space or a laser from space whatever just pinpoint 99.9% accuracy from space you can't retaliate unless you've got your own satellites to destroy that satellite somehow like is that where we're headed are we doing are we talking about space war now yeah this is crazy okay like hi so I I gave up I've given I've given up hope for the future of humanity long ago well of course as has any rational human at this point of course so really the question is when it comes to the technology available to hand to do this type of thing is who owns it and what's urgent of nefarious uses might they put it to Russia and I when it comes to both governments and corporations I have zero trust than any of them to use any of this wisely or responsibly or anything so oh joy that is our segments cool thank you for watching I I think I'd be drink up we have really positive stuff to talk about on Cal staff of the show so if you stuck through my half thank you so much for joining us mr. 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