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RAM Price Drops, China Bans Fortnite, Zen 2 CPU + Navi GPU Rumors - Awesome Hardware #0172-B

2018-12-11
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prices there it is yes Ram prices we've talked a lot about pricing of various computing computer parts in the past couple months because there's been a lot of volatility in the market with GPU prices finally coming down SSD prices finally coming down this article is from trend force I actually sourced this via gamers Nexus because they discussed this earlier in the week but the contract prices of DRAM products have started to slide since the fourth quarter of 2018 that's what we're in right now that started in October and om now having a negative outlook on the market and the price falls are expected to enlarge in the first quarter of 2019 so RAM prices are good and according to this article they're supposed to be better of course we're also in the u.s. at least expecting some tariff situations possibly to engage come January so we're still up in the air about that and how that's going to affect it but whether they counteract or anything like that this at least is good news for anyone who's interested in interested in buying RAM the dram exchange is reporting that the first quarter in 2019 could yield another 10% drop and dust desktop Ram prices so cool and that is due to the fact that the market currently has an oversupply of memory and manufacturers are still continuing to increase output and demand for DRAM which apparently was very high for the past couple years has been sluggish so people don't need as much memory maybe I don't know if demand dropped off because the prices were so high it's hard hard to gauge when it comes to muscle but my neck raises died down a lot so my name craze has died down so at least for like gee DDR memory and that type of thing but anyway there's also another factor here which is the investigation into price fixing in China and that is ongoing so still potentially more to come there but hopefully 2019 outlook for memory prices at least this is a little bit rosier moving on 3dmark we already kind of mentioned that they announced teased this upcoming portroyal benchmark which is going to be added to the 3dmark suite of benchmarks this was actually announced last month that it would announce that it would launch in January the update here is simply that it's gonna launch January 8th so we have a specific date rather than simply a month that's cool that's more specific yeah so this is gonna offer comparisons of real-time rate racing performance for any graphics card that supports Microsoft DirectX ray-tracing so as of now that includes arc GX 20 70s 20 80s and 20 ATT is soon to be r-tx 2016 yes potentially as well I mean it was that wait was that included pay attention to that part let me see what the 20/60 say it would support ray tracing hardware ray tracing oh it didn't say that so I shouldn't say that nevermind you heard it here no you didn't hear it you didn't hear it nothing nothing the demo picture the demo video here which of attraction that does look really cool that's right mooks is kind about did you see how cool it looks lots of shiny reflective objects and and all that look at all the Rays I mean look at all the Rays being traced just right now there's at least 10 degrees in there the demo video here is 2560 by 1440 just a just bit of extra info and then after January 8th if you buy the 3d mark Advanced Edition which costs $30 us you will get portroyal included if you already own 3d mark like me and me and Kyle you can buy it for a mere $2.99 why so I'm glad they're not charging a massive I'm gonna come a upgrade for you also wonder how much Galax paid for that brand integration oh Galax always they always I know they do but I wonder how much let that runs for with what if I wanted bit wait grab how much it would cost yeah I don't know yeah we have to get in touch with 3d mark and see what their what their prey get one for awesome hardware right there so I mean I'm just happy that it lasts there will truly be a reason to invest in like an RT X 28 ETI because I mean obviously we've had this poor attempts of ray tracing and games like Battlefield 5 and empty promises from shadow of the Tomb Raider but now the final intended purpose which is to run benchmarks against various graphics cards in a you know on Rails demo that requires no human interaction and that's really what it's what we're bounce with what it's all about when it comes to high-end graphics cards that's a we love about benchmarking most it's not having to benchmark I'm I'm semi erect right now just thinking of it tables lifted Oh also also sub note if you if you subscribe to the 3d mark professional Edition which costs fourteen hundred and one thousand four hundred and ninety five dollars that's the professional Edition which fortunately Kyle and I are not professionals so we don't need that addition we're okay with the $30 version but yes you you will also get this if you're paying 3dmark $1500 for their software moving on them the feds feds the feds this is a little bit a little bit update on net neutrality you haven't brought up net neutrality in a bit net neutrality is currently not being enforced by the FCC due to the actions of one ajit pi as well as others involved in there but there is an investigating that's sort of spooling up the US Justice Department is investigating whether crimes were committed when potentially millions of people's identities were posted to the FCC's website without their permission because the FCC when they were when they did what is called a notice of proposed rulemaking in order to rollback their decision they made in 2015 to enforce net neutrality by classifying Internet service providers as title two service providers under the Telecommunications Act of is it that name any better point being when they did this they had to open up commentary from the public people United States citizens were supposed to go and say like yes I think that neutrality is good or because of this reason or no net neutrality sucks or whatever between what actually happened was there was a bunch of people whose identities were stolen and/or their identities were used to post fake comments the comments and in general were sort of all messed up anyway because like if you listen to what a Jeep I said he's like well I'm only gonna listen to comments that provide like legal ground like the legal grounds for this like I don't I don't care what people I don't care what people care about this I care about like someone coming at me with something legally speaking but anyway so the point is the FBI has issued subpoenas in order to get more information from the FCC the FCC has previously also been subpoenaed by our state this is the feds the US Justice Department federal federal law apparently the scope of the subpoenas is similar but this comment scheme or the fake comments took place over the course of the months beginning in April 2017 after the Trump administration's FCC chair Ajit PI moved to overturn Obama era rules and forcing net neutrality so sorry just just to clarify I'm a little cat these were the comments that they posted fraudulently I guess were they all comments against net neutrality this is this is why this information is being requested and now being forced to be subpoenaed gotcha because the FCC has been very very hesitant or not helpful or basically told people to go you know f off yeah when they're asked for this information they have not been providing it voluntarily okay so people had to go through other means in order to force them to do that right more than 20 million comments were filed leading up to that decision in 2017 and the New York Attorney General's Office estimates up to nine point five million so nearly half of them were filed in people's names without their consent Jesus there's lots of people who like looks because it's and it was a public system so that's that's why there's a there's a privacy issue here if some shady organization or whoever whatever whatever shady people were posting these comments fraudulently in the name of other people we're also posting on the FCC's reporting tool which anyone could go in and look at publicly right so people who weren't even weren't even probably aware of this situation we're having their name and information posted which is which is impetus for this going on right now pie stuck oh and and and then there's a follow up so I mean that's obviously a crappy situation but I guess good that it's being investigated more and then I follow up here from Eric from ARS technica a GTI has buried a two-year-old speedtest data in the appendix of a seven hundred and sixty-two page report this is the communications marketplace report that the FCC works on which they stopped publishing as of December 1st 2016 they basically didn't publish it for a couple years they finally have but they did it in a way by taking the 2017 and 2018 reports and smashing them together and then taking the actual information about the this is this is monitoring broadband internet service providers for their advertised speeds so if you're a if you're somebody in the United States who pays a broadband internet service provider for and they say you know you're gonna get 10 Meg's down and five up or whatever they're testing this is this is them testing to make sure that you're getting what you pay for right which seems reasonable to me they stopped publishing this at all back in and at the end of 2016 finally they have published the reports for both 2017 and 2018 there is the issue that the 2017 report the actual that if you actually read it is very clearly was written in 2017 and there's no explanation why the information wasn't released and then there's the fact that the actual broadband measurement reports are buried on page 349 in appendix F 1 of the 2018 report I've had the 2017 report and appendix F 2 page 463 of the 2018 report the reports themselves charts at least can be seen in the article on ARS technica and this green line here is indicates 100% of the promised performance and then all dogs barking so hundred percent is here and then what the actual provided services see is below that so if I had AT&T DSL service right you might be a little upset if you had their IP APB B service hey it might be kind of happy that the verizon list here is actually for two separate services they offer so there was one that underperformed and there was one that over performed that's why those overlap and there's some others here that actually seems like performed well so that's why it's kind of weird like it seems like this what's Hughes Hughes hooked me up with that Hughes service he's apparently is awesome I'd love to be he just customer for sign me up so yeah anyway if you guys are interested in these reports the charts are again listed in the video description or the articles linked in the description you can check out the tricks um selves to fair enough alright let's move up China no China okay back in August they announced that there is a new body and in there a state administration of the State Administration of press and publications which is taken over responsibility for approving games video games in specific so there's good professors well they've just recently state media has reported first the first twenty titles assessed by this agency Wow and nine of them why they say are they they're bad Wow bad and they cannot so that's half fifty first only half of games getting yeah through the gate nine have been refused permission to go on sale eleven had it recommended changes and one of them was Mario Party now this general article is from BBC which talks about some of these things although it doesn't get into the specifics about games there's also a reddit page that has a little bit more go away reddit it has a little bit more investigation here in some posts now this is a reddit posts and they're posting a link to this image which isn't an untranslated source so this is not basically this here is not verified so great assault for this information here but this is the translated information about the games themselves so for instance arena valor by ten cents League of Legends so for for the for some of them they have corrective action listed needs to be edited in some way they need to change in league of legends they have overly revealing female characters and rewards given based on rank and oh and an inharmonious chat room everyone needs to you know the melody in the harem they need to get back on top of that so corrective actions these games can change themselves or makes them edits in order to be made acceptable in China pub G however due to blood and gore is prohibited the bloody same with fortnight's fortnight blood and gore Volger cunt I've never seen any blood and gory notice like a cartoon it's like rated E that has been prohibited maybe the same with h1z1 alliance of valiant arms ring of Elysium talat in the house for tonight vulgar at all yeah so I I don't know I'm confused by the white everyone everyone here should wish that we had you know benevolence you know in part of ours of our governments that would come and tell us what games are okay and not okay to play I never moved to join pletely band the ones that are not okay just for this reason anyway just just an interesting bit of what's going on across the Pacific I suppose let's move on though please and talk about something more positive Kyle and I did an extra life charity events on Saturday we were playing video games for 12 hours straight you're damn right I got really tired by the end news staring but we had a great time we raised over $20,000 for the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles and we promised at the end of that that we would come back because most of the donations were going through the extra life donation portal here and this is our awesome hardware team and the total donation amount it's actually got up a little bit we've had a couple more hundred more Dell dollar nice couple hundred board thanks guys dollars in donations come through so thinking L so much again Children's Hospital of Los Angeles is where these donations were going and this isn't all because we also had people because we were live streaming to twitch as well as YouTube and we had a lot of YouTube super chats come in as well so I had the opportunity to go and add mine up and I can I'm gonna be dropping another one thousand one hundred and seventy three dollars and six cents on top of this I'm out right here yeah you know my super chant did you have yours too yes my super chat total was very close to yours thirteen hundred and forty three dollars so adding both of those figures up to our twenty thousand that's that's about twenty three thousand dollars ears 1343 yeah thirteen forty three plus one one seven three for me plus the twenty thousand the name of this segment is called yes eighty we're using the calculator tool here from Windows 10 here it is twenty three thousand one hundred ninety six dollars it's not bad at all I mean we we were dangerously close to 25k here I think overall so we just wanted to report that to you guys and to say thank you to any of you guys who were able to join us during that livestream and especially to those of you were able to donate you guys are awesome and we're we have three computer systems that we're giving away donations were not required for that they were merely suggested and those three giveaways are open through the end of this week so you guys can still go and enter those word if you want the links are still in the streams from YouTube you have the description the descriptions of those so feel free to do that alright I don't need to do this I'm gonna do it anyway what sponsor spot hey technically I've already done on my tab partners I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it anyway needy free so she was getting bonus Kyle did his on his hat because he forgot what I did I made a point though where just make it up anyway Toshiba sponsored awesome hardware in the 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Shima just all in chat all right there it is I fix it there you guys go time for ask to the audience ask the audience for a while I know this is fun getting some feedback what are we asking them to date if we have three questions we're gonna ask you guys about we're gonna will pitch the first one or two and we have some straw polls for you guys to vote on and Kyle and I will will gauge what we think your response will be and then we'll find out what it is cool that's pretty yes so the first story we're going to talk about here is some new cameras some new phones and phone cameras coming out your phone that have cameras built into them of course as as naturally way the phones work today's follow the highway honor of you 20 and the Samsung a 8s and they have this new this new fancy new design what is being dubbed the hole punch camera so here we can see it the hideous notch is it introduced by many phone camera phone makers who notch at the top for a camera and a speaker and whatever else yep nope this new thing and this is from Samsung is this is a hole punch so just a little video screen just a little picture right there right so that's so much better than ah chair this is so there's there's the hole punch right yep up in the corner right I was looking at this and thinking to myself I am not sure what to think we should ask the audience so you guys can vote on this right here hole punch cameras are they acceptable versus the notch let us know what you think in chat I'm gonna phone app Asus and chat right now I think I can do that of course I can yes there we go so guys motive mode if you want this is a dumb question it's not a dumb question easy answer right here well we're trying to we got to start with these simpler ones and then we build up okay to the fancier ones where I'm going to and in ask the audience fashion we're gonna try to guess what percentage or whatever of the audience guessed what oh service here Thanks thank you sell sells also posting much obliged cell sorry I'll be quiet and clipping who are you just saying we're supposed to guess what the audience might might think right we're supposed to guess beated the audiences yes yes the audience in this room but before any of that let's ask the second question as well so people should weigh in on both no can give a little bit more time all right so this was a story we brought up on Kyle's half of the show which is Corsair making fake memory fake dims actually just dummy dims basically if you have a slot of four dimm slots or eight game slots or whatever you have with your system configuration and you're only populating half of those slots with fancy RGB light up memory and like you don't want to spend the money or you don't need the extra sticks for the other slots but you really want that Universal look with all of them populated and lit up you could get these fake dims 40 bucks for a pair of them they plug in and connect so you can get the lighting there's just no actually actual memory there are those fake gold contacts then well they would still need the contacts because there is still data transferred through there to control the LEDs for powering yeah so there's something going on there I'm actually I've actually kind of curious how that how that all works for them but yeah so second question we're asking the audience today this is if you're interested you guys want do you guys want these dims do you want the art that RGB goodness such a nice mix it up and do you appreciate this as a product that's available now that you could buy and use or do you think it's dumb and stupid or other some other variant of that but in the meantime while you guys vote on that one and these are the important questions that need to be answered folks yeah it's very important you're doing market research right now yes I did already talked about this on my half you are correct but now we're out now we're getting feedback we value your opinion yeah we're adding information right information from you guys right so what do you think Cal hole punch cameras I'm gonna answer this honestly yes they are way less noticeable we have to say how much the audience so what give it a give a percentage and also it always depends on what you've written how you've warded the other oh yeah very tricky very tricky I'm gonna say 7d 70% yes way less noticeable yeah okay I think they're with me on this one I'm gonna play the odds and say 69% Wow bold daring do I know just had to go yeah you had to go prices where I could go thank you notes I could go with 69% possibility of being right alright you go with it I'm just it is it is the best number of strategy 0 to 100 so I can't fault you there alright let's see what the audience thinks of this one oh damn you are quite close you chose right to go low and it's starting to dip though I almost said 65 I was so close to saying students at 65 and that whatever one was 64 yeah you still would have won you dick but I mean you're pretty close to yeah you gotta get you gotta give I give you credit your answer is only based on my answer for that that's true I'll answer first in the next round alright before we do the next round we have one third question to ask the audience since I have to take a drink right oh yeah definitely drink so recently the past week week-and-a-half there have been a bunch of AMD Zen - and Navi room Zen - CPU and Navi GPU rumors going around you you're up on this stuff Cal right yes yeah we've talked about this briefly last week this actually I was all sourced from a photo by Outdoor TV and there's you know it is rife with information there's tons of info there when it comes to what was leaked but of course it's all leaked information sure not confirmed by AMD and DS comment on this is that they do not comment on rumors and comment is no comment yeah something like that so yeah you've got Navi based graphics cards the RX 38 e RX 37 t & RX 36 t supposes graphics cards coming out the 38 II would be 15% faster than Vega 64 still with 150 watt TDP so it would compete with an Rx 2070 but it would only cost 250 or TX 2070 r-tx see they're doing the whole thing where it's confusing a shit again yeah well I mean this this seems very much like it goes along with what AMD has been doing with their win video what aim no AMD I'm doing with their naming convention which is to leapfrog the company they're competing with oh yes right like X 399 yes when int X 2 X 2 99 shorts and I have RX and they are there to be fair they were already using rx but that's very similar to our TX sure and RT X 30 80 so now if Nvidia really wants to make an RT X 30 80 it would have to be almost I'd have to have almost the identical name which is which I really hope that's not the case so just the T is the only differentiating using and so many part in the name of many different ways there's also a bunch of rise in 3000 CPU stuff 6 cores 12 threads rise in threes 8 core 16 thread rise in 5s and 12 core 24 thread rise in sevens including 6 core 32 thread rise in nines previously haven't existed with again some very attractive pricing if you know it's true if true but theoretically this stuff is launching at CES with a couple of these ap use like higher-end ap use launching what looks like a copy text and q3 nice as well as a rising 9 launching in may perhaps anyway so all this stuff is discussed in this tech spot article which is this a Steve article that's him wrote this article and they go over some of their reasons why they think this information might potentially not be on the up-and-up sure including some just some ridiculous performance gains at the same TDP right you know you're talking about a 95 or 95 105 watt TDP for an eight-core jumping up to 12 core increasing the frequency from four point six to five gigahertz mm-hmm and still like not increased linkage it's then you're it's all stuff in there so sure that's insane that's our third question to ask you guys are they true what do you guys think are these drawer nuts your person to find out what you guys feel about it no your answer the last question first but yeah before before we get to that or before we see what you guys think about this one we will of course go back and see your responses okie-dokie to answer to thank you again so for posting links and chatting so weird a question to go there it is all right of course I respect dims I'll go first this time okay I'm gonna say I'm gonna say 29% of people are interested in this 29:29 know I could just say 30 he could I could but maybe that's what I wanted used and maybe that's what you wanted me to say and also maybe that's a cop-out and I'm not a cheap ass like you so I will go with the braver bolder decision and I will say 31 31 percent no I'll say 38% 38% just to just to entertain you a bit I'm scared a little scared all right so I said 29 cos at 38 my ruse succeeded okay what do you guys say so he says yes 31 person so my god I need speed going with my gut I really need to just trust my gut instinct so I'm gonna I'm gonna do a like a bad thing here strategically I'm gonna explain my strategy here I since there were three answers it was gonna be split more right bad some people expect the interest to be low already good point so I was trying to beat you into doing higher than me it was that time I was gonna be lower I took a chance like I said it was bold yeah I mean but if you had done what I wanted you to do you would have one kid instead you did something else and lost that's true I'm gonna play it safe next time because now I have to take another drink but I'm gonna be up there if you go get more beer I could you could also try my compressor on up more if you can - those people are losing their minds and it's it's Mack sorry I don't think I don't think it can be that's assuming also that these are plugged in the right way there's two channels and Kyle is always on channel one before and I'm just assuming that but honestly I should I should go check that on the receiver the numbers not showing up you don't see power so nevermind we're gonna see what the answer to this question is recent zem to an avi GP rumors Cal ooh are they true yes or no maybe I'm gonna say I'll go first again here cuz it's and since I tried to deceive you on the last one you do that I'm gonna say 30 37 % that's very that's a very predictable but 37% yes 30% of people your was 37% of people think that it's a yes here do I go high or low I feel like I'm on The Price is Right chant that's sometimes trying to make it challenging for you Oh xxx compressors too high oh my god I was even loud like.oh too high yeah you said 37 that's the 37 36 cows gone 30 seconds on low I'm going look he's going low everyone goes what else oh you're right you were race but that third answer was just too good yeah I knew people were going to go with that one that's lots of people hedging their bets thing that makes sense all right well I had to lose one yep thank you for the additional beer oh I forgot to open yours that's okay dude can you love that you freakin panes and that wraps it up for asks the audience heyo and that also wraps it up for my half of the show double hail which if it wasn't obvious I was trying to proceed through with some amount of haste but you guys good you did guys thank you so much for watching this half we are still gonna move on to the after party so if you're watching live don't worry that's linked in the video description as well as hopefully at some points links links are that hopefully also timestamps yes timestamps are always much appreciated thank you for that thanks guys we're gonna cut things off we'll be right back BRB goodbye
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