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what's up guys it's just a quick video here to tell you all that Rison sucks AMD sucks Scott Watson is a jerk no one should buy any AMD products ever Vegas probably going to suck okay hello yeah no the the agreement was three wheelbarrows full cash three I'm so that's not that's not going to cut it okay look I don't play hardball here but I just wanna let you know that you're leaving me little choice but to basically use my online influence and reach which is substantial by the way it's not insignificant to pretty much destroy your brand and your reputation I understand also I will have you on the phone I was wondering about those opt-in samples you hello hello well I suppose that sort of changes the tone of today's video why don't we go ahead and just do March builds since that's what I usually do at the beginning of every month I list out a couple builds part lists so if you're building a system yourself or you just need some help getting the list together want to stepping off point you can use these to go by and if you're looking for an actual assembly of a system don't worry I do those as well and I have quite a few of those just recently so check that my builds playlists for that also I ask you guys a question every month so that I can base next month builds on your feedback so here is the question for next month what bills do you want to see in April 1080i Vega based or maybe rising three Rison five all of those I have no idea when they might actually launch but if they're out by then then maybe we can do builds sort of based around those also you guys voted for this month and of course I didn't give you too many options besides Rison and of course Rison one oh my god oh my god Rhys and so let's let's just dive right into it start off with my over-the-top build is based on an 1800 X and I have paired it in theory with a GTX 1080 TI which was just announced by Nvidia now these aren't available for sale yet we can't even tell you when they're available for sale but we can tell you that they'll be available soon and we do know that they cost seven seven hundred dollars and that is supposed to be 35% faster than a GTX 1080 so all that said let's let's pair it up with the risin seven 1800 X and I'm sure there's going to be actual benchmarks that come out one the the 1080 TI is available with gaming performance and whatnot but I'm really not diving into rising gaming performance in this video because the Lord knows that's been a bit of a quagmire and I hope I have been faring my assessment of it so far we're all hoping that it improves I guess I'll leave it that anyway though 1800 X is about 500 bucks I paired it with the liquid cooler since you can get improved clock speeds by just a tad at least by going with the liquid cooler h 100 is listed as an incompatibility item on this list but that is because the h1 hundred I has am four brackets available you got a contact corsair directly for them or if you do like I did and use with it use it with the Asus crosshair 6 hero motherboard and I did that in my most recent rise in video which was overclocking you can kind of see a little bit of that here you do need an AM three back plates if you're going to use the m3 mount with h100 IV to those so bear that in mind you would need to scrounge up the name through backplate or probably do the smart thing and just hit up Corsair directly if you want to use their liquid cooler but I feel like I'm getting ahead of myself first off there's the 1800 X available for $498 and 19 super business by super Buy bead super B's has it for $1 off screaming deal then of course the H 100 IV - I like this cooler I think it looks good I like this leaving on the tubing and whatnot also a good performer and the crosshair 6 hero which is on the higher end when it comes to the am 4 boards that are currently available this one cost about 250 to 260 dollars although it is a very solid boards got your RGB lighting effects and everything looks really cool I really like what they've done like with the accents on the vrm cooling and and that kind of thing it's a nice board and it's pretty stable for me in my overclocking test plenty of SATA connectivity it's even got that USB 3.1 header that Asus has sort of developed and since there is no USB 3.1 header officially right now although you do need a special case I think in win has cases right now and there might be one or two other places has them as well for memory we have a 32 gig kits one of a chief skill Ripjaws 5 here like look at this memory pretty sweet it's a very small picture of it but you get the general idea and what ddr4 3,200 I was having a bility I was getting pretty decent stability with 90s 29:33 speed memory and that was working with the ddr4 3000 kit that I had in my testing I think 3200 you should be just fine getting stable of course we're waiting for some luck efi updates for the motherboards and that kind of thing which are promising to add increased stability as well as the platform itself develops and you know gets better updates and all that good stuff anyway I wanted a big and pretty fast SSD so what they go CZ try on 960 this is a 960 gigabyte version i basically was comparing several of the 1 terabyte SSDs that are out there they're all around the $250 price right now you can also get like a sand disc that's right in there or the a data SP 550 all right right around the same price and roughly equivalent performance and then of course we got the 1080 TI which again just announced by Nvidia still doesn't have reviews out on it yet the I believe the unboxing embargo for this listed this morning so we had some unboxing videos that went out and again 700 bucks but we can with a reasonable degree of certainty assume this will be the fastest GPU when it launches assuming of course that AMD doesn't come out with something Vega based like right in here of an interim and just given Nvidia sucker punch shape that's probably not gonna happen finally for our case we have the NZXT s340 a case I have worked with before very nice case looks cool solid design with the red and black version because you know it's an AMD build and some red accents in there and I take it will match up also only about 65 to 70 dollars depending where you get it which i think is a very good price finally we need a power supply went with the coarser our MX 750 watch my requirements for this or basically I wanted a little bit higher than average wattage 700 to 800 was what I was looking at 80 plus gold fully modular and I wanted cables that didn't look like at and this particular power supply fits the bill slightly more expensive comes in a little bit over a hundred dollars one hundred two hundred and ten bucks but very good power supply from Corsair and I think anyone who gets it will be happy with it probably be able to use it's quite some time to they saw the power supply will ask you for many many builds all right that's all for the first builds that's one to two hundred dollars so it's pretty expensive in fact getting up into the range where you might say there's some actually more legitimate direct Intel competition but I think actually that is the strong points of the rise and CPUs that have launched so far otherwise in seven ones is they really are like right up there in performance when it comes to workstation tasks and and you know they're not too far behind in gaming either especially when you compare it to like Broadwell East stuff from Intel so you're going to get an 8 core 16 thread processor in this build for significantly less than what you would pay for if you were going for like a 69 hundred K of course now the flipside and I think one of the best pieces of competition for the rise in r7 1800 X is the rise in r7 1700 and if you checked out my overclocking video you might understand why the overclocking performance of the 1700 is right in line with what you would get with a 1700 X or 1800 X it's based on the same die and it's basically got the same specs all around except for the clock speed TDP as well but if you're overclocking then you're probably smashing through the TDP recommendation numbers for that anyway so all that said I have actually put together two rise in 1700 builds here it's what I'm going to go over first is $1400 and this should be the build that I actually build this month and if you guys don't believe me because I haven't built February's build yet trust me the February build was still coming I actually have all the parts for it now and I'll be doing that soon but here's a $1400 rise in 1700 build with the gtx 1070 and i did make some accommodations for some cooler master parts in here because i will be using their case and i should also be using that cooler in their power supply but to follow up if you're not as concerned about seaming everything and you are ok with swapping out a couple parts here and maybe having slightly less performance and slightly less SSD space then you can do this build which is $1,200 and really not too far off but let's go over the parts that I chose first off which is the Rison 7 1700 of course 330 dollars I think this is going to be the current champ when it comes to the rise in series because it's a hundred and seventy dollars cheaper than the 1800 X and again you can get roughly equivalent performance if you're willing to put a decent cooler on it and do some overclocking I have not done air-cool testing with 1700 yet so it still remains to be seen just how how far you can overclock it and how stable you can get that with air cooling but I think the master air pro here from Coolermaster would be able to do a fine job for that this is sort of their updated new series since master Eyre series he's just launched I think within the past month or two they've got like a black plate over the top to make them look a bit cleaner than like the hyper 212 Evo the hyper 212 we kind of fell out of love with just simply because there were some other coolers from my cryo rig and enter max that we felt like where they just looked a little bit more appealing and if you have a big side panel one day you want to make sure sure things look pretty nice we can get this one for 40 bucks from new eggs very good price and there's a $10 million rebate to get that even cheaper and this also comes an for compatible out-of-the-box so that was also a significant impact from the motherboard I have the xb-70 Taichi and if you're wondering why maybe you look over my left shoulder and you'll know why I'm building with this board because I have it also it's got a nice feature set as far as what it comes with out of the box from asrock and see if we can check the new egg product page on this it is al it's a 200 bucks so it's less than the crosshair six does have a $15.00 mail and rebate at least if you buy it from newing right now so you get for 185 it's out of stock but they should be getting more in tomorrow cool looking board and again a nice set of features really good power delivery on this at least from what I can tell again I haven't tested this independently but I mean look at all those faces how could you go wrong with all those prior faces also it's got a couple MDOT two slots it's got support for USB 3.1 and asrock has been sending even though I haven't used this board yet they've been sending me BIOS updates so they have been diligently working on getting their BIOS their EFI firmware up-to-date and everything Sonya pairing with that I went to Corsair Vengeance lpx this is the same ddr4 3000 kit that I had been using in my testing simply because it's one of the few kits that have been validated and I was hitting 29:33 very stable e with all of my chips with this kit 16 gigs also via to a cake sticks gives you two extra slots on the motherboard to upgrade in the future if you want more memory I like a 480 gig 500 gig ish SSD for your main operating system drive they do cost as the prices crept up it's gone up by a good 10 or 20 bucks since the beginning of the year but still four hundred and thirty dollars or so you have enough space for your operating system and a decent number of games and apps and I'm assuming of course that you're going be also dropping in like an old mechanical drive company on two terabyte drive or something on top of that so you have a bit of extra storage for the graphics card actually did one of those parametric filters that PC part picker has and it actually changed from when I set this these builds up this morning to right now the lowest price 1080 right now is the gtx 1070 the gigabyte many one that's $379 and jet there was a ZOTAC one earlier today for 350 bucks but that deal must have ended or something like that but anyway so 380 bucks for a gtx 1070 to pair with that and that's about the price range you should be looking at the match cage pro 5 is the case i have chosen this is a very good case i have worked with this case i'm not going to be building in this case i'm going to be building with the pro 6 because i have that right now but that's a very new case so I just put the pro 5 on there the pro 6 actually might cost 10 or 20 bucks more and maybe 40 bucks I don't know the price directly right now but you know go with this one instead it's got the same basic frame it doesn't have the pop-out panels like the like the pro 6s but a really really solid construction that's what I always liked about the cooler master cases they're built like freaking tanks and then we got a cooler match power supply on there 260 650 watt 80 plus gold fully modular ATX power supply about a hundred bucks for this so again not too much cheaper than like the 750 watt Corsair units that I used I wasn't able to find super good pricing for the cooler master power supplies there are some other options from some other vendors that are out there right now but this one does have good cabling it's all black and it's fully modular and I assume there might be a picture of the cables in here somewhere look at that fan 2 fans nice ohm look there's a shot at the inside not much pictures of the cables but it's all black trust me so there's my horizon 7 1700 build and I ready I wanted to originally say compare this to the $1200 build that I did towards the end of last year which is a $1200 build with a 7600 K or 6600 K and a gtx 1070 here you're going to get way way more raw cpu compute performance with a 1700 and you can get the same build I wanted to say you can get the same build for also $1200 but where did where did my entire build let's go there it is for $1200 this actually turned out to be $1400 it was actually 1,400 even until I lost my deal on the on the graphics card and that went up by 30 bucks but you guys get the point but I also wanted to ask myself could I do this build essentially for $1200 so that's my sort of third bonus build that I'm doing today which is all roughly the same parts but just a couple things swapped out so here it is my $1200 version of the March 2017 Verizon 1700 builds with the gtx 1070 again the compatibility issues that are listing here just because these coolers have not been updated with a m4 compatibility i use the hyper 212 evo on this one which is a $30 process or $30 cooler can get it even cheaper than that sometimes but coolermaster will provide you an updated a m4 bracket if you need it for for this if you don't get the I'm sure they're going to update the actual packaging that has a in for support and whatnot but they have confirmed it is supported but you do have to contact cooler master to get the bracket okay so there's cooler hyper typical vivo you guys you guys familiar with that one for the motherboard itself with the asrock X 370 killer SLI so it's still actually 70 so you still have SLI support slightly lower end board from asrock so the feature sets not quite going to be all there it is still got an decent color scheme though black and whites big okay across the mill because because you know that's useful and 135 dollars at least after rebate right now so I'm you're shaving a good 60 ish dollars off the price compared to the the Taichi so saving about ten to twenty dollars with the cooler saving another fifty five ish dollars with the motherboard the memory kit is the same the SSD is not the same it's a 240 AF SSD Syrian I can have as much space here but that cuts off another $50 on the price same gtx 1070 via the filter and then with a slightly cooler case that's only about 15 or 20 bucks cheaper but the corsair 200 are solid case good performer not very blingy but gets the job done and then for a power supply the see sonic s 12 to 6 20 watt again not blingy not good cables cables but if you don't have a side panel window it really doesn't matter and it's a see sonic 80 plus bronze again it'll get the job done and it's only about $49 right so there you go guys those are my two plus I guess three builds that I have done for horizon I totally recommend that 17-hundred build over the 1800 x build it's just a lot more practical and I think the 1700 is really the way to go right now 1700 overclock it get your get all your cores up to three point seven to three point eight which I think just about anybody can do with a really basic bit of overclocking and you'll have a really powerful system not just for gaming but also for gaming and streaming or for doing workstation tasks or doing video editing or doing video and coding really good for all those things so there you have it guys let me know we think these builds down in the comment section below I always welcome you guys to post your own builds down there to PC part picker is a great site for doing that so check it out use their filters they're up there doing tons of updates right now to get all the am4 stuff listed on the sites and proper compatibility and all that stuff and links to all the stuffs also is down in the video description so thanks for watching and we'll see you next time