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stur refreshing sound as it gets a good sound it's a good sound it's probably one of my favorite sounds yep hello everyone and welcome to awesome hardware this is a show about technology we stream every Tuesday evening at 5:30 5:30 p.m. Pacific Time twitch.tv slash awesome hardware we also stream to our YouTube channels this is episode number 193 and we already stream the first half of it - Kyle's channel that's linked in the description if you missed it if you're watching us live thank you very much for joining us Jeff Cheers and we do drink alcohol in this show feel free to join us please this is not motor oil please drink responsibly right now we're enjoying a peanut butter milk stuff from belching beaver the belching beaver brewery so good which is quite tasty a word of warning we do occasionally use adult language on the show so watch out for that and we have a bit of tech news to talk about to start off and then we're gonna play some games and answer some questions and we'll give 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choosing it cheers Cheers thanks for joining us yeah okay delicious what do we got quite delicious what's up what's on the agenda huh a bit more tech news if we seem a little fatigued it's because this past week was just a blinding mess of running benchmarks over and over and over again there were three yeah three absolutely major huge launches last week starting with in videos super cards the Archie X 2060 super in 2070 super also the promise of the 2080 super which I thought they were gonna launch today wait no yeah I thought they were gonna lunch today but then nothing came of that so I don't really I don't deal is they hold now well see what happens they're working on the super super but yeah so and then on Sunday the double launch of the AMD Radeon 3000 series of processors based on Zen to those those are real nice and also Navi based graphics cards that AMD has also been working on for some time all based on Sanatana meter manufacturing process and I thought I'd follow up with like well what's next now right because every time something new launches immediately like well what's next yes because there's always stuff playing in the pipeline and this story actually kind of slipped through this is actually almost two weeks old now back from June 26 but there was some news here about the RX 5800 and rx 5900 Navi GPUs these have been documented in trademark filings nice often some of the earliest news you hear about new stuff is because they have to file for names for the products and so on and so forth official business stuff so people watch those types of filings and can gather information from that so the 50 750 700 XT or what our already launched those were aimed at the 1440p experience according to AMD these potential further more powerful variants of Navi have potentially not been confirmed by Sapphire who has registered a bunch of product names with the EEC or the European Economic Community because they got to do that to get ready this that you're looking here at 50 looking at here's 50 750 700 X T again but what they did talk about was everything from 5500 series all the way up to a 50 900 series so potential lower end cards and potential higher end cards 5500 series I would imagine anything below 5700 would probably be aimed at 1080 gaming more entry level given that the 5700 is starting at 350 dollars you know you probably be looking at mid $200 range cards replacing the rx 500 series yes and then they could do with the Refresh for that because you know rx 500 series GCN was around for a long time as AMD's the Radeon group's primary graphics architecture but it has now been supplanted followed up by our DNA so people are gonna be more interested in it interested in investing in those cards so cool hopefully this is all true and legit the Radeon rx 5950 XT was the highest end card referred to which might get some people kind of excited because especially with the last-minute price drops that AMD did with the 50 750 700 XT there they're pretty competitive like it's a very interesting race they're in the mid range and you know I like it when there's not an easy answer for somebody who's like hey I've got 400 bucks to spend on a graphics card what should I get you can make a pretty strong argument for the 5700 XT you can make a pretty strong argument for you know well the 2060 super is also available available at that price although performance might not be quite as much yeah but you do get the ray-tracing features anyway I think the 2070 super needs to come down in price a little bit I think if they cut that down to like 450 it would be really really really good shielding if that would place it kind of where I feel like in the same ballpark range when it comes to price and value as like the 970 and the 1070 which were really commonly recommended go to cards yeah so Nvidia do that it's fine just just lower the price a little bit nobody nobody's gonna think less of you they're just gonna be alright cool they're being competitive and they're offering us a better value for a money they'll think more um yeah they won't thank you so I hope your feet yeah what they're gonna do is that all that part of there it's like you get three free games and a foot massage sign up for that Jensen personally comes to your doorstep you got a massage here's how to make the sale he washes them with his leather jacket alright also this would lend a little bit more credence to the rumor that's been going around for a while that there is a other version of Navi because the fifty seven hundred and fifty seven hundred xtr based on Navi 10 there is a rumored Navi 20 bigger chip version that that hopefully we will see come to market as well and you could see you know 850 850 900 series cards being based on something like that rumors and recently have suggested that that might arrive in the early half of 2020 so we do still have a bit of time but you know for now you got to deal with the 5700 cards or it could all be poppycock because as as we discussed on Cal's half of the show these are rumors it's leaked information it's stuff the people dug out of wherever they can find it and it doesn't always pan out that way but it seems reasonably legit to me yeah the the Intel stuff that we talked about on cows half seemed like a bit more of a stretch this seems pretty in line with what was what we'd expect from for me but of course we have no idea when this stuff might actually come out early 2020 seems reasonable what I'm worried about is that by the time that comes out Nvidia will have launched a new generation of GPUs that just kind of validates these ones well it is an interesting question to see what Nvidia is planning to do when it comes to to shrinking down the process no because they're still working on 14 nanometer stuff mm-hmm and you know they've got to do their get they're gonna need to to to move down they're gonna need to move down to something like seven nanometer or something like that and I feel like there's already been a bit of rumors and stuff about what they're working on there but I don't have that in my brain right now so I'm gonna stop talking about it let's let's move on all right x5 7008 X 570 no not X 570 risin nine 3900 X not on X 570 right cuz all the 3900 X reviews mostly we're on X 570 because those were the board's that went out and everything but the 3000 series of CPUs are backwards compatible with a 400 series and 300 series motherboards so tech power up went ahead and dropped a 3900 X 12 core $500 processor into a $70 motherboard nice yeah the mother that was gonna happen yeah they quick like right after launch someone would do that and Asus prime be 350 plus to be specific 70 bucks this is a very bare minimum motherboard it is targeted at gaming I cafes and light offices usage so not even the type of motherboard they're like hey if you're a budget gamer they're like no no if you're a commodity system need in need of systems and you want to build them for as little as possible and have them get the job done that's what this board is made for this will boot but we promise it'll boot yeah it won't promise much else but it does have a BIOS version 5007 which was released on July 1st which does list support for the 12 core so they dropped it in quick aside here and it blew up there are a lot of be 350 and be 450 and motherboards that do have BIOS updates for rise in 3000 series you should still go and check the CPU compatibility support list because not all of them are supporting in particular the higher core count versions certain motherboards were designed in specifics like I think max out at like 65 watt TDP chips so some of those might not have support for the higher core count ones and some just inexplicably don't even though it seems like they did but you know hopefully wherever there are gaps in support that will be updated at least where possible when it comes to the board itself some boards just physically can't do it so there we go I think that's also saying that Greg from science studio did this test yes I haven't watched that video yet but I saw his post the that too and I also did not watch his specific video but yeah I assume he got the same results which is that they're the same I said it worked yeah it worked yeah ok good because his thumbnail for his video that I did see seemed to indicate that he might have had some issues but I'm not sure that was just a thumbnail or what roit yeah he did alright so cool and that's a that's to be expected so if the board supports the processor and you can drop it in with no claims to overclocking support it should function and if you're running it at stock that should be just fine um there are a few caveats for example they ran their tests both was an air cooler and a water cooler and they did here's their specific setup this articles linked in the description by the way if you guys want to check it out further prime B through 50 plus they had a Noctua Nhu 12s air cooler as well as a 240 millimeter ASA Tech all in one note here looking at the results the blue here is air cooler the green is water cooling by and large they're pretty much on par with each other excuse me there are a few specific CPU intensive tests blender and corona here in particular key shot photogrammetry where the number dips for the water cooling setup and that is specifically because power delivery on cheaper motherboards is cheaper if you have fewer power phases or if you have power phases that aren't rated for as much power delivery the higher amperage then those will be stressed out more they will get hotter so if you have a water cooler on there it's not moving any air over the VRMs whereas if you have an air cooler it is so in that situation the air cooler is actually a better choice interests so something something to keep in mind there if you do have you know if you built the system a couple years ago or if you have a lower end 400 or 300 series motherboard and you're considering a CPU upgrade it's the totally can that's a really really cool thing about this platform it's something that I have tried to mention many times because it's something I think Intel should be given a lot of shit for yeah like well I've seen people comment like Intel what a charged you and made you buy new CPUs for each of these two the last two rounds of upgrade yeah as compared to AMD and what they did with 300 400 and 500 series right so yeah that's cool was it I'm sorry what did it say what type of air cooler it was was it a top down and to not to uh n hu 12s switch okay so that wasn't even that's just like a standard like almost like a hyper 212 designs like a standing cool tower it's yeah it's not even Tower cool I was thinking maybe it was a downward firing one that would get a bit more airflow yes of course it's firing ones I'm sure it's still gonna circulate some air of course yeah it's just about air circulation around the socket yeah even if it's not pushing it directly over the the v-rooms or anything was it an open air testbed or was it in a case me all these questions Kyle well I don't know our supply's software they're not listing a case in their test setup so okay I'm guessing so so maybe the the liquid cooler would have been fine had it actually been in the case with good airflow potentially if if just the tower standard one tower cooler like that was enough to to cool down the VRM significantly um then maybe having some good case airflow it would be enough to potentially yes that's something that that could be tested further they did do some the use of their flirt camera to take some pictures of the VRMs and different setups it got really hot I think there's 130 almost 140 see each in specific situations they were they were messing around trying different voltages and stuff like that is this correct usage of thermal it depends on the surface reflectivity of the of what you're pointing it at which I think for this oh yeah way does it so the reflectivity like in terms of like like like a mirror a mirror would be the worst possible thing to point to point okay okay yeah yeah yeah like so like anything like something that's chrome and pointing it right in the middle of a supercard yeah that'd be horrible you'd be measuring the you'd be measuring the temperature of the walls reflected and so yeah shiny shiny nice to be super scientific all right so yeah good I mean that that's good it's good information for anyone who might potentially want to upgrade it's good that you know that these boards are accepting these new processors and working just fine yeah and achieving the same benchmark results as somebody who's getting you know 200 300 bucks plus who's spending 200 300 bucks plus 9 X 570 motherboard yeah so they but speaking of X 570 motherboards look at it look at all these you know 70 motherboards oh my god an antique has an article where they have some level of detail on literally over 35 motherboards look at this damn with this scroll down here they just all they didn't test them all they did they analyzed them also as far as features and all that kind of thing so if you're considering X 570 you should consider the pros and cons I think they're pretty straightforward the pros for X 570 are this right here PCI Express Gen 4 and maybe you need that maybe you really do some heavy read and write intensive stuff on external nvme yes they're not extra nvme SSDs you need really fast storage there are people who are excited who are very excited about this and they should be and they should go for that and that's a reason to invest in x5 70 you also get a few more USB 3 ports that their point one that's a lot more sr USB 3.1 gen2 I'm starting to see 3.2 listings and it's so confusing oh god they're like we have 3.2 gen 1.2 Jim one that's 3.0 yeah step 3 put freaking out I was looking at an asus list thing it was like 3.2 Gen 1 I was like that looks like the old front panel it is the old front panel they just changed the freaking name just I hated the negatives 2 X 570 our price the boards are more expensive the second is that chipset TDP 11 watts significantly higher than X 470 and X 370 or the B chips as well which means almost all the boards have active cooling on them to some extent it is a cool i/o chip you do get lots of Io from it and everything so I mean that's kind of nice but active cooling on chipsets has been the bane of many many motherboards in the past if you go back to X 58 I had a x58 motherboard with the active cooling fan on it it's just they're so tiny I talked to some motherboard vendors who like no we put good ones on there like they're nicer or whatever they're still they they make more they make noise and they're just notorious for for failing early on or starting to rattle or wine or whatever whatever so that that's kind of disappointing yeah there you gotta get over that if you want the PCI Express Gen 4 though it's a full list isn't this an tech article if you want to see it they have listed prices where available and again like I said 35 motherboards from vendors including whoo gigabyte Asus Rock MSI biostar and colorful so you might notice for example here's all the asrock boards and there are some like entry-level X 570 boards they have a gaming for 455 bucks they've got a X 570 Pro 4 for $170 yeah that's not bad and then you get these really expensive ones that are 300 350 or whatever asus rog crossed her 8th formula $700 everyone's like god like is like 700 - yeah the god like so they all right so all the month at all the the big three have $700 motherboards the x5 70 horas extreme really is a $700 board that's crazy Wow and the Expo Center you got like also 700 bucks but crazy when it scales all the way from like the mid hundreds like you know 150 170 dollars and all these vendors have do have an entry-level board kind of curious to like compare those and say alright what are the cheapo X 570 boards yeah what do you what are you giving up what's a cheap X 570 board compared to a high-end p450 board or even be 350 yeah or even or even X 370 or X 470 now like that's one thing I've seen some people say is like Oh check out the sex for 70 boards because all those boards are gonna get phased out yeah so you might see some good deals on them as as certain retailers start to try to clear out inventory and stuff yeah and that might be worth looking into because they're gonna have better power delivery and they might have higher-end features like you know surface mounted mounted power and reset buttons yeah external clear CMOS stuff and fancier RGB LEDs yep all that goodness alright but there you go just rehashing a little bit of that stuff the only thing we didn't really talk about was the that a G so that BIOS update thing oh right which I only really kind of caught earlier today that it was even a thing but I wanted to address it briefly in case anyone was wondering who if you watched my rise in 3000 series video and you're wondering I did mention it I don't think I'm not sure if I put it in the hardware setup but I actually used the more recent version I was using the x5 70 or s master board $700 board Wow and I did update to the f-5e BIOS because I ran actually most of my tests within about sorry the master is not seven it's the extreme that's it's 700 oh the extreme masters still like 305 masters okay but yeah I don't know the extreme is everybody perfectly reasonable to do motherboards that I put on the board and shit poor people motherboard garbage anyway I used that 5e uh-huh which did have the new the newer edge ISA microcode update and everything so so you don't to read run benchmarks I don't have to rig your height benchmarks thank god I think I used MSI released a new bios after I started testing my Rison 3000 chips but I'm not gonna retest anything okay I will be doing more testing with resin 3000 what am I gonna rerun all the same benchmarks already did actually Steve did that didn't you say and he did a video on it and stuff and found that there was probably like there's like a super marginal difference yeah and a 1% yeah it's very very minute if that you know all right god bless him excuse me all right one more star to talk about here before we play some games dokie YouTube is making it easier for creators hey that's us hey to Z lies to me with copyright claims I care about this topic copyright claims really suck oh thank god on YouTube tell me more coincidence or no VidCon starts tomorrow you go to VidCon cow no okay this dick con starts tomorrow this announcement was made today so I guess they wanted to some goodwill for people who've it probably not really I don't know maybe it is related who knows Hey but being if you guys aren't aware YouTube has a system called Content ID it goes through and it basically looks at every video that's uploaded to YouTube and it sees whether any of the content in that video matches previously uploaded content per content that's owned by somebody else you can access Content ID as a as a what's what's the word I'm looking for you can access Content ID as a creator to claim other people who might have your contents at a certain point I don't exactly know what that is it's a certain number of subscribers or something like that so I for example could go and use Content ID to flag any one who had uploaded a video that contains parts of my video or the whole video or something yeah I've messed with it here and there but what's really frustrating is when you're a content creator and suddenly you get a bunch of emails that say hey this video was flagged this video was flagged this video is flagged because you as a user of Content ID can flag a bunch of videos the people who get their videos flags have to go in and dispute each one individually yep and it's an annoying process and everything haribol beyond that there are the automated claims that go through the system and there are also manual claims and manual claims have often been used in lots of scenarios that I've seen maliciously by certain companies trying to prevent content from from staying on the website or going and just trying to steal the revenue because once you claim somebody's video you can you can have the video no longer viewable or you can just be like all that videos ad revenue now goes to me rather than than the person who uploaded it so on to this and the changes that they are making new for content creators manual Content ID claims will now have to specify exactly what part of a video is infringing so you can't just go and be like hey a drive claimed your video for this song now they have to they have to tell you exactly the the part of the video where they're saying you you supposedly used their owned content so it just makes it more yes I spend there's more effort on the person claiming it yes invest and that that in and of itself is important because it's gonna stop people from just masse claiming a bunch of videos because they're gonna have to go in and specify the timestamps the quote specifically from the YouTube creator vlog a creator blog is starting today we were we were require copyright owners to provide timestamps to indicate exactly where their content appears in videos they manually and we're improving our video editing tools in creator studio to make it easier for creators to remove the content associated with those claims so if you have a video claims it's gonna as a crew as somebody who posted the video and you get a thing this is hey you used somebody else's content you're gonna very easily be able to go in see we're in the video they claimed it and then they're gonna direct you to tools built in tools to easily mute the section of the video or cut it out or replace the audio so that's that's good also manual claims prior to now required manual clearance of the claim even if the content reserved was removed but if you go and use the tool and just like lift it out then the claim will now be lifted automatically hmm so that's so that's nice good good for creators and bad for people who have been attempting to use this system to falsely claim stuff unfortunately this new process is not retroactive so it doesn't apply to existing manual claims but yeah if if you want proof that this is a good thing YouTube tweeted about it this is actually how I spotted it earlier today and they also followed up and said failing to provide accurate data is considered a violation of our manual claiming guidelines so claimants who repeatedly do this will have their access to manual claiming revoked now you talk about punishing people who misuse the system good which I hope they follow up on and the twitter response at least from what I saw and what Wes Finland who wrote this article on PC gamer saw has been positive if you ever look at any response to YouTube creators tweet it seems rare that they get a lot of positivity there's some some usually in there but for it to be majority positive it's definitely different is there any mention of them changing how they handle people who strike channels and abuse the the fair use system for any channels who get wrongfully striked that was not specifically mentioned as far as I can tell but I don't know I mean it does seem like they're Wheldon they're trying to make some effort um from are on our side versus content strikers or whatever I hope that Zen works - yeah me too it's being strikes it's very debilitating it is sucks I'm scary let me imagine me - okay that's it for the regular news I'm gonna eat a cookie mm-hmm it seems slightly darkest cuz there's malted milk in there it's a melted milk mm-hmm that multiplex oh it's very good I'm gonna have connect pad for cookie no why not yeah a whole one I already had - oh really stop peeing on my cookies well you were talking a lot eating it's hot again we're comin later there we go okay now now what there's the time in the show it wouldn't often we would switch over to an after-party mm-hmm we're just gonna keep it goin on my on this for now because it's fun yeah we're gonna answer some questions you guys have been asking yeah and we might play a game in here Oh who's a very good cookies oh shit Eric guess you can have one but what happened my wife reminded me that I'm not supposed to be eating sugar right now oh really she's doing like a no sugar challenge for the month and I told her I'd join her but we've been really bad about it because we're order something at like a restaurant not knowing that it has something with sugar in it there's added sugar like we can still eat fruit and shit but yeah we've been failing like left and right so I think she's just calling me out in chat because she's jealous that I'm eating cookies sounds like it was her idea to not eat sugar I don't see why you should have to follow that do ya you know because she's doing it with her friends and stuff for friends like hey it's old it's nutty sugar I was like yeah it sounds cool but now I'm just like these cookies are amazing and my other half let's no let's eat this other half of the cookie no I already touched it yes and who knows where my hands have been they're disgusting it'd be rude of me to not finish it love you honey all right so where we doing now um questions Hamish alright of safe and my wife doesn't love me anymore Wow no I'm surprised you love me in the first place so this isn't really hard to accept we are we had 144 yes we are 144 Hertz here of course we are no I don't wanna do that pardon 44 Hertz master race hey your guys an octopus that's the new skin that's available for what's his dude Joe neck it's a Joe Nelson yeah Joe neck I thought his name was something different Joe neck is a player in the overwatch League oh this is his special skin yeah he I forget what he did that made him is really good so Jim yeah every I don't know the details around it just like some really good player inspired skin yeah I figure why is an octopus maybe that's like a sketch that is described each Apple no hmm all right well while you're loading that up let's go over some questions here well he won MVP Thank You Johnny people to a knack won MVP of like the game MVP it over watch the I think oh you should watch over look over websley is very fun I guess I should bless questions at Quinn's star beat $5 and I still have a second Chennai 3 switching to rise in second-gen enjoy some money well thank you rising 2nd gen is still a very strong value proposition yes it is and actually there's a lot of sales going on present 2-step point rappers n plus I'm sure there's a lot of sales that's up yeah um they've all to six feet $10 appreciate all the work you and Paul been doing here to keep us all updated keep up the great work guys thanks biggle or it's by gal totally different if it's by gal that could mean something yeah anyway thank you very much for the donation NB 67 $30 37 cents cheers Cal thank you Mike you are the real MVP is always appreciated Kenneth coral $15 what do you think the chances are that they come out with a new naming convention besides core i three five seven nine when they start moving closer to 7 nanometre assuming they do I don't think they have any reason to change that I think the core i-x SKUs make sense people are familiar with it it's you know got a good reputation for the most part it's the numbers following that they have to be careful about in framedrops the hell you dropping dropping like it's hot yeah that's weird the hell I don't know it's lagging Bros that's what this with chat saying maybe it's the high refresh rate you think we are at 160 FPS or something oh geez huh well that shouldn't matter on the stream side if you're streaming out at 1080 60 what's your bitrate I don't know default fault oh god I need to help my team okay well hopefully the audio is not lacking as long as you can hear us it's fine just close your eyes otherwise you'll get motion sick Kenneth poor old $15 what do you think the chances are that they come out oh I already read that one yeah I think they're gonna change the naming scheme it's probably gonna be the same Alex W Mickelson mitchellson 100 Norwegian kroner all up your G n mod matte review bought something else instead not that crap haha good when will you do a review of the GN tools oh well as soon as Steve stems me the son for free of course stop shooting me sure give tools now that's fun yeah he did a tool kit or something like that that's cool does Jones $20 been a minute guys how's your summer going so far I got a 3900 X and an X 570 Taichi on the way we'll be pairing it with 36 hundred megahertz ram into the new corsair and p600 nvme gen4 SSDs sounds like a pretty badass system des Jones it does I I would totally rock that as my main I agree hell yeah dual into the median for SSDs not bad all right Stephen gar and mom garam up 5-3 bitch pounds longtime fan forgiveth first live just wanted to say thanks to Lyle after using BBC into this video now I now see the BBC British broadcast company differently well I use BBC Lyle he referred to the the dark rock Pro for as the as a BBC oh yeah big black cooler ah and I guess that brilliant sort of resounded with some people you know he has a certain way of speaking yeah yeah I mean but BBC is you know there's a number of acronyms it's used in a number of ways Hey British broadcast company is one gotta appreciate the BBC there's there's some others anyway NB 67 $13 37 cents hey mo all cheers Paul by the mighty coverage of the product launches from both even cut thank you thank you very much a I hope we both spent lots of time on it if you learn things you learn things hope you didn't really chop you guys I'm sorry but that just tell me the message as soon as Paul finished in this round maybe we can look into why flagon yeah if there's any more time when I beta my teammates Carly Adam $5 really be reviewing the remainder of pin my PC entries on this stream there is no remainder and pick my PC entries I we looked at all the ones that I selected from Twitter there no there's no way to get chunk grant blows up FD Killam oh yeah there was no way that I could have gone over all 285 submissions that we had for putting my PC today so instead we did five that's a reasonable amount you could try it next week if we do pin my PC you next week yeah give me key gamer or Jimmy key gimmi gimmi gimmi gimmi gimmi gimmi gimmi a gamer 699 Canadiens I hear you're looking back there hero oh he's just having a good time he's a big liquor help best case for to RTX kingpins with cooler for cpu question mark make a build video question mark for kingpin sli question mark or advice suggestion question mark how's your not dead um best case for two king RTX kingpins probably twenty eighth nineteen pins I would say one with very high airflow get a large case with good air a lot of fans and get a liquid area cooler probably two forty at least because the CPU you're probably pairing with those are TX Kings is probably a high-end CPU that gets warmer and you're gonna be overclocking it and all that so I know it's Kyle I probably won't make a build video for that because I don't have to RTX 2080 a king pins the unite stuff OOP old-timer Dave $10 what up old-timer Dave I like your name have you heard anything about YouTube trying to get rid of the channels with less than 100 subs no I haven't heard anything about and I think but that sounds messed up sometimes it takes you know it can take people like a year to get a hundred subs so yeah I don't know why and it's a lot of work and just cuz you know thousands of thought subs doesn't mean they shouldn't get any said why would you not be able to have a channel if you had 98 subs I don't get it that's bullshit if it's true Jay Bell my dollars 300x can't find anyone talking about it any info will reviews becoming y'all rock I don't currently have a thirteen hundred X I feel like 3700 X is kind of like the 3800 GPU encoding or something oh oh GPUs actually really high usage right now huh interesting um yeah I might do a video with the 3,800 acts I can't say it to be like a full-blown interview I'm sure there are gonna be more reviews coming out on that soon I have the thirty six hundred and thirty six hundred X ordered but stupid new egg shifting them from oh no shipping them from New Jersey oh yeah sure okay are we're lining up a arrayed yep we've got a few more questions still ok we need to do Johnston's - all right so just update you guys lost lost that game of overwatch not that you guys were seeing it very well there's really choppy I feel like it's not this hasn't been that chopping the game lost you before the game was you maybe I think exploit is actually set up to use the Nvidia encoder as what must have been happening awesome because the CPU usage was only it likes forty percent there should be plenty of head room ooh it's a 69 50 X just 10 what GPU 16 m50x GPU Oh GPUs 20 80 TI oh no 1080 TI still still plenty yeah okay anyway I kind of want to redo this system anyway alright are we screaming - both yeah we should be live - both okay sorry so sorry about that guys we actually tripped a breaker we did I have a much better electrical system externally here in my house but internally the wiring is still the same as it was back in the day so we have too much stuff going on on one breaker which included the AC out here in the garage as well as this whole rig and setup fortunately the system didn't shut down because it's on a UPS thank God yeah but for some reason like the fridge and then also the the home theater area out there is also on the same breaker so yes is for everything yep more UPS if I had a UPS actually if I had the router and the Gateway yeah plugged into the universal stream would have the stream wouldn't when died so there's something yeah um I guess I'm just gonna continue on with some of the questions here we've got wit witness what is K 20 Canadian I have a crosshair 6 motherboard so excited to be able to drop in a 3900 X you can stream edit and play games at awesome in variable very reasonable frame rates very good time for PCs good luck you good work you guys love both your content thank you thank you it's a good plan yeah there's a good time for PCs so choice the Golden Age is back yeah hey Zeus MIT's $10 with summer being here to have any tips on preventing a PC from becoming a furnace in a room no he's not being an issue should I allow for more airflow intake or exhaust more from the PC so it's just you have to keep in mind that you know your PC puts out of a fixed amount of heat generally generally speaking unless you're changing around the clock speed settings right yeah I mean like if you're gaming for X amount of time it's gonna put out extra amount of heat and that heat just feels hotter in the summer cuz ambient temperatures are higher and everything so um yes you can always point a fan at your computer if you want to push more air over it I mean I think I think one of the best things to consider is just a way to exhaust the hot air like so if you have you can point a fan to like push hot air out a window or something like that like yeah it's really what you kind of want to do ya think of think of especially like in you know the summer and stuff if you don't have central a/c or something like that then you kind of got to treat your room like like it's a computer case like had a good airflow circulation in your room and that'll really help the temperatures in your PC so yeah like Paul said if you can exhaust some air out of your window maybe have cooler source of air in taking you know from somewhere else you know there's like DIY ACS that you can make out of styrofoam boxes like styrofoam coolers where you put dry ice in and we're just a bunch of ice water and you have like a fan blowing yeah there's there's a bunch of a ideas out there degrees Sean Darwin and Chet said to get a dryer exhaust and hook it up to the exhaust of your computer it's like like one of those extended extendo tubes oh yeah so that it directs the hot air from the computer directly out a window or something like that that could work to say you can you can mess around with you know don't be afraid to DIY stuff or get out your cardboard and cut it into pieces and you tape it together or whatever in question whatever keeps you comfortable mm-hmm Kenny smallman 50 sick SEK Swedish I don't know are five 1600 and the GTX 980 time for an upgrade 1080p 144 Hertz monitor Swedish Krona Swedish Krona there's yeah I guess it's time for an upgrade from when I hit 144 Hertz then I think you need yeah you need to upgrade both 1600 for the 980 yeah it's not gonna get you very close to that so some more modern components faster CPU would definitely do you some decent favors there Panthro blasts off five rupees it's just an AR I don't know hey Cal do you think an air-cooled 3900 X would work in the fan tech shift or shift X maybe a 3,700 X um I think you could get away with a 3900 X uh well let's see it depends I forget what the actual South African Rand Wow Rand that's a new one just are you just got some Rand yeah South African Rand noises could do currency to hold the rainbow strong currents lovely brand Durand Durand it's my favorite bands Rand was a little random alright let's see uh let's let's what you racist comment early about the rand people they always walk single file to hide their number the shift and the shift X and you definitely have a bit more cooling in the shift X because it's longer there's a bit more breathing room available you can fit an AI o inside of the ship deck so why not go that round I would fit a squeeze of 120 millimeter liquid rat in there or a liquid a IO in there if you were trying to cool at 12 core 24 thread part in this mini ITX case an air cooler wouldn't get you there that far because I know the baha'i clearance in the ship decks is very slim and it probably wouldn't be enough to really cool the 3900 x effectively the 3700 X you might have better luck with but you're not gonna be able to like really push it very far you know if you wanted to overclock or anything like that so I would suggest going a IO if you can if you can't then obviously like I would definitely try a 3700 X first and see how that works out with like a low-profile air cooler but I kind of feel like anything less robust than the included Wraith the Wraith prism RGB cooler you might you might have a hard time cooling that ship a lot of course Frank 20 euro for beer sugar and diapers and less lag I don't know if 20 euro can fix all those things it can can buy all those things but we're gonna try you know every dollar the lags already been fixed by stopping playing video games true so and we already have sugar in the cookies we already have beer so you just you can put that 20 bucks towards diapers good we need him we need lots of day I'm not potty trained yet Jay Bell $5 since everything died while answering my question I guess I should send more money Oh No thank you thank you Frank by the way our DJ wait what happened oh sorry Jay oh yeah I guess I got cut off in the middle of his uh middle of his well I guess we kind of already answered it there wasn't really much more to say the 30 had 3800 x it's not a chip that either of us have at the moment I don't have any immediate plans to do a full review of one but I guarantee there's probably other reviewers out there who were gonna do extensive testing still 8-quart right it's too late course so I mean if you look at the 3,700 X it's got a lower TDP and doesn't boost quite as high at the box but they're very comparable chips so look to the 3700 extra views and the 3800 X isn't gonna be that far off it might might run a little hotter might boost a little further and get a few extra frames out of the box but it's not gonna be that much different same same corn thread counts and all that honestly I think the 3700 X is the better bargain without even testing the 3100 X if the last two generation is a verizon is is anything to follow just like how the 1700 was a better value than the 1800 x and the 2700 in a lot of cases was a better buy than the 2700 X we're gonna see a similar trend there I think which is exactly why I think AMD sent a lot of the reviewers of 3700 X instead of a 3800 X because when you talk about price to performance but that seems to be the stronger buy unless you're in an overclocking unless you're on overclocking then things are a little different because you want higher out-of-the-box speeds next up we have five dollars from just a Chinese character I'm sorry I don't know what that translates to it's Chinese characters I'm sure your name is beautiful in English the Giga Byte I put it into Google and it comes up as Nico Yazawa but I don't know if that's an actual interesting thank you also because of some animation oh maybe maybe it's an anime character that they just dumped in there had a no fake name the gigabyte X 570 or extreme has a passively cool chipset which made my ex-wife 70 choice for me yes 700 bucks though it is very expensive I mean that's it that's quite a premium for a passively cooled chipset if that's the only thing you're buying it for yeah it does have a bunch of features on it and stuff too which if you're gonna use a good majority of them then it might be worth it to some people someone's gonna buy it but you know I think 99.9% of people don't need a $700 motherboard even with all those features and before you pull the trigger on that if you haven't already maybe do some other wait wait for some more tests to come out on X 570 power consumption to find out how vital is that the active cooling on that anyway you know or like just how does had a hack your X 570 bored and like to do your own cooling solution yeah which are like are like some of the some of the water block makers gonna start making chipset water blocks for 4 X 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