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SCARIEST PC EVER! Kaby Lake-X + VEGA 64 for $3200 - Oct 2017 Builds

2017-10-20
Corsairs knew ll series hydraulic bearing fans feature excellent air flow quiet operation and powerful lighting with 16 independent RGB LEDs across two separate loops available in 120 and 140 millimeter sizes and controlled by Corsairs lighting node Pro ll series fans can give your system a distinct and customizable look click the link in the description for more information what's up guys how's it going and welcome back to Pauls hardware today I'm doing my monthly builds video for October 2017 and I am super late this month it's like October 20th right now usually I do this at the beginning of every month and then I build one of the systems that I part out in my builds video later in the month last month I came through actually built the mini ITX system that I promised you guys I would build but for today if you were coming to this video expecting me to actually build something check out my builds playlist because there are many builds on it some more recent some a little bit older but all of the builds that I do in my monthly build series are based on your feedback so I have a straw poll linked down in this video's description about what you guys want to see for November we had some requests for a super tower max overkill build for this month which I'll get to in just a minute but I have a few other options on there for instance a budget core i3 coffee lake maybe something with the AMD's new rise in AP I'm not sure if that's actually going to be out yet or maybe just a simple $800 gaming PC for October for this month you guys all voted last month and the number one request was a scary computer for Halloween also second and just just a percentage point behind or not even this percentage point behind was a super Tower build a max overkill PC so what I actually did for this month was I have a super tower build that's the scariest computer that I've ever assembled and we'll get to that in just a second but I actually have three builds total this month partially because one of them is sort of a rehash of one of last month's build and I will be putting that one together that is a thread Ripper entry-level build now when I say entry-level I don't mean like entry-level PC I mean entry-level thread Ripper which is to say if you've decided that you have a need for a high-end workstation PC and you've decided that you want to invest in thread Ripper which is AMD's high-end top platform with X 399 motherboards how much do you need to spend to build the system that is reasonable surrounding those parts considering the two CPUs on this platform cost six hundred to a thousand dollars and the motherboards all cost upwards of three hundred then of course I'll be covering that super-scary tower building that I put together and finally a pretty sensible in my opinion coffee lake build with the 80 600 K recently launched from Intel so let's get right into it with the entry-level thread Ripper Redux build and again I try to go over this one fairly quickly since this is really similar to the system that I parted out last month it costs about eighteen hundred dollars tool for the parts that I have listed here and one of the reasons that I haven't built this yet and then I'm excited to build it soon is that I actually have plans for this build I'm gonna put it together and then Kyle and I am leading up to the holidays are going to be doing sort of a collaborative it's gonna be like an auction for the system that's gonna all be donated a charity and we have a live stream planned again we're gonna be gaming but the point is I will be putting the system together and then we're not exactly sure how we're gonna do it yet it's either going to be an auction of the system that gets donated to charity or we might have people submit just like a basic dollar amount like ten dollars per entry and then we'll draw a winner from that still not a hundred percent how we're gonna do that but point is money goes to charity system goes to somebody who actually hopefully can use it but all that said though it's based on the threader for 1900 X which is an eight-course 16 third processor there is competition here on the mainstream side from AM B's mainstream risin platform with am 4 you can get an 8 core 16 thread risin 7 1800 X or 1700 even that has effectively the same processing power as this platform so if you're investing here you're probably going to upgrade that 1900 X in the future but we'll come back to that I have a liquid cooler on here from inter max that's specifically designed for thread Ripper and I have the asrock X 399 Taichi motherboard which as shown last month I actually already have here ready for the build and I'm gonna be gathering up the rest of these parts very soon let's start off with the CPU though which is of course that 8 1900 X 3.8 gigahertz 8 core processor coming out a little bit cheaper than the $600 MSRP that AMD initially said I can get it as cheap as 520 five dollars right now from super biz or 540 directly from Amazon so enter max has been developing their tech TR for addition coolers this one was recently tested specifically by gamers Nexus Steve and the folks over there did a great job testing and showed that's when you have a larger actual cold plate that's making contact with your threader per CPU since thunder / cpus have a very large heat spreader as well as four distinct separate rise and dies in there you get better cooling so first off the air coolers that have been designed specifically threader first therefore have been doing a really good job but water coolers design for thread Ripper that again have that larger size skull plate are doing better if they have a larger cold plate and make better contact and everything and I'll post a link to Steve's video in the description if you want to check that out but I really saw a cooler it's a hundred and eighty I'm sorry hundred and thirty dollars so you can get air cooling like the Noctua fan versions for about fifty bucks cheaper than that but liquid cooling does do a better job as rock X 399 Tai Chi I already mentioned this one when it comes to thread Ripper motherboards suck at TR four they're all pretty expensive this as erotic extra 90 nine tight she has a really wide variety of features including triple m to you to 802 L 11 AC Wi-Fi and just pretty much all the basic functions and connectivity that you would you would want for a high-end workstation build and it's $340 and still coming in at at least according to new egg the cheapest amongst all of the tr4 motherboards that are out there which range from about 350 up to 550 dollars this one's still about 340 $10 mail in rebate available too so seems like a solid entry-level thread Ripper choice memory is horrendously overpriced right now unfortunately so in order to get us a quad channel kits 4x4 gigs of 16 gig memory that is at least a reasonable speed I just did a parametric filter on PC part picker which is what I'm using to choose all the parts for today by the way going for some faster ddr4 memory speed 3000 are above 4x4 gig kits g.skill has some options there about seventy-five bucks is what you're gonna spend this one I'm not really caring too much about color or anything like that I just want a solid kit of memory to use its best enough and that's well they're all overpriced but not quite as overpriced I did the same parametric filter solution for the GTX 1070 that's in this build you can get one for less than $400 right now so the parametric filter actually chose the that's a very tiny picture for a very tiny graphics it actually chose the GTX 1078 geek mini from gigabyte which is very small it is among the cheaper that are available depending where you buy it but you might consider something that's a larger size maybe that a little bit better cooling like the msi gtx 1070 armor eight gig that's also available there for about 400 but point being if you want a solid graphics card that's in the mid-range that isn't horrendously overpriced 1070 is a good option for that for the case so with the fractal design mesh if I see this is partially because I have this case already it's partially because this case has really good airflow and since there are some higher-end components in here that are going to be generating some heat especially if you're doing rendering or that kind of thing you want good airflow this one has it's and a solid set of case options besides that good job by fractal on this one a joy to build in as well and should fit all those parts in there nice and snug as well as having some expandability area in the future finally a power supply just went with the EVGA 750 watt 80 plus gold this is the GQ version the 750 GQ does have all black cabling so that's gonna look pretty clean you're not gonna have any ketchup and mustard nonsense in there today plus gold rated it's 750 watt it's gonna provide you the juice you need for your build let's move on to the requested build for this month which was the spookiest scary build deep the fearsome bill full of fear and hatred and to scare you guys I'll be honest Kyle already jumped the gun on this one over on Kyle's assumed to be defunct bit wit ultra channel which YouTube is making him cancel Kyle has already posted not one but two themed Halloween builds for October which is why I didn't go directly with with kind of what he did he has the evil build which is sorry I'm not subscribed to it with ultra on the account I'm logged in right now but it appears to be a build full of cobwebs and skulls and candles and stuff like that and then he also has the RGB pumpkin PC where he built a computer inside of a pumpkin I saw this when I was over there for the live show the other day and it actually turned out pretty fun so hopefully those will be up on his main channel soon as well so people who aren't subscribed to but ultra can check them out but I decided to kind of go the other way my scary build is scary for PC Builders out there and I also have to point out there is this there's a major flaw with my scariest PC build and that it is pretty much incompatible from the get-go here's my idea I have this motherboard it's the asus rog rampage 6 extreme it's basically one of the most expensive motherboards on the market right now six hundred and fifty dollars so my thought was intel has gotten a lot of flack for this platform X 299 LGA 2066 and some of their choices for CPUs they've implemented their what if I were to make the scariest skylake X system by actually using a KB like X CPU and just making all of the wrong and improper choices what I have here is a system that will cost you somewhere in the range of $3,200 and as long as you can ignore the key point that my rampage six extreme super super duper high-end motherboard is incompatible with KB leak X processors and honestly Asus thank you for doing that it's completely impractical otherwise physically it would fit I was hoping you could actually would actually work in this but Asus is just like no we're not we're not even going to provide support for that but if you can look the other way for that incompatibility here's the rest of the build we got at the top the i-5 76 for TX one of the most hated processors of the year it is a quad core processor it no hyper-threading it has support for dual channel memory on a quad channel memory platform and Intel is still charging two hundred and twenty dollars for this but it is LGA twenty it's 2066 it will slot into an LGA 20 66 motherboard just just not this one I've chosen but we of course need to cool that CPU so I've decided since we've invested so much otherwise we should probably get a nice budget CPU cool in there so I just sorted by price I did a parametric filter here and that there was actually a really horrendous CPU cooler in here before it was it was very akin to like yeah I was like one of these one of those like fake Intel kind of Intel stock cooler knockoffs that I thought might have been fun to throw in there unfortunately the price apparently has gone up on that so you can get the deep cool gam X 400 this is like a hyper 212 kind of variants which I bet is actually a halfway-decent cooler and hey for $15 like that's a that's a great deal right there that'll keep our 77 76 470 640 X nice and cool mother bought of course the rampage 6 extreme 650 freakin dollars for this thing but it is absolutely just decked out with with crazy features and and everything so it's just sacrilege to even consider dropping a 70 640 X in here which is why ASA said no we're not even gonna support it on for him but but um if you're willing to overlook that let's move on to our memory configuration we have a dual channel memory support with the CPU but again got to keep that upgrade path option available so I went with a single stick of 8 gig memory from Crucial Ballistix just the ballistics port there could have gone with a single 4 gig stick but you know I can only be so cruel to you guys for our graphics card we of course have the vaunted Radeon rx Vegas 64 this is the reference Edition from power color only priced about and it's just somewhat reasonable it's only about seventy to a hundred dollars over the suggested retail price for these GPUs right now so figured grab two of those probably drop them into a crossfire configuration at least we can still call it crossfire for now and that should get you set up for graphics cards since this is they high-end build of course we got to have lots of space for future expansion not that we can add too much more to this motherboard since we've only got 16 PCIe lanes from the CPU but with the cosmos 7 700 P from coolermaster recently released high-end case that's only about 300 dollars so it's only about a hundred actually less than a hundred dollars more than our our CPU and then of course never skimp on the power supply guess so we got the corsair ax 1500 i 1500 watt power supply here really really high-end power supply it's been kind of the gold standard titanium rated power supply for quite some time and then you might have noticed that I didn't get into storage yet and here was kind of my other funnest part of this of this particular build was I decided to go with some next-generation storage and of course we all know that in cells obtain memory technology is pretty amazing when it comes to performance read and write speeds but mainly input/output operations per second per second they're pretty crazy so you can get them in a 32 gig capacity it's meant to act as obtain memory and be a like like a cache for a hard drive but there's nothing that stops you from just using these as SSDs so we have plenty of expandability on our motherboard itself so I went with four of these that's right for 32 gig intel obtained memory modules at only about $80 each gives you for the low low price of about 320 dollars a 256 gig nvme SSD raid array but I didn't I didn't I'd have to point out that you will need a riser card since there's only three actual MDOT two slots on this motherboard so I went with a a ghetto super ghetto green one for just pcie 3.0 by 4 riser cards so point being most of the system won't actually function but you could get a $500 LGA 2066 motherboard that I believe is compatible with the CPU and then you could theoretically put all this together you might need to pay extra money for Intel's vrock module in order to put all of your Intel obtain memory modules into an nvme raid array and boot off of it so that might be an added expense although we're still not totally intel has not been forthcoming with the prices for the vrock add-on dongles to enable bootable nvme raider ace so you might have to just like raid a couple of these through the chipset and then maybe wanted to just directly with the software raid but I'm sure you could get up and running and I mean you got octane on there and 256 gigs of SSD support you're golden alright guys one more bonus build since my first build was kind of a rehash and my second build was kind of impractical let's actually follow up with the real builds that you guys I would say um could could build if you're into Intel now I am NOT going to address the Intel vs. AMD arguments here that's not what this video is about but if you've looked at that and you've decided that a six core Intel coffee-like processor is your cup of tea if probably if you're mainly focused on gaming then the i5 8600 K can be had for $280 which is a pretty decent bump up over the 7600 K but you do get six cores rather than four so that is nice and it is unlocked for overclocking so one of these somewhat reasonable CPUs that you can buy and coffee like right now because it's unlocked for overclocking so it matches up with the motherboards and everything anyway this total build is gonna be somewhere between twelve hundred and twenty three dollars I'll say twelve I'm gonna say twelve fifty in the actual description since you know sometimes I count mail-in rebates and sometimes I don't but beyond the CPU you've got a cooler master master air pro four CPU cooler available for as little as thirty bucks right now if you include a rebates solid air cooler you know gets the job done kind of in the same tradition of the hyper 212 family but it's got a nice black plate over the top that makes it look quite a bit cleaner from the visually speaking we need a motherboard you can get these first cheapest like 120 hundred and thirty dollars was easy 370 chipsets but those are pretty cut down so the gigabyte z 370 horas ultra gaming this is a board I've actually had some hands-on time with and one of my four this was actually that it has the USB 3.1 gen2 front panel header on here and this this board does that seems to be hard to find actually with these motherboards so take a close look if that's something that you're interested in of course your case needs to have that - or check out my video on adding one of those yourself if you can find the adapter cable from Lian Li or elsewhere beyond that you know you you have a solid feature set you've got to weigh a GPU support you have your SATA and your MDOT two connections to MDOT two slots on this board some decent power delivery as well as cooling for that power delivery for overclocking and of course you got some RGB LEDs cuz everyone's gonna have those pretty solid feature set for a hundred and seventy dollars from gigabytes next up we need memory this is a 16 gig or 2 by 8 gig kits which is what I'd recommend for this particular build you could go with eight gigs just to get you buy if you really wanted to save some money I found this G scale kits new egg business for about a hundred and fifty dollars but probably gonna spend between 150 and a hundred and seven one hundred and seventy dollars for a 16 gig 2 by 8 gig kit right now for storage I've gone with a parametric filter again and you should be able to find a 250 or 250 gig SSD for about $80 right now bear in mind if you're you're looking by price per gig which is a good way to sort if you're on PC part picker and you're looking up storage $80 again is that price and and there's a few options down there it does start to ramp up relatively quickly once you gets too far beyond that but I do want to mention if you're starting by price per gig and you include not just 250 gig but also the 500 gig SSDs you can't get a little bit better price per gig options there 525 500 gig versions for 140 250 dollars available there but of course then you're spending a decent amount more money 250 gigs you should be able to get by with and won't have too much issue and you can of course always add storage in the future and now for a graphics card once again GTX 970 it is the more reasonably priced option when it comes to high to mid mid to high range graphics cards and you can get this one for as little as 380 follow up the stuff I said earlier in the video about other gtx 1070 options for a case just went with thin NZXT s340 in black because it is a very solid all-around case with good airflow and looks and you can get it for about $65 of course there's lots of cases in this price range so if you like one that looks looks different then then do that too finally Paris fly EVGA 650 watt this is again the 650 GQ the baby brother to the 750 GQ that I talked about in the other build and yeah only about 70 tuition dollars and also some Mellon rebates available there as well so as you can see you can part out a PC right now without going too far over budget although there are still some ongoing issues as mentioned in my video that I posted earlier this week with GPU prices in particular on the AMD side a is hurting the most and then of course those memory prices are really putting the screws to anyone who is trying to build a budget system right now but if you want to build don't let that set you back when you're talking about say a $1200 ish build and you're talking about spending you know 60 more dollars on a memory kit it's not that much but it is something you should take a close look at and make sure that you're getting the best price that you can right now and make sure that you're not buying memory that's like really really low speed because you do get a little bit of extra boost from getting memory that's in the say 2800 3000 maybe thirty two hundred range when it comes to ddr4 memory speeds but guys that is gonna wrap it up for this video I hope you have enjoyed it of course actual builds via the builds playlist in the description down below I'm gonna be building that's that x99 system very soon and I've got lots of other videos plans coming down the pipeline to arctic panther is almost done and that's actually I'm going to be working on next right after I finish this thank you guys so much for watching this video hit the thumbs up button of course if you enjoyed it and we'll see you guys next time you
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