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Should You Buy Ryzen 2000 Series Now or Wait For 3rd Gen? - Probing Paul #34

2019-03-29
what's up guys welcome back to probing Paul this is episode number 34 for March 2019 that's a monthly Q&A you guys ask questions I answer them it's a pretty simple concept all of the questions from today's video were taken from the comments section from last month's probing Paul which you can check out I'll post the playlist in the description if you want to look at all of the probing Paul's I've been probed many times and it was always fun so let's check out the first question without delay from creepeth explode us oh seven who says my new RX 588 gig sapphire keeps overheating and shutting my system down what should I do groupĂ­s explode us there's some lacking information here but I'm going to give you some basic generic tips based on what you've told me an overheating graphics card is bad it shouldn't do that especially if you're not overclocking it yourself so I would double check make sure that all of your intakes for your case are cleared free of obstruction don't have any dust in them or anything just make sure it's getting clear fresh air flow if that is okay then you want to take the card itself out double-check the fans make sure they're not clogged up make sure you don't have a bunch of dust on the thin stacks themselves if that still doesn't fix the problem then you'll probably want to go into disassembling the card and make sure you have good contact between the cooler itself and the GPU because that can lead to overheating but when a graphics card overheats it's probably gonna down clock itself rather than just shutting your system down entirely so that would maybe indicate that you might have a different problem than your graphics card itself I would point towards the power supply if you've got a shoddy power supply that's not able to deliver enough power that could trigger one of the built-in protection systems from the power supply and that would automatically shut off your system so I would double-check your power supply that might be where the problem actually lies next question here is from robear 27 he says should I get horizon 5 2600 now or wait for rise in 3rd gen he also says congrats on one mill and the baby thank you thank you very much for both of those things I did hit at 1 million between last month's probing Paul and this month's probing Paul but before I get into that let me answer your question Verizon v 2600 I've recommended multiple times because you can get it for about 160 270 dollars 6 cores 12 threads comes with a cooler it's not the best cooler but it's an adequate cooler so it's a great bang for the buck but we now know that Rison 3000 series are probably coming out in June or July that's what we're looking at so only about two months maybe three months until that product actually launches we're still speculating as to the performance how many cores will be available on the different processors but we have at least a reasonable idea when it's gonna launch so whenever I get this specific question especially if the new launch is relatively soon my question to you is what are you using right now is it adequate is it getting you buy or is it actively hurting your ability to get work done and causing you massive frustration if that's the case then I'd say just upgrade now because not only is this a good deal just on the face of it but we are seeing some price drops that have been happening recently as well on our live show on Tuesday I mentioned the rise in 720 700 coming down to 220 dollars it has unfortunately bounced back up to 240 that's still a reasonably good deal but I would keep an eye out in the next month to see if there's any really good deals on the existing rise in 2000 series processors because they're still very good CPUs I'll link that one down the video's description by the way but I guess the last thing to point out would be that if you do invest in a 2000 series CPU right now according to everything we have learned m4 will still be the socket for the next-gen 3000 series stuff that comes out in a couple months so you could potentially upgrade the system that you build right now with the 2000 series processor to one of those 3000 series processors down the line so that gives you a little bit more flexibility in your decision hopefully that information helps you out a little bit next question here is just from Rick very very simple is the triple slot EVGA 28 EXC ultra non TI worth the price bump over the dual slot versions I like it quiet and cool GPU as much the next guy the dual slot versions on so 430 dollars cheaper today but the price gap is usually $50 so here I've just pulled up EVGA r-tx 20 80s on Newegg and we can see they get as expensive as well like $900 for the article versions but let's say 800 to 850 dollars for the high-end versions like the for the win three ultra with three fans and everything the most inexpensive version is the RK X 28 exc gaming and if you add that to the cart you can see the current sale price 720 dollars so that's a pretty massive swing like of 150 to 200 dollars from this sort of more entry-level RT X 2080 up to the higher-end versions and the thing you gotta bear in mind is we're really talking about difference in clock speed there is the manufacturer out of the box clock speeds and then there are the clock speeds that you might be able to get when you overclock yourself my personal opinion is that there's usually a lot of headroom especially on these aftermarket design cards even if you're getting those lower end versions compared to the range that they sell in with any given GPU like an RT X 2080 so my advice to you would be to not spend that amount especially if you're talking about a price premium of a hundred bucks or more if you're talking twenty or thirty dollars then it might be reasonable to get the better version if it's got a better cooler it might run a little bit cooler or it might get a little bit better clock speeds but I would go with the cheaper one honestly in this situation the price difference there just isn't really going to be represented in the performance you get with the higher-end version next question here from captain capsize is it true you need DP or a display port to use freesync on NVIDIA GPUs and HDMI to use freesync on AMD GPUs I'm gonna try to answer this really quickly yes NVIDIA GPUs require DisplayPort in order to use adaptive sync technology that includes g-sync that also includes if you're using a free sync monitor with an Nvidia g-sync capable graphics card which only works with the 10 series the GTX 1066 gig and above so that includes the RT X series of cards that have launched in the last year or so two on the AMD side if you're talking about free sync with a free sync capable Radeon graphics card and a free sync capable monitor in that case you can use HDMI or DisplayPort it's a little bit more flexible there but do bear in mind especially if you're looking at free sync monitors and you have an Nvidia graphics card you should absolutely make sure it has a DisplayPort input and if you guys want a little bit more on that I'll link to this PC world article by Brad sharkus now in the description which has a little bit more details on free sync as well as using free sync monitors with g-sync graphics cards next up is XT 5s question he says thanks to finding this channel I'm ready to embark on my first build excellence xt 5 that is like the goal of my channel and he also says congrats on 1 million thank you very much I'm very happy about that Pro right now I'm leaning towards your most recent budget build with the Rison 320 200 G horizon 5 2500 G graphics card upgrade in the future well I need to buy a processor without integrated graphics when I upgrade to a discreet graphics we'll the G work just as well you do not have to upgrade your CPU you can still keep that CPU just add the discrete graphics card and that will work just fine that said depending on the graphics card you upgrade to I would seriously consider upgrading your CPU because the 2200 G is a great bargain for about ninety to a hundred dollars it's a quad core but it does not have simultaneous multi-threading so it's four cores and four threads you actually do get a bump up in CPU performance with the 2400 G cuz it's four cores and eight threads that said I would just base this on what graphics card you upgrade to and this is gonna be generic because there's lots of variables that go into it but if you're spending like two or three hundred dollars on your graphics card upgrade then you can probably still get by with the 2400 G as a CPU at least 2200 G would also still probably be just fine if you're spending much more than that then I would definitely encourage looking at something like a risin 5 2600 which you can get for about a hundred and sixty $170 that would give you more cores more threads higher frequency and probably give you a better overall experience with your system but what I love about it is the flexibility you can choose to do that now or you can choose to just stick with your current CPU see how the performance of your graphics card does and then maybe decide in the future ah I would like a little bit more horsepower to the CPU so I'll buy a new one and swap it in here's a kind of interesting question from Britt Scott can you still use a hard drive enclosure from an external hard drive after the original drive inside has died assuming you can replace the dead drive so if so can you mix and match HDD brands to work with the original enclosure I don't think there's a direct answer to this question and that's mainly because when you buy external hard drive enclosures like this you there's a variety of ways that they set these up for example I've had some WD external drives this I've decided to pull apart the enclosure to get the drive out because I thought that would be more useful for me and found that the drive inside actually has a USB interface rather than a SATA interface so that would make it very difficult to replace the drive inside of inside because it's a little bit more proprietary and you would need to get one with that interface in order to plug into the external enclosure you can buy a separate external enclosure by itself and those often can be very nice usually those are just SATA if your external enclosure when you pull it apart and take the drive out just has a standard SATA interface like a 2.5 inch or 3.5 inch hard drive or SSD would have then there's a much higher likelihood that you could just get a new working hard drive swap it in there and it would work just fine that said once again there's a slight possibility that the controller that they have installed in here has baked in firmware that looks for a drive that is of the same brand or even the same line that the enclosure originally shipped with and in that case it probably wouldn't work with a new drive so your answer is maybe depending on the variables in play so pull it apart see what the interface is you can get your new drive and try it in there and if it doesn't work then you would just need to buy an external enclosure which you can usually find for like 15 or 20 bucks here's a question from Barry the fish he says Paul what we need to know for April is do I need to wear powder with foundation should I wear eyeliner underneath my eyes and my tool to wear red lipstick how long should I keep my mascara and of course can I wear bronzer year-round and this is all of course a response to my April Fool's video from last year here it is it's called Paul's skin care and makeup and yes my brief babbling in switching my channel from tech coverage over to covering you know makeup and stuff like that my wife helped out with this video and actually had a lot of fun with it and just sort of in a related note tying into last month's probing Paul when people are asking of me about like some challenging times I went through and everything I really enjoyed this video because it was April last year and I produced it at a time when I had been going through sort of a rough patch and it was the first video in quite a while that sort of occurred to me I felt good about it it was an idea that kind of grew very naturally and I did the video and I was happy with it and people seemed to enjoy it so it for me kind of represents a turning point last year when things sort of started to look a little bit brighter that said I'm not going to be doing a follow up makeup tutorial video this year I apologize I will be posting a video on April Fool's it's only slightly April Fool's II but let me know in the comments section if you guys really want me to sort of branch out in other facility videos like that I had fun with this one but for this type of content I usually have to wait until I can I kind of really feel it for me to force something like that just I have a hard time doing that and not making it feel really awkward and forced it I guess I will link that video down in the description though if you guys want to check it out so feel free to do that know of a Jetfire next asks are you going to LTX that's the Linus tech Expo Dreamhack is setting up a big BYOC area it's July 27th and 28th 2019 in Vancouver British Columbia up in Canada and short answer here is yes current plan is for me to attend LTX and we don't have flights booked or anything like that yet so you know variables could still lead to me not going for some reason but intending to go at this point so if you guys are gonna be there hopefully I will get to see you in person and say hello Sparky energiya is next with more of a comment than a question but it was winter last month it's more springtime now if you guys can tell by my background but he says it's 400 C in Australia today he's literally vaporizing at his keyboard which I imagine you would do if it was 400 C I believe he means for DC but just checking our conversion here that's 752 degrees Fahrenheit so yeah that would be very uncomfortable I'm sorry to any of you Australians out there who might be going through a very hot summer right now but I believe the seasons are changing at the moment so hopefully things are easing it for you guys but try to stay cool out there and here's the last comment from last month and this is just I wanted to say thank you guys this is only a smattering of the various responses I got either saying congrats on a million subs or congrats on the new baby girl that I have coming next month in April it was just awesome to see all these responses Michael Taipei Taiwan Chris mark Andre thank you guys all thanks to everyone else who posted similar comments down there and I wanted to give you guys a little bit of news or just just an update because I am planning a 1 million subscriber giveaway although it's a little late at this point actually hits million subscribers about three weeks ago it happened while we were live on the awesome Hardware live show on a Tuesday evening which was really cool we got to celebrate it live and we were drinking and stuff and we had fun but I think YouTube had something weird going on and I didn't get you're supposed to get a notification once you hits like a hundred thousand or a million subscribers it says hey congrats and here's a code and then you use that code to redeem your award which in this case is going to be my gold play button which I'm really really looking forward to get I wanted to do a giveaway announcements at the same time as unboxing that gold award and everything and sharing it with you guys and saying thank you and everything fortunately as of yesterday the code came through I was able to redeem it I'm expecting that to arrive hopefully within the next week or two and at that point I will be kicking off a pretty huge giveaway which I tried to make as international as possible so whether you're watching from the US or North America or anywhere in the world do you still be eligible for a decent amount of prizes more details on that coming soon though but guys that's gonna wrap it up for this video I really wanted to say thank you once again for all of your questions feel free to leave me more down in the comments section for next month really really looking forward to the rest of this year because it's starting out pretty great so thanks again guys thumbs up button on your way out we'll see you next time
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