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Should You Buy a Used Mining GPU? - Probing Paul #24

2018-05-06
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question from totally not Paul it says hey Paul you're looking a bit unkempt how about a haircut and a shave also any thoughts on planned product obsolescence very good question Paul very timely glad you asked this question right now because I do make videos to put on the internet on YouTube and sometimes other places too and I do typically take a glance in the mirror before I jump on camera and I usually usually try to make sure I've shaved or giving myself a haircut but I don't shave all the way I don't actually have a raise or anything like that I use just a beard mustache trimmer and every two three days I just kind of trim it all up down there that's why you probably have never seen me actually clean-shaven because I don't think I've been clean-shaven since probably my wedding but um sure it's started here this is my beard mustache trimmer it's a Braun BT 5050 and this has just died or at least becoming usable which sucks because I had the previous model before this and it lasted me like four years and this one is now like it's they usually self sharpening but the blades have gotten really dull and the batteries just pretty much kicked the bucket after about a year so that sucks I hate wood products that used to be good now become crappy with a new version and what manufacturer and the right man would mind would be like hey boss I have a great idea let's make our product crappier that'll give people a great opinion of it in the future so not going with Braun anymore for beard and moustache trimmers let's move on though they remainder other questions were taken from the comments section last month's probing Paul video first one here from Nico says Paul would you buy a minor used card basically a mining GPU a graphics card that some cryptocurrency miner has taken and used for months or maybe a couple years in a crypto mining setting and now they want to sell it because they've gotten all their money out of it and now crypto mining is harder and so they want to make some money back is that card still worth buying there's a few factors to consider here and there's really no direct yes or no answer if the price is right I guess would be the best answer I could give you and hopefully prices will keep coming down as they have in the past month or two for graphics cards not just new ones but also use once and if crypto mining does become really ineffective on graphics cards we might see a flood of used graphics cards on the market so if you're looking at like half of what MSRP originally was for something I can used mining graphics card that I would say go for it because your investment to your risk is significantly less but there are three factors I would consider when buying a used card and bear in mind you're buying a card on a used market so you're gonna have to trust whoever selling it to you to be honest with how they used it and everything so number one was it overclocked if it was overclocked especially if additional voltage was applied for an extended period of time I would not buy that card simply because overclocking especially with additional voltage is the best way to basically run out to a CPU or GPU lifespan and make it die much faster number two would be a question about the other power delivery components on the board depending on the board's quality and the quality of the components used certain products are more prone to failing more quickly than others capacitors the little cylindrical shaped things are what often you'll see bulge and eventually pop and die now good graphics card will use nicer capacitors that have a much longer lifespan but it's something that I would visually look at on the card check the caps indefinitely and make sure none of them are bulging before you buy it if you have that opportunity the third thing would be to test out the cooling solution basically the fans if the fans have been running for a very long time non-stop and the card has been working the whole time then the fan life might have degraded now fans are a little bit more viable as far as being able to like swap out fans and maybe get the card back up and running again so there again it would default back to how much are you paying for this card but any time you buy a used graph scarred or any used computer component you are taking a risk so balance that risk with the price reduction that you're getting by buying a used component and also reality check double check how much you would be able to buy something for brand-new and then make your judgment based on that next question here from Andrew Swire and I positioned this one as the next question because it's kind of a follow-up to the previous one but the question is how much degradation does overclocking due to a components this particular question is as the guard's to a friend of his who wants to overclock but isn't sure if they want to because they're worried about reducing the lifespan of their components and that's a perfectly viable fear and my advice to your friend here would be go ahead and give it a shot because as long as you're not cranking up the voltage you're not going to have much chance of actually damaging your components with modern computer builds and over CPU overclocking the computer is going to shut itself off or basically fail to boot before it allows you to do anything that will actually damage that hardware and unless you're like you know wiring things up yourself or something like that once you've done some overclocking and then you kind of hit a wall with the clock speed you're able to hit then the idea comes to you like oh if I increase the voltage then maybe I can increase the clock speed and yes you can this is why if I'm overclocking I usually test out some higher overclocks and test out some increased voltage and then eventually if I'm looking for something long-term I adjust the voltage back down to what it ships at stock or maybe slightly above or even slightly below if you can get away with it that's actually a really cool thing to do and then find myself a clock speed that you know is higher than what it ships at but still not crazy high to the point where I'm worried about it running really hot all the time because those are the two things you want to avoid higher voltage over an extended period of time and higher heat over an extended period period of time so this is another reason why it's actually a little bit easier to overclock in the winter versus the summer because ambient temps might be a little bit lower but hopefully that feedback gives you a little bit better idea of what to do moving forward but give overclocking a try I waited way too long to start overclocking in my personal PC building career and once I actually tried it I realized it's not that difficult and it's really hard to actually damage stuff unless you're really doing things strangely for some reason so give it a shot let me know how it goes next question is from Mauro wheat 23 and I actually responded to this question last month but I'm going respond to it here again he says why are some of your videos 1080p some 1080p 60 and some 4k is there any rhyme or reason to that now there is first off I shouldn't be posting any videos that are just 1080 anymore my live stream should be 1080 60 and then beyond that I go either 1080 60 or 4k the decision for me is often based on the type of video so recently I've been doing vlogs from time to time because it helps me get stuff done while also making a video and for vlogging I have been using the rx100 mark 5 from Sony and I got this because it's got the flip up screen great for vlogging can do face tracking focusing and not all that kind of stuff it's a cool little camera and it shoots 4k but it overheats when shooting 4k so you can only shoot clips that are a few minutes long so I've gotten used to using this camera and then I realized that it's more effective to use this camera if I need to shoot a lot of footage at 1080 60 so for that reason 1080 60 is what I go for for this 1080 60 is the capture method that I have set up for these videos so that's what this video should be going at as well and then beyond that if I'm doing anything where I'm trying to get crisper cleaner footage of like a case or a build or something like that those I usually do 4k and I'm filming more more often with my gh4 or my G H 5 H 5 which I'm filming this with right now can do anything up to 4k 60fps so probably what I'm eventually going to move everything to is 4k 60 frames per second next question is from Blakey 23 and this kind of relates to the previous question he's asking if films display 24 frames per second that's usually what films are recorded at why does 30 frames per second in a game look awful and he says he could easily Google this but he'd rather hear it from me well Blake I googled this just just to make sure I wasn't feeding you any bad information here so the 24 frames per second thing basically goes back to the introductory of filmmaking videography in general and when they were developing film cameras that take the photons going in and it exposed it on an emulsification layer on film that was in a camera that went by you know cameras work point being they were trying to find a frame rate that was good enough that it would fool the eye into thinking there was video going on but slow enough that it was cheaper because the more film you exposed the more you had to develop and that was money so they were trying to find the way to make film and 24 frames per second was what they decided on was okay now interestingly enough even though films were filmed at 24 frames per second back then they were actually projected at 48 frames per second they would do two exposures for each frame of the film now bringing this back to modern times you probably noticing this if you play video games because for me the jump from thirty to sixty was most noticeable when going from a game to not a game and a big reason here that you're noticing that more of something like a video game is the responsiveness like if you're doing something like playing a game or even something as simple as moving a mouse cursor across the screen it's updating either 30 times per second if it's 30 Hertz or 60 times per second if it's 60 Hertz or 60 frames per second the smoothness is just so noticeable when you're actually taking something and physically moving it around the screen or if you're playing a game where the responsiveness is important their smoothness is also important when you're say playing something like a first-person game with lots of movement going around updating the edges of the screen keeping it from looking choppy that's a very important thing for something like playing a video game and we compare that to something like film and cinematography even within the modern day there is something I think of an aesthetic nostalgia for the way film originally was 24 frames per second so people refer to it as the cinematic look or something like that which I can appreciate and I definitely still appreciate just fine 24 frames per second and film work and stuff like that and it really comes down to an aesthetic choice also there is something of a stigma with the higher framerate stuff like The Hobbit was shot at 48 frames per second I believe and a lot of people got here today with that because it gives you what's often referred to as as the soap opera effect everything looks too sharp and too crisp and it almost makes things look fake ultimately though I think it's just up to the individual to decide what they like better when it comes to viewing something like a movie but definitely when it comes to games higher framerate is always better 60 or above for me and I'm getting to the point where a hundred or above is even better 144 Hertz the refresh rate monitors are super nice and if you can't afford one and you have a system that can power one I highly recommend checking one out thank you for your question though next question is from Peter KJ Richter this is a very long question I'm not going to read the whole thing but it's up here if you guys want to read it thank you for your thanks at the ends to all of us who make tech channel videos and everything but the questions here in the middle he's basically talking about him and his friends upgrading pcs they're maybe a little bit older and how practical a one or two generation old system is specifically here a z2 70 or h2 70 system with something like a 6th gen CPU so Peter my advice here would be double check the current prices of new stuff because there are benefits to getting new things they're usually a little bit faster and usually a little bit more feature-rich the bino gets you other benefits too such as a warranty from a manufacturer so you can return a product and get it replaced if you need to that said you're talking about buying computer parts the way I usually buy cars which is I usually buy cars that are 2 to 5 years old that have already lost their depreciation value from driving off the light lot and I try to get a nice bang for the buck balance between something that's relatively new but maybe not new new and something that will get the job done and of course something that is maybe a little bit easier on the wallet so yes 6th gen CPUs are still totally viable even the newest stuff hasn't increased that much in performance what you're really gonna be stuck with though is quad-core so that's your limiting factor when you're talking specifically about Z 270 and H 270 there are no six core CPUs available on that platform so if you eventually down the line need more CPU processing horsepower you're gonna need to upgrade your entire system or your friends gonna need to upgrade their entire system just totally ok though if the system was a bargain upfront then in a couple years you'll probably be in a position to upgrade it too so yes Peter I think your friends will be satisfied with that option just again double check the current prices of new stuff before you go and spend money unused components a couple more questions these are less tech related but first from Steve Sanders Paul are you more Dread Pirate Roberts or a Viggo Montoya this is assuming Kyle will be the other and there may be a reason that I wore this shirt today but I don't know if you asked this question because of this shirt or it's just perfect that your question provided me a great opportunity to plug my store guys if you gotta buy store stuff merch for me we go to pulsar Burnett it's linked in the video's description and this is an awesome hardware shirt and I am Dread Pirate Roberts and Kyle's inigo montoya so Dread Pirate Roberts that's what I go for actually dressed as pat roberts or the man in black or Wesley from Princess Bride for when I was in third grade for Halloween most of the people didn't know who I was but I'm still a big fan of Princess Bride and that's probably who I go with although inigo montoya does also have a pretty cool backstory but um I guess it forced to choose I go with the Dread Pirate Roberts final question here is from Gonzo's twin one and he asked Paul do you use elevators or stairs it's a good question I originally thought this question with escalator or stairs and it reminded me of my favorite Mitch Hedberg joke which is elevator when the elevator breaks down when the escalator breaks down it just turns into stairs escalator has become stairs sorry for the convenience I don't quite have the delivery the Mitch Hedberg does to say that joke properly but it's funny joke anyway my I have a two floor rule with elevators versus stairs if I'm going up two floors I take the stairs beyond that elevators okay and I also apply this rule to other people who might be writing the elevator with me when I was in college I lived in a 12 story building and anytime anyone got on the elevator we were up on the 11th floor anytime anyone got an elevator trying to go to the second or third floor we just stink-eye them the whole time like you lazy piece of garbage use the stairs you're taking time away from us getting upstairs to play more video games but guys that is pretty much all the time I have for probing Paul for this month so check out my peel box or here is my peel box I guess I should say so if you guys happen to want to send me anything we usually do mail time on the live show which is every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time with me and Kyle so if you want to send stuff please go ahead and do that I also put that in the description of every single video that I post but until next time thank you for watching probing Paul I'll be back with more tech videos so don't forget to thumbs up button and subscribe of course if you want to see more thanks again for watching guys and we'll see you next time
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