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Corsairs new Vengeance RGB pro series ddr4 memory gives you blazing fast speed and dynamic multi zone RGB lighting with ten ultra-bright LEDs per module customization options are practically endless with the corsair IQ software package and they're available with black or white heat spreaders find out more about the Corsair Vengeance RGB pro series via the sponsor link in the description so for about two years now since 2016 or so PC gamers have suffered when it comes to GPU choices after a disappointing launched from Radeon Vega last year and then astronomical prices during the crypto GPU mining bubble the Nvidia 10 series seemed to stagnate after late 2017 which left us with only the stopgap 1070 TI launch and then the $3,000 volta based Titan VIII which was out of most people's price range 2018 wasn't that much better but in mid summer things actually started to improve the inflated prices began to come back down as crypto mining became less viable and then finally last week Nvidia launched the 20 series with turing and RT x and holy shit they really want $1,200 for the 28 ET i okay so it perhaps was not the best or most well-received launch and the prices are absolutely really high for this new series of graphics cards but let's try to think about this rationally because that is what this video is all about now that Nvidia has at last launched a new gaming GPU series with a new architecture for the first time since the 10 series debuted with the GTX 1080 on May 27th 2016 what do we do now we've passed the launch that point in time that so many people were waiting for so that they could what this question is multifaceted much like the complex beef going on between tech youtubers on Twitter right now but I will simplify the answer by splitting into four points and by the way I'm assuming that if you're watching this video you are at least somewhat interested in buying a graphics card or gaming PC and they're going high-end with a GPU budget in the 400 to 700 dollar price range so first consider the benchmarks we now know that the r-tx 2080 Ti is about 25 to 40 percent faster than the GTX 1080 Ti especially if you're looking at higher resolutions like 4k or 1440p Ryle direct you to the hardware unbox review where Steve tests 30 different games and found that on average at 4k 30% improvement was his results and then if you're talking the r-tx 2080 you're looking at about the same performance 2082 1080 TI depending on the game that you're playing of course but if you include pricing the price factor definitely favors the GTX series over the RT x-series so first off free rich folks out there if you want the best the best and you've got the money to pay for it there is no question that the 2080 ti is the way to go if you can find them a secondary thing I want to do in this video is actually reality check prices and availability to see if you can buy any of these promised cards right now that's when ta titi a launch date was pushed back one week for when they're actually shipping but I believe that means they're actually supposed to ship out today currently the cheapest one is 1170 dollars which is a bit more expensive than the 1,000 dollar starting prices Nvidia promised us beyond that they're all $1200 and up so it's a simple answer for you guys who want the best graphics card possible if you have to be able to gloat over your friends with their 1080 T eyes by saying look I have a 20 80 TI and spending $1200 on a single GPU isn't a big deal for you this is obviously what you should get but for everyone else who's a little bit more reasonable and isn't spending 1200 bucks on a single GPU then the 2080 is what you should be scrutinizing now 2080s are available and they're shipping right now on PC park picker if we sort by price the cheapest one is 789 dollars and that is reflected over on Newegg as well if we're looking at just 20 ATS and actually available for sale you can add these to Curt and buy them right now so I guess that is a positive but again 790 dollars versus the promised introductory level price which was supposed to be $6.99 but if we compare that to the 1080 TI you can currently find that for 650 dollars at the cheapest and there's a decent number available between 650 and 700 dollars the cheapest one is the gigabyte one here and I'm also trying to reality check these just to make sure they over there available for sale and yes for $650 right now at Amazon you can go ahead and buy this gigabyte 1080 TI OC with 11 gigs of VRAM by the way versus the 8 gigs that you get with the 2080 however it is gddr5 X versus GT year 6 it's a little bit slower but point being with the 1080 TI and the 2080 you get about the same performance with the 1080 TI you do get that 3 more VRAM with the 2080 you get the potential future performance of r-tx features ray-tracing and DL SS which in the future could be cool but that provides me a great segue to the second point I wanted to make which is that Archie X is still off the glorious new features of the RT X 20 series we still cannot viably quantify the value of these new r-tx features there is still no word on the performance or the in-game impacts of the new touring upgrades the Archie core is integrated in a twenty series for ray tracing the tensor cores that can handle AI stuff and deep learning and should pre be able to do DL SS which seems like a cool feature if we could only test it Windows updates are coming for ray tracing but not until October now it's most likely that we'll see these features soonest in the titles that Nvidia teased during that launch presentation so shadow of the Tomb Raider for example and maybe battlefield 5 we're told it's gonna be patched into both games battlefield 5s release date has already been pushed back though to November 20th and for shadow of the Tomb Raider we're not 100% sure when that patch will be launched but probably after the windows patch goes into effect 3d mark is also working on a ray tracing test so this will be a synthetic but 3d mark is generally a good means of testing performance between GPUs this is slated to launch along with Microsoft's redstone 5 update which will be the next major major update to Windows 10 so we're expecting that in October so if you've considered prices and you've considered features maybe you should consider not getting an Nvidia graphics card as all Vega is it available is it priced reasonably now maybe it's definitely better than it was before jumping back to PC part picker we can see a very inexpensive Vegas 56 for 379 dollars although this is from nuoc business and they've already changed the price it's back up to the same price as no ENCOM so never mind that it looks like the cheapest Vega 56 that's in stock and available for sales about four hundred and five dollars the Sapphire pulse version here so that's a pretty good price considering what these have sold for you know three four months ago as for Vegas 64 is cheapest one here is this gigabyte model for four hundred and seventy dollars which does appear to still be available and in stock that's right that's a $30 meal and rebate card for that also remember for the Vegas you're currently getting a game pack bundle with three games in it so that may or may not be valuable for you two if you like the games that are being offered but if you are seriously considering Vega I think the most valid reason to do so would be pairing a Vega 56 in Vega 64 with a free sync monitor free sync g-sync variable refresh rate is still one of the best reasons to jump into PC gaming if you're comparing it to something like console gaming high refresh rate and the way to get into this with a good monitor that's showing demonstrable value and features that are upgrades over 1080 60 gaming that you get with consoles is gonna be something like a 27-inch 2560 by 1440 monitor and if you can get a high refresh rate one this one's 144 Hertz and if you can get one that has free sync and you compare it with a Vega graphics card you're looking at a pretty good situation this is an Acer model that's 350 dollars that supports all those features it's currently available on Amazon and if you're looking at the cost of the year Vega 56 in Vega 64 plus a monitor in this range you're looking at probably one to two hundred dollars savings compared to getting say a gtx 1070 or 1080 and AG sync monitor with similar specs and my fourth and final point i want to make is that the price to performance crown is still going to go to the gtx 1070 and 1080 with the current pricing and availability that's out there if you just want a graphics card if you want to get into high-end PC gaming if you've been waiting to see what launches are gonna happen the gtx 1070 and GT x 1080 are still right now the best bang for your buck there are many deals on these cards you can get the 1070 now for sub of $400 look at that that's lower than the original promised launch price back in 2016 that's amazing this has almost never happened quite a few different versions available these are available for sale you can add to cart' check out and buy them now further down the list we even have GTX 1080s selling for as little as four hundred and thirty dollars reality checking again yes that's actually the price $20 mail in rebate card but you can buy it right now for that much money keep an eye on 1070 t is in this range - there's a $400 1070 TI which might be a good choice greg from science studio also posted a video recently talking about the amazing deals you can find on the secondary or used market which I'm not going to dive into here because it can vary by location but that's also something you might consider checking out bear in mind you're dealing with the used market so you're not going to get a warranty and stuff there archive it's there but the point is I think I would definitely prefer a gtx 1070 or 1080 and a high refresh rate g-sync monitor for about the same price as what you could buy an Archie X 2080 for right now if you're looking for the best bang for the buck option and you don't want to wait any longer since you've probably already waited a decent number of time for this 20 series of GPUs to launch there's a couple more questions that might come to your mind though for example a lot of people have asked me if they should buy now or wait another month or two for November in the Black Friday time period I would say by now if you find a deal that you like there is a chance that prices could go down before Black Friday but they could also go up in the US for example we're still waiting to see if the tariffs that have been announced by our government are going to apply towards things like gaming graphics cards according to this john petty research article they will and the 10% tariff goes into effect today so we'll have to keep an eye and see if that affects prices the only people who I might suggest should wait until say November ish timeframe is if you're shopping for an entire system not just a graphics card in that case it might be worth your while to wait for the Intel 9000 series CPUs which are expected to launch in the next month or two still don't know the exact launch date for that but it would be worth it to see the performance of those CPUs as well as how that might affect the pricing of this current stuff that's available on the market but guys that is my advice for now for anyone who saw the 2000 series launch and all the benchmark graphs and everything but was looking for what does all this mean that's what I've been trying to give you guys today I hope you've enjoyed it hit the thumbs up button if you did and if anyone has any questions please leave them for me in the comment section down below and I will be following up in another week and a half or so with my October builds so I'll come back at this and take a look at pricing and availability then as well so stay tuned for that too thanks again for watching guys 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