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Testing the $1200 Mini-ITX Gaming PC Build of the Month!

2018-08-26
the Thermaltake view 71 snow edition shows off your build in style with a frosty white paint job and four tempered glass side panels you also get two pre-installed hundred and forty millimeter ring white LED fans a vertical GPU mount with bracket and 3-way radiator support for water cooling so click the sponsor link in the description to learn more what's up guys how's it going and welcome back to Pauls hardware today's video is my follow-up to my monthly build series every month i part out some builds at the beginning of the month for people who aren't familiar with putting computers together and then I build one of the system's and then I test it later on so this is the testing video for this 1200 ish dollar mini ITX system it's meant to be small it's meant to be powerful it's meant to be able to play video games of course but also do games streaming video editing since you have an 8 core processor in there as well as a gtx 1070 but if you go back to the original planning video i also pointed out how you could easily drop in a 1070 TI or a 1080 even depending on the prices that are available now one quick note about this system as it is put together and being tested here is that I actually use the 2700 X CPU in here now there's four or five different eight core processors available on the am 4 platform from AMD Rison first gen as well as resin second gen I went with 2nd gen because we have a be 450 motherboard in here but just so you guys know if you're going for one of those other eight core processors you probably will need to overclock it a little bit in order to achieve the exact same results that I'm gonna show you guys today but overclocking thankfully is possible with B 415 motherboards as well as this motherboard that I have right here after that build completion video that you guys maybe have already seen I had to do a little bit of setup of course some stuff like you know plugging in things where necessary in the power I have wired up the 802 dot eleven AC Wi-Fi here as well the Windows 10 installer did not recognize the 802 dot 11 AC Wi-Fi right out of the gate so very mind you might need to plug in Ethernet or perhaps jump on to another computer to go to the gigabyte website to get the Wi-Fi driver in order to load it up to get everything working but before I did all that I did a BIOS update to make sure I had the latest version of the bass and then I went through standard windows 10 installation procedures updating the drivers and making sure that all the software was installed the games were installed and everything was up to date in the BIOS I did go and set the XMP setting for the memory so it's running at ddr4 3000 speed and I had no problem with stability after that and I guess I should point out that I was doing all this testing out in the dining room and that's simply so I could have a little bit more control over temperatures since it is the middle of the summer here so ambient temperatures were about 81 degrees Fahrenheit and that's about 27 degrees Celsius so a little on the warmer side please bear that in mind as you're looking at some of the temperatures for these tests I am a little bit of a time constraint so my testing was limited but I think it'll give you a good idea of the performance you can expect the first test I ran was 3d mark firestrike ultra this is a synthetic test but it's very good at showing you the ballpark performance of your graphics card in your overall system as well as giving you a good point of comparison because there's lots of test results for 3d mark you can find online overall scores 4590 for graphics score was 44 and 90 and the physics score was 20,000 564 thanks to the eight core CPU combined score was 2309 and as the test was running the max CPU frequency was four point three four gigahertz that's just on one core and that's thanks to XF r2 which will automatically overclock one or two cores on your processor as long as temperatures are within a reasonable range i've found that xf r NX f r2 can often get one or two cores to a higher frequency then you'll be able to achieve if you're just doing manual overclocking especially if you're trying to go for an all core overclock so often with gaming performance it's better to just leave settings as is in the BIOS rather than going and overclocking yourself that said if you're running one of the cheaper eight core processors like a 1700 definitely worth your while to go over and dabble with overclocking just a bit the max CPU temperature was 71 degrees for this test and the GPU temp was 75 so that's getting a little bit warmer but this is a shorter test the GPU overclocked by the way I was running at nineteen sixty one megahertz and that is because this is a manufacturer overclocked msi gtx 1070 next test is 3d mark times pi this is also a synthetic but it is direct x12 overall score of six thousand four hundred and sixty six graphics score of sixty two hundred and a cpu score of eight thousand five hundred and fifty-one same max CPU frequency here hitting four point three four gigahertz on one or two cores and then the CPU dive temperature got up to eighty one degrees Celsius and the max GPU temperature went up to eighty one degrees Celsius as well times pi is a longer test so it gave the components more time to heat and since I wasn't doing a full stress test on this with like a CPU and GPU load as thick and you know what that's a little bit too warm for my taste so I decided at this point to do a slight modification to the original build and just install a second 120 millimeter intake fan up at the front I mentioned in the build video that there's not a lot of room up in the front with this build because the graphics card it shows is fairly long so if you are building this system and you waited to watch this follow-up video on the performance I definitely recommend adding a second fan another 120 at the front to give yourself just a bit more airflow and keep things cooler but also maybe double check your graphics card again when you purchase it there's lots of shorter graphics cards even the founder's edition graphics cards would be a great solution here because only ten and a half inches long but consider something like that to give yourself more airflow give yourself a better overall experience with the system and keep your components a bit cooler especially if you're in the summer months when things are warmer when it comes to the ambient the finance Tolleson noctua nf8 12 X 15 PWM and that fortunately was able to tuck right in there up in front and with that added and I ran the 3d mark time spy run one more time Mac CPU temp now was 75 point five degrees and the max GPA temp was 79 so so about five and a half degrees cooler on the GPU and about two degrees cooler on the CPU that's a reasonable improvements especially considering that it's a slim fan and I mentioned I was a little short on time for this testing but I didn't manage to get a run of GTA 5 in just playing it 1920 by 1080 average frame rate was out of 23 frames per second one percent low was 79 0.1% low was 70 the max CPU frequency was still hitting four point three four gigahertz in this test and fortunately with a bit of a more reasonable gaming load so if you're comparing those times spy tests and thinking other things are getting too warm this test is more like you're actually just playing a game in here the CPU temperature only got up to sixty six point three degrees Celsius GPU temperature was at 73 so we're still well within our tolerable temperatures as far as that goes I also want to point out here that your GPU and CPU in this system are both designed to clock themselves higher when temperatures are lower but also dial that clock speed down a little bit when things get a little bit too warm so don't necessarily consider that oh it's getting too warm and it's throttling it's simple adjusting the clock speeds to make sure things don't overheat but of course if you are concerned about overheating there are plenty of additional fan locations on this case so you can add more fans evacuate more of that warm air and give yourself probably a little bit better performance in the long run apart from raw performance in temps the last thing to really test with this system is going to be noise generation so here is a quick sound test so things are staying pretty quiet overall with the system even under load and I think that's really what it boils down to with this build is yes there are some caveats here in there to keep in mind stuff about AMD with the rising platform temperatures but overall everything fits together really nicely there's a lot of performance built in there and of course you got that expansion capability with the additional 2.5 inch and 3.5 inch drive mounts as well as the ability to add more fans oh and I should point out this system does support a 240 millimeter all-in-one radiator I would make sure that it is in the smaller side as those go but I finally did actually look up the manual for this on the Rio tour website and it does confirm that that is a possibility too so if you weren't stoked on this cooling situation for the CPU you could add one of those in the front if you so desired but guys that wraps it up for this video again links to this entire build is down in the video's description check out the build video and the planning video as well if you want to see how it was put together or some other ideas for parts you might want to swap in if you want to save some money there is an $800 version of this bill that I put together as well thank you guys so much for watching though the thumbs up button on your way out subscribe if you want to see more content coming at you very soon and we'll see you guys in the next video
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